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When Odin said Thor was more powerful than him, it felt like a he had more potential than Odin. Nothing shown so far suggests that he's actually surpassed Odin yet
Odin was always wise and loved both his sons Thor and Loki.
That’s because it’s going to take thousands of years before he gets on Odins level. Odin is a titan breaker and act of nature.
We literally haven’t seen Odin do anything extraordinary. It was only told by story, we can assume? But if anything Hela is more impressive. Odins eye was taken out by a frost giant Laufey who at best was probly Multi continental level.
Now Thor took the full force of a dwarf star and he may have died. But his durability in Infinity war was Solar system level.
@@moonknight4053I get you man I really hate how marvel writers say that Odin beated fully powerd Surter and Hella but on screen he seem much weeker.
Rune king thor... nuff said...
I feel like Zeus is just gonna be that guy in the movie that flashes his power but never uses it to fight, and he's gonna know about gore when they ask him who he is and tell some story and he's just gonna be the old guy in the corner giving speeches and amping the fighters up like what Odin did in the other 2 Thor Movies
This kind of sounds how they used Odin
@@joeypowell7115 exactly. If we’re being honest Odin really only had one or two good flashes of power in the whole three movie series! He of course did nothing in the battle of the infinity stones, so many times these movies producers don’t seem to get it when it comes to what the fans want. Anyone into Thor is obviously into the Norse gods, so why would we not want to see more of them, and in their power and glory? I just don’t understand how these producers get it wrong so often. It’s just like Star Wars. Clearly most people into Star Wars are into it because of Luke Skywalker. Why would we want to see less of Luke, barely using his powers? How can these professionals get these things wrong, but we sitting in our bedrooms can figure it out?
in true reality they are the same person. yes him
@@troyelam8978 it has to be some what comic accurate… why would they put Norse gods if it has nothing to do with marvel… this is marvel, not some Norse god movie.
Gorr is a random nobody who happens to find 2 gods fighting (knull and a god of light), takes all black and become the god butcher from then on.
No, he's going to be a clown for most of the movie, get killed by Gorr in the third act and King Valkyrie steals his thunderbolt to stand up against Gorr in the final battle.
That would suck, also it would be Queen.
@@alcostello6114 They gotta demonstrate to the audience that Gorr is a God Butcher after all. Be dumb to call himself that if it was all tell not show.
@@alcostello6114 Yeah they are calling her King Valkyrie. Gotta keep the gender confused happy.
Yeah that would suck.
In reality, Thor shouldn't be "God-King of a Pantheon" levels of OP till much later tbh. I hate how people are all seeing Zeus as just some gimmick. If Gorr kills him with no effort, or if Thor fights him and gives him any kind of major trouble whatsoever... I'll he disappointed.
Don't want the Greek Pantheon to be taken out like some discount Avengers with no Plot Armor
If Gorr kills Ares after a decent fight, sure. Maybe show Athena (or Thena, if that's truly her?) Fight him for a few seconds before getting saved by Thor, who looked up to the Eternals as they aided and fought alongside Asgardians.
They have to show tht a chick can ne more powerful than a SKYFATHER
I actually hope Zeus just barley survive’s just so he can be around for future Cosmic movies!! Especially Secret Wars!!!!
I have a bad feeling they’re going to kill Zeus off like nothing…
Like Black Bolt in MoM?
@@e3vL1 In a sense, yes.
Wanda must of loved The Matrix!!!
_Uhh duh! All-Black is going straight through Zeus gut lol sorry buddy_
My prediction. Jane Foster and Valkyrie are going to be the main heroes and characters in the movie, killing off Gorr, as if he was nothing, because Gorr killed off the other gods as if they were nothing.
ODIN know more than both of them about power, fighting skill, magic, and weapons. So Zeus and Thor are yet to show they are even close to what Odin has in his arsenal of knowledge and skills. Odin has brutally conquered the whole universe with Hela, and Odin easily subdued Hela like a boss.
Thor has never been Zeus's equal, Zeus has always been Odin's equal. And remember, post awakened Thor got his ass handed to him by Thanos more than once....
Mcu Zeus looks horrendous
The Infinity Gauntlet handed Thor his ass. Thanos handed Thor nothing. Each time Thanos confront Thor he had at minimum 1 stone, or all 6, at maximum.
@@AustinFan4Life When Thanos fought Thor, Cap, and Iron Man in Endgame, he didn’t have any stones and was winning.
Facts❗ Hercules give Thor problems
I don’t think Odin is on par with Zeus he’s god of gods that’s like a Superman to Superman
Power scaling is such a pain in the a$$. And not sure how powerful Thor really is in the MCU. Once Odin died Thor got a boost. He just hadn't had a chance (in my opinion) to truly use and tap into his full potential. He's been in a mental trap since Infinity War and basically growing up in a new way. Even being 1500 years old.
