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In sweden, mounted on all-terrain vehicles, the ball joint was attached to a hydralic lift. You would drive up behind a hill, lift the gun over the crest so that only the barrel was visible to the enemy, and fire. After two shots (a few seconds), you would lower the gun, and drive away to your next fireing position.
@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 But have more then dubbel the distance as a carl gustav. clearly ain't good in all enviroment and harder to use but probebly still very useful
@@TheArmourersBench That wasn't "OK", it was spot on, hardly distinguishable from a native speaker. Compared to so many other channels here on CZcams, that is a quite remarkable feat! Side note, the correct abbreviation is "pvpj-1110".
Technically it's a Recoilless "gun" as it's smoothbore but that's a nitpick. This has exceptionally high velocity for a recoilless weapon, which typically has a velocity of 400-500m/s this shoots a projectile at 600-700m/s. Might be why it's still in use, as with that velocity it has much flatter trajectory more like a rifle bullet.
A rumour says that the Swedes held a demonstration in Estonia and fired the 1110 in a courtyard, EVERY window shattered! The Estonian officers were absolutely delighted and wanted every gun they could get!😅
The British army had a similar thing I don't know if they were ever used in action but I believe the feeling was the back blast was so obvious it was virtually a suicide weapon after two rounds.
@@freebeerfordworkers I’d wonder if the BA took any to the Falklands, I haven’t read any accounts but I guess it was a cheap and light way of sending a 90mm HE at your enemies light armour or fortified positions. We used them as a company support weapon
@@freebeerfordworkers that was WOMBAT it was 120mm calibre, got replaced by Milan except Berlin Brigade because minimum operating distance for Milan was nuts for there. Wombat had itself replaced MOBAT, CONBAT and BAT all in same calibre, just got lighter and lighter. Dinky made a lovely model of Mobat that you might be lucky to find,
@@freebeerfordworkers Doctrine states about a couple rounds should be fired before relocating. They would be generally on hills, with only the gun visible
I did my service in -85 in a anti tank brigade with pv1110 on volvo jeeps. We used mainly shoot and scot tactics together with tank mines to bog them down and then call on artillery to do their thing. We used to think the exercises were silly with very little to do with reality but I'm starting to think we were wrong since it appears to work well in the Ukraine. But then we didn't have any drones, only human eyes to do the scouting so I just don't know.
Long ago in Canadian military our instructor told us of jeep mounted recoiless rifle (USA made). He said on a windy day the gun would wiggle with the jeeps suspension and accuracy was limited to about 250 meters.
Did that gun use the same kind of hanging ball mount that is shown in the video? As i remember very little of such movement was transferred to the PV1110, inertia you know.
As far as I've seen shoot and scoot is what basically everyone is trained to do with recoileless guns for antitank work.. US was training that way with them on jeeps 70 years ago.
The Kpist m45B (Swedish-K) was my service gun during my conscription as the AK5 with a folding stock wasn’t yet in service and we needed a compact weapon. Loved the gun, it never failed me and was so easy to maintain. I later had the AK4 and even if it’s a heavier hitter and have a longer range, it’s much more bulkier and not as easy to field strip.
@@Hiznogood I have a friend who found a swedish K in his now deceased granpas attic and since i dont trust the swedish government to not just take it and destroy it i told him to hide it when he asked me what to do. Kinda sad to render something historical useless. Now if someone that shouldnt is reading; Everything i just said was fiction and should not be taken seriously, As a good and upstanding citizen of the kingdom i would never break any law of said kingdom, nor advice others to do so :)
@@BeeTriggerBee Alot of Swedish ks eneded up in civilian use in Sweden and even in the USA. We have one in our club. Sadly we are only allowed to have one round loaded in the magazine at a time. We have never fired more than one, I promise ;) I hope AK5s will have the same fate that they end up in civilian use. I know alot of Americans would love to get their hands on AK5s, they are almost more sought after than FN FNCs
Did my service in 79-80 whit pv1110 and the mighty litte Karl-Gustaf 8.4mm GRG in a antitank pluton (PV-Pluton), amazing guns both of them, easy to use easy to handle and very strong on target. We did some prototype testing whit bandvagon whit pv1110 mounted on front vagon...Nice to see Pv1100 in back in action.
Might sound pwradoxical, but Sweden that during the 1990s was not a NATO member nation donated a lot of military equipment to Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia in order for them to become members of NATO
If the ammunition is still reliable this is a very useful weapon. It looks like it could be towed by an ATV, making a small, highly maneuverable and easy to hide ambush weapon.
Hehe, I did my military service on the PV1110. :-) Quite a boom when you pulled the trigger. The trajectory was surprisingly straight and it was very obvious on a night shoot. It had about the same muzzle velocity as the AK4 7.62mm.
@@lillkloniis Since i live in Skåne/Scania (it does have a Latin name ) i will accept that you are trying to teach me how to pronounce Swedish, I was pointing out that i find it amusing when foreigners pronounce things .
@@datadavis you swede's always had it right with recoilless weapons. it all started with the 20mm pansarvärnsgevär m/42. This led to the famous, amazing, beautifull, OG GOAT Carl Gustaf 84mm Recoilless rifle that everyone knows
I was 5years in the north Swedish army ranger battalion beginning in 2011. Even though we mostly conducted recons and skirmishes this would still have been a marvelous addition to our more heavy side. Shame we gave most of them away to the baltics. But still glad to see them being used in the fight for Europe… imagine modern rounds developed for this rifle🥹
And yeah… Ukraine in mind. Shoot and scoot over trenches every day. Just more efficient. Terrain gains is probably more effective in the political realm but for winning the war being mobile and committed to the end goal is more effective in the end. “See Korea, vietnam, Afghanistan. Best regards from 🇸🇪
It seems at first the "aid" in terms of weapons some countries could send fast was such that was about to be replaced. Those could be sent without much political discussions since the cost wasnt much to debate. We see now later in the war that bit by bit newer and more sophsticated waepons have turned. Up. However, considering this old guy can penetrate 800 mm armour... that is a heck of a nasty surprise to most vehicles in use even today. And 6 rounds per minute, they can knock out perhaps 2 or 3 vehicles in a column before they have to reposition.
Only if there are enough of them to completely prevent return fire, because this thing has a 90m long and 90° backblast cone that makes it very obvious where it's firing from the instant the gunner squeeses the main trigger after getting a hit with the spotting gun on top.
