Buying a RV? Used vs New
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- A lot of choices discussed here and the thing is this, It comes down to what personally works for you and your budget. I wanted to make some points and considerations on why we usually try to go with used RV's and the issues of buying new..
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As a former owner of several RV's, (one pop-up bought used, one travel trailer bought new), I found your presentation very true and valuable to anyone looking to get into an RV. I went into both units looking at it much like the purchase of a new pool table or swimming pool. You may get a ton of use out of it, but odds are 9 times out of ten that it may get used a lot at first, then not at all after awhile for many. Kids interests change, hobbies change, life happens. Depreciation on new is crazy. I generally don't consider new better than used as far as RV's are concerned. Also consider that with many units you are basically dealing with all the systems of contained in a home, only built much lighter and cheaper. They all need love on a regular basis.
It's so appealing to buy new, but I've heard so many horror stories from friends about their experience in dealing with their warranties and with the dealership. You make a very good point that when buying used, you have the power to shop around and find the right person for the job.
Recently purchased a clean used class c 2001 Lazy Daze 27'. We drove it from Calf to Va. with no problem. Negotiated price as we knew it would need tires/brakes. Well built unit with many options. Now in FLA. for the winter figured we saved 50k buying a used clean RV. Great video thanks.
I've seen to many people leave there new RV in the shop for months. Buy used and be ready to fix it. Buy used and cheap and go over the thing with a fine tooth comb and fix it yourself.
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I have friends who bought new Jayco trailer last year. 6 months later I founf out they won't take it off paved roads because all the screws come loose.
What's the point of having it ? #SMH
Anyone heard if loctite?
I'm sure they spent over $30k.
yeah. why pay someone to "mess" it up when yo can "mess" it up yourself ;-)
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3 yrs ago we bought a new truck and a 2003 5th wheel. Apparently it had always been stored inside a building. Yay for us, outside perfect, inside perfect! Only had to replace the water pump. This year was a doozy! New fridge, repair furnace, went on vacation and had storm damage. Put a new awning on a week before we left and the wind ripped the rod off while we were driving. It also damaged a window. Couldn't do anything about all that until bwe came home a month later!
I am new to RV life, am looking for a used high quality travel trailer with an all weather package that I can use to live full time. I am retiring & am going back to Bend, Oregon to be near my son. Will be parked at a nice campground year round & it snows there. Is there a brand that you think holds up well & do you have any advice?
Best RV tips on Utube You did an excellent job!
Just stumbled upon this video. Loved it! I'm in the market. Doing my research. The best thing my husband and I ever did was to rent a camper. We rented what we THOUGHT we wanted. Turns out, we dodged a bullet by not rushing out to buy. We would have purchased an over priced camper that absolutely made us ill by the end of the first day of use. Thanks for all your tips!
Awesome. Good luck with your search..
One of the absolute best videos I have ever seen! Great information and presentation. Warranties are written to limit the liability of the manufacturer. Sometimes the buyer is better protected under the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) than under any manufacturer's warranty.
James Dion Best video I have seen also. I wanted new. My husband wants used so after watching this I guess I’ll agree now to gently used.
Excellent video, and I hope many first time RV buyers get a chance to see it. Back in 2010 my wife and I bought a new 29 foot travel trailer from a reputable local dealer. We walked in to the dealership looking for the most trailer my truck would tow safely. They did not try to sell me more RV than my truck could handle. We only experienced very minor repair needs over the 8 years we owned it. Sure, we took it in for routine brakes and bearings service. I was fortunate to be able to store it inside my shop so it remained pristine as far as the roof and paint. After using our travel trailer 5 to 6 times each year, we experienced all the the things we would want in our next RV. So we traded in our travel trailer on a new 2018 5th wheel after I had purchased a new bigger 2017 RAM 3500 tow vehicle. Our experience in RV'ing for 8 years, we knew what we wanted in our next RV purchase. You are correct, everyone should buy a used RV to start, get used to it, and then plan on the one you really want, then buy new as we did. We are very happy with our new Montana 5th wheel.
I was looking for a travel trailer for a hunting cabin and somebody at my church told me that they had one for sale for 1700 bucks so I figured I'd go look at it this thing was a late 70s model and it had the full 70s floral print and look to it on the interior but it was garage kept only used a handful of times and this thing looked time-warped from 1978 it was a heavy trailer but I only had to pull it once and it's been a great little hunting cabin ever since
We were going to buy a Travel trailer online from dealer in Hamilton, OH. Told our payment to get paperwork going of $500 was refundable. Not told that only when financing was obtained and papers signed. Company had BBB of A-, should have been an, " F "! The salesmen was very nasty to me. Didn't find the upset customers reviews til after we paid the down payment. Nasty sale person, half truths, online papers different then what was told. Also they wanted Power of Attorney papers signed. CANCELLED - the whole thing within 3 days. Told we wouldn't get $500 back. Very upset consumer, warn others.
What dealership was it? Sounds like something Altman's Winnebago would do! Power of Attorney? Wow that's just crazy! Good thing you walked away!
