HardByte Yep, they knew they were signing up for a task where they would almost certainly die - something a person with normal size balls like me cannot even comprehend, hence the respect.
Retired military. The 1 thing civilians don't do is maintenance training. I have an unblemished driving record because of refresher training. annual rifle training keeps my bullets in the black. Constant training would move my group into the "V ring". The same goes with PT scores under dire conditions.
Well, first off, no he didn't watch. He.... -covered the rear of Shugart and Gordan -landed the chopper in the only clearing more miles in the city (this allowed himself and his whole crew to survive) -survived being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu with a broken leg, shattered spine, etc. He's a hero man, just accept it.
my respect to the Ranger Chalks and the 160th SOAR,and the 10th Mountain Division who went in after them.Those who lost their lives there are heroes in my book.
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Thanks to Royal Malaysia Regiment ( Mechanised ) as QRF in Somalia then, who put their troopers life on the line to saves the very life of stranded American Rangers and Special Force and bring most of them out safely.Rest in peace Lance Corporal Aznan Mat Awang, the trooper driver of Malaysia condor that sacrifice his life to ensured the survival of his Malaysian troopers and US personnels in his APC.Malaysia APC stayed for hours to ensured every surviving members of Malaysian and US personnels are brought out either dead or alive for nobody will be left behind.The truth should not be reprossed or erased for the convenient of others.
Thank you for posting this video of Mr. Durant's speech. As a Canadian, my knowledge of Mr. Durant is limited to the film, which is not entirely accurate. I appreciated hearing his first hand account of his experiences and his views on the good, the bad, and the ugly of the fight he was involved in. Those in the audience at this speech were very lucky to have the chance to speak with Mr. Durant.
I think he knew back then when he signed up for and what he would might be involved in. To me he isn't a hero nor any soldiers because the politicians (Right as Left-wing parties) send out soldiers to fight for some oil. This conflict in the 90's back then was with good intentions but just poorly handeled. It's my opinion though I4m not saying you're wrong nor right, neither am I.
Mr. Durant: at 24:58, you say that there were no shots fired. I am going to disagree with you as my unit was the first aircraft to land after you watched the SEALs land on the beach. My advance party drove to 'Sword Base' and took the compound. We were able to oust about 80% of the population by simply arriving with our interpreter saying something to the effect of "Ya'll need to find another place to be." The remaining 20% needed a little encouragement which came from my battalion commander firing two rounds from his service pistol into the air and demanding that the rest of them make haste. There *were* shots fired within 2 hours of those SEALs landing on the beach. My ears rang for hours because of them.
Mr Voight. Much respect. You seemed to get reaction from very little direct aggressive action. Two pistol shots fired into air and a bit of verbal encouragement. Worst thing I did was watch black hawk down dvd. Then discovered truth. Big difference. I am Ageing Hippy too old to go to war and not inclined. I do recognise bravery when I come across it though. I think I recognise good leadership as well. My pleasure to have read your direct input. Who do we trust when trying to discover what happened. Hollywood cannot be trusted. So I for one value your input. Thank you
What do you think about Durant's comment at 30:00; that law and order could be established by disarming the people, and we don't do it "because it's hard." I thought the reason the citizens of the United States weren't disarmed by their Government is because US Citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, as is enumerated in the Bill of Rights, a document Durant swore an oath to uphold. Did that oath run out when he retired?
You are a true hero and your story is very interesting. Thank you for serving our county. We need more people like you out there. The only thing I don't understand is why you would suggest disarming American citizens. If you take away guns from law abiding citizens than only bad people would have guns. Don't you think?
Mike wrote a book called 'In the company of hero's' in describes what happened to him after the crash and what happened to the rest of his crew. Fantastic read!
God bless this guy. I cried my eyes out when I watched Black Hawk Down over him, praying he was saved... I hope he's not anti-2nd Amendment though, as one of his comments towards the beginning of this might suggest. Nevertheless, I'm so glad he made it out of that hell. God bless the United States military. I'm a proud Granddaughter of a WWII Silver Star Army Veteran. He's also a Purple Heart and just turned 96 on December 11th. Thank you for sharing this. 🇺🇸🙏🏻🇺🇸
The comments of the military disarmament of American cities shows where his heart lies and find it absolutely unbelievable that he would even think or speak of such a idea in direct conflict to our Constitution that so many have sacrificed to protect!! What was his motivation for making such a comment? I could never follow such an order if it was directed to me and I would immediately cross that line to protect the citizens and the 2nd admendment with my life if necessary!! In the military you swear an oath to" uphold and protect the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic ",
There are puppet masters, they own entire economies, governments, media, sports, entertainment, education, research, or course, all military forces, they spray the sky day/night, control weather, stage fake acts of "violence", false flags, (un) "natural" disasters, they are master strategists, manipulators, deceivers, their specialty is passing laws based on lies, creating fake history, erasing real (truth) history, and instituting, maintaining police surveillance states. Thanks to boot licking, zionist, mercenary celebrities like Durant, they will undoubtedly achieve their goal of one-world government, de-population, and totalitarian control. HW Bush stated it matter-of-fact in 1990. They are not traitors as those outside of the Order understand. Their allegiance has never been to their host nation, but to the NWO. If you haven't read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, the Georgia Guidestones, and watched the sky intently for days at a time, this will sound like pure insanity, however, rest assure, it's stark reality. "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws' - Mayer Rothschild. "If my sons did not want war, there would be none." - Gutle Schnapper Rothschild.
You didn't listen closely. It said it was impossible to disarm America because it would trigger mass riots and violence. By "disarming cities," he meant gangs in Chicago, Detroit.
@@corn_pop6082 ......"the first thing that needs to be done is to disarm the population. Let's face it, if we could do that in some of our U.S. cities, that would be a pretty good step toward law and order." - Michael Durant. He did not say "disarm cities", nor "gangs", he said POPULATION. You're obviously still sound asleep, at some point in the future you will not have any choice to acknowledge who rules you, and everyone, and everything else. Hint, it's the ones who coined the phrase "terrorists", and created hoax, "beheading" psyop videos.
@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies - Rewatch the video. He clearly states using the military inside the U.S. to disarm everyone would provoke mass riots and violence and be impossible. The thing about disarming cities was a throwaway, semi-joke, and obviously referred to gang-ridden cities, just "would be nice" to do it, but never discussed feasibility.