Exactly after Odin died Thor didgeridoo stronger we just haven't seen him use his other powers
Yh he still hasn’t used his new powers properly. Only for like 30seconds in infinity way. The only way I see Thor take no.1 place in the MsheU is if they adapt his heritage specifically his mother. Idk make phoenixe force his real mom. That paired with his asardian heritage should make him clap wanda. A lot of people forget that Odin agreed to having son with Phoenix force solely to have the strongest offspring in the universe
@@ps3addictionz334 Then have him find the runes and sacrifice his eyes lol, make that dude so powerful he solos the celestials
Thor has yet to receive ordin force tho.
power scaling is pretty easy if ur not braindead. most people who try and scale the mcu dont even know how to scale properly
As Stan Lee said when it comes to "vs" it all depends on the writer...... same goes for anyone else doing a versus.... it all comes down to who they want to win so the discussion would swing to the character they want to win.
That’s kind of exactly what makes these types of videos so fun. The winner can really go either way and it’s really nice to hear other people reason out why they think one may win over the other.
@@shinobicritic2077 it can't go either way because the person doing the video or "vs" already has in mind who they want to win
@@blueshinobi1085 You missed my point
@@shinobicritic2077 you missed mine.
Very true. That's how fiction works. People's opinions on others fictional ideas are just that, opinion. My opinion they are equal. Odin would have the edge in Asgard. Zues in Olympus.
It's sad that he's probably gonna die. It would be interesting to see Greek Mythology in the MCU
Dude from Gladiator never stopped and did his people proud by becoming the God of them all
I have this fear that they will make gorr look weaker than he actually is. No way shape or form do they win against him at all.
Facts
They make everyone look weaker then they actually are tbf. I hope they lose to gorr or bring him to stalemate. He should be a long term villian.
I'm waiting for reviews before I blow my money on another nerf
In the comics they beat him so...
@@WhiteBoyTariq yeah barely, using time-travel and having 3 different versions of Thor go all out while an army of different space gods helps them :/
You flicked too hard, dammit!
😁 Zeus "Thor old boy, how are you? I heard about Asgard and was going to invite your people to come stay with us here on Olympus, but the in-laws were visiting at the time and... Well, you know how it is."
😒 Thor "..."
I love these speculation videos you do. Keep em coming
i hope they dont kill zeus, i feel like we need some wise older gods in the MCU and it kinda feels like putting LITERAL ZEUS in a movie only to kill him off right away is a very missed oppertunity. i do hope my man HERC shows up tho.
They really weren't a big deal in the comics though so ........ yeah
Hades is gonna take the throne once Zeus is killed so I'd take it that Zeus probably dies. Leaves open a movie of Hercules coming back to Olympus to take the throne from hades
Considering they made Zeus look like Larry the Cable Guy cosplaying Zeus and the cheap plastic lightning bolt, I don't hold much hope for it. It looks like Thor wondered into a play.
But if u seen multiverse of madness they don't care about killin characters unless those were variants
@@Adredz23 Those were in a different universe. They were included to be killed.
In the fight between Zeus and Thor, or at least one of them, It was clearly stated that Zeus was actually holding back, but was also not being gentle, as he really didn't want to start unnecessary beef with Odin. Personally, I think Zeus is physically stronger than Odin, and might even be more powerful, but I think Odin is much smarter and cunning than Zeus is. As for the MCU variants, I bet Odin is more powerful, but was clearly more limited by age.
Asgardians get stronger with age I thought
@@DonOnEm Yeah, but Odin is so old that his strength may have started dwendling by now.
@@kalebwilliams1213 nah they literally keep getting stronger bro, their strength doesn’t dwindle
In the MCU
Odin was using a part of his life force to seal hela
That's why he needed to rest
In a deep sleep
Zeus and odin along vishnu are all three equal sky fathers
Zeus is power
Odin is knowledge
Vishnu is i guess a balance of the two
The one that maintain the two from fighting each other
Naw asguardians are stronger in mythology and comics Greek gods are mainly bully and rapist asguardians are a warrior race learning everything in the universe to benefit them in case anything and zues in mythology got his powers from a cyclops and never did anything by himself
Zeus would wreck Thor in comics and movies
Super great stuff!
