Should you get the ROG Ally over the Steam Deck?
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- čas přidán 27. 03. 2024
- The ROG Ally is probably the best Windows Gaming Handheld out there but is it really worth it compared to the Steam Deck?
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I returned my Steam Deck and decided to stick with my ROG Ally instead. Perhaps your unit is defective as I've never experienced any kind of crashes on my Ally. Although the battery life is short, we're talking about a small handheld PC after all. Personally, I prefer having Windows installed (even though it's not the best), so that I can play all of my games from different game launchers. Some of the games I've played on my Ally include RE4 Remake, Tales of Arise, Monster Hunter World, Helldivers, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Ghostwire Tokyo, and FF7 Remake, just to name a few.
I am glad I watched this.Though I played SO6 on PS5, I want to pick it up for PC and getting a Ally or Ally X to play it in a flexible hybrid format and potentially other games that aren't supported by SD. The shader compile aspect to SO6 makes the Deck a non-option. I own an SD OLED and a PC but I feel like I am missing that third pillar. Nice to hear someone mention SO6 though, really underrated game.
I concur. Returning my open box purchase today.
Sounds like you should return your Ally. We have 5 at work with none of those issues. I had the steam deck and sold it after getting the Ally. The sound is even twice as good on the Ally also. I have never had a game crash and with equal graphic settings my battery last as long as the Steam deck. I have a charger everywhere I use it anyway. The only person I know with the Steam deck finally installed windows so they could play all the games.
Same. My experience with 2 different Ally's has been flawless, except for the setup which was a bit finnicky for me. Nuked it and installed clean from a usb stick and manually installed everything. Second round I used NTLite and made a custom Os and it's been flawless too, with minimal post-setup work. Battery life has been great, besides on low watt it's obviously not as good as SD OLED. A fair trade-off for the power. Plus, BazziteOs runs really well. So best of both worlds!
@@JamieR how is the battery back up in bazzite os when compared to windows and what about low TDPs in Bazzite os?
@@saidevpappu Identical in my experience. Though I sold the Ally right after installing it to recoup before Ally X. Someone else might be able to answer more fully.
Great job! Thanks ❤
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review my guy
Thanks for watching!
i installed Windows on a seperate Micro SD and when i want to boot windows on my steamdeck i slot it in
Oh That's smart
Is it ok for you? I’ve heard a lot of people saying it is extremely slow to boot up windows on sd card. And games would also take a lot of time to boot up
I have thought about doing this. I might give it a try in the future.
Yeah I updated my steam deck to 1tb and dual boot it with windows and love it
The battery life is a no duh.
Steam Deck OLED has a 50 watt hour battery and runs at 10-15 watt TDP max. The Ally has a 30 watt hour battery and can run at up to 30 watt TDP, on a 1080 pixel display no less!
the only reason why I would go with steam deck is the touchpads, they are important how I play fps, or strategy, simulation games etc...
on the battery life side, I have the steam deck, and it really depends on the game... triple A will get 1 hour and 50 min max, with the TDP at 10w. like batman Arkham knight. full settings also 1 hour mark. But the ally is a full PC, so for the buck, it's really good at that. I already have a steam deck, but I'm buying the ally this year to replace my laptop. coz... I don't need the extra power, and I enjoy the portability.
I'm loving the ROG Ally. Had the Steam Deck and ROG Ally and decided to sell the Deck as the Ally felt more for me. They are both great, but what you'd like would probably differ from person to person.
The ally has a lot of things I like, can play android, Microsoft games, blizzard games, ps3, Xbox 360 emulation which a lot of systems can’t do. Steam deck can do it but it’s more of a hassle to install I hear.
Rumors are the ally 2 is already coming out in 2024, so I’d just wait for that to see if they fix their issues.
You can use Emu Deck to set up Emulators which makes it pretty easy. Process is pretty much the same as Windows. Xbox Gamepass and other launchers is a huge plus though. My hope is for the ROG Ally2 to just have better battery life. That's really my only big negative.
Deadzones issue looked quite evident in this video
I must not really feel the difference then 😂 thanks for watching!
Why i see everyone playing fortnite on low settings does ally xant play fortnite on high settings??
Competitive settings. No point in playing Fortnite in high settings.
Not sure why you'd compare the rog ally with the older steam deck and not the current oled models. On top of that you can simply install windows on the steamdeck and get basically the same functionality.
