More interesting 880 facts: it used to be CA-17 all the way from Santa Cruz and even along the 580 alignment to San Rafael across the Richmond-SR Bridge. I-880 was the original designation of what is NOW I-80 going north around Sacramento. The current Business 80/Cap City Fwy was numbered as I-80. Eventually they had to remove the interstate designation as it was not up to interstate standards (except the US 50 part, which is actually unsigned I-305) ...so they made the northern beltline fwy I-80, and gave the I-880 designation to the Nimitz Fwy. ...also the interchange with 101 is HORRENDOUS
That interchange is the worst one in the bay area, definitely a 1950's relic. I remember 880 used to be 2 lanes each way coming out from this interchange and was one of the worst bottlenecks until about CA-237.
In 1984, the renumbering happened as CA 17 shortens between Santa Cruz and San Jose. The 880 was introduced between San Jose and Oakland while the 580 extends from Oakland to San Rafael.
😮 Funny you do the 880 this week, I just started exploring the 880 in American Truck Simulator by SCS Software. It's all new territory as this is part of the 1.50 update which included a reworking of the Bay Area to bring the state of California up to their modern map making style. Yes, it's condensed given the scale of the map and for the game, but, driving on the new roads look great!
I-880 CA sure is definitely one of the busiest freeways in Alameda County, especially for truckers. I have to agree to sign Oakland to the north and San Jose to the south. By the way, for truckers travelling between MacArthur Maze and the Tri-Valley area of Alameda County, you can't use a portion of the 580 between Oakland and Castro Valley, but you can use the 880 and take the 238 to the 580.
About the exit to OAK Airport, recently, after a voting of changing its name, the name change has been official as San Francisco Bay Oakland Int'l Airport. The Government of San Francisco sued the Port of Oakland for the name change, even though SFO isn't in San Francisco's city limits but in an unincorporated area of San Mateo County and the name change infringes the SFO trademark. The name change will help OAK be more recognized as an alternate airport when you fly to the Bay Area.
@@ControlCityFreak, exactly. The name change was back to the former name in 2016, even though they stayed in Anaheim in Orange County since 1966. The final official name change happened to recognize the Angels as the L.A. Angels, and yes, they are in Greater L.A.'s MSA since both L.A. and Orange Counties form that MSA and region of California.
Appreciate the love in this video. That Mission Blvd exit that you can get to 680 is a very long road stretching from Milpitas to Hayward which you can turn on to either Harder Road or Carlos Bee Blvd to get to my now Alma Mater at CSUEB.
This reminded me of all of them times I took US 101 from San Jose down to Oxnard. Pretty great ride. I'm sure US 101 is on your list. My knee jerk was you just stay on US 101 to L.A. but thought about it a little bit and remember many times taking CA 152 from Gilroy over to I-5. Another pretty drive but some pretty steep hills
The first time I drove from the Bay to LA I took PCH. So 101 to Salinas or so, then PCH, then 101 from SLO to Hollywood. Was an awesome drive but it took forever.
Nice one CCF. The Bruce Hornsby song reference with the title of the video. I approve of this title. Long time Hornsby fan like my father has been for over 35 years.
13:15. Fun fact, the I-238 and I-580 sign used to say Stockton and Fresno which is odd since Fresno is 145 miles away. I know why I-580 has Stockton as a control city but It should be replaced with Los Angeles and Fresno (since people that go to both go south on I-580 and I-5)
Bay Area local (Marin now, near San Raf-ELL; ex-Oakland & Alameda), originally from SD/IE/OC/LA. Proper music samples & references - you'd be welcomed in the Yay; just make sure to brush up on some Mac Dre as well:) (Graffiti is primarily just on a freeway brick wall - no explanation needed aside from it being some empty space to tag Also, the north side is primarily a tube/tunnel to Alameda, bridges further south)
I've been on this road way more times than I want to count. Just seeing the photos in this video make me feel like I'm about to be in a traffic jam even though I'm at home doing nothing. Thanks, I think 😂. (P. S. Fun fact about the SJC airport area: because, as you noted, there are limited interchanges around the airport, there are some local routes where the fastest way from point A to point B is to drive through the airport. I think that's the only airport I've ever driven through when I wasn't going to or from it.)