@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies "Coined the phrase 'terrorists'"? Are you labouring under the impression that that term was invented recently? Terrorism has been a thing longer than the United States has existed. Clearly the fact that the last four or five decades of American foreign policy have resulted in US citizens becoming victims of terrorism is one that your rather paranoid little narrative finds it difficult to accommodate. Repugnant actions beget repugnant actions; cause and effect. Oh, and "terrorists" isn't a phrase either, it's a word. Where did you learn English? Trump University?
I'd like to know if it was Clinton who had the final say on the denial of the requested Spectre and the armor. Or was it soley Aspins decision. A simple resignation and an "oops my bad" for this monumental fuck up was all the troops got.
What I wonder is who is Hero ? Those who defend or those who attack and by the way he is alive because of Ceydid the man who kept him under his roof and feed and treated him with respect then sended him to the army base that's why he is still out here and complain anyway much respect for all
I'll tell you who _aren't_ heroes: The sort of people that would use famine as a weapon, starving women and children to death because defeating the men of their tribe in open combat was proving to be too difficult. The sort of people who would seize international aid shipments sent to relieve the suffering in order to sell them on the black market for personal profit - _those_ people will _never_ be seen as heroes.
I agree. Who *really* is a hero, these days? The word is used way too much, and too much of our voluntary military receives that distinction. Touchy subject and very debatable. A hero to me is the guy who jumps off the platform, and jumps over the third (live) rail to shield a baby before the subway kills him, or the guy who stands up to today's swarm of PC gnats. In that case, truth is heroism . . . .
+Justin Zheng They wanted to do so. They tried their very best. He talks about them frequently in his book. And he would have been torn apart by citizens of Somalia anyway if the soldiers didnt take him away as a prisoner, and could have easily been killed while in captivity. (Forgive me if you say this with respect of Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon)
Those guys requested to go down and secure the crash, and they did which saved his life. Soldiers will go back into combat for bodies, they made a choice that defined who they were as soldiers and as honorable men.
Chase Rydosz for their actions they should been promoted like Shughart is a Master Sergeant and Gordon is a Lieutenant for the actions if they have thought about it.
The actions taken by gary gordon and randy shughart were completly voluntarly. They dicided to risk their lives to save the live of one of their brothers. They knew it was very risky to Go down on the ground to try to save one of them but they did it anyway because they decided that they couldn't just simply let one of their brothers die.
No. He survived be one of Aidad's top lieutenants choose him to be captured alive to be used as a hostage. He could have done nothing and let the people beat him to death but he stepped in and ALL the people listened. During those 12 days of captivity, the US was in a complete standstill as any attack on their part could have cost Durant his life. Gary & Randy were heroes through and through and most definitely deserved their Medal of Honor's, respectively.
Where were the Abrams tanks? Not in Mogadishu! Just garbage unarmored, barely armed HMMWV junk utility trucks which got shot to pieces. Where were the AC-130 gunships? Not over Mogadishu! They were sent home prior. Where were the Bradleys? Not in Mogadishu! Malay and Pakistani armor (the Pak armor was older American tanks which worked very nicely!) rescued the surrounded forces. Where is the accountability? No career was damaged by the waterfall of fuckups. Why the reliance on delicate, soft skinned helicopters with no fixed wing heavy air support? Wasn't losing over FIVE THOUSAND helos in SEA sufficient hint? A few Mark 84s in the right places and the mobs of Somali troops would have been a red mist.
Well, the US Constitution, in many people's minds, is written in black ink on paper that the USA is supposed to never have an army. It is supposed to have a militia only. The United States Army, Air Force, Navy, etc ... are a violation of that. They are "unconstitutional". They are necessary but unconstitutional nonetheless. You can try and write the law governing the formation of such armies in such a way that, no, they are actually militias solely controlled by the civilian government. However, militias are supposed to be citizen's formations not under formal control of the government or state. The US military is awfully proud of the fact that because it is an armed force controlled by the civilian government (the Commander in Chief is the President. In other countries, there are separate Commander in Chief. In fact, for eg, in China, the Commander in Chief of a military region has practically no direct superior. The Central General Staff in Beijing has only advisory role; they can not directly command the Region Commander. The Communist Party retains some political control over the Army; but they are not in the direct chain of command) its generals and colonels will never dream of taking a battalion, storming the White House and the Senate, and taking over in a junta. Whenever a US citizen keep complaining that its army loses this war or that war because the President limit the armed forces capability, I am always astounded by that. It is precisely the strict control of the armed forces by the civilian government that the USA has never had a coup. Nonetheless, ever since all the branches of the military of the USA become an all-volunteer, all-recruited force, they are going further and further from being a militia. They are, in effect becoming more or less a French Foreign Legion type of force. The quality of recruits, the ranks and files goes down, since usually the poorest will enlist. The quality of the officer is definitely going up; but it does breed a cadre of career officers. So it is understandable that Durant will suggest things that contradicting the Constitution; because his parent organisation is fundamentally anti-Constitutional.
Said by a lot of folks who haven't even read the second amendment. "Foul to freedom." I love guns, they're my hobby, but the reverence you people enshrine in them is fucking laughable. You love your fucking totems. Be it a flag or a gun, but you don't see the big picture. More people have got their panties in a knot over that offhand comment than anything he's said with the entire video. Do you think it's impossible that a member of the military, a particular one that can be called a hero, could possibly disagree with you on the topic of gun control? That HE'S ignorant? That's just arrogance.
First off, Durant is a soldier and an honorable man. Any as**ole who dislikes this or questions his bravery, honor, integrity, duty, allegiance or any of the sort is just pathetic.
The fact is I was stationed at Fort Campbell, Ky from 92-95 and saw Mikey return from somalia. You had to be me in order to have seen what I witnessed at the Sink that day. I will not say what I saw but I will say the American people would think differently about him. I too have many deployments under my belt and decorations after a stellar career in the army. I do not want to disgrace him for actions during combat just after the fact.
That's not the military's call. It's our job as voters to elect the Command authority that doesn't waste good men like Michael Durant. If we do our job these guys won't be a problem.
I would really like to know what happened at the 2nd crash site - I know he is the only survivor, but what happened to the rest of his flight crew? Gordon and Shughart? Must have been an awful ordeal.
24 really died and 57 were wounded real bad. And it was the pakistani Armoured Personnel carrier which came to rescue from the second crash site alongwith US Delta Force operatives. That is a fact bro.