I don't have the OLED yet but will have it soon and give my thoughts on if it's worth the upgrade once I get it and play with it. Thanks for watching!
Thats like saying the switch og and oled were extremely different. Its just screen and a better battery
Well, i Kinda just want to "plug and play". Installing Windows, while it may be kinda easy, i still prefer to have it from factory.
@@idekanymore1152and with faster ram, thermals and audio. As someone who went through both upgrades the switch upgrade was so lackluster compared to the feeling the steam deck upgrade gave
I dont think u can install windows on steam oled. Its not supported
Nice vid, I think Steam Deck is the superior system overall
I’ve had nothing but a great experience with my OLED but I don’t play Cod or Fortnite type games
Indie games and single player campaigns all the way
Totally depends on the games you like to play..if it's anything with anti-cheat like Cod /Destiny 2 or newer AAA then Ally is oy choice
RoG Ally in a nutshell...
Pros: runs on Windows 11
Cons: runs on Windows 11
And while it has pretty powerful hardware, this also means it's not terribly portable. You get maybe an hour of battery life before you have to plug it in. That's not what I would call portable. It's more of a gaming laptop masquerading as a handheld console. So, if you want a console experience where everything feels optimized for running the games in its library and it just lets you take it and go right out of the box, then get the Steam Deck.
And the battery life is a no duh. Steam Deck OLED has a 50 watt hour battery and runs at 10-15 watt TDP max. The Ally has a 30 watt hour battery and can run at up to 30 watt TDP, on a relatively more power hungry 1080 pixel IPS display no less.
I also think that Valve will support the Steam Deck for years and years. It's a software company and it makes its money on you buying Steam games. They don't care so much about making money on the hardware. They want you to stay in the Steam ecosystem and the Steam Deck is a loss leader for them here. But Asus is a PC hardware OEM. Think about how they operate and have always operated. They are a hardware company and they make money when you buy their newest device. So they release products and quickly stop supporting them in favour of future iterations. Or they provide crappy support for them because due to their production cadence and price targets, their hardware components are sourced from all over the place and their whole logistics chain is extremely horizontal and fragmented. In its nature, it's a mess to support and maintain. And then there's always some jankiness to start with because, duh, it's a PC.
There's more to a device than its specs. This is something Apple understands. At the end of the day it's about user experience. The real value proposition is what the user experiences. Is that experience smooth, consistently playable, and requires very little thought or effort to pick up and play with? That's the Steam Deck. The RoG Ally is not these things. Sure, it has a lot of raw horse power. And just like with cars, horse power is great if you want to win races that run in a straight line. But there's more to a good driving experience than horse power. There's the whole experience: fit and finish, aesthetic feel, gas mileage, handling/steering, etc. To translate that analogy to things like console gaming ergonomics, thoughtful design, user friendliness, and battery life--the Steam Deck has the better value proposition in this arena.
I would buy a non-tech savvy friend or kid a Steam Deck knowing they'd probably enjoy it and not struggle with much. But I couldn't imagine recommending an RoG Ally to anyone without some big caveat emptors about what to expect. Given the form factor, people will naturally expect a console experience from the thing but really it's just a Windows gaming PC. And it comes with all the drawbacks of a gaming PC, with the added nuisance that Windows 11 was never designed with delivering a console experience and does a terrible job at it in the Ally.
all the people just acting like you can't put steam on the ally are blowing my mind RN
I like to think that a lot of people know that you can put Linux on the ROG Ally but want to know about the stock experience.
@@therandomencounter I've met plenty that act like you can't do it
Obviously, you can. That doesn't mean Windows 11 offers a better handheld console gaming experience than Steam OS does. The RoG Ally has many strengths in terms of raw performance, content selection, and customizability. But it comes with all the drawbacks of a Windows PC. Maybe more so, because the Windows 11 desktop experience is not designed to be very usable on a 7" in screen controlled by a gaming joystick and D-pad.