Used to go to Oakland a lot as a kid in the 80s & early 90s as my father worked near the Oakland airport as a airplane mechanic. I-880 used to be CA-17 until changed to I-880 in the mid to late 80s. Also used to drive on The double decker freeway before the ‘89 earthquake smashed & crumbled that part. CA-237 also takes you close to the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara. Anyways… Sell The Team!!!
@S_Over_Street 237 also leads to an amusement park my family would visit during the summertime growing up: Great America! In fact, I think the new stadium is right next to the park…
You are going to have to do an episode on Pittsburgh now. The Chiefs will be playing the Steelers in the ‘Burgh on Christmas Day. Since it’s Pennsylvania, you’ll have a field day with it! 🤪
I read that actually saved a lot of lives on the Nimitz collapse, since tons of people who would have otherwise been commuting either bailed out of work early or went to a bar straight from work to watch the game.
The Bay Area's 2di shortage (which is the root cause for things like I-238) could be addressed (at least with crayons...) by extending I-40 along CA-58 through Bakersfield and then concurrent with I-5 until somewhere near Coalinga and then CA-198 to CA-25 and US-101. Whether you'd then have I-40 take over 101 to San Francisco or go via 880 to the Macarthur Maze is a matter of taste, but you could then renumber a fair number of x80s as y40s.
Isn't there some weird Freeway near SFO called 300 which flies over Tanforan Center? I used to take a Sam Trans BX/Colma BART Bus 🚌 before BART went to the Airport!
Finally an area I’m quite familiar with, being only 3.5 hours away from me! 880 is easy to sign in both directions. As usual, left to right is northbound. Santa Cruz-San Jose-Fremont-Hayward-San Leandro-Oakland-Berkeley/Vallejo San Leandro is a good marker for the location of I 238. Another reason why it has to be called an “Interstate” is because trucks are not allowed to use I 580 through Oakland, so that means I 880 is their only legal route through the city. As for the renumbering point, my vote is for 180. 480 would be better used for the current route of I 80 through Sacramento, and the Capital City Freeway/Unsigned I 305 would be the proper alignment of a primary interstate (current 80 forms a sort of northern beltway, which should be the function of an even numbered 3DI). My pairing of Berkeley with Vallejo is because although Sacramento is close enough to also be listed (80 miles), three cities on an overhead would be a cluttered mess. However, once past the Richmond split, then Sacramento should be paired with Vallejo. That Exit 8 CA 237 mess you showed is the exit you’d take to get to the new 49er’s Stadium, as well as an amusement park my family would visit frequently during the summertime in the 2000’s: Great America (back then, they still actually played in the metro area they are purportedly located in!).
For the musical act segment I like adding, there was one metropolitan subdivision that I just could not find a well known example for: the Marin County region (I’m specifically looking for ones FROM the area; some upcoming featured acts record here, but aren’t BASED in the county). The other two in the San Francisco metro, namely the Peninsula (San Mateo and San Francisco Counties) and the East Bay (Contra Costa and Alameda Counties) did provide plenty of examples. Oh, and of course I also threw in some from the San Jose metro (San Benito and Santa Clara Counties). From the Peninsula, I gathered Jefferson Airplane, Journey, 4 Non Blondes, Dead Kennedys, 24kGoldn, Santana, Huey Lewis and the News, Faith No More and Sly and the Family Stone. From San Jose, I gathered Grateful Dead, the Doobie Brothers and Smash Mouth. From The East Bay, I gathered Green Day, Creedence Clearwater Revival, En Vogue, Lil B, Counting Crows, MC Hammer, Primus, Tony! Toni! Tone!, Digital Underground, The Cataracs and Rancid. As always, there’s no possible way for me to cover every single act. I am well aware of other acts like Train, Third Eye Blind the Pointer Sisters.
Not sure these meet your criteria, but Huey Lewis grew up in Marin County, and jazz pianist Vince Guaraldi (composer of most of the music for the Peanuts TV specials) was living in Mill Valley when he died at the age of 47 from a massive heart attack.