I have a 1990 Safari Serengeti (Monaco) Class A. Paid for, bought used for $12k. A friend of mine owns an RV dealership and he said he would've sold it to me for 20k. He also went on to tell me that never sell it because the newer ones aren't built like the Monacos unless you go Prevost or higher end. Went on to tell me that it's a straight up engine, no computers or choked down by emission controls. Yes, it's older but boondocking and fulltiming much more feasible with no payments.
Great video! lots of useful info and tips.
When my wife and I were looking to upgrade from a tent to something a bit more comfortable we bought a small trailer. As you suggest, We did buy used but with a set of criteria, including size, weight, a bed that did not do double duty as a dinner table, and no slides as we have lots of negatives about them, etc.) we found exactly what we were looking for and at a reasonable price. Since that time, we have decide we need a more powerful tow vehicle ( our current vehicle does ok for local trips but would be severely taxed on the highway). We.also decided to expand our requirements to include a walk-around bed, a larger bathroom, and we would now be amenable to a slide, (if a slide cover were added) our biggest concern to date has been ground clearance of the black and gray tank drains as we do most of our camping off grid in rugged terrain. Something else to consider.
This is a long way of saying, think about what you want/need before jumping into the rv world. You just may save yourself some time and possibly some grief.
My hubby's friend recently purchased a new travel trailer. He didn't make it fifty miles out of town when the awning fell off the trailer. He took it back to the dealer. They told him there were 240 repairs ahead of him...SERIOUSLY??? THAT confirms the kind of crap manufacturers are producing.
That's crazy!
Depends the time of year. Late spring bthru summer are the worst time for service because families are going non vacation.
my wife and i are about to go looking for an RV for the first time. I was really trying to talk my wife into new, after this vid, i think were going to look for used. Great information i haven't thought about. thank you so much for the info.
This is old but my God you weren’t kidding when you said you can fix anything! I’ve been watching this channel for awhile now I’ve seen you fix it all! The majority of us only wish we had that talent.
Yes. We are a good team for sure. Getting things done!!
I worker as a camper repair man one summer and the biggest vacation spoiler was things like brakes, bearings and even the axel. Proper maintenance can be invaluable. Often people would add too much grease when greasing the bearings.
This is a very helpful video man.. I'm glad I watch this video b4 buying an rv.. thanks 🙏 for sharing 👍👍👍👍
Great vid! I always buy used cars coming off a lease with lowest miles, and still has some warranty left. Tires, brakes, and shocks are the most worn but never warranted anyway.
The leaser paid big $$$$ to drive the
car...and I get a deal. So I have bought a used trailer, fully loaded, and well maintained. I'm ok with that kind of history!
Good info, buying a new one is but a dream. I bought a 50 year old trailer and becoming an expert on fixing it. I was severely naive, but it will be sweet when it's done.
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Excellent information. I have always purchased new vehicles and now thanks to this I am very torn. The problem is that I know absolutely nothing about vehicle maintenance and despite having 3 "how-to-fix" books in my house, I still have to call in professionals every single time to fix my attempts to fix (but hey ... I do try, I just suck at it).
Great video. What I liked the most was that you said "IF YOU LIKE IT, CLICK LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE" instead of like so many who OPEN by telling the viewer to Like and Subscribe.
IF the RV came from the factory with an island and the manufacturer wants to force me to pay to remove it so the fridge can be replaced "under warranty", IMO that is crooked as hell. If I added it after the sale, then sure. I caused the extra worked required to do the warranty repair.
You probably could have summed up warranties like this: Warranties are meant to cover items for a period of time where the the items are unlikely to need costly or significant repairs in the first place. Warranties are also written by lawyers in order to limit their liabilities & maximize their profits .. Warranties are about fine print; that should be fair enough warning. It's a contract written in THEIR favor ! Warranties are the bread and butter of sales people; they love selling warranties because they know they make fistfuls of money, while their liability is quite limited.. I've seen general managers try to more than double the payments with warranties alone ( on normal vehicles); better to just walk away... Warranties, especially extended warranties are more about being a scam than protecting you or your investment.
Warranties are over-rated, especially any sort of add-on warranties. You're better off pocketing the difference and either repairing it yourself, or handling the costs by yourself. Ask yourself how much you are paying for the warranty vs how much you are likely to recoup ( not how much the sales guy says you might recoup ), and that analysis will always end with the answer pointing to "it's not worth it". When you buy new, part of that extra cost, that depreciation that happens when you walk out of the door, is your warranty.. When you buy a new vehicle, you are paying for both a new vehicle and a warranty (at an included price) that you won't likely use, or what you pay for it will be far greater than what you actually get to use it for...