I believe Sohaib is referring to the 24 Pakistanis who were doing the initial weapon seizure. Their deaths were the impetus for the assembly of military forces.
Would YOU be able to talk about how he was beaten with their body parts and watched them drag their pieces around the streets?? Would your mind REALLY want to back there? I think he has his own business he focuses on, his 6 kids and he's trying to move on w life. God bless all of these brave men Delta, Rangers, SOAR, DEVGRU, Marines and everyone who faught with courage and love for their brothers
I would think that what he's saying is in support of the constitution. The best way to control a population is to disarm them. Mike Durant is a die-hard Republican too.
+jaysonness No. You have to take into context WHY he said it and that context is the mission he's presenting for. When there is a major problem and that problem is pretty much everybody in the area of operations, disarming the people is a potential tactic.
+Soldier4USA2005 I looked at the context in full. He says, "From a military perspective, the first thing that needs to be done is to disarm the population. Let's face it, if we could do that in some of our US cities that would be a pretty good step toward law and order. Do you ever ask yourself; why don't we do it here? Because it's hard." He may be a hero, but he spoke some words that are truly foul to freedom.
Well, the US Constitution, in many people's minds, is written in black ink on paper that the USA is supposed to never have an army. It is supposed to have a militia only. The United States Army, Air Force, Navy, etc ... are a violation of that. They are "unconstitutional". They are a necessity but unconstitutional nonetheless. You can try and write the law governing the formation of such armies in such a way that, no, it's actually a militia solely controlled by the civilian government. The US military is awfully proud of the fact that because it is an armed force controlled by the civilian government (the Commander in Chief is the President. In other countries, there are separate Commander in Chief. In fact, for eg, in China, the Commander in Chief of a military region has practically no direct superior. The Central General Staff in Beijing has only advisory role; they can not directly command the Region Commander. The Communist Party retains some political control over the Army; but they are not in the direct chain of command) its generals and colonels will never dream of taking a battalion, storming the White House and the Senate, and taking over in a junta. Whenever a US citizen keep complaining that its army loses this war or that war because the President limit the armed forces capability, I am always astounded by that. It is precisely the strict control of the armed forces by the civilian government that the USA has never had a coup. Nonetheless, ever since all the branches of the military of the USA become an all-volunteer, all-recruited force, they are going further and further from being a militia. They are, in effect becoming more or less a French Foreign Legion type of force. The quality of recruits, the ranks and files goes down, since usually the poorest will enlist. The quality of the officer is definitely going up; but it does breed a cadre of career officers. So it is understandable that Durant will suggest things that contradicting the Constitution; because his parent organisation is fundamentally anti-Constitutional.
Said by a lot of folks who haven't even read the second amendment. "Foul to freedom." I love guns, they're my hobby, but the reverence you people enshrine in them is fucking laughable. You love your fucking totems. Be it a flag or a gun, but you don't see the big picture.
In the beginning, George H. W. Bush thought it was a 'really neat' idea. However, the armed forces are not efficient means of delivering humanitarian aid. Nor are they good at imposing regime change. The rest is inevitable.
Actually most of the aid workers were civilians. When Aidid's forces began to attack them it led to a military deployment. The military deployment started by Bush was ended in early 1993. That is when Clinton took over. The deployment referred to in this video was his, on his orders. He could have declined if he chose, but he thought it would be easy, which is why armor and gunships were denied. He didn't think they would be needed. Clinton beat Bush by dismissing his foreign policy achievements, "It's the economy stupid!"
Next time something like this happens we tell the population of the city "Fight the people fighting us and help us win, or we MOAB the entire city to dust." If the people in the city refuse to help fight then it's obvious we shouldn't waste any of our service men's lives and we should bomb the city into submission. Sucks civilians have to die but that is their choice.
I don’t like how he was talking about banning the 2A.However,I still read his book.I admire him,I don’t agree with some of his beliefs(love the 2A). He needs to give more credit to those 2 badasses
I am a full-on supporter of the 2nd Amendment. Gun control is useless against criminals. That said, there is only one way to eliminate all crime committed by bad people with guns, and that is to eliminate all guns. Simple fact. Another fact is that it's impossible to do so. Literally impossible. That is what the gun grabbers fail to understand: All gun control efforts are incremental, and lead to the disarming of law-abiding citizens, leaving criminals free to flourish. Or perhaps they understand it fully. CWO Durant understands that as well. It's unfortunate that his comment led people to believe he was advocating disarming American citizens.
My full respect to soldiers who died that day in somalia ,it was a mystake going there,you can't help or change countries like somalia.I love USA and i am proud of that,USA will always be a symbol of freedom! the alternatives are russia,china,iran,serbia,somalia &Co.
mamutcg How Europe? Sweden? England? France? Germany? Switzerland? etc. What about places like where I live, Australia? There are plenty of countries where the people arguably get far more freedom than the American people do. Seriously you Americans need to wake up. America was once a brilliant symbol of freedom. The ideals that America were founded with are fantastic. But the founders of America would be rolling in their graves if they could see the state your country is now in. You are no longer a symbol of freedom. You as American people are falling into all the traps your founding fathers warned you about.
