2001 - 2005 Honda Civic D17A1 Engine install
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- In this episode, I installed a D17A1 into a 2002 Honda Civic LX.
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Thank you I am attempting my first solo engine swap on my civic. I could not afford a macanic to install it. Without this video my family may have no car. God bless you.
You got this! 💪
Hey they only have a vtec d17 a2 is that ok in my 2002 honda civic lx? As I currently pulled the other and am having it delivered Tomorrow and will pay upon delivery.
I have the d17 a1 american w auto trans
@@user-zc5mc4yw7k yes. There are a few differences but it will work. You will just leave the 2 vtec connection without anything connected to them. The oil pan on the a2 is aluminum, the a1 is steel. The support bracket for the transmission at the bottom is different because of that. Therefore just run without a trans support or get one from a a2.
OK Tommarow is d day :) I'll let you know how she goes :)
With your remove and install Honda videos, I was followed your detailed steps and did the same for a 2003 Honda Civic LX EM2 motor. I am going to start the car this weekend. You make a great teacher because you teach with simplicity and tell what to do. I was a self-employed mechanic in the 90s and built a muscle car for racing. With your informative videos, I got back into the business fixing only Hondas, but just for my sons for now.
Thanks again.
Awesome, I'm glad it was useful to you
I am going to be in the process of swapping out my d17a1 in my 2002 honda civic dx. these are the kind of videos youtube was created for. Proud of you!
Thank you, I appreciate it
Thank you very much! Both videos helped a tremendous amount. We definitely ran into a couple more obstacles taking it from the top in an EX / Standard car, but it was do-able.
That abs module definitely makes it a bit more interesting
Yup. Bout 2 swap out my d17a1 also. I super ready now. 2003 civic
This is so useful, THANK YOU ,we all appreciate your job 👍
I watched your removal video and this video. Both have helped make this swap a lot easier. Thanks for taking twice the amount of time to do the job to make them.
Thank you, I'm glad they helped you!
Appreciate you taking the extra time for the video.
I am replacing the same motor for a 2003 Honda Civic LX . Thanks for the video
Awesome! I actually just replaced the engine in a 2001 yesterday
Thanks for your help man did have in a d17 a2 😮make a change to d17 a1 bossy it couldn't rev out thanks again for your help it ok know
Great Job! And thank you for taking the extra time while working to record the vid (I know your pain!) Our Son's 05 Civic lunched the 1.7, and despite dealing with engine swaps/rebuilds, etc with RWD cars and trucks I've never attempted anything like this. And I probably wouldn't while lacking the confidence and insight provided by your video. Thanks again for effort and sharing the experience.
Glad to hear!
Thank you so much. I just pulled out the motor on my 05 civic. I was just watching ur videos. and tomorrow ill install them
Good luck!
Got my old motor out with the last video and am going to start putting the new one in today! I'll come back and update when the car runs and drives!
Great job got a lot of info! I messed up the thread on the cylinder block for the oil pressure sensor and now I'm doing a over haul and this video gave me the courage to tackle the job thanks again.
Awesome man!
Ima watch this on my break everyday till I get it right ! ..thanks man seriously
Hopefully it'll help you
My first solo swap.
This video is bad ass.
I made cash 🤑 thanks.
Keep posting
Very much appreciated seeing this video! I gotta do this soon with my 2002. Looks alot easier than I thought.
You can do it!
im doing everything you just done right now for my 2002 honda civic ex
Nice! Best of luck
@@hondaresource thanks
You helped me so much with that Jdm vtec sensor tip. I kept hitting 4,000 and rev limited 😂 I knew it was the vtec not engaging and saw the extra plug but wasn’t sure where it went till I watched this. Also the cruise control hookup 👍🏼.
Huge super thanks! Higher compression and vtec woohoo! Rocket ship ex
Awesome, I'm glad you found it useful!
Thanks for the info didn’t think the D17A1 swap was that easy. Appreciate the video
Yeah man
First off thanks for the great vids and know its a lot of time invested in doing so.