@@SonsOfLorgar Not as easy as you think for the enemy to locate and return accurate fire on a target some 500m away. Remember, we are talking about 30sek here. From all is well to everyone is knocked out. This is not an easy task for the enemy during an ambush, especially from inside a vehicle designed in the 70's.
The "odd visual effect" in the video of a soldier firing one of these looks a lot like the distortions when you "AI upscale" these low res videos you get on Twitter/Telegram. Another supporting piece of evidence is the slow motion - for whatever reason, the default seems to be to slow the frame rate down when upscaling.
Some extra comments from Latvia and specifically about local experience with Pvpj1110 Three versions of this gun mounting exist - hand moved wheeled one(show in video), cabinless mobility jeep mounted one(forgot the exact model of vehicle from Swedish army) and one mounted on cabinless bv206 tracked vehicle. Latvia has and operated in some limited capacity all three variants(although all are being retired, with the basic non-mounted version not seen in use for decade). While the pvpj1110 mounted on jeep or bandwagon chassis are "mobile" to some degree, in our opinion, the wheel carriage variant is pretty bad and hated by units, because it's very heavy(infantry is supposed to assemble it from parts and move around with hands) and using it is impractical. It's more of single shot/suicide weapon, rather than one used continuously to harass or destroy enemy vehicles/positions, because once you have fired, there is no fast disengagement option with such heavy and tedious to move-around gun. It's either you leave the gun in the position and gtfo or get shot at by other vehicles that were not destroyed and die. While all aid helps Ukraine, I tend to think this is more of "useless leftover weapon donation" than an actual up-to date weapon.
Thank you for sharing those hands on thoughts. No evidence yet of vehicle mounted versions being in Ukraine but they may turn up. The weight issue you mention may explain why the first one to appear was captured when abandoned at a Ukrainian position. I'm sure they'll find their uses over there but as you say vehicle mounting would be more useful/versatile.
Seems to mirror Swedish experience with the gun. On the wheeled infantry mount it's just comically unwieldy; it's over four meters long and too heavy to really transport in any sort of terrain with manpower alone. On that mount it's almost exclusively useful for ambushes, and as you say if you don't immediately win you'll probably have to leave it behind. The point of having it was that it had a lot longer effective range than the Carl Gustav did, and you really want to use that range to make it somewhat less suicidal. It was slightly less impractical in the Swedish far north in winter, because in those conditions you'd take the wheels off and put it on a sled that rangers on skis could tow around. It was still really long and awkward but at least it was somewhat easier to manhandle. The vehicle mounted version is a lot less impractical but of course it's less effective than modern ATGM's and the like. Still, even the older HEAT rounds for it are still pretty respectable even today, if you manage to hit. In the end it's a weapon system from the 1950's and it shows. The ammunition is also really unwieldy by the way, a single complete HEAT round is almost a meter long and weighs over 10 kg.
There are actually multiple vehicle carriers for the PvPjäs 1110: PvpjTgb 911 (open top variant of the Volvo L3314 with removable steel tube roll cage) PvpjTgb 1111 (canvas top variant of the Volvo C303) PvpjBv 2011 (canvas top rear cab variant of the Hägglunds Bv202) and Pvpv Bv 3011 (canvas top rear cab of the Hägglunds Bv 302)
This weapon was also in use by the Irish Army, a lot were purchased and were mostly used by training units and not for general use by units. They were great to watch firing .
Big Army pulled 106mm Recoilless Rifles out of preserved storage for use by FOBs in Afghanistan. Large diameter bore H.E.A.T. shaped charges still knock out 1960s era tanks and bunkers. And they are already paid for, the rounds just degrading in storage, might as well put them to use.
On the subject of the 1110 appearing in modern circumstances, one of these appeared on a promotional video covering the Milrem THeMIS UGV a few years back. Odd to pair a 1950s recoilless gun with an autonomous vehicle, but fun to see. I also know that one of the baltic countries recieved Pvpjtgb 1111s, a very capable Volvo light truck carrying the 1110 which acted as the anti-tank screen for swedish tank brigades during parts of the cold war. Now that'd really be something to see in Ukraine
@@renegrautstueck3468 It's really a disadvantage. A lack of unified logistics tends to wreak havoc with supply, and the only saving grace for Ukraine is that the battlefield has been so static. In a more mobile situation you'd see weapons abandoned left and right because they ended up as dead weight due to lack of ammunition/spare parts.
@@TheArmourersBench I must admit that most nations recoiless rifles have had a much longer service life than the WOMBAT as they do more than just one job. Removing the Gustav from British service was a mistake as it would do more than just fire HEAT rounds.
@@alecbowman2548 About midway through Afghanistan it was asked whether there were any WOMBATS left at Donnington as it might have been a cheaper option for knocking holes in compound walls than throwing a Javelin at them. Sadly they'd all long since been disposed of.
@@stamfordly6463 Ours were replaced by MILAN in around ‘83 or ‘84. We expended stacks of Practice rounds. It was all time expired and we were using up as much as we could.
As a class of weapons, recoilless rifles are still potent in the right hands. That one is comparable with the old Wombat when in British service and is not as general purpose as the Charlie G being primarily antitank. . But again that depends on the knowledge and bravery of the user. I know which one I'd rather have. I love the Charlie G. M2, M3 and M4. There are so many different types of round for the Charlie G 84mm that I've lost track. HE, AP, with EFP, Illumination, smoke, antipersonnel programable airburst etc. I imagine if asked, the Swedish manufacturers could adapt most of the above for the PV-1110. But why bother, just go for the 84mm M4.
Only reason I see for retiring it is that it required quite a bit of manual labor to handle. Time is of the essence when it comes to ready to fire and withdraw. More modern handheld RPGs and the Swedish Combat Vehicle 90 made this weapon less needed. This doesn't mean that it's a bad weapon, just that it was deemed unnecessary in order to keep down number of weapon variants in the Swedish defense.
@@ehsnils for a small budget, logistics is critical. Okay, it's still really important for big budgets, but small budgets are even more critical for streamlined logistics.
WOMBAT was rifled and fired a HESH "High explosive squash head" squash head but it is indeed comparable. HEAT is degraded by rifling spin as its spreads the jet while HESH needs it to spread the explosive. In theory rifling is more accurate as fin stabilized weapons don't 'weather cock'.