i CONCUR WITH WHAT HE SAYS i CANT BELIEVE HOW STUPID AND SIMPLE WERE DECISIONS MADE OR MAYE BECAUSE IT IS REALLY INTENTIONAL. EVEN A 3RD WORLD CIVILIAN CAN RECOGNIZE IN THE MOVIE "BLACK HAWK DOWN" PRIOR TO THIS CLIP WATCHING THAT SUCH QUESTIONS CAME TO PEOPLE'S MINDS WHILE WATCHING IT..WHY WERE THEY APPROACHING THE TARGET SIGHT WITH JUST TRUCKS VIA LAND FROM A BORROWED HEADQUARTER IT IS OBVIOUS THAT LOOKOUTS CAN STILL OUTSMART THEM,,, WHY THEY DID NOT BRING TANKS OR SOME KIND OF IN BETWEEN TANK AND TRUCK SIZE THAT HAS ARMOR TANK SKIN ALL THE WAY UP TO SHOOTER'S LOCATION AS A PROTECTIVE BARRIER..iT IS A DOUBLE-SUICIDE MISSION GOING TO CROWDED PLACE THAT ARE NOT JUST SIMPLY CIVILIANS,,..CLEARLY THOSE HELICOPTERS ARE NO GOOD..IT NEEDS SOME AIR SUPPORT THAT CAN CARRY NOT JUST PEOPLE(THOUGH THE NO. OF MEN THAT WENT IN I GUESS WERE SHORT COMPARING OF THE NO. OF CITY- HOSTILE RESIDENTS/MILITIA??) BUT WEAPON SUPPLIES (THINKING ABOUT THIS DURING mIKE dURAN'S RESCUE BY 2 HEROES DIED PROTECTING HIM..THE 1ST AND QUESTIONABLE THING IN OUR MINDS WAS WHY THEY ARE ALL READY TO ATTACK HOVERING ABOVE BUT UP TO LAST MINUTE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IS THE TARGET HOW PATHETIC THAT THEY HAVE TO RELY ONLY TO A LOCAL GUIDES FOR INTEL..HOW RISKY THAT WAS..IT HAS GOT TO BE 100% SURE AND ACCURATE..NAVAL FORCES ALSO CAME TO MY MIND WHY THEY ARE NOT THERE THOUGH DID NOT REALLY DIG DEEPER ON THAT..KNOWING THERE IS VAST SEA WATER ON SOMALIA'S EAST..i LOOKS LIKE SOLDIERS WERE SENT TO LION'S den WITHOUT LIFELINE. HOW PATHETIC THAT WAS. I GOT UPSET/RESTLESS WATCHING THE SOLDIERS DIED AND GOT INJURED UNNECESSARILY THOUGH I AM PROUD TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE REALLY AWESOME! DARN GREAT! 19 DIED AND 80+INJURED AGAINST THOUSANDS OF ARMED AND HOSTILE CIVILIAN/MILITIS IN LAWLESS LAND??? WOW, THE VALOR!!!
the U.S army tells people that they dont exist because they are so secrative and they are one of the most elite. most americans know they exist but the army doesnt like to talk about their best guys
George H W Bush saddled Willie with Somalia more for political reasons than any humanitarian notions. And then in the aftermath of 9/11 and initial Afghanistan bombing and light troop presences, the policy became ass-backwards. Credibility was lost when Dubya did bin Laden's bidding by investing the US military heavily in Iraq on the ground in the ME where the jihadis wanted them. Smarter applications would probably get better results like Spec Ops, aerial bombardment and CIA ground efforts within alliances.
Credibility sounds very similar to intimidation. I think America doesn't need anymore confidence. Stupid governments and intimidation do not go well together.
I only disagree at the 9:40+ about the 160th only losing 2 soldiers, but one case in point is Operation Red Wings, was that not a 160th -47 that was shot down with the seals, 16 total people? Am I not hearing "only 2 soldiers"??? In 11 years+ now??
this guy is out of line with the disarming the population bullshit. I respect what he went through in Somalia, but his gun control comments are bullshit.
I f we disarm the population in the U S criminals will run wild in the streets. They will NOT turn in their guns. The second amendment was created to protect the citizens from a tyrannical government and so people would be able to protect themselves.
I find it surprising and sad that at approx 29:50, Mike seems to be a proponent of violating 2nd Amendment rights. He expresses an opinion that disarming American cities should be the first step towards law and order. I couldn't disagree more with his statement and as far as I'm concerned it's not up for discussion. I would suggest anyone take the time to read the Declaration of Independence and the "right to bear arms" should become very obvious as to why it's one of the founding principles of our country. His statement is very clear and is made after stating that the first step of a military operation should be to "disarm the population" and I understand that but disarming ANY American city, RUFKM ?
R.I.P. MSG Gary Gordon and SFC Randy Shughart. Your actions will not be forgotten.
What they did has gone down as one of the most famous and courageous Last Stands in military history, stop making yourself look stupid.
You dishonor them that is for sure.
HardByte Yep, they knew they were signing up for a task where they would almost certainly die - something a person with normal size balls like me cannot even comprehend, hence the respect.
legba eshu Keyboard warriors these days are upping their games :D
The Kapo Yeah, he is. Talks a lot of trash to a computer screen but will never have the sack to back it up. Don't waste your time Devil Dog!
"Sorry your injuries are not service related ..."
Retired military. The 1 thing civilians don't do is maintenance training. I have an unblemished driving record because of refresher training. annual rifle training keeps my bullets in the black. Constant training would move my group into the "V ring". The same goes with PT scores under dire conditions.
Well, first off, no he didn't watch.
He....
-covered the rear of Shugart and Gordan
-landed the chopper in the only clearing more miles in the city (this allowed himself and his whole crew to survive)
-survived being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu with a broken leg, shattered spine, etc.
He's a hero man, just accept it.
Great men that saved this pilot. Two me that won the medal of honor. They gave their lives to save this man.
steve hale you don’t “win” the MOH
God has a special place in heaven for men and women who serve their country. they are truly super heros.
Wow. This guy went through so much and to come out on the other side mentally ok is amazing. What an amazing guy.
He is my hockey coach
+Brother Hammer lol rly? i envy you
my respect to the Ranger Chalks and the 160th SOAR,and the 10th Mountain Division who went in after them.Those who lost their lives there are heroes in my book.
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Thanks to Royal Malaysia Regiment ( Mechanised ) as QRF in Somalia then, who put their troopers life on the line to saves the very life of stranded American Rangers and Special Force and bring most of them out safely.Rest in peace Lance Corporal Aznan Mat Awang, the trooper driver of Malaysia condor that sacrifice his life to ensured the survival of his Malaysian troopers and US personnels in his APC.Malaysia APC stayed for hours to ensured every surviving members of Malaysian and US personnels are brought out either dead or alive for nobody will be left behind.The truth should not be reprossed or erased for the convenient of others.
grande Mike Durant, exemplo de guerreiro e humildade, sempre pondo o Randy e Gary Gordon em primeiro lugar, deve sua vida aos dois da força Delta.
RIP......rangers
this guy is awesome and his story is truly amazing.. i enjoyed every second of his discussion
Really enjoyed this lecture. I read the book and couldn't believe this gem from durant.
Thank you for posting this video of Mr. Durant's speech. As a Canadian, my knowledge of Mr. Durant is limited to the film, which is not entirely accurate. I appreciated hearing his first hand account of his experiences and his views on the good, the bad, and the ugly of the fight he was involved in. Those in the audience at this speech were very lucky to have the chance to speak with Mr. Durant.