Thank you, you are correct!
Thank you so much I was able to install a Japan engine to my EX and thanks to your videos I was able to accomplish it, but I do want to say there is two brackets that are mounted on the tranny and then bolt on to the oil pan but for the Japan engine it does not have the holes to bolt on, it threw me off I had to look back at the original engine to compare but just thought I add this comment in case anyone else runs through this but again Thank you great videos.
Correct, the JDM engine has the steel oil pan like the d17a1. If you want the bracket, go get one from a d17a1 at the junkyard. It's a one piece design.
@@hondaresource is it necessary ? Or is it okay to leave it that way
@@renecast5050 you can leave it, it'll be fine
Amazing Job! And great explanation throughout the video!
Thank you
Looks like you know what you are doing, thanks
I've done 1 or 50 hahahaha
Great job 👏
Only thing I found difficult that wasn't explained is when I was swapping for the vtec sensor the pipe that runs around the side on the JDM motors is bent upwards. If you're really careful the sensor will plug right in. I'm curious if the heat is going to make the cables or sensor brittle over time. Seems like the American version with the sense the pip slopes down more than the JDM version. Curios if I should have just swapped it out as well. TOO LATE NOW lol Thanks for this. It is the best step by step on pulling and installing I have found on here. I'll be doing a 99 accord soon as well hoping it's just as easy.
This guy deserves more subs. 👍
Thank you man!
I like the video 😁. Thank you!!
Hope it helps you
Thank you, learn some new things, keep the videos coming, I'd watch.
Thank you bro
Nice job made my life easy after I blew my motor in my 2004 civic.
Awesome! You're a great teacher! thank you!
I hope it helps you!
Excellent video! Thank you very much!
Hope it helps you 🤟
Great video, keep up the good work 💯
Thank you
I have an engine of the same model but my flexible plate does not seal well, it stays separated and I don't know why. Do you know the possible reasons why it stays so separated and does not seal with the 8 screws?
I have japanese civic, it does not have vtec pressure sensor as u said. I have egr valve but has no wiring connection. There is no harness / connector near ignition wiring. I studied its drawing and wires do go out from ecu pins. But i dont have an error code. I dont understand behind the scene as i bought the car recently.
Without egr, sometimes it pings. And i observed that it pings when it is warm out there.
Awesome video
How do I stop the transmission from bindup when I tighten the bell housing to the engine.
Do have a video about the water pump connecting pipe? I had to swap a connecting pipe from a new motor. There is not too many videos on the subject and they are very good. THANKS
I dont, I'm sorry.
Thank you please do more
I try to film most of the jobs that come through the shop
I'm trying to find a tutorial video on whats what about this kind of engine
I need you to do mine when that day comes they don’t last forever
I'd be glad to
Also id pulled the 3-4 plugs off the trans an the 3 plugs on pcm an pulled harness with engine.. All kinda ways to do it no way is wrong if it works 😁
i was able to swap everything over but the car won’t start it just cranks. only starts with started fluid and would shut off once i stop spraying starter fluid. has new coils and spark plugs. fuel pump primes. also misfiring all cylinders. compression is good. any idea ? thank you -
How’s it going? I will be swapping the motor off a 2002 Civic LX 1.7 with a JDM D17A will there be any issues with the ECU being that I believe the LX has no v-tech and the JDM does. Thanks in advance.
It'll work, but you just won't have vtec
@@hondaresource thank you
ok i found my issue ok you explain on @4mins you said if u had a d17a in there at first than i blew the engine an i bought a d17a thinking they where the same than i had friend replace the motor an than i didn't an hard time smogging it back in like 2018 idk how i got it smogged b4 with the egr not plugged in i do believe he never installed the clip or he used my d17a1 harnesses an make it work also i passed smogged 2 years ago but i got a visual look few days ago said i had codes that weren't matching or something but he passed me 2 years ago an now i went back same engine nothing new he said "he didnt notice the egr valuve he told me to romove it or cap it an come back but if was able get this normal part would that better than capping or do i need buy a new d17a1 to pass smog confused neve had the issue b4 only was told the first time was the egr valve by 1 other person 1 time after i had the engine put in its been thru 2 smog since than all passed even with the egr unplugged need get my car smogged an regs before the 22nd help please
i live in ca too btw do law on the egr are diff i think
Have a question for an issue I ran intoning my daughters civic the cooling fan sensor or switch the plug that goes to it does not lock to where you have to push the little pin go release, The sensor was bad so I had a brand new sensor I’m thinking there was something jammed in the plug or something so I bought a new plug as well and it still would not connect together so that it would latch on, is this normal or Have you ran into this before?
