The Downfall of Georgetown Basketball
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2020
- Georgetown basketball used to be one of the premier programs in college basketball. Under the late John Thompson and led by star center Patrick Ewing, they went onto 3 national championship games in 4 seasons. But recently the Hoyas have been coached by Patrick Ewing however that success looks to be a long thing of the past.
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Who’s here after they won the big east
Me
THIS AGED GREATLY. kiss the chip buddy
Lol well they suck now
Even worse now actually
It did age well we suck
Who's here after they beat Villinova in the big east tournament
Man I used 2 think Georgetown was a HBCU when I was a child because on Coach Thompson and the Look of those 80's & 90's teams
Well this video didn't age well... Georgetown just won the Big East Championship and is headed to the big dance.😤😤
And then they have their worst record in years
And now they are back to being irrelevant
Broke the record of DePaul! WOOO
Who misses the old Big East?
One thing you forgot to mention is how Georgetown is located in probably the most talented basketball metro area in the U.S. Top tier kids just aren't looking at Georgetown anymore. Pat Ewing needs a headhunter recruiter that is a little shady.
it definitely isn’t located in the best area for basketball talent😂
Agreed, DMV area is one of the best areas in the country for recruiting. Many talented players each year come from that area.
Georgetown has a top 10 recruiting class right now.
@@muddywaters2818 And, I hope things turn around. If not, go and hire Juan Dixon.
@@united8586 I’m in DC I’m a football player but we got the best hoopers in the world. Bring anyone down here and put em against any team in the WCAC And watch what happens
I’m waiting for Marquette basketball to get back to greatness too, still have some hope
same man, it's been 6-7 years since they were really good but it feels like forever
Can you do The rise and fall of UNLV
When I thinbk G-Town I think AI ,Ewing, Zo, Mutombo, Sleepy Floyd.💯🏀✔
no reggie williams or david wingate?
@@dc3470 Idk how I forgot bout them smh lol
@@brandonethereal1084 , to b honest, they didn't deserve 2 b on ur list. they weren't hall of fame caliber players. but they were some solid role players on great teams
@@dc3470 Yeah Reggie was definitely talented. Wingate was a flash in the pan type player. He was inconsistent, but he wasnt the worst either.
@@brandonethereal1084 , both were out of the nba in less than 3 or 4 yrs if i'm not mistaken. reggie wil was part of the 3 reggies that came out that yr...reggie lewis, reggie miller. ..if my memory serves me
CZcams is finally back
It’s an honor as a Nitty Lions fan to meet the GOAT 🐐 Trace Mcsorley
Who else read it as black??
🤣🤣🤣
Things have never been the same for Georgetown since they got roasted *as a 2 seed* by FLORIDA GULF COAST.
exactly.
some teams handle that type thing horribly... some go on to win titles the next season... we see what type G'town is
You're right about that that was a big loss for my boys
IDIOT SAY WHAT
Not being an idiot, i cannot answer. However, i will add rrrmuhrunumuh.
“They’re not gonna be good. They’re gonna finish at the bottom of the division.” 💀
They suck now
This statement aged well! 🤔
They have
Back when John Thompson Sr. was coach they recruited a mix of hungry inner city and southern kids from poor backgrounds. They were alpha males instead of the beta males you see these days. Also, the Big East was so great back then that the conference toughened you up for the NCAA tournament. Now I see people in the comments below saying they should leave their conference so they can have it easier even though their conference is nowhere near as dominant as it was back in the day.
Basically, we entered a parallel reality where Villanova and Georgetown switched places/roles.
The unfortunate thing with Josh Leblanc is that he got kicked off for sexual assault allegations that got dismissed like days after he was kicked off. I know this because I knew about Josh in high school and I graduated with someone else who got caught up in that mess, Galen Alexander, though in Alexander’s case this is the second time he got kicked off a team, the first being an incident when he was at LSU, which is ironically where Josh Leblanc ended up, for breaking an unspecified team rule. Alexander ended up at Texas Southern.