Good one my friend keep up the good work now me honestly who’s is more powerful Odin or Zeus hard to say
Not a fan of how Zeus looks in this movie personally but I do hope we see way more of the Greek gods in the MCU
looks way better in the dceu
@@naeemislam1105 idk if uk what Percy Jackson is but its based on the children of Greek Gods and the main characters is Percy, the son of Poesiden. Point is they made a terrible movie and they showed a live action Zeus and imo that's how I picture Zeus looking. Not an old man..no offense to the actor
@wargames how is it inaccurate. The books and movies changes things from actual Greek mythology but I'm talking abt how Zeus looks in the movie. That's how I picture him
just suddenly adding Greek gods into the MCU is so stupid and pathetic.
why?
because then fans with a brain should ask themselves and the producers of this franchise, where exactly were these Gods when something like Thanos happened?
MCU world building is too much at this point. the Guardians Of The Galaxy makes sense because these heroes are in space, far away from Earth.
Inhumans and Eternals? not so much. I just pretend they don't even exist or are part of another universe.
but now Greek gods exist in the MCU. they are rivals of Thor. where was Zeus when Thanos destroyed Earth?
bigger does not make things better.
MCU right now is all over the place. it has become bland and generic.
everything should have ended with Avengers Endgame.
@@LevisH21 Where was the Egyptian gods?where was the Greek gods? where was hulk in civil war? where was Thor in civil war? This is a issue with having every movie being connected to each other, eventually you hit moments where not everybody can be there for different reasons, and they need to expand the story somehow so yeah even though they live in the same cinematic universe the story continues.
There were a few mistakes mostly Odin said Thor could become stronger yet hasn’t as strong yet due to his lack of experience as Odin was as strong as he was due to his knowledge and master of not only the Odin force but things like runes and mystic arts, Zeus most likely is the same way as Thor might have more raw power Zeus would likely win in a fight, byt Thor would eventually become stronger has he gains more experienced and defeat gor with the help of Jane and valkery
Great video I appreciate it. Reading the comments I hope they don’t waste Zeus an just kill Him an throw away mt Olympus it’d be cool to see everybody and more mcu power arch’s on display, always nice to see action in an action movie
Odin in Thor 1 says they are not God's. He says "we are not God's, we age, we die"
Zeus is more powerful. All he has do is wait for Thor to get old and die as all asgardians do... Olympians are immortal and live forever!
Asgardians only get stronger with age.
MCU is way different when compared to mythology. It's pretty obvious that in the MCU the Aasgardians are superior to the Greeks. I'm guessing that Zeus is gonna get killed for the plot, which sucks cause I'd love to see more greek gods getting involved in Marvel movies.
How is it obvious
Gorr can defeat Zeus, I think that speaks for itself
@@justinian8104 Wait you have watched the movie? where did you get it. Also even if he can Gorr never went up against Odin. So no way to scale directly.
@@Jaded_Jester Don't worry we'll get new characters probably like Hercules but that's speculation too.
Mcu maybe but mythology Zeus drags Odin
Great video marvelous wave 👋 👌 🙌 👏 😎
I like your explanation bro
Where is Odin’s staff though?
Odin once stated in the comics that Zeus is more powerful than he is.
Odin is humble
Very interesting indeed.
this movie gonna be big
It's good seeing Zeus being involved in the MCU. Hopefully, Hercules isn't far behind
Kevin Sorbo? Or The Rock? :D
@@Seraphatum neither lol
@@Seraphatum
Kevin is 63 yeas old now. I doubt he'd even want to play as Hercules again.
To be honest, I don't think The Rock would be a bad choice. He would be perfect for the action/comedy type movie that Marvel is known for these days. It may be an unpopular opinion, but that's what I think.
I feel like they will probably go with somebody newer though, and I would be okay with getting a fresh face as Hercules. That's how we got Chris Hemsworth. Allot of us didn't even know him before Thor
N ares lol cuz I’m comics Thor n hercules are best friends so it would be such a waste not to include him
Hercules is dead, beaten to pulp by kratos. And to be honest, so is zues...
I’m actually looking forward to Russell Crowe as Zeus.
I think we still haven't seen the final form of Gorr yet. The more gods & goddess he kills the more powerful and his body will keep changing though out the movie until he looks the the comic book character.
"ZEUS!! YOUR SON HAS RETURNED,, I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF OLYMPUS!.."
Do you REALLY think Thor is equal to Zeus...a SKYFATHER equal to Odin????? Just stop it, and even Marvel writers have said the comics showing Thor to be able to almost equal Zeus were horrible, and it was also said that Zeus was taking it easy on Thor since he respected Odin. Zeus and Odin are equals, Hercules and Thor are peers, and Hercules beat Thor in "Blood Oath," and Herc has never beaten Zeus, thus Thor cannot either.