What do I have to do to get the Canadian built bmxa transmission to work properly with a jdm d17a? Or is that not an option? I recently swapped a jdm d17a vtec engine into my 2005 civic lx non vtec . Tried to get it to work with bmxa transmission and it only worked for a short amount of time. Currently it’s not driveable . Makes a horrible winding sound in park neutral and reverse. Drive D3 and D2 seem to be working fine. Also it won’t even go in reverse the winding sound gets louder when you hit the gas in reverse. What are the options to get my car running properly again I’m desperate any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
All I did was change the engine plate to the vtec and told everyone that’s it’s hits
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All the important tips for this swap! Mine has been running so well. Jdm compression plus American vtec rocks! Does a 6 speed transmission exist that would fit my 04 D17 civic ex?
What if you are putting a d17a1 into a vtec A2 car.. ?? I did a opps an ended up getting a A1 engine. An noticed a year later when i installed it. Anyway to bypass vtec the car has bad low end power.
Great video man. Would like to pick your brain since you seem to have done many of these. I have an 05 d17a1 that blew. I ordered a used engine that must have been an 01-03 d17a1. The engine I ordered doesn't have the egr valve. We are going to swap the water outlet and gasket from the old motor onto the ordered one. Bit when we took the water outlet and gasket off of the ordered one, there was oil in the egr port. Do you know how that would have happened? Would we need to do anything to that port before installing the new gasket, water outlet, and egr valve? Thanks for your time in making the video and answering questions. You are appreciated for sure.
You also have to swap the intake manifold and manifold gasket to EGR style
@hondaresource will the ordered manifold itself not work? We figure out we need to replace the gasket. But it seems like we need the whole manifold swapped over from this comment. Is that the case?
@hondaresource took the intakes off of both engines. The Gaskets are different but the intakes are the same. In case anyone ever runs into this issue again. The easiest way to do it, however, is to just take the intake/water outlet/egr all off of the old engine together. 2 less parts to handle, and 2 less Gaskets to mess with.
@@jessemoore510 I knew for sure that the gasket was different, but I wasn't 100% on if the intake was different. Thanks for clarifying
So how we do the bottom
Replacing my 2002 Honda LX D17A1 on monday because before I bought the car the lady I bought it from hot her timing belt tensioner replaced and the mechanic replaced the tensioner bolt (I assume he lost it). With a grade 8 non flanged bolt. It ended up snapping in the block and ruining my cylinder 4 piston and valves. So annoying
ouch! best of luck with the replacement!
doing a jdm d17a swap on my 2003 d17a2, any tips besides the throttle body and the vtec pressure sensor?
Use the USDM throttle body and on the VTec solenoid remove the plug where the pressure sensor is supposed to go and screw in your USDM pressure sensor
Appreciate your efforts and time, subscribed! Also you mention about clockwise and counterclockwise. When I put in those 8 bolts back into the disk plate I was turning the disk plate counterclockwise, my timing should still be fine correct? I did not use crank pulley bolt or had the crank pull on the block. And do you have videos of more in depth on the install? After I exchange the throttle body and the sensor you said I will need to out everything back which I forgot where what hose goes where?
There is a video removing everything, I think that video may show more of the actual parts. It's probably fine. Just pull the valve cover and check timing
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Does anybody know if I can use a JDM D17a block with a d17a1 non vtec head?