I went with Digital Underground and Luniz because I wanted to focus on Oakland specifically. Tons of great East Bay punk groups, but I always associate them more with Berkeley, mainly cuz Gilman
@stephenhassler4596 I actually gathered these from a site called Sporcle that specializes in trivia quizzes. Specifically one focusing on Northern California amongst a playlist from other states. I then just looked up where the act had its origins (for this video, the net involved 5 counties for the San Francisco metro, and 2 for the San Jose metro. I first attempted this quiz several years ago, and I always thought Huey Lewis was from New York (he did the opening song for Oliver and Company, which is about New York City). Turns out he was born in New York, but his band was formed on the opposite side of the continent. I had no idea about the connection to Marin County growing up… This is also how I learned two Southern Rock sounding groups (CCR and the Doobies) were based only 4 hours away from my home in Northern Nevada. I just never imagined that two groups that could ALMOST pass as country music were from a place that is very much the antithesis of the South!
@ControlCityFreak Well, if you ever do 410, you do have a certain Doobie’s classic to fall back on for your intro music. Cause outside of this, your best bet for San Antonio would be the Butthole Surfers (yes, that’s an actual band name!)
Re: I-238. California doesn't duplicate highway numbers at all, be it interstate, US or state. 180 wasn't/never was an option because CA 180 leads to Kings Canyon State Park. As for 480, you could use that for 238, but the memories of the Embarcadero freeway in SF might be too painful. Maybe they should have just left it as CA 238....
If memory serves me correctly, I-480 was suppose to be the Golden Gate Freeway, completing the freeway loop around SF Bay. It was to go from the Bay Bridge, over the Golden Gate Bridge, up 101 through Marin County, then replace CA-37 all the way to I-80
You should do I-238 on Oct. 17 - the Thursday before we play the 49ers, which also happens to be the 35th anniversary of the Loma Prieta earthquake. (Along with I-580, if you haven’t done that one already.)
I'd like to, but problem is they play a 2 gamer on a Tuesday and Wednesday. I've already got a vid planned for the week before and I fell like it would be weird to do it after, especially since I won't know the results of the games at the time I'm recording it.
A suggestion for June 6: I-405 in the Seattle area, as we play the Mariners that weekend. (Of course, that day is also the anniversary of D-Day, so here’s another suggestion - perhaps you could do some road in France, maybe the A13/N13 road that connects Paris to Cherbourg in the Normandy region near where the famous landings took place.)
The 880-101 interchange is one of the most horrible ones in the Bay Area. It's an old 1950s style cloverleaf for 2 huge freeways. So many dangerous weaves and the capacity is overwhelmed at most times of the day. Getting to an exit lane there is suicide and traffic backs up for miles.
@passatboi Unfortunately, I don’t know if that can be remedied now. That whole area looks quite residential. there isn’t even an interchange between 880 and 87 from what I see on Google Maps (I guess the airport is in the way?)! My hometown of Reno has a cloverleaf-turbine hybrid interchange that was built in the 70’s when the immediate urban area was only 130k. Today, it’s more than triple that, and the current design was too obsolete as much as 30 years ago. Lanes have been added on the freeways and the ramps, but it only helps so much. A full facelift would require land currently occupied by residential houses, so the situation isn’t good.
I agree with Todd’s the way it should be Northbound, but Southbound should be: Oakland Coliseum and Airport San Jose Downtown San Jose Airport (in Milpitas) Santa Clara/Santa Cruz (until the Alameda) Campbell/Santa Cruz
My first donation on here :) U.S. 301, I'd like to see the U.S. 301 and U.S. 501 Split in South Carolina, that's the way i took when i first went to Myrtle, U.S. 501, Nostalgic ! And another In Maryland I'd like to see the split of U.S. 301 and U.S. 50, As i will be Taking U.S. 50 For Ocean City This year. Thank You!!:)
That will probably be the first (and potentially last) Massachusetts state route I do, but no immediate plans to cover it. Might not be until 2026 when the Chiefs play the Pats again (unless the Patriots shock the world and they meet in the playoffs this year)
What should 238 be signed for, and why is it Livermore? As for what it should be called, CA should make a bridge from SFO to San Lorenzo, and have 238 and 380 be the same interstate, and that interstate should be signed: Westbound: San Francisco Daly City Eastbound: SFO Airport/Oakland Oakland/Livermore To 580 Livermore
@benjaminchandler7919 On paper, this does seem like the best way to get rid of the 238 oddity. However, outside of the funding elephant that comes from making what would ultimately be the longest Bay Area Bridge (longer than the San Mateo-Hayward Bridge, which is already 7 miles long!), or the need for it to be seismically sound (which requires stronger construction), the biggest issue is how to construct the western end without running into right of way problems at SFO. The current terminus of 380 defaults into the airport’s cargo area. There’s also designing the bridge so that runways 19R and 19L aren’t obstructed.