I love seeing some of these old and sometimes wacky Cold War weapons being used . Obviously it’s not going to take out a T-90 frontally like a javelin can but even old AT guns can be extremely useful in defensive positions to strike any of Russians light armor APCs or the flanks of tanks. And since Ukraine is mostly on the defensive theses wepons are actually very useful
Interesting carriage mount. In a fight for my life/country any gun is better than no gun!. Cos everybody is their own Defender, the only way stop a baddie with a gun is by a goodie with a gun. It applies both in civil self defence and war self defence.
2:32 The odd visual effect looks a lot like the product of video stabilisation/upscaling filters that come with some smartphones that are sometimes intended to smooth out shaky video footage taken in situations such as walking or running with the phone, they might've activated it by accident or forgotten to disable it, it causes a lot of warping and blurring in some situations as it tries to resolve a smoothed image from data taken from multiple frames of the video which could be quite different.
@@TheArmourersBench where the person was filming from they probably go hit by quite a lot of the concussion wave when the weapon was fired, which would account for the video being shaky at that point!
I think these have great use in ambush. If you hid several teams sighted into a turn in the road, and your ambush could have enough intensity that the enemy had no way to spot and target you, imagine the melee you could inflict? Drones, artillery, especially artillery dropping AT mines, and these. I can guess the teams still have huge risk given the massive signature but if the enemy stress out and pop smoke the teams would be safe.
A small pickup truck can easily tow the gun. I am curious if a quadbike/atv can also tow it. Set up just inside a woodline, fire a few rounds, then drive deeper into the woods, ideally with a trail nearby.
I love how it instinctively points like a rifle, instead of the more rigid mounts that require moving the whole system for coarse aiming changes. Sweden makes scary AT systems! I myself have experience with good ol' Charlie G, another Bofors system.
Surprised that the Ukrainians haven't put this on the Toyota Hi-Lux(?) (in America, we call them the Tacoma) pick-up trucks. It would seem to be a good platform pairing.
Considering thats sort of how they where officially fielded by Sweden during the cold war, on stripped down soft skin vehicles it would fit pretty well (ok they were forward facing).
@@TheArmourersBench yeah we have plenty of TOW sitting in the warehouses I'm surprised those didn't go first...the russians gain nothing by copying those. a captured javelin would be an intel goldmine for them.
@@warhorse03826 You could hand the Russians the drawings to Javelin and they would have zero chance of reverse engineering them. Twenty years of Putin has turned Russia into rather backward country with very little tech development. They simply can't produce the chips needed for modern defence projects. They will certainly have captured examples of Javelin but it will be more like that scene in 2001 where the proto-humans discover the monolith than the golden era of the Soviet Union when they genuinely had scientific wizards on the payroll.
@@zoiders so they hand it to the chinese or iran and they reverse-engineer it. same difference. iran has a long history of reverse-engineering american tech.
This is a surprisingly high velocity round for a recoilless rifle, 700m/s(!), so it's basically already got the same ballistics as the 7.62nato cartridge.
Just because weaponry is old, doesnt mean its obsolete. when you look at it, old weapons from the cold war, fulfill their intendet purpose right know, because the opposite side still has that old soviet gear, it was developed against
Excellent video end there might be some left over SPG-9s in Former East Germany where it was called Schwere Panzerbüchse SPG-9D This was used by the East German army transport police Special units People's Police. Germany can just give them to Ukraine if they still have them in warehouses
I am fascinated by these recoilless artillery pieces because they might be the answer for large scale deployment of direct fire anti-armor weapons. Just like Javelin doesn't replace TOW. I'm not sure TOW truly replaced the M40. Maybe SACLOS missiles and electronic sights will get progressively cheaper until they can be mass produced, but right now they seem too expensive for truly large scale warfare. Even the US doesn't have enough TOW launchers to cover just 1,000 km of frontline.
Sorry for knit picking. I guess this will come up over and over in the comments but I am too lazy to read through them. This is not a rifle it is smooth bore. In Swedish terminology it is defined as PVPJ (PansarVärnsPJäs,) literal translation "anti-tank piece" (piece as in an artillery piece) so "recoilless gun"or "recoilless piece" is more accurate description, Even the Carl Gustaf is mislabeled rifle since it has a caliber above 25mm (sometimes defined as 20mm) even though it at least is rifled. But it would be ridiculous to go around and call it a recoilless howitzer. :)
@@TheArmourersBench It's a change in the refraction index of the air due to the increased pressure/density. The compressed air of the shock wave is creating a lens.
I always find accurately presented well-reasoned videos entertaining and informative. You avoid the Russian fear the blah blah blah. This weapon seems useful against bunkers fortified positions I'm sure Ukraine was glad to have them. The problem with everybody giving Ukraine different weapons is in the logistics. Can they get enough ammunition into the field for all these different varieties of weapons to make them effective?
As a swede I have mixed feelings. Nice that the stuff came to good use of course, but I definitely hope it was only used in the early stages of the war, and they started to use our Carl Gustav, and the NLAW's (joint venture between BAE Systems and SAAB) instead. :-) Love from Sweden.
The 90mm rounds for the Pv1110 have twice the penetration of the 120mm BAT rounds. The WOMBAT was heavier and higher profile. The Pv1110 outclasses is totally.
@@barrygregory8177 im not suggesting instead of but in addition to, im fully aware of the efficacy of the bofors system. The wombat was a good weapon, still would be if used correctly.
I'm wondering if there is not a future for such weapons because if the Ukraine war has shown one thing it is how fast sophisticated munitions run out. A modernized version would have the following. 1 Electronic Stereoscopic Range Finder (laser as a supplement). 2 Gyroscopic Lead Computing Gun Sight with lock on capability. 3 Guided Shock Hardened Munition using say beam riding or command line of sight which only intervenes in the terminal phases of the flight. 4 Self homing ammunition Being able to fire dumb ammunition is key as such a device could engage accurately a moving target to at least 1km.
Hahah thank you, I consulted a friend on the proper pronunciation (I've tripped over a few in videos over the years but no excuse this time) thanks for watching!
Faster repeat shots on target without having to significantly relay the gun. The guns are also much lighter because they don't have to withstand the same stresses of firing or have a heavy recouperator to soak up the recoil of the gun. Thanks for watching.