Hey I got a question regarding that same d17a1 motor I got a code stating that the rocker arm actuator was stuck open but can’t seem to find it where would it be located on the engine? Please help.
That's a vtec code. Do you have a vtec ecu in it
Thanks for the videos- great teaching tool- I swapped a JDM V-tec into a non-v-tec car. 2005 lx civic. I did connect the v-tec - would that cause a check engine light- just wondering- please let me know- thanks
there shouldnt be any connectors on your LX harness to connect to the vtec. You can leave it disconnected, it won't cause any CEL if you are still utilizing your original ECU
Hey I have questions how did you connect the v-tech sensor I have D17A engine going into a LX with a non v-tech harness can I leave it unplugged?? Thanks in advance
Got a bad cylinder on my 01 swapping a d17a2 into my 01 lx not vtec video was helpful thank you 👏🏽 anything else I should get when doing the vtec Into non vtec?
You can get the VTec computer and wire in VTec if you'd like
So I did a timing belt replacement and found a part I think I left out.
Can you tell me where the timing belt thrust plate goes?
send me a pic of it. either boosted_92_eg_hatch on IG or email phllip@thehondaresource.com
Greetings from Pakistan. I have a 2005 civic with a factory d16w9 v-tec engine but wanted to replace it with a jdm motor d17a since the original motor has a blown head gasket and a warped head and overhaul is 2x the cost of having it replaced. Question: is it a bolt on swap? Can I use my old ecu or do I need to have the d17a ecu? I've read and heard that all 7th gen civics have interchangeable motor just need appropriate wiring is that true?
I have no idea man. We didn't have a d16w9 here. Does it look the same?
So...I bought this '02 Civic with a blown D17A1 motor.
I went to the junkyard and bought a nice looking D17A from a wrecked Civic.
Did the motor swap and everything turned out okay.
Took it for a test drive and the transmission quit working. It barely will pull when it's cool. But then slips all the way in a matter of seconds.
I could go buy another transmission but I'm worried that this transmission is okay and maybe I forgot to do something.
Or maybe there's something I didn't hook up right.
Do you have any idea what I could check?
These transmission are notorious for failure. I would look for another one
thanks the 2 vids really helped alot when i pulled out my d17a1 i relaced with a a2 vtec , is it just the engine harness and ecu to enable vtec ? and is there a diffrence between a coupe and sudan for the harness
Don't replace the harness. Just run the 2 wires for the VTEC to the ecu.
thank for the info will do @@hondaresource
thx it was a lot easier to run the 2 wires and re solder the eprom to the new ecu @@hondaresource
Man I gotta do this with mine. D17a1 having trouble finding a non vtec d17 anywhere online.
It's straight forward to make the changeover
New subscriber here bc I hv the same 7thgen 1.7l civic sedan 5speed manual that might needs new engine. It got ticking sound when running think its the valves and having starting issues. Try to used rislone engine treatment today see what happens.
My man so if I have a 05 civic non vtec and I want to add one with vtec what do I have to change??
Engine, ECU, a little wiring
hello your videos are excellent my husband wants to know where we can buy a lift with which you lift the cars we want one just like that you can help us thanks
It's a bendpak 6xp
Hey I recently swapped out my d17a1 for a D17A and am currently dealing with a crank no start. Used a spark tester and spark is present, have fuel on spark plugs, compression is good, fuel rail had fuel and pressure when i popped it off. Car cranks stong, battery is good, grounds are good, no immobilizer issues. Fuel pump primes. I cant pull any codes with my obd2 scanner (cheap $50 scanner). IM SO LOST PLZ HELP
There's something under the dash that can prevent that
Your vids gonna help I'm sure, is it easier to do engine/transmission together?
Manual do them together. Auto I do separate
Hey man. Awesome video!!! have a question. I have an '03 civic with a d17a1 that has a rod knock, on rod #1. Do you have a fix for that??? Or am I looking at getting another engine??? If that is the case, where can I get an engine??? They seem hard to find. Thanks...
