Line 6 Helix - It's All About The IR's
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Downloaded your IR pack after watching your presentation, as should "every Helix user out there" the best feel I have ever had from my Helix LT. Should be able to meet any mix situation with these IR's as nothing sees to be missing from the cab sounds. You oughta be congtratulated on a brilliant product. Well done!!!
Wow thank you so much. That really means a lot. I really needed to hear that today. It's been a long week. I truly hope you enjoy blending these together and getting the best guitar sounds you can out of them. Cheers!
I don't have a Helix but stopped by to hear that sick opening jam.
Loved it. Hell, I might even get a Helix after this. Lol
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed the music.
The real winner here is guitar tone. We live in a truly amazing time when a cat lover like Jarrod can make awesome Impulses.
My cat actually helped me make these as well
@@TONEWARSgearshow Typically I shy away from "cat lover IRs" as they are a little crazy and fizzy on the top end. I always try to use IRs created by people with Dogs. Fuller, thicker tone in my opinion. That being said, Yours are good. High and low cuts of end user choice and you are good to go.
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A little hissy maybe? That would make sense!
The one missing element with a great or not so great impulse response once it's being used by someone else or in a different capacity is in fact the most important piece. The cabinet from which the IR was loaded from and then the one it is being amplified through, oh yeah and then the guitar and pickups and more :) First thing I do with an IR is tweak or as you said multiple times sculpt the EQ of the IR against with what I'm working with. Thats what a sound guy has to do and I like it.
Great points. That's why I'm doing raw impulse responses. That way whoever uses them can tweak them for whatever they want.
Impressive stuff, I'll certainly visit the shop!
The best IR's I've tried out of thousands of digging around and must've spent entire days searching, but the best ones are by Ryan Harvey. It's in the catharsis pack for free and also embedded in the TSE X50 amp sim. Buster from humanity's last breath uses those and his albums are super crisp, massive and modern sounding.
Damn man, I’ve been making impulse responses of my own cab for years for the same reason. Did it with the axefx and then for the Helix. I’m use to the way my cab sounds recorded and live so I just made an IR of my cab. Did the same thing for some friends cabs also. I always told them if they have a favorite cab they record with or use live to just make an IR of it. Last week made one using my buddies marshall head as the power amp to bake in the EL34 section and he just uses the preamp in the Helix. Anyone can make them in like 5 mins. Glad you figured out the magic.
Thanks for commenting. Yeah, I'm doing my own impulse responses from now on. I'll be making more packs of different speakers for everyone very soon. I just can't believe how far off a lot of the impulse responses that I was playing were.
I love the baked in tube amp feature as well. I'll be using solid state amps and tube amps to do mine in the future. Having that warmth and fullness baked in is always nice.
I actually used my Blu Amp Iridium power section for this pack. I love how they came out.
@@TONEWARSgearshow I love to tinker so when I would try and get helix or axefx2 to match up with my heads mic’d I just always made an IR of my cabs because years ago I didn’t have a load box for the heads. The axefx had the IR maker in it before I had a helix and I ran that through my same Mesa cab and a matrix poweramp. So then I’d just make and IR so I always knew the sound I got direct was my exact sound I had miking my cab. It just always seemed to make sense to me for consistency. You have your favorite cab tone there that is baked into your brain just like I do.
There are so many parameters by mixing IRs or mixing cabs with IRs or just cabs.When I got to know the Helix , along with the Jason Sadites Eq and Comp settings , I love making the preset from scratch now. So many great amps too.IRs and Cabs are cool , I actually prefer the cabs now since 3.50.
Man these sound Freaking Fantastic! I'm going to Grab them this weekend looking forward to trying them out!
Thank you very much! I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Don't forget to do the high and low cuts as needed.
Also, try blending the DV77 with the V30. It just sounds amazing
I completely agree with u I can’t stand profiles or captures and ir’s that r supposedly mix ready or all dialed in and then u hear them and they sound like crap! U have the helix running through your ir’s sounding like a real amp and it’s awesome!