Yes and no. Sweden had a recoilless rifle during WW2. The Carl Gustaf m42. This was a recoilless rifle that fired a solid bullet, so it was a hybrid between the pre/early war Anti-tank rifles and the late/post war missile launcers. But a recoilless rifle is not a rocket launcher, even if it fires a HEAT- round like the later Carl Gustaf AT-weapons. It is it's own type of weapon. The type of warhead it fires has a different evolution. HEAT-type warheads were predominant in most portable AT systems in the post-war era.
@@JH-lo9ut would disagree. HEAT came on towards the end of WWII. Germans had HEAT rounds, but it’s HEAT-FS which made them more effective. However even then, HEAT-FS was not as effective due to the low caliber of guns below 100mm. The combination of high caliber RR rifle and HEAT allowed for tiny vehicles like Italian R3 to possess 100+mm caliber RR with very powerful HEAT grenade rounds. It’s the ease of logistics RR brought. You can now install a 100+mm gun on the back of the pickup truck to fight against tanks and that’s a major upgrade.
If it shoots and hurts what it hits, why not use it? These clearly work well, and in modern conflicts will be great against light tanks, transports, emplacements, or other medium-level targets. I love seeing older weapons still in use, and I hope more show up!
Fair few still subscribe to the concept. The US just selected a new one and India is in search of one. Others are looking at optionally manned light tanks.
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In sweden, mounted on all-terrain vehicles, the ball joint was attached to a hydralic lift. You would drive up behind a hill, lift the gun over the crest so that only the barrel was visible to the enemy, and fire. After two shots (a few seconds), you would lower the gun, and drive away to your next fireing position.
That is very cool!
Imagine if the weapon was given modern sights like DynaHawke, remote TV/Infrared Camera.
You can hear these firing from kms away, clearly louder than the very common Carl Gustav. You need to relocate immediately but still useful IMO
@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 But have more then dubbel the distance as a carl gustav. clearly ain't good in all enviroment and harder to use but probebly still very useful
Firing...
I am so happy with how well you pronounced ”Pansarvärnspjäs”.
Bravo!
Hahah, I am glad you approve! I don't always get my pronunciations right but I'm glad this one came out OK. Thank you for watching!
@@TheArmourersBench That wasn't "OK", it was spot on, hardly distinguishable from a native speaker. Compared to so many other channels here on CZcams, that is a quite remarkable feat!
Side note, the correct abbreviation is "pvpj-1110".
@johanmetreus1268 thank you!! I will remember that abbreviation. Thanks for watching!
@@TheArmourersBench and thank you for the excellent content :)
Technically it's a Recoilless "gun" as it's smoothbore but that's a nitpick. This has exceptionally high velocity for a recoilless weapon, which typically has a velocity of 400-500m/s this shoots a projectile at 600-700m/s. Might be why it's still in use, as with that velocity it has much flatter trajectory more like a rifle bullet.
You're quite right, my mistake!
A smooth bore is quite important for HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank)
@@Niklas.K95 Recoilless rifles use HEAT as the standard anti-tank warhead. Any other method would be impractical for a recoilless weapon.
@@herptek Not all of them. The WOMBAT used a HESH round.
I never thought about it being smooth bored. They were always called recoilless rifles. I wonder why?
A rumour says that the Swedes held a demonstration in Estonia and fired the 1110 in a courtyard, EVERY window shattered! The Estonian officers were absolutely delighted and wanted every gun they could get!😅
I did my service from 1978 to 1979. We had a PV- company. They had this gun mounted on a down-cabed Hagglunds bandwagon. It was so cool!
I was a loader to a PV1110 on one Haggglunds bandvagn, I was stationed in FALUN I13. it was -87 to -88.
We used them in the Irish army up until at least the late 80’s, we had some deployed with us in south Lebanon in 1988
The British army had a similar thing I don't know if they were ever used in action but I believe the feeling was the back blast was so obvious it was virtually a suicide weapon after two rounds.
@@freebeerfordworkers I’d wonder if the BA took any to the Falklands, I haven’t read any accounts but I guess it was a cheap and light way of sending a 90mm HE at your enemies light armour or fortified positions. We used them as a company support weapon
@@freebeerfordworkers that was WOMBAT it was 120mm calibre, got replaced by Milan except Berlin Brigade because minimum operating distance for Milan was nuts for there. Wombat had itself replaced MOBAT, CONBAT and BAT all in same calibre, just got lighter and lighter. Dinky made a lovely model of Mobat that you might be lucky to find,
@@freebeerfordworkers Doctrine states about a couple rounds should be fired before relocating. They would be generally on hills, with only the gun visible
I did my service in -85 in a anti tank brigade with pv1110 on volvo jeeps. We used mainly shoot and scot tactics together with tank mines to bog them down and then call on artillery to do their thing. We used to think the exercises were silly with very little to do with reality but I'm starting to think we were wrong since it appears to work well in the Ukraine. But then we didn't have any drones, only human eyes to do the scouting so I just don't know.
P-18 ? Gjorde samma tjänst, pansarvärnssoldat eller hade du någon annan befattning? Och bromsade man inte pjäsen så sparkade den som en åsna
Long ago in Canadian military our instructor told us of jeep mounted recoiless rifle (USA made). He said on a windy day the gun would wiggle with the jeeps suspension and accuracy was limited to about 250 meters.
Did that gun use the same kind of hanging ball mount that is shown in the video? As i remember very little of such movement was transferred to the PV1110, inertia you know.
As far as I've seen shoot and scoot is what basically everyone is trained to do with recoileless guns for antitank work.. US was training that way with them on jeeps 70 years ago.
you guys would have kicked some fucking ass, don't worry.
Nothing obsolete about ~800mm RHA penetration 🤔
On a technicality he said "800mm of armor" not RHA.
Seems like a good field-gun, just like the Carl-G.
A small cameo of the Swedish-K too 👍
Love to see it!
The Kpist m45B (Swedish-K) was my service gun during my conscription as the AK5 with a folding stock wasn’t yet in service and we needed a compact weapon. Loved the gun, it never failed me and was so easy to maintain. I later had the AK4 and even if it’s a heavier hitter and have a longer range, it’s much more bulkier and not as easy to field strip.
@@Hiznogood I have a friend who found a swedish K in his now deceased granpas attic and since i dont trust the swedish government to not just take it and destroy it i told him to hide it when he asked me what to do. Kinda sad to render something historical useless.