Its cheaper to replace than it is to fix. car-part.com
Great work my man. I'm curious, is it even possible to install a d17 engine with the alternator already installed?
Possible, yes. Ideal, not really.
Ok... My D17A fired right up... But it was idling too high.
After a couple minutes... It dropped rpm, then immediately started surging.
Up,down, up, down, up down.
Any idea what I might need to do?
Perhaps a relearn?
Either a vacuum leak or iacv
@@hondaresource after further inspection... Vacuum hose below throttle body, next to firewall...I forgot to hook it.
Thanks
Is there anyway in only taking out the motor only i have a manual without taking out the transmisión
I'm not saying it's impossible but you'd spend more time fighting it than if you went ahead and pulled it all
Ok thank you so much , would I need to put support under the transmission if I were do it like that?
Curious what's your average time start to finish without time lapse lol
I could probably do it in 3 hours
Will the car run any different without the vtec or is it bad for the engine? Looking to do this on my 04 lx was gonna order the engine via eBay
it'll run just like a stock non vtec
do you know if the jdm engine flex plate or different then the usdm one? i put a jdm one in and i can’t seem to be able to put the torque converter back on. motor won’t spin as well
Flex plate is same, you just don't have it aligned properly
@@hondaresource is there any way i can contact you and send you some pictures. the flex plates look a little different
Where are you located? How can I get more information on contacting you to have engine swapped out in car
I'm in Alabama. phillip@thehondaresource.com
Hey man I did a jdm swap a engine and transmission on my 2005 Honda civic lx and there’s delayed shifting and all the solenoids are brand new..would I have to get a jdm ecu and program it or can I just reprogram the same one I got in the car now
The shifter assembly and ECU are different on the jdm car. I don't ever recommend using a jdm Auto transmission
Hey another question would me using the bmxa oem auto trans on the jdm engine would it give me any issues or it work with no shifting issues ??
@@woowilly1010 should work fine.
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I paid a guy to replace a d17a1 engine in a 2004 civic lx non vtec....he found the engine for me and didn't tell me it wasn't an exact replacement, turns out he put a d17z1 (I think it's an australia engine???) in it and the problem now is I have a p0401 code about an EGR air flow insufficiency issue. when I asked him about the EGR he said that he had to take the one off the old engine and put it on this engine because it was different.... Is there a way to fix this so I can pass the smog?
The non egr intake manifold is different. Make sure you have the egr intake manifold
I did this same swap and now having an issue with the cooling fans not coming on. Replaced thermostat. Cooling fan sensor. Engine temp sensor, checked all relays, flushed and bleed radiator and still no luck. What could be the issue?
Are you 100% sure the fans are good
@@hondaresource yes. I can turn them on manually if I bypass the fan sensor with a jumper wire.
@@josephhillyerd1910 is it over heating?
@2:43 so the pressure sensor has to be plugged in? What about that plug above it with the light blue wire and the sensor under the black plastic intake manifold? Or does that blue cord plug connects to the pressure sensor? I appreciate your help.
If you have a vtec car both of them should be plugged up. But, if you are installing a vtec engine and a non-vtec car it is not necessary to hook them up
@@hondaresource thank you because I am installing a vtec engine d17a1 and was stressing that I couldn’t find the plug for the pressure sensor. I am installing it on a non-vtec car (2005 Honda Civic LX) so I should be fine correct? Thank you for your help
@@TheMrFlyBoy18 yes, if you are installing a vtec engine into a non vtec car, you can just leave the vtec disconnected.
@@hondaresource Thank you for your help I’ll let you know how it goes haha
It works well! Fired it up and the Honda is running. The engine shakes a little bit while idling but no signs of codes or anything leaking so I assume thats how it is. Maybe I should tighten more the bolts from the transmission to the engine but thank you for your input tit really helped me get my Honda back :) @The Honda Resource
Did u use the same harness that was from the the original engine
Yes
I need to change my engine I seen one but it's v tech my original engine is non v tech I was wondering if I block off v tech and use the non VTEC ECU and harness will that work can't find other non VTEC engine
Can you put a stick shift jdm into a automatic shell body 2005 honda civic
Yes, you just need to changed the ecu, add the shifter, add the clutch pedal, and do a little wiring
Great video. What's the torque on the bolts to the flexplate there ?