Actually the thing in Galen’s LSU case was that he, along with big man freshman Myan Kir (something like that), was suspended indefinitely and pretty much encouraged to transfer out (so basically the same thing but without the official “kicking out”)
1. They didn't fire John III with Patrick already "in mind" for the job--they offered the head coaching position to several people before finally asking Patrick.
2. DC players--not Patrick--made Georgetown into the Heart Attack Hoyas:: Big Sky Shelton, BayBay Duren, Sleepy Floyd, etc. I hate it when ppl sleep on DC basketball
3. Georgetown needs to go back to recruiting dc players--the program has almost no ties to the community now--unlike when big John was coaching--and most of DC's best high school players now end up going to other schools. Makes no sense.
U know who doesn’t sleep on DC ball? Nova. Sidwell with Josh Hart and Saddiq Bey, Kris Jenkins from Gonzaga, and a few from Dematha I believe, including Justin Moore. All DMV ball players. And we are in the running for Keels. I think that’s what’s happening to Georgetown. They’ve lost the local talent.
You got it all wrong. Provide proof for your claims please.
I will say, Pat is now trying hard to focus recruiting in DMV players
Sleepy was from NC.
You have been pumping out great videos this week! Keep it up! It doesn’t go unnoticed!
Lookin Good Right now!!! Bout to win Big East Tournament
Being in the Big East definitely doesn’t make it any easier
Current Big East isn't as powerful as the old Big East, but you're right.
they should move to the american or acc conference
@@united8586 their football program is smaller than those schools
@@cutterfinley lmao. you clearly don’t understand how conferences work. they join for 1 of there programs. for instance, UConn sucks at football but are the American conference bc of there basketball. UNC sucks at football but is in the ACC because of basketball. if Georgetown were to join a different conference it would be a basketball conference. which the only basketball focused conferences are american and acc.
@@united8586 lol, you do know UConn is an independent and UNC is 6-2 in football
So many videos recently, I love it!
I was a fan of Georgetown simply because my father went there and i grew up watching them with him. I remember the 2006/07 season fondly. the team made it all the way to the final 4 we had all our starters coming back the next year with the exception of Jeff Green. Since 2006/07 though the team has been plagued by horribly disappointing seasons. the 08 and 13 were the last times they won anything in the conference. They haven't even won the Big East tourny since that season and have only played in the final 2 times. They haven't even been to the sweet 16 in so long! it's frustrating. Still I consider myself a loyal fan and i still root for the Hoyas.
This makes me so sad.
“This year, they’re not gonna be good”
7:25 I remembered that while watching the Big East Tournament Final. 2021 Big East Champs Baby!!!! They're Going to the big dance!!!
Great stuff. Ewing had the Hoyas trending in the right direction. His first year was a 500 season after the team had a losing record the year before. His second year he had them in the NIT. 2020 was the year that was supposed to be the leap to a possible NCAA Tournament bid but the wheels fell off when key players left or were kicked off during the season. That set them back but possibly the recruiting class coming in next year gets them back on track.
Why wait till next year lol
Was literally just thinking about this! You’re a legend!
Being a Georgetown fan has been hard lately. Last year, I went to the bahammas and watch the Hoyas played in the preseason, and we were by far the best team there (including Texas Tech and Memphis). However, James Akinjo didn’t mold well with the team and Josh LeBlanc got in some trouble. After that, our team fell apart. We went from almost beating Duke at the garden to losing to Greensboro at home. I think Pat is gonna turn it around and our upcoming recruiting class for 2021 looks solid. Hopefully we can exceed expectations this year and play with a chip on our shoulder. Go Hoyas!
Wow, a prophet!
@@TheMeefive 😎
HOYAS till i die. Let start this season with a W tonight
Was thinking amusingly of this video, which I had first seen weeks ago, as I watched the Hoyas celebrate the 2021 big east tournament trophy 🏆... time to make a new one on the Hiya resurgence if they keep it up next season?