Now if someone that shouldnt is reading; Everything i just said was fiction and should not be taken seriously, As a good and upstanding citizen of the kingdom i would never break any law of said kingdom, nor advice others to do so :)
@@BeeTriggerBee :) baserat broder
@@BeeTriggerBee Alot of Swedish ks eneded up in civilian use in Sweden and even in the USA. We have one in our club. Sadly we are only allowed to have one round loaded in the magazine at a time. We have never fired more than one, I promise ;) I hope AK5s will have the same fate that they end up in civilian use. I know alot of Americans would love to get their hands on AK5s, they are almost more sought after than FN FNCs
Did my service in 79-80 whit pv1110 and the mighty litte Karl-Gustaf 8.4mm GRG in a antitank pluton (PV-Pluton), amazing guns both of them, easy to use easy to handle and very strong on target. We did some prototype testing whit bandvagon whit pv1110 mounted on front vagon...Nice to see Pv1100 in back in action.
From my time in the Swedish army I remember those mounted on band wagons
Bv 2062
Might sound pwradoxical, but Sweden that during the 1990s was not a NATO member nation donated a lot of military equipment to Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia in order for them to become members of NATO
It may be obsolete but punching straight through a BMP-3 could be a bit useful lol
If the ammunition is still reliable this is a very useful weapon. It looks like it could be towed by an ATV, making a small, highly maneuverable and easy to hide ambush weapon.
Hehe, I did my military service on the PV1110. :-) Quite a boom when you pulled the trigger. The trajectory was surprisingly straight and it was very obvious on a night shoot. It had about the same muzzle velocity as the AK4 7.62mm.
I have the ski-pulk that was made to carry the pvpj 1110. It's a bit heavy for civilian skiing but works great for hauling gear with the snowmobile.
You really nailed the swedish name perfectly. Good job!
Thank you!! I took a couple of goes I will admit haha
I find it amusing and puzzling why "Ä" letter is so hard to pronounce for a non native speaker.
@@BeeTriggerBee
Ä is like pronouncing the A in "Jack" or "snack" :)
Or as the good old "Oh yeeeaaaah"
@@lillkloniis Since i live in Skåne/Scania (it does have a Latin name ) i will accept that you are trying to teach me how to pronounce Swedish, I was pointing out that i find it amusing when foreigners pronounce things .
@@BeeTriggerBee
Haha trodde du var amerikan elr ngt :P
We had them on the BV2062 when I did my military service -91 great power in those guns like a Carl Gustaf on steroids ✌️
Ever so interesting with a 60+ year old weapon! And, amazingly, the ammo still works! As a Swede, I'm really... impressed!
As a swede i just say thank god for our engineers.
@@datadavis you swede's always had it right with recoilless weapons. it all started with the 20mm pansarvärnsgevär m/42. This led to the famous, amazing, beautifull, OG GOAT Carl Gustaf 84mm Recoilless rifle that everyone knows
I'm not surprised that they still work. You make very good stuff.
Thank you for the information. I did not realise these were in service.
This gun might be obsolescent,
but so are many russian AFVs.
Rephrase: all are obsolescent
If the russian use tanks from the 50s, the Ukrainians can use anti-tank weapons from the 50s. Makes sense.
I was 5years in the north Swedish army ranger battalion beginning in 2011. Even though we mostly conducted recons and skirmishes this would still have been a marvelous addition to our more heavy side. Shame we gave most of them away to the baltics. But still glad to see them being used in the fight for Europe… imagine modern rounds developed for this rifle🥹
And yeah… Ukraine in mind. Shoot and scoot over trenches every day. Just more efficient. Terrain gains is probably more effective in the political realm but for winning the war being mobile and committed to the end goal is more effective in the end. “See Korea, vietnam, Afghanistan. Best regards from 🇸🇪
As a Swede I am happy that our weapons are useful. Glory to Ukraine. 💛💙
Glory to russia
Glory to Ukraine
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It seems at first the "aid" in terms of weapons some countries could send fast was such that was about to be replaced. Those could be sent without much political discussions since the cost wasnt much to debate. We see now later in the war that bit by bit newer and more sophsticated waepons have turned. Up. However, considering this old guy can penetrate 800 mm armour... that is a heck of a nasty surprise to most vehicles in use even today. And 6 rounds per minute, they can knock out perhaps 2 or 3 vehicles in a column before they have to reposition.
Only if there are enough of them to completely prevent return fire, because this thing has a 90m long and 90° backblast cone that makes it very obvious where it's firing from the instant the gunner squeeses the main trigger after getting a hit with the spotting gun on top.
@@SonsOfLorgar Not as easy as you think for the enemy to locate and return accurate fire on a target some 500m away.
Remember, we are talking about 30sek here. From all is well to everyone is knocked out. This is not an easy task for the enemy during an ambush, especially from inside a vehicle designed in the 70's.
Used the PVPJ in 1989 in militatary service Sweden but then mounted on a Bandvagn, a tracked vehicle 🤙
The "odd visual effect" in the video of a soldier firing one of these looks a lot like the distortions when you "AI upscale" these low res videos you get on Twitter/Telegram. Another supporting piece of evidence is the slow motion - for whatever reason, the default seems to be to slow the frame rate down when upscaling.
Thanks Nick, that might be it.
Some extra comments from Latvia and specifically about local experience with Pvpj1110
Three versions of this gun mounting exist - hand moved wheeled one(show in video), cabinless mobility jeep mounted one(forgot the exact model of vehicle from Swedish army) and one mounted on cabinless bv206 tracked vehicle. Latvia has and operated in some limited capacity all three variants(although all are being retired, with the basic non-mounted version not seen in use for decade).
While the pvpj1110 mounted on jeep or bandwagon chassis are "mobile" to some degree, in our opinion, the wheel carriage variant is pretty bad and hated by units, because it's very heavy(infantry is supposed to assemble it from parts and move around with hands) and using it is impractical. It's more of single shot/suicide weapon, rather than one used continuously to harass or destroy enemy vehicles/positions, because once you have fired, there is no fast disengagement option with such heavy and tedious to move-around gun. It's either you leave the gun in the position and gtfo or get shot at by other vehicles that were not destroyed and die.
While all aid helps Ukraine, I tend to think this is more of "useless leftover weapon donation" than an actual up-to date weapon.