Thanks a million you saved me tons of $ I bought so many effects units
And it was the cab sims all along
Valeton GP-200 for $350 but it's tricky because you got amp, eq, global eq and manual buttons to dial in. Cool thing is, you can pinpoint 4 exact frequencies in global to dial out and set the que range...
That intro song tho. Wow. Something struck hard. Thank you! Video great as always too!
Thanks for commenting. I'm so glad you enjoyed that song. It's one of my favorites
I use a Boss GT1000 and I have a Dunlop 10 band EQ hooked up to the mono output jack. Then I run the output from the EQ into a crown power amp that is hooked up to my Marshall 4 12 cab. The EQ allows me to adjust the tone to sound like a real tube head. I could not get the tone I wanted from only using the internal EQ in the GT 1000. Adding the external EQ to the output gave me the flexibility to shape the tone exactly to my liking. I now have the exact same tone as an ENGLE FIREBALL 100 head without having to shell out $2000 to get it! And-no worries about tube failures anymore!
Awesome groove on that intro!! Loved it! Nice work
Thank you!!
@@TONEWARSgearshow Was that Intro with a backing track?
Ever since the latest helix update.... I stopped using all IR's. Way easier to tweak the tone I am after especially the dual cab capabilities. You can save them as favorites and treat them as your own custom IR's. The issue I have with other IR's is that they are tuned for a guitar with different pickups, different pickup heights... different playing styles etc...
Same reason I don't buy anyone's presets.....complete waste of time and money.
I heard the difference in the impulse responses in 5 seconds 😊
I’m back in Helix world after a brief visit to Kemper land so this is amazing!! I will miss that Leviathan profile tho anything similar??
Hmmm...try the Revv preset. I think it's as close as you're going to get on the helix
Yup you nailed it 👍
In order to play out and get things compact I’ve wanted to use the Helix for more then effects. I would get so frustrated with these “highly recommended” IRs and everything was just so f-ing sterile.
I’m so excited to start working with these and doing the tweaking myself to taste. When money gets tighter and tightest and CZcams fills with salesman after salesman it’s so great to listen to some wisdom from a real player who is passionate about truly helping out your community rather then score the easy buck.
Thank you very much. I totally get where you're coming from. I have lived through so many frustrating scenarios so many times in the last several years. That's exactly why I do these videos.
It would be interesting to see you put some older modelers through your new IRs and see if it makes them relevant.
That would be a great experiment...finding an older unit is gonna be tough.
If I run across one, I will definitely do that
Forget the IR that riff was insane
I started diving in plug ins and Its recently just for some practicing on tamed volumes. NOTHING compares to playing in front of the amp. The plug ins and IRs tones are great and dead cheap comparing to the real thing, but the real thing is the REAL THING. Can you tell in a mix? Can you tell on a blind test? WHO GIVES A SHIT. You can tell when you are plugged in and play for sure. Amps move air, and that cannot be captured, that thumbing feeling you get when you play in front of an amp and a cab is something special.
I've been playing helix for.a.year and I love everything about it Except that issue you talked.about here with it sounding like a blanket is over my power cab at times ,I've even went back to running 4 cable method to my tubed amp to go back to playing through it some , so im rushing home from work to try some of you irs , im praying I can find the magic your discussing here , wish me luck and if I do THANK YOU so much
I'm glad you found this content relateable. It's nice when you can connect with people that have dealt with the same issues.
My favorite combination is the Mesa vintage 30 with the DV77. Those sound so good together.
With the Diezel amplifier, the G12K100 blends very nice with the vintage 30 as well.
I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Just remember, make high and low cuts as and if needed.
@TONEWARSgearshow i got the essential ir pack its awesome , thanks again sounds killer
@@artytoney2057 Thank you so much! I am so glad that you like them
@TONEWARSgearshow good morning so I building up my irs and and some packs of your presets (Rev purr, invective, ect) and im looking at ultimate 4cm preset, so is this the 4 Cable method presets that is for running into reg amp , I do that some and love those type presets to have on stand by , by the way loving your ir/ preset combinations sound great
@@artytoney2057 Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the presets.