I bought a new model year 2000 Jayco Eagle travel trailer in May of 2001. I negotiated a whale of a deal on it. I think they wanted to get it off their inventory and were willing to make significant concessions to close the deal. The first time we used it, I found the bathroom mirror on the floor with the adhesive still on the back but not squashed as it should have been. Instead of taking it back to the dealer, i measured the door still on the medicine cabinet, went to a picture frame shop, and had them make a frame to that size with a new mirror in it. Screwing that frame to the door from the back has made it secure for seventeen years and lots of travel now. All the drawers were just stapled together, so I went to every one and screwed them together and I have not had the usual problem of them falling apart. The refrigerator went out but not until it was over ten years old. This one has many features I would not have paid for if I were specking out a new one. Examples: spark self lighting hot water heater, spark self lighting furnace, automatic change over electric to spark self lighting gas and back again refrigerator, tub in the shower, etcetera. I almost always buy used, but in this case, buying a full featured year old RV the dealer wanted to get off his inventory really paid off. I have NO fixed answer to new versus used!! See what is out there and grab the best deal with no preconceived decisions!! At least that is what I tell people that ask me!!
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Here's a fixed answer many jayco owners will tell you...don't buy a jayco!!
This is the 3rd video on what to look for when buying a used...each has something different ..amazing..great stuff..enjoyed this, and great presentation
Thanks!!
I thought this was a sensible viewpoint. We're FT residentials living on acreage. We lived in a quite old RV for 5 years and learned a LOT about what we did and didn't want to live with and also about repairs. We looked at and nearly bought a brand new destination trailer as a result. At the same time, we put an ISO post out. Turns out that someone living a few miles away had inherited her father's Keystone Montana 5th wheel and after paying storage for 2 years saw our ISO ad and sold it to us for a song. It had every feature and floorplan item we could've wanted, and 3 months in, with some very minor this & that's we knew of when we purchased it, it has been the best purchase we ever made
Good info. We bought our first TT used and it looked good, but I knew it needed some TLC. What I didn't know was how much and how well the seller hid these issues. We got a couple years of use, but by the time I was actually able to start addressing the issues, it was going to be a money pit. I cut my losses and basically sold it for scrap. I just bought a new TT and I will gladly take the hit on depreciation knowing that I am responsible for all the history and can just hook up and go. Either way, great video.
Speaking from someone that has bought new and used RVS I would agree buying a good used one is much better then buying new, The fifthwheel I have now I got a very good deal on and five years later it is still worth more then I paid for it. Like you I have the skills and knowledge to work on it myself, so buying a new one again is not a good choice for me. Very good video, thank you.
I purchased a used 2013 crossroads Z1-301 bh. Used last week, it is in very good to excellent condition, everything works as of today. I looked at new, and wanted a warranty but with all the issues with length of repair work, and it takes 4-6 months to repair ( I live in Winnipeg, Canada) so we have maybe end of may to September/October to use, it eats up our summer to wait. ( I have a friend who waited months) to fix. News nice, but I’m happy with savings thus far over new cost
Great purchase! One reason not to buy new but each to their own.. Repair shops never seem to be in a hurry. Thanks for following along!
Not many people know about date codes on tires.
enjoyed listening to your blog. Am a handyman myself. Own a used 2004 wilderness advantage 5th wheel. Done some work and cleaning, but now all is fixed. Anyway if you ever get to the seattle area holler out. Have a nice place for you to park.
Ted Thurlby Thank you Sir, We Will definitely remember your generous offer when we head that way!👍😁
I just bought used. I know this much. They are way to expensive new .Such depreciation, it’s crazy. I’m happy I did this.
Enjoy and safe travels!!
This is an outstanding video with very valuable information! Thank you! You've helped to clarify my thinking on the subject. I'm definitely a "used" RV person.
Cathryn Wagner Thanks
Your loss the first year is 20 to 25% on a new unit depending on how good of a deal you got when you bought it. If you found a new unit that was 50,000 and its a left over no one wanted and you got it for 37,500 well you saved 12,500 which is 25% off so your thinking great i will have good resale after a year,.... Wrong,... you just bought a unit no one wanted and you will have the same problem when you resell it.
I think it's good to try to find one that is just a few years old if it's been taken care of.
You’re so right. If the trailer is well maintained the previous owner has probably fixed many things & upgraded. Depends on owner’s care & maintenance, but I am buying used!
The depreciation gets worse and worse so it depends on if you want to keep it forever or you hope to sell it. I'd say if you hope to sell then yes the 2-4 year window is the best. However, if you're going to keep it forever the 5-8 year window is perfect.
In 2012,we bought a 2008 F250 with a 2000 Hitchhiker 5th wheel together from an elderly gentleman that tinkered and babied them for the time he owned them. Bought them together for $40k in pristine condition. Decided in 2016 to sell them both (27k)and get a gently used Thor Vegas motor home. I think we did well on those deals.
Thanks for your video! I’m a used RV person and my husband is pushing for a new one, so I’m going to show him your video, it’s very good.