Daum, doesen't seem to have any PTSD. ...incredible survival, I would have just wanted to dissappear after his experience. he is one tough aviator!!
Very interesting presentation! Seems like a great guy, incredible what he went through
NSQD
I think he knew back then when he signed up for and what he would might be involved in. To me he isn't a hero nor any soldiers because the politicians (Right as Left-wing parties) send out soldiers to fight for some oil. This conflict in the 90's back then was with good intentions but just poorly handeled. It's my opinion though I4m not saying you're wrong nor right, neither am I.
Mr. Durant: at 24:58, you say that there were no shots fired. I am going to disagree with you as my unit was the first aircraft to land after you watched the SEALs land on the beach. My advance party drove to 'Sword Base' and took the compound. We were able to oust about 80% of the population by simply arriving with our interpreter saying something to the effect of "Ya'll need to find another place to be."
The remaining 20% needed a little encouragement which came from my battalion commander firing two rounds from his service pistol into the air and demanding that the rest of them make haste.
There *were* shots fired within 2 hours of those SEALs landing on the beach. My ears rang for hours because of them.
Mr Voight. Much respect. You seemed to get reaction from very little direct aggressive action. Two pistol shots fired into air and a bit of verbal encouragement. Worst thing I did was watch black hawk down dvd. Then discovered truth. Big difference. I am Ageing Hippy too old to go to war and not inclined. I do recognise bravery when I come across it though. I think I recognise good leadership as well. My pleasure to have read your direct input. Who do we trust when trying to discover what happened. Hollywood cannot be trusted. So I for one value your input. Thank you
What do you think about Durant's comment at 30:00; that law and order could be established by disarming the people, and we don't do it "because it's hard."
I thought the reason the citizens of the United States weren't disarmed by their Government is because US Citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, as is enumerated in the Bill of Rights, a document Durant swore an oath to uphold. Did that oath run out when he retired?
Jeff Voight how you gonna say seals, you mean Delta Force?
You are a true hero and your story is very interesting. Thank you for serving our county. We need more people like you out there. The only thing I don't understand is why you would suggest disarming American citizens. If you take away guns from law abiding citizens than only bad people would have guns. Don't you think?
I thank all the men and women who put their bodies and minds in harms way to defend the freedoms that we seem to take for granted.
A very honest talk the comments about disarming American cities has some value.
Mike wrote a book called 'In the company of hero's' in describes what happened to him after the crash and what happened to the rest of his crew. Fantastic read!
God bless this guy. I cried my eyes out when I watched Black Hawk Down over him, praying he was saved... I hope he's not anti-2nd Amendment though, as one of his comments towards the beginning of this might suggest. Nevertheless, I'm so glad he made it out of that hell. God bless the United States military. I'm a proud Granddaughter of a WWII Silver Star Army Veteran. He's also a Purple Heart and just turned 96 on December 11th. Thank you for sharing this.
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Great video thank you for uploading this...
NSDQ!! Thank you guys!!
The comments of the military disarmament of American cities shows where his heart lies and find it absolutely unbelievable that he would even think or speak of such a idea in direct conflict to our Constitution that so many have sacrificed to protect!! What was his motivation for making such a comment? I could never follow such an order if it was directed to me and I would immediately cross that line to protect the citizens and the 2nd admendment with my life if necessary!! In the military you swear an oath to" uphold and protect the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic ",
There are puppet masters, they own entire economies, governments, media, sports, entertainment, education, research, or course, all military forces, they spray the sky day/night, control weather, stage fake acts of "violence", false flags, (un) "natural" disasters, they are master strategists, manipulators, deceivers, their specialty is passing laws based on lies, creating fake history, erasing real (truth) history, and instituting, maintaining police surveillance states. Thanks to boot licking, zionist, mercenary celebrities like Durant, they will undoubtedly achieve their goal of one-world government, de-population, and totalitarian control. HW Bush stated it matter-of-fact in 1990. They are not traitors as those outside of the Order understand. Their allegiance has never been to their host nation, but to the NWO. If you haven't read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, the Georgia Guidestones, and watched the sky intently for days at a time, this will sound like pure insanity, however, rest assure, it's stark reality. "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws' - Mayer Rothschild. "If my sons did not want war, there would be none." - Gutle Schnapper Rothschild.
You didn't listen closely. It said it was impossible to disarm America because it would trigger mass riots and violence. By "disarming cities," he meant gangs in Chicago, Detroit.
@@corn_pop6082 ......"the first thing that needs to be done is to disarm the population. Let's face it, if we could do that in some of our U.S. cities, that would be a pretty good step toward law and order." - Michael Durant. He did not say "disarm cities", nor "gangs", he said POPULATION. You're obviously still sound asleep, at some point in the future you will not have any choice to acknowledge who rules you, and everyone, and everything else. Hint, it's the ones who coined the phrase "terrorists", and created hoax, "beheading" psyop videos.
@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies - Rewatch the video. He clearly states using the military inside the U.S. to disarm everyone would provoke mass riots and violence and be impossible. The thing about disarming cities was a throwaway, semi-joke, and obviously referred to gang-ridden cities, just "would be nice" to do it, but never discussed feasibility.
@@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies "Coined the phrase 'terrorists'"? Are you labouring under the impression that that term was invented recently? Terrorism has been a thing longer than the United States has existed. Clearly the fact that the last four or five decades of American foreign policy have resulted in US citizens becoming victims of terrorism is one that your rather paranoid little narrative finds it difficult to accommodate. Repugnant actions beget repugnant actions; cause and effect.
Oh, and "terrorists" isn't a phrase either, it's a word. Where did you learn English? Trump University?
I'd like to know if it was Clinton who had the final say on the denial of the requested Spectre and the armor. Or was it soley Aspins decision. A simple resignation and an "oops my bad" for this monumental fuck up was all the troops got.
This is a great story about bravery, which apparently we did not learn from.
It was incredible survival and I was one of those who gave him help while he was in the hand of the great African lion General Mohamed farah Aidid
Hawiye naga aamus
R.I.P. Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart bless their souls and families.
It doesn't matter, they deserve to be honored regardless.