So for me it boils down to a discussion about value proposition. I see more value in the Steam Deck because it provides the better overall gaming experience with little or no muss or fuss. I can just pick it up and go without extra thought. Which is kind of the point of games, right? They're supposed to be fun. I don't consider blue screens of death and annoying Windows update popups fun. I don't consider low battery notifications after less than an hour of game time fun. I don't consider having to troubleshoot driver issues and run a bunch of third party updates just to get the thing working out of the box fun. But this is the kind of "fun" you purchase when you buy an Ally.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a PC gamer. I own a desktop PC which I built and customized with love. But that doesn't mean I want to tinker with my handheld consoles. I want a handheld console that functions like a console and that I don't have to put much thought into before enjoying it.
So which platform is going to give you more actual fun versus headaches? My bet is the fun to headache ratio on the Ally is going to be much more skewed towards headaches compared to the Deck.
Maybe in the future Microsoft will wise up and develop a Windows edition tailored specifically to handheld console gaming. And maybe OEM's will actually manage to properly support these things over time, rather than all but abandoning support for them as soon as next year's model comes out. When that day comes, maybe the Steam Deck's value proposition will have real challengers.
@@joshl6275 Windows definitely does give a better experience imo... more games just WORK without messing around too much
@@StrikeforceLegendKillerfea negra
Idk why you didn't do a comparison with the oled deck but these handhelds are for completely different people. The ROG Ally is for people want all the game launchers and better performance but don't care about the annoying setup or the bad battery life.
The steam deck is for people want the same experience you get on a console but with all the benefits of PC put into a handheld that can play their steam library. If I had to recommend one of these devices to someone id always say get the steam deck because their is barely any setup and it can play a majority of whats on steam.
I don't have the OLED yet so I compared what I had. While I do agree with that I tried to tackle it differently. At lower wattage the Steam Deck was performing the same and sometimes better than the ROG Ally. Thanks for watching!
ROG Ally is the normie's handheld that normies flock to when they wanna play their AAA normie games a lil better, sacrificing the whole point of it being a handheld bcuz AAA games are the only thing they know. The WORST games to play on a handheld smh
They're in it for budget PC gaming rather than portability. Either that, or they have no idea what they're buying and just following trends. The Ally is literally just a sports car with a 1 gallon gas tank. Best way to put it
If they want budget AAA PC gaming for $700, a Mini PC would do better in erry way to the ROG Ally, especially since portability isn't even a factor anyways. There's literally no point in having an Ally. It sucks at what it's supposed to do, and it can't even match a Mini PC of the same price (or maybe lower). I almost bought a B550 Mini PC for $700 back in 22. Uses DESKTOP hardware, a Ryzen 7. That alone blows the Ally out of the water. Goes beyond a measly 30W, too
And on top of that, the Steam Deck/OLED has better performance at 15W and less BY FAR than the Ally or LeGo in the same games. (Although that varies between games) Power efficiency is what makes a handheld superior, not 'muh power' or super high ends specs or RGB
@@cqllel5186"haha, they don't like the same things as me so I'm calling them normies (unironically). I'm so edgy... Mom! Where is My nesquick?
@@18.ismaelandremorenogonzal30 Somebody took what I said very personally lol
People only buy Ally for trend (except reviewers). It's useless as a portable gaming device and it can't even match a $700 mini PC. Trend followers, aka Normies, have no idea what they're buying. It's pure fad
I've been shitting on PC handhelds since 2018. Ally is no different than the rest of them. It's just another generic PC handheld with the same issues as the rest of them
@@18.ismaelandremorenogonzal30 Somebody took what I said very personally lol
how much money you get from valve ?
Lol $0.
I picked up the ROG Ally on launch day. After a few months of being frustrated with the experience it's my least favorite handheld pc. As much as I love fiddling with the OS, the experience having to worry about updates/drivers, OS freezing, SD card dead, I really regret spending that much $ on it. After I do the RMA I'll try to recoup the loss, hopefully someone is willing to buy it.
I put a 2TB SSD in mine to get around the SD card issue and replaced Windows with Bazzite which is a SteamOS like Linux OS. Much less annoying to use now as a handheld console.
The Ally with Windows on it is a gaming laptop without it's mouse and keyboard. I personally really hated that.
Fortnite is very playable on Steamdeck but you need to install Windows.
Linux is practically a deck deal breaker for me, don't tell me to just install Windows on deck because windows on deck have whole load of issue 😂
What issue? I only had one, installing graphic drivers was kinda weird but it's one time thing and I have been using window on deck for half a year now.