Is current thor still beneeth zeus powerwise? ( talking about comics, herald of none thor or king thor)
@@HobbsterTheLobster23 I believe he has the Odinfirce, but doesn't know how to use it, and he is still young age wise compared to Zeus; thus, he SHOULD be significantly less powerful still, but I'm sure they will scale down Zeus' powers in order to make Thor greater than him. Again, in the comics, regular Thor pales in comparison to Odin and Zeus.
Hercules stomped an amped Zeus after he became a Skyfather himself.
Zeus in marvel is stated to use magic to enhance his strength with date books listing his natural strength as LOWER than Hercules.
Hercules has far more potential in raw strength,like Thor has far more potential than Odin
Also Hercules breast feeding from Hera gave him full god strength from the start,he beat Ares as a demigod,wrestled Zeus to a stalemate,broke adamantine which Zeus couldnt break.
Zeus is far more powerful but Hercules is naturally stronger
@@REALFIGURES-tj7fl Hercules was "Chaos King Hercules" if I remember correctly, so that would make him more powerful than even an amped Zeus, so you can't really count that. Also, you are correct that Hercules is the "strongest" Olympian, but Zeus can increase his strength for a bit to match Hercules, but is vastly more powerful, thus the reason "regular" Hercules cannot beat his father.
Its gonna be very dissapointing if they are going to let Gorr kill the mighty God of Olympus
Thanks
Odin is supreme, he is the God of Wisdom. He can outclass any mind!
I have a feeling that this interaction of Zeus is gonna be like the Zeus from Disney's Hercules TAS.
seems like it
^ iteration... Of Zeus.
As much as I like Thor, Zues will always be my favourite Thunder God. Can’t wait to see the clash of the Thunder Gods. And I don’t want Zues dead!!
gotta love Zeus's "T" shirt tan
great speculative vid; please put spoiler of the new thor movie in the title though, I had no idea Zeus made an appearance in it and that would have been a great surprise :(
Given that there is a “god killer” in the movie I think it’s pretty likely that and Zeus is
while powerful is probably not in his prime. End result Zeus will be dead or close to it after encountering him.
In mythology, Zeus is more powerful than Odin. In fact, there are very few deities in par with Zeus in the myths. In Norse myth, Odin is more like the Celtic wizard Merlin than Zeus.
@Кайл Read the myths - The abilities of Zeus are pretty much laid out throughout Greek-Roman myth whereas those of Odin are less defined and inconsistent from story to story -
Cool knowledge
Feels like we may see a Gorr vs zeus battle in the movie
I zeus am the strongest ⚡
Give us Zeus vs Gorr good battle scene i don’t care if he will die in it just make it good marvel 🙏
Odin was always the big dog all father but because it's a newer movie they making zues look formidable too which he is
@0:07. Munier the hammer splits apart. Munier. Splits apart. That's why it is still cracked. They work like the 10 rings.
i dont think thor will have the odin force when he faces zeus in the movie i actually think zeus being a sky father will have same powers as odin he will likely give thor the upgrade or the help he needs also i see him giving valkyri her power upgrade as well
sorry but this doesnt make sense because in all comics and even in the movie thor always receives the odinforce after odin's death. i do think they are trying to make thor learn and understand the odin force to use its true power at its max
@@lahchrissa how doesnt it make sense were going based off the marvel movies and odin has been dead for a few movies now have u seen thor use the odin force yet? face thanos twice did u see him use it mcu does things differently im not saying he can give thor the odin force directly but he can introduce him to it and let him know it is theyre all father or sky father like i said odin and zeus are on the same par i look forward to your next reply
@@lahchrissa and even in the trailor if thor had the odin force you think zeus would be able to restrain him like that i8 think not so u say my theory doesnt make sense how do u think thor will come across the odin force in the actual mcu not the comics?
@@bankhead832 like
I said I think he has the Odin force but he has to learn to use it and understand… also the Odinforce has a will
If it’s own it wouldn’t need Zeus to talk Thor it would just do it in some kind of vision similar to what happened in ragnarok when thro was get beat down by hulk and had visions
@@lahchrissa so like I said who better to teach him how to use it than another sky father?
Odin actually 3 times more powerful than zeus he is God of wisdom one of the most intelligent and powerful character in marvel universe who beat eternal flame surtur , hela , frost giants it's made him much more stronger than zeus in comics Odin enough to destroy universe but zeus shown only solar system blaster character
What a load of crap.
Kris
No……no!!!!!!!