What I wonder is who is Hero ? Those who defend or those who attack and by the way he is alive because of Ceydid the man who kept him under his roof and feed and treated him with respect then sended him to the army base that's why he is still out here and complain anyway much respect for all
I'll tell you who _aren't_ heroes: The sort of people that would use famine as a weapon, starving women and children to death because defeating the men of their tribe in open combat was proving to be too difficult. The sort of people who would seize international aid shipments sent to relieve the suffering in order to sell them on the black market for personal profit - _those_ people will _never_ be seen as heroes.
I agree. Who *really* is a hero, these days? The word is used way too much, and too much of our voluntary military receives that distinction. Touchy subject and very debatable. A hero to me is the guy who jumps off the platform, and jumps over the third (live) rail to shield a baby before the subway kills him, or the guy who stands up to today's swarm of PC gnats. In that case, truth is heroism . . . .
Some great insight from Mike. Lets hope the lessons were learned at a political level. Thanks for uploading.
I'm from somalia I wanna
Remind Mike
Do you still remember when you get kidnappet by
17 years somalian boys
And help you out when you was shot by leg
If you think cities would be safer without guns please give yours up. I'm keeping mine!
+Michael Altemus Try Tokyo, Shanghai, Seoul, and Osaka sometime for huge safe cities without guns.
He survived because 2 soldiers had to give up their lives
+Justin Zheng They wanted to do so. They tried their very best. He talks about them frequently in his book. And he would have been torn apart by citizens of Somalia anyway if the soldiers didnt take him away as a prisoner, and could have easily been killed while in captivity. (Forgive me if you say this with respect of Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon)
Those guys requested to go down and secure the crash, and they did which saved his life. Soldiers will go back into combat for bodies, they made a choice that defined who they were as soldiers and as honorable men.
Chase Rydosz for their actions they should been promoted like Shughart is a Master Sergeant and Gordon is a Lieutenant for the actions if they have thought about it.
The actions taken by gary gordon and randy shughart were completly voluntarly. They dicided to risk their lives to save the live of one of their brothers. They knew it was very risky to Go down on the ground to try to save one of them but they did it anyway because they decided that they couldn't just simply let one of their brothers die.
No. He survived be one of Aidad's top lieutenants choose him to be captured alive to be used as a hostage. He could have done nothing and let the people beat him to death but he stepped in and ALL the people listened. During those 12 days of captivity, the US was in a complete standstill as any attack on their part could have cost Durant his life.
Gary & Randy were heroes through and through and most definitely deserved their Medal of Honor's, respectively.
160th SOAR is an amazing unit!
Where were the Abrams tanks? Not in Mogadishu! Just garbage unarmored, barely armed HMMWV junk utility trucks which got shot to pieces.
Where were the AC-130 gunships? Not over Mogadishu! They were sent home prior.
Where were the Bradleys? Not in Mogadishu! Malay and Pakistani armor (the Pak armor was older American tanks which worked very nicely!) rescued the surrounded forces.
Where is the accountability? No career was damaged by the waterfall of fuckups.
Why the reliance on delicate, soft skinned helicopters with no fixed wing heavy air support? Wasn't losing over FIVE THOUSAND helos in SEA sufficient hint? A few Mark 84s in the right places and the mobs of Somali troops would have been a red mist.
Michael Hero!!
I love this Story!
The disarming Americans thing was a bit troubling....... Guess Durant hasn't read The Second Amendment...
Jason Smith Because Americans are making such great use of the Second Amendment...
We sure are. Gun crime down. Self-defense uses are common. If Durant thinks they will take them from us he is dreaming in technicolor.
Well, the US Constitution, in many people's minds, is written in black ink on paper that the USA is supposed to never have an army. It is supposed to have a militia only. The United States Army, Air Force, Navy, etc ... are a violation of that. They are "unconstitutional". They are necessary but unconstitutional nonetheless. You can try and write the law governing the formation of such armies in such a way that, no, they are actually militias solely controlled by the civilian government. However, militias are supposed to be citizen's formations not under formal control of the government or state. The US military is awfully proud of the fact that because it is an armed force controlled by the civilian government (the Commander in Chief is the President. In other countries, there are separate Commander in Chief. In fact, for eg, in China, the Commander in Chief of a military region has practically no direct superior. The Central General Staff in Beijing has only advisory role; they can not directly command the Region Commander. The Communist Party retains some political control over the Army; but they are not in the direct chain of command) its generals and colonels will never dream of taking a battalion, storming the White House and the Senate, and taking over in a junta. Whenever a US citizen keep complaining that its army loses this war or that war because the President limit the armed forces capability, I am always astounded by that. It is precisely the strict control of the armed forces by the civilian government that the USA has never had a coup.
Nonetheless, ever since all the branches of the military of the USA become an all-volunteer, all-recruited force, they are going further and further from being a militia. They are, in effect becoming more or less a French Foreign Legion type of force. The quality of recruits, the ranks and files goes down, since usually the poorest will enlist. The quality of the officer is definitely going up; but it does breed a cadre of career officers.
So it is understandable that Durant will suggest things that contradicting the Constitution; because his parent organisation is fundamentally anti-Constitutional.
Said by a lot of folks who haven't even read the second amendment. "Foul to freedom." I love guns, they're my hobby, but the reverence you people enshrine in them is fucking laughable. You love your fucking totems. Be it a flag or a gun, but you don't see the big picture. More people have got their panties in a knot over that offhand comment than anything he's said with the entire video. Do you think it's impossible that a member of the military, a particular one that can be called a hero, could possibly disagree with you on the topic of gun control? That HE'S ignorant? That's just arrogance.
Great story. Durant is an impressive human being.
that's one badass dude right there
First off, Durant is a soldier and an honorable man. Any as**ole who dislikes this or questions his bravery, honor, integrity, duty, allegiance or any of the sort is just pathetic.
The fact is I was stationed at Fort Campbell, Ky from 92-95 and saw Mikey return from somalia. You had to be me in order to have seen what I witnessed at the Sink that day. I will not say what I saw but I will say the American people would think differently about him. I too have many deployments under my belt and decorations after a stellar career in the army. I do not want to disgrace him for actions during combat just after the fact.
Care to elaborate? Legitimate curiosity
How is he a war monger? The US was trying to help the Somali people get food and supplies which were being denied to them by warlords.
this is a man I want to work for
Badass level 17
Street credibility : over 9000
Randy and Gary were the true heroes in that war. Also, does anyone know where Eversmann
disappeared to?