That 4cm preset is what I used for years
Is it possible to get these "raw" IRs in .wav format - to use with Iridium, Boss, etc.?
Would love a 412 with Greenbacks or the EVH speakers on the Pod Go, if you have either option available.
I wish you could blend the two depending on the room.
I've been watching you're Helix comments for a while now. I remember from a prior video where you mentioned the problems with the Headrush type power cabinets rather than your wooden enclosure. Does your IR pack communicate the same with an FRFR Headrush type set up? Or did you play through your IR's through your original power cab, which I think was a Friedman? I appreciate your video, and your work here. Would love to know what your opinion of your IRs are through the FRFR cab. That "Deezel Legit" is what I'm looking for! Sounds awesome, and hope that a dual Headrush type PA can replicate that same sound.
Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you like what you heard here.
I test all of my sounds through studio monitors. They are more trustworthy regarding getting a flat sound. That way, you can hear everything in its natural state.
The studio monitors I use are the Kali Audio in8 monitors.
I haven't played through an FRFR cab in a long time. The HeadRush speaker will definitely color the tone a bit. Hopefully it's to your taste
Hi there,
I've downloaded your new invective preset to try the IRs. I was a huge fan of the ML soundlab Marshall IRs before and I never felt they were designed mix-ready, rather than realistic representations of the real cabs. They definetly sounded better than the old helix cab blocks to me.
After a couple of hours comparing your IRs and my previous favourites, I have to say that yours feel and sound so much better. Congrats and thanks for making my helix feel like a new product.
I wonder why other companies choose to create their IRs too mid focused and “compressed”? Is it really easier to mix them in a DAW? Is it more convenient for a sound engineer to work with them live? I have so many questions 😂
Anyone used these with clean / edge of breakup / od live tones??
Killer sound. Been using the Helix for 6 years and at least for me the weakest point of it is the amp sounds. Now that I own a Quad Cortex I know for sure that the Helix is behind in that department.
Man what you said here Is exactly what I've been experienced all this time: have a bunch of IRs but everyone on the them just gives me strange feelings and I Always go back to my cabs. Is It possibile to get those IRs also for Torpedo captor o other platforms?
Thanks for commenting. Yeah I've been dealing with that same issue for years. I'm glad I finally figured it out.
As far as I know, those IR's should work with multiple platforms.
Let me know if you have any trouble, I will definitely take care of it.
@@TONEWARSgearshow thanks a lot man, I'll get them straight away
@@gr070491 My pleasure. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
@@gr070491 Thank you very much
@@TONEWARSgearshow I got 'em but unfortunately It seems that the format Is not compatible for captor x. :'(
stupid question but can these be used with an axe fx FM9? guess not but i'd definitely give them a try
I don't see why they wouldn't work with the FM9.
Damn... Your IR sound WAAAY better lol. It's not even close!!
Will these just work in modelers, or will they work in my DAW (Reaper)?
I've been really struggling to find IR's I like. Not knowing much about it, I've kinda been going round in circles. This must be why!
I'm looking for a 4x12 (preferably oversized, but beggars can't be choosers) loaded with Greenbacks (if you have both the 75, and the 55hz models in separate cabs, I'll have them both. If you have a 2x10 Greenback in an open backed cab, I'll grab that as well)
Any recommendations, that list looks massive lol. Again, they have to work in my DAW, because that is where I'm using it.
Thanks in advance, and great work!
How the hell are more people not talking about this???? Not all IR's NEED to be 'mix ready'. Sometimes it's just me sat in front of my speakers, playing lol. In fact, every time, before i record, it is just me sat in front of my speakers playing lol. I want it to sound like it does in the room, so I'm comfortable playing, and I'm inspired!
I'll mix it when or if I need to, later, when... I'm mixing lol.
Man, this is revelatory to me, dude!!