Thanks for watching!! Even though we still look at new ones, we definitely are on the lookout still for used! 😁
We were going the used route and went into Camping World one day to see a used Class A that had the unusual antiqued white cabinets. We loved it and for whatever reason went into a few of the new RV's parked nearby. Well, hubby liked the year old RV that had 54 miles on it with 1 1/2 baths. He told the guy, if you put a king bed back there, we'll take it. He said it could be done, so SOLD! It took 3 months to change out the beds and we were told later, it wasn't as easy as they thought it would be. LOL We paid cash and maybe that's what help us in the long run. These people were really nice to us. We had it back in for several fixes, be it a leaking sink drain to a cracked mirror to the windshield shade motor not working to a funny acting slide. They fixed it all and put new tires on the RV when we bought it. We did get the extended warranty and have had many other things repaired since. We haven't had a bit of trouble with the motor, or appliances. But last year, a couple odd things happened, but we noticed that the solar charge light wasn't lit that kept the house batteries charged. There were outlet that didn't work and several other weird things and it all came down to the mother board!!! OMG!!! We fiddled and played with all types of things to get some of the things to work. That was replaced under warranty. So far we have been lucky. Now, we have had to pay for things that hubby broke or ruined in haste. That we expected.
One thing I recently ran across was a website that you can enter your type of RV and you get a quote of it's value if you are wanting to sell. I entered our info and got a quote. I wish I could remember the name of the site of knew if there are other places to check. Our RV is a 2011 that we bought in 2012. It was new and we paid close to $150,000 for it. The site quoted it was now worth $173,000. I don't know if the market is that good now, of if we got a good deal to start off, but I was shocked and would like to look that up again. LOL I often wonder how things would have gone if we bought the used RV we went there to look at in the beginning. Oops! Maybe I shouldn't think about that now. LOL ~Donna
Really glad to hear your good fortune dealing with a dealer on any level, let alone before the purchase,during the purchase and after the sale service.. Makes me feel good about humanity again😁
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Here in norway we are pretty much covered for 5 years state mandatory warranty ,and total warranty for 2-3years, moisture warranty for 5-7years
I've bought a couple of new travel trailers and both had some issues the first 2years, after that when the fabrication faults was repaired they was never much problem with them..if i buy again i will buy some years old..
Ronny Stormo sounds like Norway has a good program in place...
Well in the United States our politicians are paid off in order to appease their constituents. (The Large Corporations) so they can screw the consumer. The citizens just let them do it.
Great for Norway! They care more about safety then profit!❤️
Unless you RV regularly or full-time, there are RV rental services you rent from other RV owners. May be the way to go. Rent and turn back in. No insurance, no loan payments or upkeep.
Definitely a good option for the casual RV'r. I have used Outdoorsy and it was a positive experience, but the flip side of the coin is; pickup/dropoff can be a hassle and it's not "cheap". If you don't have storage at your home it's definitely the better option in my opinion.
I like your logic, I’d been boater for 40 years and the principles you are talking about on your video are almost the same, depreciation is a killer for sure, I’m a DIY person so Used works for me, also it won’t be a full time for me, so just for a couple of vacations every year I can’t justify to pay top dollar for it either. I also like your point about someone already worked the bugs out for you...thank you!
It has been a few years since I full time RV'd...but when I last was on the road most RV parks would not rent a slip to a person who's outfit was 10 yrs old or more...I dunno if it's still that way or not...but It might be something to think about..I plan to be on the road again soon...this time I have a van and it's a 2010...I'll find out about this then I'm sure
I heard some casinos and high end RV Parks do still
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Good info,Bought new and used, have had to work on both the sick thing was the newest most expensive trailer was the worse with water leak on roof.Brought back to dealer that had to get approval from the manufactorer, i used it once it sat for repairs and contacted lawyer for a year.Warranty was a joke, the used ones no warranty and lasted longer without issues.
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Would you mind sharing what type/model/ect...?
Also, did the seller go to bat for you ar did they drag their feet...?
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Good advice but we prefer new because people lie and to sleep and travel in a trailer even 2 to 3 years old is not good for us. We do many like the idea of sleeping on old used mattress toilets and all other stuff . Many RV people have pets and although we have dogs, we never let them In our home and definitely not in our rv trailer like many do. That’s why we prefer new and yes it becomes used the second we take it off the lot but it’s only my family’s coodies:
I would never buy new, good vidio. thanks for your advice
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I like used because most of the bugs are usually worked out. If not, I have no problem getting to know my stuff. That just means I know how to fix it whenever it breaks and you know they always break at the most inopportune times.
very detailed and balanced, good thoughts and arguments for either choice. thumbs up :)
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I found this video EXTREMELY helpful and informative. Thank you!
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Wow, a really informative, soup-to-nuts, overview. Great job. You're "local" to us -- maybe we'll reach out if we ever get to the point where we would buy. Thanks.
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My Wife and i are going to RV full time soon and this vid helped a lot. I cant tell you how many times we have talked about if we should get new or used and this vid helped a lot.
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Wow! lots of great information I was just thinking about buying an RV and I came across your channel I cannot believe how much great information you just gave me thank you.
