ROG Ally vs Steam Deck Which Should you Buy in 2024
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2024
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The price of the Ally now makes it a very compelling option, and if you know what you're doing with Windows you can really strip it bare and make it a smoother experience. I have a Deck and I had an Ally but sold it and bought the Legion Go, ultimately it was down to its size, I have big hands and it was really uncomfortable after a while, the Deck and the Legion are so much better for me and has been great but I really miss the VRR on the Ally, if they make a new one with bigger grips I'll be buying it.
I'm a busy person, I have one or two hours a day to play games, when I click the power button on my handheld I don't want to be greeted with Windows Update, I want a Game Ready handheld and that's why I vote for Steam Deck. I think Asus should come up with a custom OS for their next Ally and not be crippled by Windows bloatware and endless BIOS updates.
@@BarryWardUK this is not the only issue I have with all these Windows based handhelds. The OS is simply not designed for handhelds, it comes with all the bloatware and crap you'd expect on a windows pc, drivers updates, terrible support and more. I already have Windows on my work laptop and I hate it, can't imagine bringing that experience to my gaming console too
I've got them both and the only thing I'd say about the Ally is battery isnt as good .
@@BarryWardUK I'm not saying the ally is terrible. It just has enough inconveniences that make the deck ultimately better for me.
The funny thing is the deck is known for having countless shader downloads/updates almost every time you wake the console lol
It really comes down to what fits you the most… this is my first ever “pc” and not having a steam library but having game pass Rog ally was the way to go for me
I was just about to get the ally. Guess i'll wait for ally 2
Whatever you can afford is best 😊
The best handheld is the one you have ❤
After having the steam deck for a year I sold it for 480 and bought an ally extreme for 450. The game changer is insane. With amd fluid motion frames I have ~70fps in medium graphics settings in horizon forbidden west where I was on the steam deck mostly under 30fps in low/very low with lot of drops in fps and crash during cinematics. For cyberpunk 2077 I was at 33fps and with some tweaks (lukeFZ) I get ~40 fps where on the ally extreme I'm between 100-120 fps. Helldivers 2 I was at 25fps in low settings and now I'm around 70fps with medium/high settings. Grateful to amd fluid motion frames who is impossible to install on the deck due to Linux...
For me, and my use as gaming it's a game changer.
I hope rog ally 2 will have trackpads. I'm looking for them with my thumbs when I'm using my ally 😅
EDIT : If you don't have an external battery or the possibility to be wired the steam deck oled is a better choice. Also rog ally needs almost one day to be optimized compare to the steam deck who is plug n play.
But if you have to stay wired, so probably at home otherwise it's a hassle, why not just stream from a pc. I can play cyberpunk at fhd 60 with ray tracing, on the pc, so I can either play on the pc or just stream to the deck and I'll have a way better experience than even the ally.
Owned a SD from initial release to the Ally's release. Bought the Ally and only picked up the SD again to prepare it for resale. The Ally's VRR, much quieter fans at 15watts, and ability to play nearly every game, it was a gamechanger for me. I spent way more time on ProtonDB during that 1 year than I will ever spend tinkering with Windows.
even in a head to head without amd fluid motion frames the rog ally just perform way better than steam deck oled. Setting it at 20W sustained under Custom Profile with a 1080P 120hz screen and VRR, it just blows away any competition. I've been playing God Eater 3, Code Vein, Witcher 3, Jedi Fallen Order, God of War, FF XV, NBA2k24, EA FC 24, Street fighter 5 CE + emulators damn it really change how I can still play while Im at work.
I'm on 40 fps with occasional drops to 35 on Helldivers 2 steamdeck lcd.
Have both but still prefer SD. Windows is a mess. Hope they create a better interface. Otherwise I prefer the power and more compatibility of the ROg Ally.
I tried both and went with the Steam Deck Oled. I like the layout, controls and ergonomics better. It just feels more premium. Battery life is excellent too, a real big factor. Performance has been great, no complaints. I’m the type that gets anxious about battery, not the fps- as long as it’s stable and smooth I’m fine. You can worry about one or the other in this market, not both- yet.
Gamers arent all the same and now gamers have awesome choices in handheld PC gaming. The choice really depends on the gamer's needs.