Love ur vids man keep grinding and you’ll keep growing
1. When you mention Big Coach's credentials you shouldve also mentioned his players graduation rate.
2. This video is making me angry.
Go Hoyas
It didn’t help that they lost their best recruiters over the years along with JT3 stubbornly refusing to play modern basketball which FURTHER deterred the best LOCAL players. Not gonna get much better going forward for at least this year. Just hope the school does good by Patrick out of LOYALTY ALONE.
Great Point
And now they won the Big East Tournament and are going dancing....huh
As a native, thank you for your proper pronunciation of Louisville. Just subscribed to your channel. Great work!
Yt is up finally lol
It wasn’t just me 😂
@@Torin.9 yep CZcams was down
@@ethanthebuckeye5012 I thought the IT dept at the job was hating 🤣
Don't see how you can have 9 minutes worth of Georgetown basketball with only 2 seconds of Allen Iverson 💁♂️
I am proud of how Patrick Ewing. He can coach and lead. Hope they have a good run in the tournament.
College ball has changed a lot. A lot of players want to make names immediately. G-Town isn't the first destination for these kids today. So Pat has his work cut out for him. But glad we have Mutumbo's son...that's a step in the right direction. I miss the good old Hoya days. The MCI Center, Capital Center, dating myself...lol
This didnt age well....
Good video! I have faith in the next few yrs they will be good again. Go Hoyas!!
I remember my Buckeyes playing them when they had Mutumbo and Mourning and we had Jackson. We won but that was a memorable and very tough game. Memories..... miss you Dad and all the games we watched together next to a fire when I was a kid.
Downfall of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from early 2000s One greatest Defenses ever
Love these types of vids!
Can you please do a downfall for the Longhorns.. for the football and the basketball program, I’m a huge fan of them. And would like to know how you feel about them. Please and thank you! Greats videos by the way!
Who's here after the big east 2021 championchip game
can u make a vid bout Maryland basketball and vandy baseball
I'm a Georgetown fan, this was painful to watch. FGCU took a blowtorch to this program and they haven't recovered. Pat's head coaching tenure has been underwhelming to say the least, I wasn't thrilled by the hire but I understand why they hired him. Losing Mac def hurts and idk what has to go wrong to have a talent like that walk out of the door. The losing has been frustrating and the conference reshaping back in 2013 didn't help either, compare that to another old Big East power like Villanova the schools have gone in complete opposite directions.
Its easy to explain why he left: for ra chance to start on any almost guaranteed tournament team this year. That wasn't happening in DC this year with the exodus.
@@jonathanhains814 Oh for sure, but i think there was something more internally than just the roster leaving. just feels like Georgetown has been constantly taking 1 step forward and then 2 steps back for the last 10 years
@@Jpurihella Akinjo had the same reason for leaving...he was a 4 star, too. The other 3 guys felt they were thrown under the bus in the scandal thing. They all wanted out.
....... well this aged well. Big East champs and now have a top 10 recruiting class. Suck it kid.
The real problem is the rise of HS basketball factories across the US, like IMG, Montverde, Oak Hill, etc. A lot of these players from the East are transferring to said schools, causing a lot of private high schools (that were known to keep and create HS talent) to close. These eastern players aren’t staying in the east anymore.
Georgetown used to be one of my favorite teams to watch in the past decade, sucks when teams like that just fall apart... great video Cole!
I have been watching since Ewing. I honestly can’t watch them now. We gotta get some elite talent.
@@Bighjr88 lol . How bout them Hoyas!
@@TheMeefive I’m happy big pat won the championship but I’m also a realist we still don’t have elite talent nobody in the big east have elite talent. Anytime a foreigner ur best player I don’t take ur team seriously
@@Bighjr88 Have you seen who's coming next year? Aminu Mohammed, Jordan Riley, Jalin Billingsley, Ryan Mutombo and Tyler Beard. A top 10 ranked recruiting class.