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Great video. We are looking to retire in 6-8 years with the plan to rv 6 mo of the year. We just purchased a 1998 coachmen 35 DP. It will give us a chance to see if it's a lifestyle that works for us at a low price we could afford to pay cash for. I'm pretty handy and had my own home improvement business so the coach or house maintenance and repairs shouldn't be an issue. One of my sons is a diesel mechanic so I think we have that covered. The only thing I would add to your recommendations is going to one of the big rv shows to look at floor plans. It gives you the opportunity to compare a lot of different manufacturers in one place.
Some RV parks won't let you hook up an old rig. They don't want it to get get stuck there.
We've never owned, or even rented an RV, and are just doing preliminary research with the idea that we *may* go that route in a few years (or maybe sooner). Even then, we'd rent first, to make sure we really like the experience before spending the money on purchase. Thank you for making this video, as "new vs. used" is one of the big decision points, along with A/B/C/5th wheel/trailer. FWIW, of the last eight vehicle purchases we've made, only one was sold as "used", but every single one of them was "used" once we drove it away. It used to be a great idea to buy a car about 3 years old, to have someone else pay the depreciation but still get nearly all the useful life out of it. It seems that enough people have learned that now, so the used car market has adjusted. I wonder how that works with RVs. How does the depreciation curve look, vs. the actual useful life? Our rationale for buying our vehicles "new" was that we generally keep them long enough to justify that initial depreciation, and some of what we get are the sort (sports cars, bikes) that customers tend to abuse a bit. There also, I wonder which types of RVs tend to be babied, or at least properly maintained, vs. which types tend to be abused. I'd hate to be busy congratulating myself on how much I saved by getting something with a few miles on it, only to find out over time just how hard those miles were. Thanks again for the video.
Bruce S great questions. So great, that I am going to most likely address this in a future video. Basically I'm going to give you an answer of how I feel about this topic in all your concerns. Reason being is I think that I can elaborate a little bit more that I can just typing this stuff out. So look forward to that hopefully soon.
Thanks, I look forward to that.
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Bruce S
My wife and I have only purchased one vehicle new...
Our other two are a 1995 Jeep Rio Grande and a Chevy 150
converted van, 2000.
I financed the Jeep and paid cash for the Van.
I have not had to make a car payment for more than 10yrs now...
We just put $600 into our Jeep, the only thing wrong with it is the body
is rusting off of the frame(typical for Jeeps), it sits outside all year and
cranks over within a minute or two...
We also just put $1000 into our Van, this was for a new Drivers side window motor,
new head gaskets, and replaced all break cylinders along with a broken break line...
$1,600 dollars in total.
Did we mind, no, not really.
We’ve gone for several years without putting any money into our vehicles so we cannot complain
about this expenditure and again, having no payments on either vehicle is an influencing factor...!
We’ll keep on driving them until we either purchase our RV or they stop running...
Btw...
When I went to our mechanic to pick up the Jeep he asked me if I would be interested in selling it,
said he had another customer that had saw it while picking up His vehicle and told him to offer me
$2,500 for it...!
I asked if he realized that it only has 170,000 miles on it, he responded that it was the first thing they
both had noticed...
I said that it was just getting broken in and he said yes, we know...😸
Even tho my high school Vocational Auto Shop class (3 periods/day for 2 years '71-73) didn't pan out into a career (rock and roll did) I have saved untold thousands of dollars just from that knowledge and experience. That said, I've been pretty darn lucky in the used car market and you're right about "toys"! I've walked away from vehicles that exhibit serious abuse that only a trained mechanic can find.
But for anybody, its "seat of the pants". You don't have to know vehicles like a professional mechanic to get a feeling about it and I think the same applies to used RVs.
For used private party deals, it's all about the PO (previous owner). In my experience, about 5% of sellers really take care of their cars (to the stealership for everything, on schedule!) so I think they'd be the same about their RVs. Not like my neighbors who left their Shadow Cruiser in the sun for the past few years.
That said -
I'll still need a checklist...
And I would want to know the quality hierarchy of the brands (like cars and boats, or Cadillac vs Chevy) as a shopping guide
re: DIY maintenance and repair
What I learned in high school was "why pay someone to screw it up when you can screw it up yourself!"
Yes I feel the same way about use versing new very well said Brother GOD BLESS YOU MUCH
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Sage advice. Thank you.
I have never purchased a new car, boat or RV. Unfortunately, New has never meant trouble free. Dealers are always harder to negotiate with on new things rather than used “trade-ins”. An individual who want. To sell a used item are always more negotiable and sometimes even desperate. I don’t have the repair skills but I have no problem taking a used item in to be assessed por repaired because I have factored in the cost of repairs.
When fixed up the older campers have more charm and feel homier cuz u customize it to ur liking . I’m looking to get used if we finally decide to live in a camper full time . Can’t afford a tiny house to camper is the next step .
Absolutely making it your own.. Good luck on your search! 😁
@@Rvdaydream thank you.
that question title has an obvious answer doesn't ? We ALL KNOW that once you drive out of the lot, 20% of the price are out of the window and into the dealer's pocket... that is what aggravate people...
on the other hand, paying the new price is also no guarantee it will not be a source of problems......
yes, an enlightening video and discourage everyone :-D
Thanks for putting this together.