Thank you for sharing those hands on thoughts. No evidence yet of vehicle mounted versions being in Ukraine but they may turn up. The weight issue you mention may explain why the first one to appear was captured when abandoned at a Ukrainian position. I'm sure they'll find their uses over there but as you say vehicle mounting would be more useful/versatile.
Seems to mirror Swedish experience with the gun. On the wheeled infantry mount it's just comically unwieldy; it's over four meters long and too heavy to really transport in any sort of terrain with manpower alone. On that mount it's almost exclusively useful for ambushes, and as you say if you don't immediately win you'll probably have to leave it behind. The point of having it was that it had a lot longer effective range than the Carl Gustav did, and you really want to use that range to make it somewhat less suicidal. It was slightly less impractical in the Swedish far north in winter, because in those conditions you'd take the wheels off and put it on a sled that rangers on skis could tow around. It was still really long and awkward but at least it was somewhat easier to manhandle.
The vehicle mounted version is a lot less impractical but of course it's less effective than modern ATGM's and the like. Still, even the older HEAT rounds for it are still pretty respectable even today, if you manage to hit. In the end it's a weapon system from the 1950's and it shows.
The ammunition is also really unwieldy by the way, a single complete HEAT round is almost a meter long and weighs over 10 kg.
Thank you both for this input, really insightful. Perhaps I should do a proper full video on it.
There are actually multiple vehicle carriers for the PvPjäs 1110:
PvpjTgb 911 (open top variant of the Volvo L3314 with removable steel tube roll cage)
PvpjTgb 1111 (canvas top variant of the Volvo C303)
PvpjBv 2011 (canvas top rear cab variant of the Hägglunds Bv202) and Pvpv Bv 3011 (canvas top rear cab of the Hägglunds Bv 302)
But the Ukraine War has a lot of trench warfare where you can't move around much anyway. Better with a unwieldy weapon than no weapon.
This weapon was also in use by the Irish Army, a lot were purchased and were mostly used by training units and not for general use by units. They were great to watch firing .
Quick edit, not a lot were purchased.
Big Army pulled 106mm Recoilless Rifles out of preserved storage for use by FOBs in Afghanistan. Large diameter bore H.E.A.T. shaped charges still knock out 1960s era tanks and bunkers. And they are already paid for, the rounds just degrading in storage, might as well put them to use.
On the subject of the 1110 appearing in modern circumstances, one of these appeared on a promotional video covering the Milrem THeMIS UGV a few years back. Odd to pair a 1950s recoilless gun with an autonomous vehicle, but fun to see.
I also know that one of the baltic countries recieved Pvpjtgb 1111s, a very capable Volvo light truck carrying the 1110 which acted as the anti-tank screen for swedish tank brigades during parts of the cold war. Now that'd really be something to see in Ukraine
That would be very interesting to see. Wouldn't be surprised to see them mounted on pickups etc. They only need a pintle mounting point.
This must bee the war with the most wide range of different weapons! Totaly amazing how many different types you see in videos.
Certainly an advantage for an army to deal with so many systems...
@@renegrautstueck3468 It's really a disadvantage. A lack of unified logistics tends to wreak havoc with supply, and the only saving grace for Ukraine is that the battlefield has been so static. In a more mobile situation you'd see weapons abandoned left and right because they ended up as dead weight due to lack of ammunition/spare parts.
I was in the Army 84-85 Umeå Sweden, i served at Batpv and used that pansarvärnspjäs at Bv 206 pv bandvagn.. it is a hell of a gun!!
Its like finding a WOMBAT in action.
Yeah, it really is!
@@TheArmourersBench I must admit that most nations recoiless rifles have had a much longer service life than the WOMBAT as they do more than just one job. Removing the Gustav from British service was a mistake as it would do more than just fire HEAT rounds.
Miss the old WOMBAT (I was a Detachment Commander). Mind you I now have terrible tinnitus!
@@alecbowman2548 About midway through Afghanistan it was asked whether there were any WOMBATS left at Donnington as it might have been a cheaper option for knocking holes in compound walls than throwing a Javelin at them. Sadly they'd all long since been disposed of.
@@stamfordly6463 Ours were replaced by MILAN in around ‘83 or ‘84. We expended stacks of Practice rounds. It was all time expired and we were using up as much as we could.
Obsolete doesn't mean ineffective. If your tank gets hit by one of these, that it is 'obsolete' won't help you.
I think i am getting old i saw these in action when i first joined up. On a joined exercise the Swedish soldiers used these.
Great video 👍🏻
Thank you!!
As a class of weapons, recoilless rifles are still potent in the right hands. That one is comparable with the old Wombat when in British service and is not as general purpose as the Charlie G being primarily antitank. . But again that depends on the knowledge and bravery of the user. I know which one I'd rather have. I love the Charlie G. M2, M3 and M4.
There are so many different types of round for the Charlie G 84mm that I've lost track. HE, AP, with EFP, Illumination, smoke, antipersonnel programable airburst etc. I imagine if asked, the Swedish manufacturers could adapt most of the above for the PV-1110. But why bother, just go for the 84mm M4.
Only reason I see for retiring it is that it required quite a bit of manual labor to handle. Time is of the essence when it comes to ready to fire and withdraw.
More modern handheld RPGs and the Swedish Combat Vehicle 90 made this weapon less needed.
This doesn't mean that it's a bad weapon, just that it was deemed unnecessary in order to keep down number of weapon variants in the Swedish defense.
@@ehsnils for a small budget, logistics is critical. Okay, it's still really important for big budgets, but small budgets are even more critical for streamlined logistics.
@@ScottKenny1978 Logistics is always important. Bad logistics can kill the largest corporations and most powerful countries.
@@ehsnils right, but the smaller the budget the tighter you need your logistics.
WOMBAT was rifled and fired a HESH "High explosive squash head" squash head but it is indeed comparable. HEAT is degraded by rifling spin as its spreads the jet while HESH needs it to spread the explosive. In theory rifling is more accurate as fin stabilized weapons don't 'weather cock'.
I love seeing some of these old and sometimes wacky Cold War weapons being used .
Obviously it’s not going to take out a T-90 frontally like a javelin can but even old AT guns can be extremely useful in defensive positions to strike any of Russians light armor APCs or the flanks of tanks. And since Ukraine is mostly on the defensive theses wepons are actually very useful
Ukraine has now a 'luxury' problem then, since they seem to be on the offensive the last few days! 😄 💙💛
All good kit and being used well I would say.