I may have missed it but I think you should have mentioned the steam deck oled and battery life, it would have hugely affected the argument. Some people just want a gaming laptop like experience like the ally. Some people want a truly portable experience and the steam deck oled actually gives you that with really impressive battery life. It makes the steam deck oled more like a switch in terms of usability and offers more performance over the switch. I think the rog ally argument you make only really applies to people who don’t already have a gaming pc. If you want to be able to play everything (things with anti cheat) then it makes sense. If you already have a gaming pc the steam deck is like having a nice portable console. I deal with windows on my pc and play competitive games with anti cheat with mouse and keyboard. Why would I want to play competitive games with a controller at lower frame rates?
Exactly. I got the steam deck because I wanted an experience similar to the psp and ps vita i had. Already got a gaming pc, no need for the extra horsepower from the ally when I can just stream the heavier games to the deck.
I took the Asus Rog Ally Extreme because of Windows 11, I love to change and program the Games how I want them and not how the Seller force me. And I also use it as a Desktop PC with the Docking for Work. So with the Ally I have totally Freedom ♥
I have the Ally and am happy with it. I like the versatility of being able to run browsers and applications like a PC on windows, even if it can be a pain at times
Steam deck oled currently playing Dying light 2 reloaded 60 FPS high quality 🎉🎉
Who has been having issue of screen not turning on? How old is your SD? I want to know if this is a common defect after owning the device for sometine now.
How was it now?
We want to see full power benchmarks. You can either install Linux or windows in each device.
I have the Oled and the only thing i don’t like is the screen tbh. It’s just not that crisp. I know that 800p is pretty much the limit of performance so it is what it is. I hope that the steam deck 2 has enough power that combined with fsr 3.0 a 1440p screen is possible. Preferably a bit bigger as well.
Looking at getting either a 512gb steam deck or the non extreme rog ally but with all my games being on steam I think I’m gonna get a steam deck
i just bought the rog ally but im planning to return it. I just want to play diablo 4 on the go with it but the problem is, it runs out of battery fast. I got 1 hour and 15 min running it on 15w, 50% brightess and capped fps to 45
I don't know how much wifi6 makes a difference but steaming game from my desktop to my Oled Deck is amazing. I heard it works well streaming from the PS5 , oled , hdr.
For game streaming, this is not a difference at all. WiFi 5 is already overkill for game streaming. Where you will see a difference is downloading if you have the bandwidth. And even then, you would be limited by the speed of the SSD.
I dont have a Steam Deck, but im super happy with my ROG Ally totally recommend. It replaced my gaming PC, i play most games on my bed in ultra settings. I use a fixed adapter with external memory and i replaced the internal SSD with one with 2TB on Amazon. I almost never played again on my gaming PC 😂
If your ROG is regular one that sucks extreme is best
@@jcc4543 its an extreme, the best one
@@jcc4543 My ROG Ally is the extreme, the best one!
The main reason I got the deck was the console like experience. I’ve had almost every main stream console since the late 90’s but the handhelds over the years always stuck with me. I know the ally is more powerful and I’m adept at using windows so I can figure things out …but just turning the damn thing on and only seeing games and game related content is a must for me . If I had to install drivers and mess with configurations on my PSP I’d be annoyed like crazy. The ally is a better gaming device for GAMING. The deck is a better gaming HANDHELD device cause things just work.
Xbox is slowly dying and the market share for gaming laptop & handheld is growing at a good pace. That will hopefully push microsoft to make a version of windows that is better at low power, have less bloatware & dedicated interface for gaming.
I had SD lcd, then ally extreme for half a year and I am going to sell ally and get sd oled. sd has better grip, better UX, with oled - better screen and better battery life. I just get tired to be always wired with ally, turbo mode sounds like a small plane and in performance mode fps difference with sd is minimal. VRR on ally is working on 48-120hz range, that means you need at least 48fps to utilise vrr feature. Fluid frames is really not an option for games with fast reaction or online. Windows + Armory crate is laggy. I just have ps5 for large games on nice oled tv and nice fps and settings. Handheld is for hades 2 etc. That's my choice
Sure!
The Z1 non extreme is not as good as the Steam Deck eveb at 25w. It is interesting that the performance drop off is not as steep as the extreme version fron 25 to 15w. But the aenemic 4CU on the APU let it down. Better for PS3 emulation though. The extreme is around 30% better on average at 25w... Which makes it a more like mini pc as it needs to be plugged in, rather than a handheld. On sale, it is sometimes the cheapest 7840U device you can buy.