These IRs are 48khz wav files. I know because I bought them. And they will work in any Impulse Response loader or program that utilzes 48khz wav files. Just make sure your DAW is set to 48khz and all of your plugins are set to 48khz
Second reply. You need to email Jarrod and get the original pack he made for the Quad Cortex. DO NOT buy them from the line 6 site as they are encoded to work only with your registered line 6 gear. Which is ok if you are using Helix Native inside of reaper.
@@benburnett8109 Gotcha! Cheers man!
@@josephforrest3713 I just spoke to Jarrod and you can buy them from the tonewars website. They are listed under quad cortex and listed as an IR pack for the QC but they are standard 48khz and .wav format. Do you have Helix Native?
How can I find your product on marketplace?
Thanks for asking. Just look up Tone Wars in Marketplace and you should find everything I have there.
I'm confused. All these are for Kemper, QC and Tonex. Or do I just pick an ir pack and it will work with a Helix? Forgive me, I'm new to the multi effects amp modeler pedals. I don't own one at this time but will soon. Mostly doing homework on how it all works.
Thanks for commenting. These will also work for the helix
@@TONEWARSgearshow Excellent. Good to know, thanks for the reply.
@@BillPinkNye my pleasure. If you get them, feel free to do the high and low Cuts accordingly
Selling irs of your cab for helix?? I’ll buy it
Thank you! All 3 cabs are in the IR pack.
I always thought same thing you are saying I really never liked them
I purchased the TW ESSENTIAL IR PACK for $29.95 this evening, but I'm at a loss how to use them. The instructions from line6 are somewhat generic.
I just emailed you. Thank you
How can a person buy them for other hardware?
Yes you can. I suggest using some high and low cuts to taste
They're on my website here -
www.tonewars.com/tone-wars-shop/tw-essential-ir-pack-real-authentic-impulse-responses
Are any of these preset packs better for “rock” and not metal?
Thanks for asking. Try the "Arena" preset. Adjust gain to taste and enjoy
I just ordered one of your presets from line 6. Payment is completed. Will i get a download link or what?
Yes you should get the link, that is all handled by line 6 marketplace.
Thank you very much by the way.
Feel free to let me know if there's any issues
Also, check your spam folder
@TONEWARSgearshow yeah i havent got the link yet.
@@Robert-yr2tw Sorry about the issue.
Line 6 marketplace has total control over that
What preset did you buy?
@TONEWARSgearshow pull me under. I just got this helix line 6 rackmount and thought id load it on
@@TONEWARSgearshow Order #1012817
There's a difference listening to a solo guitar verses hearing it in a mix. When I'm listening to guitar alone I have more lows in the sound, but once you mix in a bass and drums it will sound flubby. So I'm guessing that "honky, hollow, thin" tones preset are to fit in a full mix. Your only samples were solo guitar riffs. Should have tried it with backing tracks 🙄
The intro on the video was a backing track
Did you watch the video? The opening jam was with a backing track! Wanna know how I could tell? Because you can hear drums and bass along with Jarrod's Guitar. I promise you this: IF jarrod would have done all the samples with backing tracks you would have been the ONE (1) person to comment that "it all sounds good in a mix.......play just guitar so we can hear the guitar tones alone!"
Stick to ZOOM.
dude I HATE the lo/hi cut filtering technique....why would you delete 10-15% of your guitar tone so the kick and bass can sit better? This is a 1970s technique, it's 2023 and we have millions of plugins and tools now and 5.1 surround etc.... We need to rethink this deleting of the tone with the hi/lo cut filtering, it's DUMB
the hi and lo cuts are there to make sure that you dont clash with your bass, kick, cymbals etc. But i agree - 99% of the cases you'd let the FOH tech do his job and take care of things without you intervening. i actually prefer some level of hi/lo cuts because modelers carry over a ton of unnatural digital fizz usually above 8khz (depending on the IR). So in order to make them less digital i at least do a 80/8000 cut on my fractal. That helps a ton!