I'm not 100% sure, but I think he is an ordained minister somewhere
Anyone else think he was going to fall through that notch on the floor?
Check Battle of Mogadishu 1993 on wikipidea. Don't say they didn't die when you don't know.
God Bless you. Every CZcams post should have this Warning. Thanks.
Did they really fly above head saying, “Mike Durant, we won’t leave you behind!” over a loudspeaker?
That's not the military's call. It's our job as voters to elect the Command authority that doesn't waste good men like Michael Durant. If we do our job these guys won't be a problem.
I would really like to know what happened at the 2nd crash site - I know he is the only survivor, but what happened to the rest of his flight crew? Gordon and Shughart? Must have been an awful ordeal.
24 really died and 57 were wounded real bad. And it was the pakistani Armoured Personnel carrier which came to rescue from the second crash site alongwith US Delta Force operatives. That is a fact bro.
I wish Mike knew that shugart and gordon defended his crash site.
I believe Sohaib is referring to the 24 Pakistanis who were doing the initial weapon seizure. Their deaths were the impetus for the assembly of military forces.
He doesn't really give Shughart and Gordon much credit
He really should talk about them a lot more, A lot more
Would YOU be able to talk about how he was beaten with their body parts and watched them drag their pieces around the streets?? Would your mind REALLY want to back there? I think he has his own business he focuses on, his 6 kids and he's trying to move on w life. God bless all of these brave men Delta, Rangers, SOAR, DEVGRU, Marines and everyone who faught with courage and love for their brothers
Why would anyone downvote this man?
I would think that what he's saying is in support of the constitution. The best way to control a population is to disarm them.
Mike Durant is a die-hard Republican too.
29:50. Does this man suggest disarming the free American people? I find this interesting.
+jaysonness No. You have to take into context WHY he said it and that context is the mission he's presenting for. When there is a major problem and that problem is pretty much everybody in the area of operations, disarming the people is a potential tactic.
+Soldier4USA2005 I looked at the context in full. He says, "From a military perspective, the first thing that needs to be done is to disarm the population. Let's face it, if we could do that in some of our US cities that would be a pretty good step toward law and order. Do you ever ask yourself; why don't we do it here? Because it's hard." He may be a hero, but he spoke some words that are truly foul to freedom.
Well, the US Constitution, in many people's minds, is written in black ink on paper that the USA is supposed to never have an army. It is supposed to have a militia only. The United States Army, Air Force, Navy, etc ... are a violation of that. They are "unconstitutional". They are a necessity but unconstitutional nonetheless. You can try and write the law governing the formation of such armies in such a way that, no, it's actually a militia solely controlled by the civilian government. The US military is awfully proud of the fact that because it is an armed force controlled by the civilian government (the Commander in Chief is the President. In other countries, there are separate Commander in Chief. In fact, for eg, in China, the Commander in Chief of a military region has practically no direct superior. The Central General Staff in Beijing has only advisory role; they can not directly command the Region Commander. The Communist Party retains some political control over the Army; but they are not in the direct chain of command) its generals and colonels will never dream of taking a battalion, storming the White House and the Senate, and taking over in a junta. Whenever a US citizen keep complaining that its army loses this war or that war because the President limit the armed forces capability, I am always astounded by that. It is precisely the strict control of the armed forces by the civilian government that the USA has never had a coup.
Nonetheless, ever since all the branches of the military of the USA become an all-volunteer, all-recruited force, they are going further and further from being a militia. They are, in effect becoming more or less a French Foreign Legion type of force. The quality of recruits, the ranks and files goes down, since usually the poorest will enlist. The quality of the officer is definitely going up; but it does breed a cadre of career officers.
So it is understandable that Durant will suggest things that contradicting the Constitution; because his parent organisation is fundamentally anti-Constitutional.
Said by a lot of folks who haven't even read the second amendment. "Foul to freedom." I love guns, they're my hobby, but the reverence you people enshrine in them is fucking laughable. You love your fucking totems. Be it a flag or a gun, but you don't see the big picture.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 and I guess you do HA.
What is 'the Sink' ?
I would ask Mike Durant if the Commander in the field was right not to use the NGFS that was available to him.
I was 13 yrs old in that day
I was a Freshman in High School
In the beginning, George H. W. Bush thought it was a 'really neat' idea. However, the armed forces are not efficient means of delivering humanitarian aid. Nor are they good at imposing regime change. The rest is inevitable.
Actually most of the aid workers were civilians. When Aidid's forces began to attack them it led to a military deployment. The military deployment started by Bush was ended in early 1993. That is when Clinton took over. The deployment referred to in this video was his, on his orders. He could have declined if he chose, but he thought it would be easy, which is why armor and gunships were denied. He didn't think they would be needed. Clinton beat Bush by dismissing his foreign policy achievements, "It's the economy stupid!"
Next time something like this happens we tell the population of the city "Fight the people fighting us and help us win, or we MOAB the entire city to dust." If the people in the city refuse to help fight then it's obvious we shouldn't waste any of our service men's lives and we should bomb the city into submission. Sucks civilians have to die but that is their choice.
I don’t like how he was talking about banning the 2A.However,I still read his book.I admire him,I don’t agree with some of his beliefs(love the 2A). He needs to give more credit to those 2 badasses
I am watching Black Hawk Down
Then why say anything negative at all? Why try to cast doubt about Mike's character?
I am a full-on supporter of the 2nd Amendment. Gun control is useless against criminals. That said, there is only one way to eliminate all crime committed by bad people with guns, and that is to eliminate all guns. Simple fact. Another fact is that it's impossible to do so. Literally impossible. That is what the gun grabbers fail to understand: All gun control efforts are incremental, and lead to the disarming of law-abiding citizens, leaving criminals free to flourish. Or perhaps they understand it fully. CWO Durant understands that as well. It's unfortunate that his comment led people to believe he was advocating disarming American citizens.
He is alive so he could tell why his friends died. That fight was not important for USA, thats why they left soon.
My full respect to soldiers who died that day in somalia ,it was a mystake going there,you can't help or change countries like somalia.I love USA and i am proud of that,USA will always be a symbol of freedom! the alternatives are russia,china,iran,serbia,somalia &Co.
mamutcg How Europe? Sweden? England? France? Germany? Switzerland? etc.
What about places like where I live, Australia?
There are plenty of countries where the people arguably get far more freedom than the American people do.