The warranty is a hindrance against you to fix things yourself. I paid $8k for a 22 year old HMC class A, it was $110k new. I have had it for 8 years. Still fixing stuff.
Great information - where was this video when I was getting into the lifestyle (lol). For me having an extended warranty has really paid off for the repairs that are unexpected. It is true that becoming more DYI is a good thing. I have learned a great deal over the last year of owning my 2003 Winnebago. Not having a mechanical background, I learned what I needed to learn in order to fix the smaller things that would go wrong. For larger mechanical repairs, I am at the mercy of the repair shop. Given my experience, I would definitely buy used rather than new and work through the issues.
Yes Sir, you are doing it!!! that is the most important thing of all!!! So your short answer for your decisions is, "It's Working For Me !!"
Yea true and I am coming to where you are when I need mechanical repairs. lol
Ah Patrick. Maybe he will be on the road by then and can come to you! LOL
Always welcomed Partner!!
1st rv we bought used. Low miles and not used very much. ok deal at dealership. Just bought a new one. On the lot a year. Got it at low NADA retail. Did not want to buy new but could not find the floor plan we liked and we were tired of living in our 1st rv (class b 2 people). This rv is going to stay on our rv site and not be moved. We will be traveling in our class b.
The difference between what a person pays for a new RV and what it is worth once it leaves the lot primarily includes profit to the seller not depreciation; unless the RV is roughed up pretty bad shortly after it is purchased.
If a person pays too much profit on the front end; then it becomes hard to recover most of the acquisition costs since an RV is a depreciating asset.
Just like anything else you buy 😁
Greetings from Niles Oh. Love the West Branch T-shirt. I’ve heard great things about it, and I’m hoping to stay there before the season is over. I’m an RV newbie. Because of this video I purchased a $3500 travel trailer before I bought a new one. This way I could see how much my family would actually use it. We’ve had it for a little over a month, and used it 3 times locally, and just got back from a week in Ocean City MD with it. It’s needed some minor work done to it, but overall it’s been a great rig. Love the video. Very informative.
Hello Niles, that is great to hear. I love whenever we get feedback like this in comments that something that we talked about or shown makes a difference. A lot of times whenever we're doing the videos we just don't know who we connect with or if we're connecting at all. It's funny because the same reason that I got into the mode of wanting to full-time RV was because of a CZcams video. And then after talking it over with my wife quite a bit she came to the same realization that I did. But choosing an RV that's always a big step. I know that I might be a bit biased about which RV is the best but I really do think that for most people a travel trailer is probably the easiest thing to start with. Good luck with your future travels! And thanks for the feedback!
No payments is my thing, when possible.
Just saw this video and subscribed. Trying to decide should I buy a used RV, School Bus or Transit bus. Been looking at videos and this video was a huge help. I'd have to pay for all of the renovations on a transit or school and find someone to do the work. Thanks for this video!
Extended warranties are horrible! They are sold by the dealership for a huge mark-up from what you could have bought from the warranty company yourself. The 1st thing you need to do is before you take it home or as soon as you get it home is get it WET. Take it to a carwash for RV's or use a garden hose and soak it down. Check the roof, windows, doors, vents, etc. I bought a pre-owned Gulf Stream Sunstream class A. I found out the entire seal around the windshield leaked all the way across the front top seal and created a waterfall across the entire dashboard. So check for leaks everywhere you can get too. If possible do it on the lot before you agree to sign off on the purchase. If they refuse start to walk away and they will do it for you. They don't want to loose the sale.
The other advice I can give you is DON'T buy anythingfrom fr Altman's Winnebago in California.
The service is horrible!
This video helped me a lot, me and my family are going to be full timers and weren’t sure which to go with, thank you!!
Jeffrey Ishmael 👍😁
Thank you so much for your knowledge and thoughts. I am a diy person but dont have a lot of mechanical experience BUT I can learn.
Becky Collett 👍😁
We may to buy a rv because I may take a job for a road crew. Never had a camper before, you did address questions I didn’t know I needed to know.
This is very helpful. I have looked at new but keep leaning to used. Need to live in until we get a house built. Hope to retire in a couple years. Work remote as long as I have internet. Wife, cat and dog will be together. Looking for 24 to 27 foot. 1/2 ton towable. Very few available but there are some. Thanks for your insight.
Thanks. You helped me discover I’m a used person. Lol
Just a thought but if you are going to buy new and live in it. I think it may be a good Idea to live in it for maybe 6 mos at your'e home base
(close to the dealer) just to work out any problems the RV may have. Just so you can get it fixed before going full time on the road. Maybe take it on short road trips with in at 6 mos. Just a thought. Thanks for the great info.