You can't question Ewing as a recruiter. Just bad luck Leblanc got expelled, Akinjo transferred an then McClung followed suit. But still Gtown are Big East Champs.
@@TheMeefive I don’t put my faith in none of these players today so I will wait in see how they develop. But question how old are u?
I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time
I feel the same way about Georgetown. I was in Washington DC when they took off back in 1973-74. John Thompson took a 6’7” center named Greg “Big Sky” Shelton and a point guard named Ba-Ba Duran from Dunbar high school in Washington DC and almost win the BigEast Tournament and NIT. Like you I hope they can make it back to the top.🏀
@Brian Javitz Do your research, you will find out that there is a Dunbar high School in Northeast Washington DC. I should know, I am from Washington DC. Also Shelton was a center-forward playing mostly center. I saw him play in high school at The University of Maryland in The City League championship game against DeMatha High School in which Dunbar won.
This video didn't age well. Four months later the "Worst team ever" are the Big East Champs!!! Top 10 recruiting class.
I remember when I was younger I got season tickets for Georgetown. It was fun when they were good
I think Patrick Ewing will get that program turned around. I'm a Rutgers alumnus and longtime fan and I have experienced downfalls in the program before Pikiell came and now they are ranked. It happens in college basketball to the programs that do things the right way. Ewing has enough pull in that program to get it right again.
When I think Georgetown I think A.I and Roy hibbert
Can you make an Xavier video?? I feel like you can relate being in Cincinnati.
Xavier is literally the trailer trash of the Big EAST.
Please do a downfall video on the Michigan Wolverines football
Can you do the downfall of Virginia Tech Football and what you think they need to do to get back near the top of the country like they were in the Tyrod Taylor days?
I’m sure this will not be a priority, but I feel that SIU would be a good team for you to look over down the line. Take a look at their history and their tourney runs of the mid 2000s. The arena was one of the toughest arenas to play at for the longest time and even hosted college game day in 2008, but struggle to draw students to games anymore.
crazy how they beat creighton in the big east tourney after this video, then more suprisingly they only won 10 games over the next 2 years. man really feel for pat ewing, im sure most people wish it could have gone differently. hopefully georgetown can get a good hire and actually compete in the big east once again
You should do a video about New Mexico Lobos basketball
This take hasn’t aged too well😅
Aged like fine wine
Its also important to note how the collapse of the old big east played a role in georgetown's downfall. Without the big name fbs schools of the old big east, the perception of the big east declined drastically, leading many recruits to go to other conferences
Not really true, the Big East is still a top 4 conference in basketball
James akinjo was not kicked off team he left
exactly
James Akinjo Joshua LeBlanc were not kicked off of the team. They both submitted transfer requests.
I played Xbox and went to school with JT IV, great Kid, sophomore in college now.
Your prediction sucked..BUT I can hear your compassion. Glad your wish came true. Happy to see Georgetown back! Georgetown, UNLV and FAB 5 were monumental to the culture. There was a time the Georgetown jacket was super popular. Great memories... Thanks for that!
His prediction is accurate.
Georgetown sits at the BOTTOM of the Big EAST and next to bottom last season.
Did his pediction suck because you feel "offended" about the fact that Pat Ewing is receiving criticism? Or are you "offended" because the deserved criticism directed toward Ewing is directed at a black coach?
Would you be able to do a downfall of Texas video Cole?
Do a video on the Wisconsin badgers
Aye love the vid bro
This makes me feel a little better about Louisville situation.
Georgetown just won the Big East!! 3/21 Patrick and team started at the bottom this season and made their way to the top. John Thompson would be very proud!
Not anymore 😂
@@saikono5547 lol
Watched this video a while ago. As a life long G town fan having stuck through the good and bad and all the doubters we stuck through and won. Y’all hated while we worked
Facts. I watched this a couple months ago and came back today after they won the Big East Championship.