Interesting carriage mount. In a fight for my life/country any gun is better than no gun!.
Cos everybody is their own Defender, the only way stop a baddie with a gun is by a goodie with a gun. It applies both in civil self defence and war self defence.
2:32 The odd visual effect looks a lot like the product of video stabilisation/upscaling filters that come with some smartphones that are sometimes intended to smooth out shaky video footage taken in situations such as walking or running with the phone, they might've activated it by accident or forgotten to disable it, it causes a lot of warping and blurring in some situations as it tries to resolve a smoothed image from data taken from multiple frames of the video which could be quite different.
Yes I think you're right Caleb, seems like they've slowed it down on top of it and of course they put a terrible song over it haha
@@TheArmourersBench where the person was filming from they probably go hit by quite a lot of the concussion wave when the weapon was fired, which would account for the video being shaky at that point!
It's a Carl Gustaf on steroids, was often mounted on a jeep type vichel
I think these have great use in ambush. If you hid several teams sighted into a turn in the road, and your ambush could have enough intensity that the enemy had no way to spot and target you, imagine the melee you could inflict? Drones, artillery, especially artillery dropping AT mines, and these. I can guess the teams still have huge risk given the massive signature but if the enemy stress out and pop smoke the teams would be safe.
A small pickup truck can easily tow the gun. I am curious if a quadbike/atv can also tow it.
Set up just inside a woodline, fire a few rounds, then drive deeper into the woods, ideally with a trail nearby.
I guess bofors could make new ammo for it like confined space ammo similar to at4
I enjoy this series
Thanks for watching Joe!
I love how it instinctively points like a rifle, instead of the more rigid mounts that require moving the whole system for coarse aiming changes. Sweden makes scary AT systems! I myself have experience with good ol' Charlie G, another Bofors system.
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Is that 90mm recoil-less rifle that had gyroscope or stabillizer in it? I,m sure i saw that on periscope film.
Surprised that the Ukrainians haven't put this on the Toyota Hi-Lux(?) (in America, we call them the Tacoma) pick-up trucks. It would seem to be a good platform pairing.
Hahaha your a simpleton
Considering thats sort of how they where officially fielded by Sweden during the cold war, on stripped down soft skin vehicles it would fit pretty well (ok they were forward facing).
Damn i havn't seen any of these since the 90's
I'm amazed we haven't seen any US M40 106mm recoilless rifles yet.
I was amazed that TOW has only just been announced!
@@TheArmourersBench Probably because of the large initial deliveries of more modern systems, right?
@@TheArmourersBench yeah we have plenty of TOW sitting in the warehouses I'm surprised those didn't go first...the russians gain nothing by copying those. a captured javelin would be an intel goldmine for them.
@@warhorse03826 You could hand the Russians the drawings to Javelin and they would have zero chance of reverse engineering them. Twenty years of Putin has turned Russia into rather backward country with very little tech development. They simply can't produce the chips needed for modern defence projects. They will certainly have captured examples of Javelin but it will be more like that scene in 2001 where the proto-humans discover the monolith than the golden era of the Soviet Union when they genuinely had scientific wizards on the payroll.
@@zoiders so they hand it to the chinese or iran and they reverse-engineer it. same difference.
iran has a long history of reverse-engineering american tech.
The spotting rifle was based on Ag-42b I heard. Is the ammo tuned to match ballistics?
As i remember it from a marketing video, the trajectory of the AT round follows the standard rifle trajectory. No tuning necessary.
This is a surprisingly high velocity round for a recoilless rifle, 700m/s(!), so it's basically already got the same ballistics as the 7.62nato cartridge.
It kick like a Mule If you dont "break" the gun with the handle. Forgot that one time and it did look like a part from a spaceship that went skyhigh
This should be attached to the mtlb also to be a somewhat anti-tank
Swedish weapons in Finland 1939-40 (Bofors) and Ukraina 2022. 👍❤. Always defending free world. Greets och tack from lillebror Finland.
Well this time they were defending American and western interests, so the result may differ.
I'd be surprised if there wasn't also a HE round making it useful as light artillery in addition to the anti-armor role.
As I recall it only had HEAT, though the troop also had 2 Carl Gustav . ( Carl Gustav were ridiculously common in the Swedish army )
@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 yes, two Pvpj 1110 and two grg m/48 in a pansarvärsnpluton. We also had two Rb56 and two ksp58
@@JohnDoe-sb7ch A big problem was the different in engagement range : 1-2km for Rb56 vs ~500m for pvpj. A HE charge would be good for Rb56.
Ther is still a good bite in the swedish steel
I read in a commentary that i considered serious, that 80 per cent of all MBTs in the West of Europe world is armored with Swedish steel.
It's a defensive sniper weapon system that should be operated from concealment
The nickname is "Huggpipan" woodpecker
I haven’t even seen those in museums in Sweden 😅
Just because weaponry is old, doesnt mean its obsolete. when you look at it, old weapons from the cold war, fulfill their intendet purpose right know, because the opposite side still has that old soviet gear, it was developed against
it might be usefull against all older tanks than T-64 ,72 -since if should go through more armour than the 22cm shows -double at least
It should be capable of popping T72s from the front.
Excellent video end there might be some left over SPG-9s in Former East Germany where it was called Schwere Panzerbüchse SPG-9D This was used by the East German army transport police Special units People's Police. Germany can just give them to Ukraine if they still have them in warehouses
I expected that Germany had emptied their warehouses of all the Soviet hardware already, but I could be mistaken.
Those i saw was mounted on jeeps
mostly. Or always
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any more info on the ball mount part
What would you like to know?
Hope they get all of them
I am fascinated by these recoilless artillery pieces because they might be the answer for large scale deployment of direct fire anti-armor weapons. Just like Javelin doesn't replace TOW. I'm not sure TOW truly replaced the M40. Maybe SACLOS missiles and electronic sights will get progressively cheaper until they can be mass produced, but right now they seem too expensive for truly large scale warfare. Even the US doesn't have enough TOW launchers to cover just 1,000 km of frontline.