I was going go for ally but idk will be annoying as hell needing to plug that thing 24/7 I dont wanna have to stress about it dying on me everytime im gaming...
if battary is what you care about most, i would look into the steam deck oled it has some of the best battary life u can get in a pc handheld
@@JustSomeJacob I decided to pick that got the OLED 512GB ill just upgrade the SSD later. hopefully the ROG ally 2 improves the battery like the OLED did. we shall see..
The ROG ALLY is the only answer
And that’s the one I want until I learn it uses a poorly ported version of Windows 11 why doesn’t use Linux like all the others? because ASUS.
The SD having a "Console Like" experience is complete Retconning. The description was never used prior to the Ally's release. Never seen a console where gamers had to adjust refresh rate, power draw, manual refresh rate lock, proton version, etc. The SD may be more "Console like" compared to a Windows based handheld, but ultimately it still operates like a gaming PC with all the settings users have to juggle to get a consistent gaming experience across different games.
What are these prices?! In Australia it’s $1,200 to $1,600!!
Even after currency exchanges, Aussies have it so bad
Big oof
The answer is the rog ally it has better performance and it is a better value hands down. You dont need to be locked into steam in order to play games
Fsr 2 and Fsr 3 makes up for the power difference in rog.
Rog ally has only one thing up on steam deck , and that is online games with anti cheat.
But you can still install windows on steam deck...
Console like controls is very important. If you want to tinker, get a gaming laptop over a rog.
Rog gets another plus for having extra power for emulation ( gow 3 needs it).
Hopefully fsr 3 can be implemented into emulation too to make up the difference in the future.
Price :
Steam deck used is winning for buck per performance. But rog ally is winning used vs new steam deck
Rog ally, you can spend alot of time trying to get a game running...and be exhausted after finally getting everything right.
Steam deck....these issues are gone as long as steam bought games. This is very important, console like.....
Did you buy to play games or tinker ? If to tinker, you should have got a gaming laptop instead
Great point about the tinkering. I don’t wanna tinker, I have limited time to enjoy gaming. I don’t wanna spend it tweaking settings. I think it’s Steam’s Proton that does all that stuff in the background. Makes it all very simple.
@@fawkesandhound At 15TDP the Ally is quite ahead of the Deck and will give you a few hours, not as much as the Deck but enough for my use (especially since I have a powerbank). Yes the Deck require almost no thinkering/set up once you open it before you install your game but to say you have to thinker more with the Ally for ingame settings is just a lie.
Rog ally but wait for the Rog ally X sure windows isn’t the best for touch handheld but you get use to it and all the games in steam can be played Rog ally is the clear winner
Rog ally is awesome handheld power is unreal
Hey bro, might wanna change the spelling in your title lol
I got the z1 for 250. Works better than my SD did. So idc
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had both, ally is not comfortable to hold in hands, and battery is garbage. If i want to play at home, I could stream on deck. Play outside 1,5h hour at plane? 1,5 hour? When flight is 5 hours...
I would completely disregard any game with an anti-cheat, since those are usually competitive and would be very annoying to play with a controller and on a small screen.
So there is no need for windows, which is good, because windows really sucks for handhelds. Part of the reason why I was thinking about a handheld even though I have a powerful setup and don't travel much is the simplicity - just pick it up and play. No messing around with windows, or its terrible sleep mode.
Battery life is a huge factor for a lot of people and you didn't even mention it. At 15W, steam deck oled seems to get around 50% more battery life - so for example 2h30 instead of 1h30 in demanding titles (and keep in mind that to have higher fps than the deck, you probably need to go to 25W with the ally, where the battery life will be even worse). At the lowest wattage, for old or 2d games, steam deck could go 8-12h, ally maybe 4-5h. That's not even a comparison, ally just needs to be plugged in nonstop.
Also the screen, oled is so much better than the LCD on ally... I'd much rather have oled at 90 than LCD at 120.
Finally, I played around with an ally at a store, they had a forza horizon 4 demo. Whatever settings I chose, it kept having huge frame drops. Frame rate wasn't anywhere near stable - steam deck plays it also with frame drops, but way, way less annoying ones. I bet the hw is good, but windows just sucks. Someone could certainly fix it, but I play to relax, not to debug.