In fairness I thought they were toast when Mac left but Dante Harris is a stud. Wouldn't have known it if Mac had stayed.
Aged like milk
@cole adams do a Washington huskies bball
Gtown has a chance to land a top 10 recruiting class next year. They will surprise people this season, if there is a season.
Georgetown is like St Johns now :(
How dare you
cole adams been goated for a while 🤴🏼
al least the future is bright for us kinda i think will do well
Video about Villanova basketball?
Michael Graham was the reason they won their championship . PERIOD !!!!
the rise of Iowa State Football!!
and first
Who told you that John Thompson got to Georgetown in '72 and they only got good 10 years once Ewing arrived?
Under Thompson--AND BEFORE PATRICK--they went:
12-14, 13-13, 18-10, 21-7, 19-9, 23-8, 24-5, 26-6, 20-12.
Also, I'm not sure you can say "physically impose you."
Good luck.
The year prior they were 3-23.
A video like this about DePaul would be interesting
The Meyers left thats what happened
Downfall of Chicago Cubs!! 🐻
So Thompson hired in 72 and finally went to a Final Four in 82, what happened in those 9 years BE- Before Ewing? Five NCAA's, and an Elite Eight. After AI left, his teams were OK. Thompson didn't leave a cupboard full of talent when he left. Georgetown, will find that when trying to rebuild a once proud program, you hire the best coach! Not a coach who had ties to the past regime! I know this example is football, but Nick Saban had nothing to do with Alabama. But, he got hired and has led them to countless National Titles.
How's Ewing looking now?
@@TheMeefive Getting hot in 4-5 days is nothing. It happens. He went 7-9 in the Big East regular season this year. Yeah, that's an impressive 8th place! Let's see if he can actually win a regular season title.
@@Lawomenshoops What team could lose Akinjo, McClung and Leblanc in back to back seasons and not have struggles. That was a major part of the offense.
8th place? They were projected to be last. Ewing did an amazing job getting this squad jelling at the right time.
@@TheMeefive He has been there 2-4 years, I forget exactly. Coaches have good starts, and then plateau or have losing years, see Thompson III. You can make all the excuses about losing the player, but it's not like those players came back in the BE tourney. His team got hot at the right time. A week, doesn't make him a great coach.
@@Lawomenshoops It's a legit excuse. Akinjo is scoring 17 ppg for Arizona and McClung is scoring 15.7 for Texas Tech. They were Georgetown's starting backcourt and top 2 scorers. Ewing was forced to start Dante Harris, an unheralded freshman, in place of his top scorer. The reason they got hot at the right time is because Ewing made the necessary adjustments.
Nobody's calling him a great coach. It's too early for that. But he did an amazing job getting his team to a Big East championship win.
Man this backfired quickly
For sure
No it didn't
ST JOHNS will never recover . Chris mullin. Walter Berry , mark Jackson , RonArtest . The Big East was a Beast .
If you wanna stay Big East please please please do the rise, fall, and potential rise again of UConn!
You should do the rise of Tennessee basketball
You should do something about Duke in any sport
Georgetown should be fair this year
re. john Thompson III.
what many people do not understand is a "Jr." is NOT the equivalent to a "II".
So, If a father wants a Jr. that is fine. However this Jr. is not a II. So, The father can have another son and name him II, or the Jr. can have a son and name him II.
Personally I like the Rise of _____ more than the Downfall of _____ videos
Georgetown Thompson Ewing Jackson Brodnaux Wingate Graham Dalton Reggie Williams Billy Martin Tillman Zo Dikembe AI and makes you think of bringing hip hop to college basketball back in 1984
Georgetown was good before Patrick they made the elite 8 two years before he came and was a tournament team ever year since 1976 years before he got there
Couldn't watch all of this . . . hurts too much.
Let’s talk after today’s game with Villanova this game will determine Ewing’s future, a win gets him credibility.
Never been so fast