Seriously you Americans need to wake up. America was once a brilliant symbol of freedom. The ideals that America were founded with are fantastic. But the founders of America would be rolling in their graves if they could see the state your country is now in. You are no longer a symbol of freedom. You as American people are falling into all the traps your founding fathers warned you about.
mamutcg LOL So basically any country that confronts USA is bad, and the rest of the world is irrelevant. Your post is as ignorant as it is patriotic.
And i am supposed to love somalia and iran?? no thanx......
uegvdczuVF I particularly like the fact he can't spell mistake.
@@mamutcg we don't need ur love 🤬 where u see little oil oh let's give them democracy! In Somalia ur shitty democracy is dragged on the streets
Did you even watch the entire video? If so, did you even understand half the words he used?
Today is your day TFR.
i CONCUR WITH WHAT HE SAYS i CANT BELIEVE HOW STUPID AND SIMPLE WERE DECISIONS MADE OR MAYE BECAUSE IT IS REALLY INTENTIONAL. EVEN A 3RD WORLD CIVILIAN CAN RECOGNIZE IN THE MOVIE "BLACK HAWK DOWN" PRIOR TO THIS CLIP WATCHING THAT SUCH QUESTIONS CAME TO PEOPLE'S MINDS WHILE WATCHING IT..WHY WERE THEY APPROACHING THE TARGET SIGHT WITH JUST TRUCKS VIA LAND FROM A BORROWED HEADQUARTER IT IS OBVIOUS THAT LOOKOUTS CAN STILL OUTSMART THEM,,, WHY THEY DID NOT BRING TANKS OR SOME KIND OF IN BETWEEN TANK AND TRUCK SIZE THAT HAS ARMOR TANK SKIN ALL THE WAY UP TO SHOOTER'S LOCATION AS A PROTECTIVE BARRIER..iT IS A DOUBLE-SUICIDE MISSION GOING TO CROWDED PLACE THAT ARE NOT JUST SIMPLY CIVILIANS,,..CLEARLY THOSE HELICOPTERS ARE NO GOOD..IT NEEDS SOME AIR SUPPORT THAT CAN CARRY NOT JUST PEOPLE(THOUGH THE NO. OF MEN THAT WENT IN I GUESS WERE SHORT COMPARING OF THE NO. OF CITY- HOSTILE RESIDENTS/MILITIA??) BUT WEAPON SUPPLIES (THINKING ABOUT THIS DURING mIKE dURAN'S RESCUE BY 2 HEROES DIED PROTECTING HIM..THE 1ST AND QUESTIONABLE THING IN OUR MINDS WAS WHY THEY ARE ALL READY TO ATTACK HOVERING ABOVE BUT UP TO LAST MINUTE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IS THE TARGET HOW PATHETIC THAT THEY HAVE TO RELY ONLY TO A LOCAL GUIDES FOR INTEL..HOW RISKY THAT WAS..IT HAS GOT TO BE 100% SURE AND ACCURATE..NAVAL FORCES ALSO CAME TO MY MIND WHY THEY ARE NOT THERE THOUGH DID NOT REALLY DIG DEEPER ON THAT..KNOWING THERE IS VAST SEA WATER ON SOMALIA'S EAST..i LOOKS LIKE SOLDIERS WERE SENT TO LION'S den WITHOUT LIFELINE. HOW PATHETIC THAT WAS. I GOT UPSET/RESTLESS WATCHING THE SOLDIERS DIED AND GOT INJURED UNNECESSARILY THOUGH I AM PROUD TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE REALLY AWESOME! DARN GREAT! 19 DIED AND 80+INJURED AGAINST THOUSANDS OF ARMED AND HOSTILE CIVILIAN/MILITIS IN LAWLESS LAND??? WOW, THE VALOR!!!
the U.S army tells people that they dont exist because they are so secrative and they are one of the most elite. most americans know they exist but the army doesnt like to talk about their best guys
He mentioned it at 31:11.
I'm surprised by his comments. Just... wow. He sounds like a card-carrying commie.
Hats off to TFR.
Well, he's right about the U.S. losing credibility.
+J Curio unfortunately that started much earlier in that theater, most notably in Beirut.
Keep going.
brave man
hm....no?
Thousands of people are born every-day.
George H W Bush saddled Willie with Somalia more for political reasons than any humanitarian notions. And then in the aftermath of 9/11 and initial Afghanistan bombing and light troop presences, the policy became ass-backwards. Credibility was lost when Dubya did bin Laden's bidding by investing the US military heavily in Iraq on the ground in the ME where the jihadis wanted them. Smarter applications would probably get better results like Spec Ops, aerial bombardment and CIA ground efforts within alliances.
Legend mike
4 dislikes - must be the taliban!
Credibility sounds very similar to intimidation. I think America doesn't need anymore confidence. Stupid governments and intimidation do not go well together.
Some points in this video shouldn't be public knowledge.
I only disagree at the 9:40+ about the 160th only losing 2 soldiers, but one case in point is Operation Red Wings, was that not a 160th -47 that was shot down with the seals, 16 total people? Am I not hearing "only 2 soldiers"??? In 11 years+ now??
+333PanteraFan I know its been a whole year and I'm sure you've heard this but I think he meant two pilots.
Mark I think that happened after he gave this speech
this guy is out of line with the disarming the population bullshit. I respect what he went through in Somalia, but his gun control comments are bullshit.
Hundreds if not thousands of kens died that day vs. 18 American deaths. I'd say some of ya got it backwards.
C.W.O.Durant at his most modest here.
Oh course the best way to control a population is to disarm them. Why do you want the Government controlling you?
Idiot.
What balls!
I f we disarm the population in the U S criminals will run wild in the streets. They
will NOT turn in their guns. The second amendment was created to protect the citizens from a tyrannical government and so people would be able to protect themselves.
Amen
Amen
I find it surprising and sad that at approx 29:50, Mike seems to be a proponent of violating 2nd Amendment rights. He expresses an opinion that disarming American cities should be the first step towards law and order. I couldn't disagree more with his statement and as far as I'm concerned it's not up for discussion. I would suggest anyone take the time to read the Declaration of Independence and the "right to bear arms" should become very obvious as to why it's one of the founding principles of our country. His statement is very clear and is made after stating that the first step of a military operation should be to "disarm the population" and I understand that but disarming ANY American city, RUFKM ?
Nightstalkers don't quit!
is it weird that i was born october 3 1993