I assume he’ll show small feats just impressive enough to make Gorr one shotting him a shock to the audience
It's hard to say, with a character like the Hulk being so underrated and reduced to being a punching bag as a metric for the power of others who knows what they'll do with Zeus and Gorr? I guess it's like Stan Lee said, it's up to the writers 😳🥺🤯
Hand to hand combat, Zeus wins, he’s stronger pound for pound. However Odin is an all around more skilled fighter with weapons. And if they’re on Asgard Odin takes it.
I think Odin is also a more powerful magician than Zeus.
Oh, I forgot. Odin to knocked out Galactus with a single punch. If i remember right. After that he had to go into the Odin Sleep for a long while. but he did it. So Odin is nothing to sneeze of when it comes to Hand to hand combat.
Odin is the strongest of the sky fathers odin can fight galactus. While zues cant without a power boost from the dark force
@@palmarolavlklingholm9684 That was actually Zeus that knocked out galactus in the comics not Odin.
@@marketomega Sorry. Odin did not punch him. He headbutted Galactus into unconsciousness. But immediately afterwards he fell into the odinsleep.
You all remember in Zack Snyder’s Zeus easily separated the mother boxes which took superman some time to do
that with victor stone help and you know that Superman beat Thor when they did fight so Zeus is likely stronger than any other gods in all movies
Different versions, that doesn’t count.
Man get that DC crap outta here
What the hell is DC doing here?
This is a great chance to interduce Heracles in the MCU
Something I remember from the comics is that "Asgardians grow stronger with time" as Thor says. When fighting Thanos, he used the time stone to age the Avengers literally into dust and rust (rip Tony), but when he turned the stone on Thor, aging him by theoretically infinite time, Thor just got so OP that he absolutely donkd on Thanos. Might be interesting to consider their ages, and whether or not the Greek pantheon has the same affect.
I see that you never read the comics and just go by forum posts and wikis. The Hulk he beat was at "normal" levels and the Galactus he beat was being controlled. Skyfathers aren't as powerful as Galactus. Read the comics next time instead of going the easy route.
The Mighty Thor #5 shows that Odin can't beat Galactus. Even one that hasn't fed on a world with a living soul. Doesn't matter that Odin was woken up from Odinsleep too early. Galactus can also take on four Celestials. Odin can't even beat one.
Thor and Zeus are not similarly scaled...you missed out on quite a lot and in fact how other entities and abstracts consider Zeus and Odin on par. Thor isn't even in the equation.
Odin needs the Odinforce to be equal to Zues. Keep that in mind.
I guess he's in the movie for the Worf Effect. He'll be introduced as a super powerful god, more powerful than Thor but then Gorr will come and kill him rather easily so that there is suspense against a powerful antagonist. Like Hela casually breaking Thor's hammer and soloing the might of Asgard.
The one above all!
In the comics, Odin also has a sword, armor, and a whole bunch of other weapons (Not to mention the Destroyer Armor.) that he can conjure up and call on.
And Zeus struck down Galactus with a lightning.
Does Marvel or DC ever stick to power scaling? After TOAA, scaling goes out the window. It's up to the writer(s) of each individual character at the time.
Marvel and DC never really stick to powerscaling except for obvious things like Superman being stronger then Bat-Man and such. If you look beyond the plot induced stupidity and outliers, then comics are pretty consistent (not because of the writers but the editors),
Good Lord! Zeus better cut back in the Baklava...Oofta!
you know what is screen power, well it's that I have watched the trailer few times but not even once bother to see who is beside Russel crowe and how beautiful they are. just now I noticed them. that's called screen presence.
you have to include odin having to recharge with the odin force and him also being long lived and not immortal, now also factor in zeus immortality. its like you said its up to the writers. writers find odin more writable than zeus. zeus has way more power and abilities that have not been shown in the comics.
But that’s like saying Odin May have more power than hasn’t been shown in the comics? Zeus is immortal not invincible and Odin is far older, thor gave Zeus a good fight before they held a truce and thor was battered by Odin in every fight up to that point for comparison
@@craigjenkins7035 exactly. since comics are the only "real" telltale of abilities, odin has the odinforce. and we've seen what happens when thor gets it. zeus and odin both have the "normal" powers of godly beings- super strength and endurance, and control of their own molecules. as long as the asguardians keep eating the golden apples, they are pretty much immortal. as for odin being older, the norse people didnt get created IRL until a thousand years or more AFTER people settled in greece. leaving this to the writers is just dumb. the next writer could just have magneto kill off the greek pantheon. but most of us will know that that was just crap writing.