9 ft/lb although I just always do it like shown.
@@hondaresource thanks again
Hey man I have a super important question… how much did you charge your customer for this job and how much was the jdm engine?
I don't remember
Can u still be driving it daily with out the extended piece off the air box's?
They do. This was a customers car. The air is still filtered so it's fine
Can i put a 1.7 liter vtec head on my 1.7 liter non vtec block its an 05 civic dx coupe
Yes. Bolts right on.
How much will you charge to remove and replace engine in 05 civic lx
$750 plus fluids.
I got a 02 Honda Civic LX non vitec, can swap with vtec? It seems like those are the only ones available.
Yes. you can swap it right in, it just won't have vtec. If you want the vtec to engage, you will have to run a couple wires to the ecu from the vtec solenoid and change to a vtec ecu.
What a relief! Thank you so much you are a life saver.
Quick question, going from d17a1 to the d17a. What do i need to do to bypass the vtec for the time being, till i get the vtec ecu for the car? I know exhaust and intake changes to my usdm. Anything else
no need to bypass anything. Just leave the vtec unplugged and run it with your original ecu
@@hondaresource ok perfect. Will there be any changes when i do put a vtec ecu to it?
@@1rcracer just have to add a couple wires for vtec and have the new ECU programmed to your key
@@hondaresource even for manual windows and locks?
@@1rcracer that has nothing to do with the engine computer
Where u get the d17a1 engine?
I usually just check car-part.com
i got someone selling a 2004 honda civic ex for $1000. i talked him down to 500-600. he claims its a bad head gasket. what do u think about this deal? i wanna buy the car just to start working on a car thats my own. that kind of thinking has gotten into bad deals before. id like to know what u thinkn of the price. its all there motor too
These are notorious for heat gasket failure
@@hondaresource what do u think about the price? Is this a buy and flip? Or should i say prayers and walk away like it the devil?
@@probong2053 5-600 is fair
Also will the bolt right up to my stock transmission?
Yes
@@hondaresource kinda off topic but any idea oh why the red dot next to “park” stays on every gear except for my reverse?
Coming from the dash next to speed odometer
So, I just need the short block; Does anyone know if I can use a Vtec short block for my NON-Vtec 2004 Civic LX 1.7 automatic ? THANK YOU!
I've never put the non vtec head on the vtec short block. I've put the vtec head on the non vtec short block.
You can put the complete vtec engine in and just leave vtec disconnected. It'll run fine.
@@hondaresource Really? Slight modifications?
@@juliebarnes6208 no modifications either way
I have a 2005 Honda Civic with a d17a2
That blew a rod can I put a D17a1
You can, but you will need to change the ecu to a non vtec so that it won't be in limp mode due to not having vtec
How long did the process take entirely?
I've done them in 4-5 hours, start to finish.
Didn't show the difference in the brackets on the oil pan?
You're right, I didn't have both to compare. The JDM d17a uses the same bracket as the usdm d17a1 since they both share steel oil pans. The d17a2 is a different design that connects to the aluminum oil pan.
@@hondaresource So is it ok without the bracket?
@@hardhatcat100 yes. I've had several come through the shop without them
Good morning.
I'd like to install a non vtec motor in replacement of a vtec how much trouble am I looking at getting the car running ??
It'll run no problem, however it will be in limp mode due to lack of vtec system. If you want to be 100% get a non vtec ecu for you year, then have your key programmed to it.
@@hondaresource In limp mode will the car do 60mph 100 km on highway. It's a work car so I don't really car about limp mode.
Also the non vtec motor is from 2001 going into 2005. Will I need the 2001 exhaust manifold?
@@jonwurster1275 just use your original
@@hondaresource The original 2005 exhaust manifold will fit the 2001 non vtec