Windows is fucking awful as a handheld OS🤷 I own both an Ally and OLED deck..For ease of use and being a proper handheld console the Deck is way better. So much so I yeeted Windows off my Ally last month and changed the OS on my Ally to make it less annoying to use portably
You want to play more powerful games on a more powerful device but want the same battery life as a less powerful device that can't play those games. Not a fair comparison, and never going to happen.
Oh it's definitely possible. If the ROG Ally had the same battery as the MSI Claw, it would get the 3+ hour mark. Thanks for Watching!
No.
The ROG ally has too many issues from when I owned it and from what I’ve seen other people post
Joysticks are prone to drift and failure
Triggers are prone to full pull issues
Screen bleed below the volume buttons on a lot of models
SD Card port failure
VRR is great and performance is better than a steam deck but you can’t repair much on the ally and it’s prone to so many issues it’s a countdown until something breaks on people plus the joysticks feel super loose
no it doesn't
@@StrikeforceLegendKiller Be specific! What doesn't in his points about the rog ally? Stuck between getting an ally or the steam deck oled.
@@sureslick1 what doesn't what?
@@StrikeforceLegendKiller You replied as "No it doesn't" Can you explain?
most stupid review I've ever seen
Thanks for watching!
The only thing the ROG Ally has over the Steam Deck is overall performance. Errything else is either worse or irrelevant
ROG Ally is just another generic PC handheld. It's literally the exact same handheld companies have been making for the past decade, with the exact same issues: Over spec'd with a battery that does NOT last long, rendering it USELESS by default
It's a sports car with a 1 gallon gas tank. Completely useless, and subpar to a $700 Mini PC. It's done nothing different than any other PC handheld ever, apart from not being like $1200. The only reason people know about the Ally, is bcuz of the fad of the PC handheld market Valve blew up
And just when I thought 1080p120 and RGB on a handheld was stupid AF (considering today's battery tech), the Legion Go takes the clown nose and dethrones the Ally
I mean seriously, WHAT are you playing on the LeGo at NEARLY 4k res AND 144fps other than super basic/old games?!
Ah, the typical PC handheld. Not built like a handheld, but rather more like a laptop. Focusing exclusively on 'muh power' and neglecting the whole point of a handheld, a PORTABLE DEVICE: the battery
Agree 100% with this! Thanks for watching!
I got my Z1E for $600 and with the $100 I saved bought a 26800mAh battery to extend the life but I don't use it much as I use it on my way to work then recharge it for some juice on the way home.
The analogy is incorrect, it is not a sports car, it is more akin to a compact electric bike. Mileage is low but you reach comparable speeds. The faster you go the faster you expend energy.
Similarly, you are playing AAA games on a more powerful (and power hungry chipset) and expecting the battery to last as long as playing less demanding game. That is unrealistic and ignoring the fact that the handheld has brought to us AAA gaming on a portable mode. The use case for these devices are typically during travelling and light transit which usually last under 2 hours. There are also plenty of power banks and attachments that can essentially double your battery capacity, a workaround that can easily solve most of the known issues
Dunking on the 1st generation device discourages innovation. The earlier cars in the past barely goes as far as what we have today, the same with laptops and smartphones from a performance to power use basis. Terms like ‘clowns’ and ‘useless’ are not constructive to the discussion and ignores the fact that there is a demand for these kind of products. If these devices do not fit your requirements, I suggest NOT buying them now and wait till the next or subsequent generation of devices. Just gotta use common sense
Lmao, anything the steam deck can do, ally does better Facts.
legion go is better, the amount of triple A newer titles i can play at a steady fps is ridiculous . rog cant do half of what legion go does.
I debated on getting that over the ROG Ally but in the end I ended up with the ROG Ally.
that's simply not true and yes, I have all three
I saw somewhere people saying legion go is the worst? I'll need to do more research on it before I consider about it.
@@dyvawn okay troll. There's hundreds of videos already showing you all handhelds. It's top of all. If people can't get their hands around the controller well then it's not for them. But yet to have a triple A title it can't play at 60 fps. Unless there my hacked games they run 10 times better then game on steam and other platforms.
? the Go and Ally have the exact same APU in them performance is pretty much identical. I mean there's nothing about the Go that makes it's H/W better than the Ally unless you want a better screen or the detachable controllers. Personally the OLED deck is the most hand held pick up and play console of the three and for most people that want and expect a console is the 'best' one.