For comics
Zeus,odin and vishnu are equal force
Thor did face zeus
However zeus was holding back at a certain level
He didn't want a direct conflict with odin
And he was testing thor and thor was hanging on pretty well
But zeus was not going max power on him
Real Mythology
Zeus can solo
Odin,thor and loki by himself
(Okay technically ares and athena were by his side)
But he can take on all three if he want
May be it is also a way for the romans to say to the northerns
That their Olympic gods were far more stronger than the Nordic gods
I am pretty sure that Odin needed to recharge with the odin force only when he was growing old
@@u_nova_ thor and Zeus fought for months to. Stalemate at the same time Odin used to knock him about
The AllFather ODIN is the best mythological deity & Gungnir is the best mythological weapon
And that is simply your opinion and nothing else....
Is that Loki summoning a black hammer at 6:33? What is that from?
A kratos cameo joke would be awesome
Hilarious cuz in the M-she-u none of the above stand a chance against Captain Marvel or Scarlett Witch, by large margins really. Thor was absolutely thumped by a non gauntlet wearing Thanos while Captain Marvel and Scarlett Witch were both about to beat Thanos individually. Such a joke.
I mean, thor was a gamer and didnt fight for years, he was out of shape, infinity war thor would slap gauntlet-less thanos
@@HobbsterTheLobster23 well, it's because Captain Marvel and especially Scarlet Witch ARE extremely powerful. And Thor is too, but during Endgame he wasn't.
@@hritviknijhawan1737 i agree, he wasnt during endgame, but i think he'll become very strong this coming movie.
Then quit following and bitching about it. Move on mr. beta.
Thor endgame was a joke, after love and thunder he will be the most powerful and make him cosmic level as it should be always, a human witch or a kree accident can t never compare to an mighty god
I don't know about the comics but in the real mythology Zeus is the most powerful been. He even fought the Titans for 10 years including his own father Kronos and enslaved them down to the "tartara"...
Zeus got help from other gods, also Cyclops and even some of the Titans.
@@hydrolito He still canonically wrestled with Cronos and won.The prochesy itself said Zeus would be stronger than his father.Physically its indicated Hercules slightly surpasses him but Zeus is still FAR more powerful due to his lightning,thunderbolts and other powers Hercules lacks.
@@hydrolito And the Asgardians get all the help they get from their allies o ly that they all get slaughtered in the end unlike the Olympians.
It's funny how this people compare Odin to Zeus, I don't know they know anything about the real Zeus. The guy can do anything he wants, anything, unlike Odin that only fight without having more impossible abilities. Zeus can just alter reality and can make anything happen
Stan Lee & Jack Kirby did a story in which the Asgardians defeated Zeus & the Olympians,but the victory was not what Thor thought it would be. Worth checking out.
Spaceship Hulk will have a word with those gods at level.10 and beyond.
Technically, Zeus being a skyfather is equal to Odin, who is a skyfather as well.
And I'd personally put base Zeus > base Odin because Odin force comes from the sum of Odin's brothers powers with his.
In the comics Zeus also is stated to amp his strength through magic.Naturally he is slightly weaker than Hercules
being a skyfather does not make you equal tf is u on abt
@@bhnjmk8898 being a skyfather doesn't make him equal but he is a part of the inter pantheon Trinity of Odin Zeus and Vishnu
They are said to be around the same level.
@@HA-ug4qu odin being the strongest he's older then both of them ... Odin can fight galactus zues cant without a boost from the dark force
@@ivanvalera3250 I read Chaos War seven times. Zeus defeated Galactus with his own power, had no increase.
I am afraid Zeus is going to be joke character.
Yeah I think it's time to hold off on this one see what they do for him
Its Russel Crowe
several times mentioning Odin telling Thor that Thor is the stronger of the two i simply couldn´t helped but thought that Odin said so to Thor only to give him hope. I mean,Asgardians grow in power with age and Hela is way older than Thor,not sure what would happen if to Thor´s "I am not as strong as you." Odin would simply replay like "Unfortunately,about this you are right."
I bet Zeus is the antithesis of Odin but as powerful in every way.
Thor isn’t beating zeus bruh and there’s a big power difference you gotta do a bit more research
Jay
Yep!!!
I'd say that Odin and Zeus are closely matched with Zeus being slightly more "powerful" and somewhat stronger. Zeus' strength has been shown to be just under his son's, Hercules, who is a match for Thor. But it's not always strength that wins a fight. In that regard I'd say the Odin and Zeus are pretty much evenly matched, with whomever gets "lucky" and/or out smarts the other. My money's on Zeus.
Zeus is so strong he flicked too hard not knowing his own strength.
where do you get your power scaling from?
these marvel movies portray the super heroes as severely underpowered
From what we've seen in the trailer and based on what we've seen from Waititi and his handling of characters in Thor 3, I think we can assume that Zeus will be a joke and easily be defeated by Gorr. Also, I think we'll see a lot of female empowerment in the movie, Valkyrie (who's even seen to battle Gorr with Zeus' lightningbolt) and/or "female Thor" (claiming that it is her first bad guy, probably talking about Gorr as I don't see a reason why she should talk about Zeus oder another character from the Greek pantheon) finally be the characters to beat Gorr.