K. Dogg excellent point! I might have to share that bit of information with my viewers (if you don't mind) in a future video. It's a good thought. Especially since some of the RV dealers like lazy days in Tampa have RV parks attached to them. Great idea!
sure thing . do share
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Most municipalities and alot of counties prohibit you living in your rv at HOME even if you're doing repair work OR building a house. You have to have it SHUTTERED or they will fine you even throw you in jail. Homeowners might cancel on you. Always BUSY BODY/Neighborhood Nazis around with nothing but idle minds and hands to turn you in. Some places, there's not even a law OR ordinance prohibiting something. All the inspector needs is "there's been a complaint". In those cases, you can probably FOIA who signed the complaint and SUE them BUT the problem isn't your RV, it is do you want to live in such a neighborhood with such evil people anyway?. Sell your home, save your money, and RENT somewhere else. IF you find out you can't get along anywhere the problem is staring at you in the mirror.
Thank You for knocking the rust off me. You got me really thinking 🤔 now. God bless and Have a Happy Easter. Jw Mississippi Outpost.
Great advice! Thanks so much! I'm thinking about buying a used RV.
I've owned a couple or used RV's. Nothing but trouble. Leaks, fridge and water heater replaced. Rotting floors. And other things. Just bought a 2020 Viking 9.0TD off road small popup with everything in it. I too am a diy guy. The unit is small enough (for 2 people) to fix whatever is needed. This unit is being built in March 2020 . I have a 2019 Ram 1500 4X4. Will be going to abandoned towns and Crown Land in Ontario. Better than a teardrop. You can actually stand up in it. The trouble with anything you buy is that they are made by men and women and men and women are imperfect.
Yeah we own a 2020 Rockwood and a 2019 F250 😁
@@Rvdaydream I don' need living room furniture, big screen tv and a flush toilet and shower. I have those at home.
Well thats awesome so do we, we get those also in our new rv... And when we hit the road its just nice to have a flush toilet while boondocking etc. Have a great week😁👍
@@Rvdaydream We do off road wilderness camping. Just the basics. I still have the hookups if we use a campground. The beauty or rving is that you can buy from a wide assortment of models to suit your camping lifestyle. I live in Ottawa, Canada. So my frost free camping starts in April. The unit I bought will be delivered in April. They had one on the lot but like all the other trailers there was a few inches of ice and of course snow. Mine will be wintered in my garage. Your comments are appreciated!
Great great video! Love the wise advice and your positive attitude about both sides! I just subscribed! I think I'm like you in that I prefer to fix things myself (knowing it's done correctly) and my expectations of a new RV are too high and never met!😏 In my opinion, I don't really recommend RVing if you're not fairly handy... stuff is going to go wrong (and it often happens during the night, on holidays, etc) so you're gonna have to figure out how to fix it at least temporarily! I'm currently looking for a small half ton towable fifth wheel but my parameters are a little too specific so I may be looking for a while! Thanks again and God bless!
Thanks for subbing and following along 😁👍
Unless you A) Buy a vintage trailer and B) Have the tools, skills and work area to restore said trailer, unless that used RV is only a year or two old, you really don't want it. As we all know, RV's dont last forever and are kind of built to last only about 10 years. Buying a 8-10 year old RV, you are likely going to be dealing with roof replacement, awning replacement, seals etc and then things like brakes and bearings are certainly of concern. The systems like HVAC and Fridge are also subject.
For instance, I bought a 2005 Laredo in 2008. It had hidden damage that was not apparent for the first few months because the unit had at onetime had a leak, the owner or dealer fixed it and it seemed okay. It actually never leaked for me either...but the damage was done. The front curved wall eventually started to de-laminate until it completely separated and it flexed with the wind when I towed it. If one did not have the where with all to fix it themselves, that would be a 6-8 thousand dollar job. I decided to let it go since the sides on both sides started to do the same I guess from the same leaks. One year later I had a flexy rig. So yeah, I saved some money buying a slightly used rig but at the end of the day I could not give it away.....
Now I know there are people such as yourself that have zero issue tackling a restoration, but most RV'ers can not, so yes you can save money but it is like buying a "Fixer Upper". You better be ready to spend some time on and money on it to get it right.
RV'n in North Carolina You always need to either do a complete inspection (can get tech checklist online) - gotta touch, feel and check everything!
Great video ! I’ve been looking to buy an rv for a few months and on The fence between new and used. Your video was very helpful thank you!
Cynthia Concordia thanks for watching, hope you find the one... 👍😁
Thanks for the video. I've been looking to buy a travel trailer to live in. I think you gave me an answer. I'm more of the guy to work n things myself. Plus I got a friend that is a construction worker. Builds houses for example. I'll look to buy a used trailer.
Awesome!! Thanks for watching! 😁👍
Outstanding advice, thank you!
I bought new but got a really good deal. Such a good deal I could probably sell it and make money... Closed down camping world trying to move last years models for cheap.
rv is car plus tiny house, always lots maintenance ,repair. I do differently,throwing a full size comfortable IKEA bed with all new bedding pillow in service Van, enjoying good night sleep, no any problem at all.
Enjoyed your youtube ch
I bought a class A motorhome some years ago. Paid $8000 Had it for about 3 years and sold it for $8000. I did do some work on it, but I did enjoy working on it. I am a DIY type.