Edit: I've been thinking about this recently because I've been choosing between the two of them and ended up choosing the deck for the listed reasons. Even though I actually already own the ROG XG mobile EGPU (for my rog flow), so I am one of the few people who could actually use the connector.
The screen on the Ally is better man. It’s not an oled but it’s atleast crisp compared to the deck’s screen.
@@Jeckaa84 True but battery is fucking shit. Im telling you if the battery wasnt shit this would wash out the oled off the market.
It just pointless to have a handheld if you going need to keep it on the charged all the time when your gaming on the go or wanna just play on the bed or couch
I can’t believe you didn’t bring up battery life not one time seeing how big of a determining factor it is. You really dropped the ball there. The battery on the ROG is HOT GARBAGE. I’ve literally played my OLED for hours with no charge on a lot of games.
you are right that I should have talked about battery life but I chose to not really talk about the battery life cus the way I use my steam deck I is not reply the common I run windows and I have a lcd steam deck so missing the battery life improvements that the oled has when play gaming on the steam deck (lcd) in windows in my experience the battery life is about the same when playing aaa games as the ally but for simpler or indie games the steam is better but not so much better that it was worth mentioning but is all to say that I should have talked about thank for the feedback I am still new to CZcams and this kind of feedback is very important for a new channel so that the content be better. thank you
@@JustSomeJacob I feel you for sure. Next time think in generality and not just what you personally use it for. Cause the majority of people that get a steam deck just wanna use it how it is right out the box. Most people aren’t gonna go and install windows on it. Good review tho bro 💯
Steam Deck looks and feels way better too
and the definitive final answer IS ..... the lenovo legion go :)
WRONG!
Steam Deck OLED seems to bulldoze the competition
Neat video. But Steam Deck OLED and SteamOS are better than ROG Ally and Windows 11 IMO.
Edit: Didn’t expect this to start a mini war in the replies lol.
Exactly and you can install Windows OS easily in 10 minutes if you know what you're doing. And you can play games that has anti-cheat and other games that you can't play on Linux due to being for Windows only.
You'd also get much better battery life, solid OLED display, Valve support for steam deck from day 1 to today is amazing and it'll continue to support it even after Rog Ally 2 will be out and Rog Ally 1 becomes irrelevant.
Steam Deck OLED is no brainer get that I already have one and highly recommend anyone to buy it. If you don't have much money then LCD Steam Deck is still a great choice!
@nepaliprayasgurung2594 There's also the trackpads that can allow you to play RTS and point n click games that you can't on the ROG Ally.
@@timidalchemist8475 is this a joke I already have rog ally and it doesn't have a track pad. Steam deck does rog ally doesn't have track pads just device touchscreen and analog sticks, buttons and shoulder triggers!
@nepaliprayasgurung2594 I think you misunderstood them. They were mentioning the lack of track pads on the ally
@@darkknight097 It's definitely my fault and I own upto my mistake like a man!
Legion Go....
Battery life.
Easy answer is steam deck.
For kids maybe
@@gossman15 Games are for kids, soooo 🥴
Easy answer... had the luck to be able to check out both and got the ally. Happy with my choice.
😂😂 ok if u say so
@@Guckkasten85 I have both as well. Ally is great for its performance which vastly overshadows the steam deck. The steam deck has a phenomenal screen and better ui.
The allys screen is so bad. I had to return it. Windows is just no good. I dont wanna be plug in to the wall to get decent performance. Gets so hot
You’re lying
@@paulwilliams2024 nope is more like is my own formulated opinion after getting one from best buy and not feeling right about the screen or playability.
ROG Ally is a handheld PC
Steam Deck is a handheld console
Just because you don't know how to use Linux doesn't mean it's not a pc
None of them are perfect. It will take another 5 years or so to get close to that point.
I will buy the witch😂😂😂😂😂😂
Steam deck...your welcome.
I'm going to be real with you. If the Steam Deck can't play the game, the game isn't worth playing.
That's my mindset to honestly, like if a game has a kernel level anti-cheat I consider that spyware
Windows OS 🤢🤮
Buy neither!! I bought the Steam Deck when it releases & liked it, but had limitations to the games it could and would run.
I then traded up for the Ally & actually liked it even more, Butt….
The Lenovo Legion Go came out & I traded up again and got the Legion Go. There is no comparison, the Go is the absolute best handheld gaming device on the market.
How is the go the best can you get into more detail