Very lame If this is the case
Well, Dormamo stated that Zeus and Odin were equals in terms of Power.
However, I believe that Odin took the time to be more cunning as he was prophesied to die and Zeus has been said to never “fall to death”.
However I also think Zeus will somehow get murdered for no actual reason other then a laugh, like if he died eating a boat and choked on it.
Where did Dormammo say that?
@@ehanayaanrocks comics, look it up
@@lordbonney9779 what's the name of the comic? And btw, I'm not doubting you,I just want to see the comic where Dormammo interacted with Odin/Zeus/Thor
@@ehanayaanrocks idk I got told about it on Reddit and they had photos of the convo (in the comic). A bunch of other people claim it was real so I kinda just trusted it.
If he can solo Galactic, it's obvious he is powerful.
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Well,Thor has been said to be the most powerful god in the Comics once he inherits the Odinforce as the version of Odinforce he inherits also includes Odin's own power too. so other than the fact he's used to fighting alongside mortals and holding back,i think Thor is atill the most powerful god there is. Also,he now has the ability to channel his elder god powers at will as seen in the current Thor comic which would make him atleast a lower-mid tier elder god in power n that would still put him way above Zeus and Odin.
In the MCU though,i hope they introduce the Odinforce. Would be fun to see Thor alter his size like Khonshu did in MoonKnight and trying to fight off a celestial 🙃
I read somewhere that what was called the Odins power is the complete power of Odin and all the earlier kings of Asgard. So when His father Borr died, Odin inherited the Borr power and so on. If Thor gets the Odins Power he will be insanely powerful. just with his own power, he was one of the most powerful asgardians. And when he inherits the combined power of all of Asgards kings, that will be increased by an unfathomable amount.
@@palmarolavlklingholm9684 The Odinforce has a spark from Bor,Buri and Ymir but it's mostly the lifeforce of Odin's two brothers merged into Odin after they sacrificed themselves so Odin could defeat Surtur. When Odin dies,like his recent death in Thor(2020) #22 , Odin's own power is added to the Odinforce too.
So yea,you are right. Thor is already the most powerful god without the Odinforce but with the complete Odinforce ,he's close to Cosmic level in power but problem i have is that writers always tend to limit him then later just say he's holding back
Your emphasis on Thor's power reminds me of the comics in which Thor defeated Ego, then saved Ego's life by draining Galactus' power and sending him into flight for his life. The problem with such prodigious power levels is that it becomes very difficult to create challenges that make for interesting stories. Superman has had that problem.
@@jeffthompson9622 Yea,i understand that but then again there are characters that shouldn't be a challenge for someone like Thor given all his other unique powers but he seem to just play around until it's too late then he tries to go all out.
I think they should write him well,either create a limiter in specific fights for him or introduce a distraction... That's why i love Amora cos she always either takes away his Asgardian physiology, attack Yggdrasil to weaken him or just go for mind games. These things make sense in a storyline as he'd obviously want to drag out the fight to get her to undo what she did but for most others,he should almost always one-shot most villains even when he's holding back
@@MF_Daniel Yes. But I think a Rune King Thor level Thor wouldn't work well on the big screen. He would be too powerful. he wouldn't even need the infinity stones to snap away a galaxy. Or create one. No one could even hurt him.
Stormbreaker doesnt increase Thors physical stats at all,its just a strong weapon and will never count as Thors power,many of you will disagree but i dont care.
As for Thor its stated he will be stronger than ever in this film,i think that applies even after his training montage and that he will unlock his full potential at the end of the film that being stronger than Odin.
He definetly did not surpass Odin in Ragnarok,first of Odin was talking about his full potential which Thor was only starting to tap in to and he was talking stronger as a PERSON to counter Thor considering physical might the important one.
In the comic fight between Zeus and Thor Zeus was simply toying with him and was seen effortlessly overpowering him several times.He has nearly ACCIDENTALLY killed Hercules who is physically equal to Thor,he beat down Green Scar who is FAR stronger than Base Thor and it was stated he could have vaporized Green Scar in one bolt if he really wanted to.
Zeus in the comics is absolutely always portrayed and stated equal to Odin.
Norse Gods growing stronger with age indefinitely is...a myth.Its true in some universes(like the animated one where Old Thor fought Thanos) but its rarely presented as such.They can increase their powers and get new ones but they dont just get stronger by aging itself.