A question is I'm trying to figure out how to make a line of curve (graph) as to the year of RV the miles, the depreciation, to figure out a good time to buy a unit. Hopefully at the best price.
Thank you for your youtube post RVdaydream.
I learned a lot.
I liked the video, I subscribed to the channel, very elocuente, he sure knows what he is taking about and has this way of explaining it that it is easy to understand and easy to listen to, very impressed and will be checking out some of the other videos. I am trying to buy an used travel trailer RV and stumbled into this channel, thank God. I am not planning on traveling, just want to park it in the city I work which is a three hour commute from where my house is, so a secondary residence. I feel so overwhelmed, so much to know and I do not want to make an expensive mistake. So any help I could get is well appreciated.
We luck out finding an 19ft 2010 KZ Sportsmen such a great deal less than 10 years old
Awesome info! Very helpful considerations that you discussed in detail.
Thanks for putting it online!
Problem I'm having right now is finding a used one that doesn't make me want to run away. Obvious water damage in some, damaged window seals in others, and the smell of some of these used units are horrific. My son opened a bathroom door on one and the smell that filled the room was a nightmare. That one was in a dealers lot.
Yes water damage is the worst.. Definitely sound like you know what to look for.
great video the wife and I are in our 50s and looking to purchase our first travel trailer to get out of the Arizona heat in the summer and go up in the mountains 4 for 5 days at a time. This was a big help we are planning on buying used so I'll be looking at the rest of your videos thanks again
Thanks for following along!!
Thank you! that was very informative. My wife and I are looking to buying a used Towable RV this winter, we are new to RV's and we are looking forward to our family travels.
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replies are A + grade!
Hello! Glad I accidentally found your channel. You have some common sense suggestions. I liked and subscribed. I will be watching more of your videos. You present things very well. I'm not ready to make the plunge, but I am starting to learn. There are a couple I like, but since so many people are buying them this year, it might be smart to wait until next year, as they might decide camping isn't for them or they may like it want want to upgrade. Anyway, there's lots to think about. I want this virus thing to be over so I can get out and look at these trailers in person. Thanks again for what you do. Be well. Greg in TN
Welcome aboard Greg! As far as waiting to buy the only thing to consider is maybe the Time of the Season in the year. Usually in the fall people who are not going to full-time but are weekend campers, start looking for Storage Solutions to get them through winter and instead of paying for storage all winter think about selling their rigs. So I would think around October is when I would shop for an RV. And that continues until roughly December. After the new year starts January is when people start thinking about how nice it would be to go camping and their interest in RV start to Peak. The seller's advantage over a buyer definitely starts ramping up in February and into May. The season really Peaks between Memorial Day and Father's Day. So I don't think that I would even consider buying a RV between the months of February and Fourth of July. As far as new RVs some of the RV shows can be rewarding as some limited time deals are offered from but dealers and the manufacturers. If you're thinking about new the best RV show that you possibly could attend would be the one in Hershey Pennsylvania it is so big that it takes days to go through all the RVs. But of course we prefer the stick local dealers so that we can build a relationship as there's always something that will eventually need to be fixed and being close to the dealer that you purchased from is always a bonus. Still oh, the Hershey PA show is incredible. Unfortunately this year it has been canceled because of covid-19. It sounds as if though you're leaning towards the used Market so to rehash, start looking for used RVs in late August until December for the best deals from people who are not wanting to store their RV for the winter and stay away from the peak months as everybody is scrambling trying to gather up something to go camping with for the summer holidays. The RV industry is experiencing growth that is unprecedented. The campgrounds are getting extremely hard get reservations at. This growth has been happening year after year for roughly the past 6 years and with this covid-19 outbreak has caused a lot of people that would normally go on cruises or stay in a hotel for a week 2 instead look to go camping in the outdoors so that they can distance themselves causing even more of a ride in the amount of rvers that are out there. Good luck
Well informed video, gives us something to think about before buying and what to buy. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for this very informative video. I'm considering buying an RV and only thought about a new one. Now I got a lot to consider
Outdoorsman2b 👍😁
Unless your wealthy used is the most affordable. With that said when you buy used you need to make sure your getting one that is mechanically sound and get the history. No history walk away (unless your that desperate). Like the man said if your not mechanical take someone with you who is to help you inspect the rig (I would take someone just to get a second opinion and to have a second pair of eyes). There are pluses and minuses to both sides (new or used) only you know what you need and can afford. I wish you good hunting.
Also look at the more common and open the floor (maybe without slides, personal can be fit and find parts anywhere) the essay it can be kept running
I'm in agreement with you about buy new or used RV. I would buy a used one. Thanks for the information is was very helpful.
You Got it!! Thanks for Watching!!
I believe some warranties are voided if the RV is lived in full time.
Extremely good point...Totally forgot about that one.. Ah, yes, yet another fine print moment!!
How do they know if you are living on it?
Exactly. One would have to go all stupid and "confess".
THAT is just ridiculous considering how much dealers rip customers off for this kind of unit.
Ka Z, DON'T TELL THEM YOU ARE FULL TIMING