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I want one
Sorry for knit picking. I guess this will come up over and over in the comments but I am too lazy to read through them. This is not a rifle it is smooth bore. In Swedish terminology it is defined as PVPJ (PansarVärnsPJäs,) literal translation "anti-tank piece" (piece as in an artillery piece) so "recoilless gun"or "recoilless piece" is more accurate description, Even the Carl Gustaf is mislabeled rifle since it has a caliber above 25mm (sometimes defined as 20mm) even though it at least is rifled. But it would be ridiculous to go around and call it a recoilless howitzer. :)
the "odd visual effect" was the lensing effect of the shock wave from the back blast. It was the shock wave coming straight at the camera.
Yeah, I think it's the phone slow mo effect or its upscaling capturing that backblast.
@@TheArmourersBench It's a change in the refraction index of the air due to the increased pressure/density. The compressed air of the shock wave is creating a lens.
I’d imagine this would be more effective mounted in the bed of a truck.
I always find accurately presented well-reasoned videos entertaining and informative. You avoid the Russian fear the blah blah blah. This weapon seems useful against bunkers fortified positions I'm sure Ukraine was glad to have them.
The problem with everybody giving Ukraine different weapons is in the logistics. Can they get enough ammunition into the field for all these different varieties of weapons to make them effective?
Thank you! I think logistics must be a nightmare. I'm not sure if the ammunition is still in production but if not they're reliant on existing stocks.
As a swede I have mixed feelings. Nice that the stuff came to good use of course, but I definitely hope it was only used in the early stages of the war, and they started to use our Carl Gustav, and the NLAW's (joint venture between BAE Systems and SAAB) instead. :-) Love from Sweden.
Yah thats not really how war works. The Ukrainians haven’t revived enough modern western equipment to replace every outdated weapon they use.
did you enjoy the recent missile strikes? this is only beginning.
A worthy competitor to the M40!
Sweden makes some of the coolest stuff.
Have any Stg44s shown up?
Not that I’ve seen. Have seen pretty much every other WW2 Ostfront small arm though.
I've seen a couple that are clearly from civilian collections posed with but no sign of actual use. The ammunition would be the key factor.
They would be better off selling them to an American collector and buying 50-60 AK’s.
@@Chiller01 if only it were possible. Maybe as parts kits.
Looks similar to the old US 106mm recoiless rifle.
Can you do a video on the Norwegian mistral 2 in Ukraine?
I will try and find some photos/video of it on the ground.
When it can penetrate up to 800mm of armour, the age of a weapon system isn't so relevant - especially to the occupants of the target!
did you like the recent missile strikes?
Interesting
Oh the backblast has to be really bad
I've said it before, where are the old WOMBATS? 120mm of tank hell. If the UK and Australia still have these in storage, get them over to Ukraine.
The 90mm rounds for the Pv1110 have twice the penetration of the 120mm BAT rounds. The WOMBAT was heavier and higher profile. The Pv1110 outclasses is totally.
@@barrygregory8177 im not suggesting instead of but in addition to, im fully aware of the efficacy of the bofors system. The wombat was a good weapon, still would be if used correctly.
@@1015780 exactly.
I'm wondering if there is not a future for such weapons because if the Ukraine war has shown one thing it is how fast sophisticated munitions run out. A modernized version would have the following.
1 Electronic Stereoscopic Range Finder (laser as a supplement).
2 Gyroscopic Lead Computing Gun Sight with lock on capability.
3 Guided Shock Hardened Munition using say beam riding or command line of sight which only intervenes in the terminal phases of the flight.
4 Self homing ammunition
Being able to fire dumb ammunition is key as such a device could engage accurately a moving target to at least 1km.
How did they get them,? "They fell off the back of the truck ".
Did they get it from a museum?
Nope from the Baltic States
Ok so it might have a harder time with modern _tanks_ but if it'll poke holes in tracks and trucks and similar then why not use it?
Carl Gustafs bigger little brother :)
(Carl Gustaf was developed first)
the coolest one is the "pv jeep" this gun mounted on a very ugly car =)
Still in use because it works.
Indeed!
Wow! How could you pronounce Pansarvärnspjäs so perfectly? Amazing. No English speaking person should be able to do that.
Hahah thank you, I consulted a friend on the proper pronunciation (I've tripped over a few in videos over the years but no excuse this time) thanks for watching!
It's ironic how this looks like cold war going hot with both sides using a lot of old equipment.
whats the advantage of being recoilless
Faster repeat shots on target without having to significantly relay the gun. The guns are also much lighter because they don't have to withstand the same stresses of firing or have a heavy recouperator to soak up the recoil of the gun. Thanks for watching.
@@TheArmourersBench many thanks
What I’ve learned from War Thunder is that recoilless rifles are the evolution of the anti tank ammunition in the period after WWII
Yes and no.
Sweden had a recoilless rifle during WW2. The Carl Gustaf m42.
This was a recoilless rifle that fired a solid bullet, so it was a hybrid between the pre/early war Anti-tank rifles and the late/post war missile launcers.
But a recoilless rifle is not a rocket launcher, even if it fires a HEAT- round like the later Carl Gustaf AT-weapons.
It is it's own type of weapon.
The type of warhead it fires has a different evolution. HEAT-type warheads were predominant in most portable AT systems in the post-war era.
@@JH-lo9ut would disagree. HEAT came on towards the end of WWII. Germans had HEAT rounds, but it’s HEAT-FS which made them more effective. However even then, HEAT-FS was not as effective due to the low caliber of guns below 100mm. The combination of high caliber RR rifle and HEAT allowed for tiny vehicles like Italian R3 to possess 100+mm caliber RR with very powerful HEAT grenade rounds. It’s the ease of logistics RR brought. You can now install a 100+mm gun on the back of the pickup truck to fight against tanks and that’s a major upgrade.
why not - it the shit fits - wear it
That foggy frame gives me seizures
If it shoots and hurts what it hits, why not use it? These clearly work well, and in modern conflicts will be great against light tanks, transports, emplacements, or other medium-level targets. I love seeing older weapons still in use, and I hope more show up!
I'll be covering more older weapons turning up in coming videos. Thanks for watching.
No-one has used light tanks for 50 years
Fair few still subscribe to the concept. The US just selected a new one and India is in search of one. Others are looking at optionally manned light tanks.
@@muwuny except the chinese have just adopted a new one....
@@Ukraineaissance2014 Didn't know the ukraine was fighting China
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