Odin in the MCU is presented as very powerful but propably past his prime which was propably against Surtur.
We cant tell how strong Zeus will be in the film,it does look like he will be a joke but it may just ne his personality,Odin himself didnt look huge or muscular like in the comics either.
And you have to consider something its RUSSEL CROWE,the guy is always portrayed as a total badass,they even had him kick GENERAL Zods ass even though he was playing a mere scientist.Its obvious he will die but i think he will still be very powerful.Equal to Odin like in the comics?We will have to see
So yeah a terrible video(like,impressively bad) and had to debunk every single "point" in it
Yes he is he gave Hulk a BEATDOWN Odin would NOT do that and Thor HOLDS back in fights against Odin
Marvel needs to make a series of young odin.
Odin would beat Zeus easily Zeus would have to actually put more effort to beat Thor Odin and put Thor down in seconds.
STOP IT! Odin and Zeus are both skyfathers and thus equal--Thor and Hercules are peers and thus equals, so no, Odin doesn't beat Zeus "easily." Hercules beat up on Thor in the series "Blood Oath," and Herc has never beaten his father, so it stands to reason Thor cannot beat Zeus as well.
Zeus doesn't need to eat apples and sleep for a month each year to be immortal
@@thebeast9606 odin stomps zeus wym equal lmfao. thor and hercules are not equals, base thor scales below base herc. the only time thor scales above him is when hes amped like ckt or rkt
@@bhnjmk8898 no, you are wrong if ypu think Hercules could ever beat Thor. Maybe 1 out of 10 but Hercules has no magic, can't fly and is a demi god. Sorry but Thor destroys him high difficulty.
@@bryantfields2410 base thor barely scales above planetary and hes slow af fym
Thor has not surpassed Odin or Zeus, asgardians get stronger with age, it’s possible for it to happen. But Odin slaps the head of Zeus 99 times out of 100
I doubt it because if you wanna bring up comics, Zeus is a skyfather level being along with Odin and Odin has specifically stated that Zeus was equal in power to himself. MCU Zeus might be on the same level as MCU Odin.
Yeah, Thor isn't gonna be "God-King of a Pantheon" levels of OP till much later tbh. I hate how people are all seeing Zeus as just some gimmick. If Gorr kills him with no effort, or if Thor fights him and gives him any kind of major trouble whatsoever... I'll he disappointed.
Don't want the Greek Pantheon to be taken out like some discount Avengers with no Plot Armor
Wrong, Odin said that Thor was stronger than him (even if that shit film, Thor 3 made him still loose against Hela)
ODIN's cunning & wisdom help him defeat Zeus 8/10 times at least
Stop it… Zeus is the god of all of gods and Can & will beat Odin 6 out of 10
Marvel mostly focused on Norse Mythology instead of Greek Mythology. Now by introducing Zeus they are shifting their focus towards the latter.
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A big mistake!!! but hey!!! To each it’s own.
Maybe Thor and Zeus are equals because they both draw power from the same source? If they're both thunder and lightning gods. His enormous advantage over the Hulk could just show his ability to augment his own strength with his power over his elements. A product of his mastery of lightning, not his actual physical prowess. We've seen Thor augment his attacks with lightning and have a greater effect than hitting with his hands, so this is pretty constant, imo.
For me personally I hate how goofy he is. But it’s a Thor MCU movie so I’ll let it slide since that’s what made thor great. I didn’t really care for him till thor 3 so.
Nah Thor 3 was shit, MCU Thor Odinson was gr8t in Thor 1, only
My guess is that Odin is most powerful. The ancient Egyption gods ruled first, but were overpowered by the Greek gods, who in turn were conquered by the Norse gods. Hence the chronological explanation in irl timeline. The Egyption gods probably don't want to expose themselves not to humans, but to other myth gods.
Unless Marvel has done some serious retconning, the Heliopolitians (Egyptian gods.) dwafed the Asgardians and Olympians in power and chose to deal themselves away from the mortal world because they could so easily destroy it. I mean Ra's dark aspect IS the god eater.
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Reeeally???? No!!! Get your studies right bro!!! Forget this portrayal Zeus and imagine the one displayed in the clash of the Titans movie. Thor would seem like a shrimp compared to Zeus and the Greek gods, in myth Thor might have some problems dealing with Hades, a god Zeus himself banished. There is no comparisons with Zeus, for Greek myth is even richer and better than Norse, that’s a fact, I know, I created my own universe inspired by Greek myth. I had to leave it due to beliefs and convictions, but it’s true.
Comic Zeus was too OP
I thought the first pic you showed of Zues was
grizzly adams , not Russel Crowe