@@tylermarchand2996Related to an additional bridge across the Bay: The reason there is a 980 (instead of signing 24 all the way to the 880) is back in the '60's a second bay bridge was to have been built across Alameda and the bay to somewhere north of Candlestick Point. It died with the freeway revolt. The 980 was never physically connected to the 880 until after the Loma Prieta earthquake. I suspect they renamed the existing 24 stub (off the 580) to the 980 was to get federal funds to extend it into the 880. That's a waste of a number like the 238!
Yes the collapse trapped many drivers - killing 42. Many more drivers could have been involved but it's possible that the highway had lighter traffic due to Game 3 of the World Series occurring at the time.
@matti6948 You’re probably right, but I think there’s a rule somewhere that the link between 580 and 880 has to be an Interstate, because of how 580 is not a viable route for trucks through Oakland…
More interesting 880 facts: it used to be CA-17 all the way from Santa Cruz and even along the 580 alignment to San Rafael across the Richmond-SR Bridge. I-880 was the original designation of what is NOW I-80 going north around Sacramento. The current Business 80/Cap City Fwy was numbered as I-80. Eventually they had to remove the interstate designation as it was not up to interstate standards (except the US 50 part, which is actually unsigned I-305) ...so they made the northern beltline fwy I-80, and gave the I-880 designation to the Nimitz Fwy.
...also the interchange with 101 is HORRENDOUS
That interchange is the worst one in the bay area, definitely a 1950's relic. I remember 880 used to be 2 lanes each way coming out from this interchange and was one of the worst bottlenecks until about CA-237.
In 1984, the renumbering happened as CA 17 shortens between Santa Cruz and San Jose. The 880 was introduced between San Jose and Oakland while the 580 extends from Oakland to San Rafael.
😮 Funny you do the 880 this week, I just started exploring the 880 in American Truck Simulator by SCS Software. It's all new territory as this is part of the 1.50 update which included a reworking of the Bay Area to bring the state of California up to their modern map making style. Yes, it's condensed given the scale of the map and for the game, but, driving on the new roads look great!
Yea
Got our Interstate oddities fix with 238! Fun video. Can’t wait to see what in the Port Matilda you got planned for next week.
I-880 CA sure is definitely one of the busiest freeways in Alameda County, especially for truckers. I have to agree to sign Oakland to the north and San Jose to the south. By the way, for truckers travelling between MacArthur Maze and the Tri-Valley area of Alameda County, you can't use a portion of the 580 between Oakland and Castro Valley, but you can use the 880 and take the 238 to the 580.
The humpty dance intro made my day.
Amazing and interesting video always good to see where these 3 digit interstate freeways go to and signed for also interesting to have I-238
About the exit to OAK Airport, recently, after a voting of changing its name, the name change has been official as San Francisco Bay Oakland Int'l Airport. The Government of San Francisco sued the Port of Oakland for the name change, even though SFO isn't in San Francisco's city limits but in an unincorporated area of San Mateo County and the name change infringes the SFO trademark. The name change will help OAK be more recognized as an alternate airport when you fly to the Bay Area.
Oh that's interesting. Like a Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim sorta thing
@@ControlCityFreak, exactly. The name change was back to the former name in 2016, even though they stayed in Anaheim in Orange County since 1966. The final official name change happened to recognize the Angels as the L.A. Angels, and yes, they are in Greater L.A.'s MSA since both L.A. and Orange Counties form that MSA and region of California.
Appreciate the love in this video. That Mission Blvd exit that you can get to 680 is a very long road stretching from Milpitas to Hayward which you can turn on to either Harder Road or Carlos Bee Blvd to get to my now Alma Mater at CSUEB.
This reminded me of all of them times I took US 101 from San Jose down to Oxnard. Pretty great ride. I'm sure US 101 is on your list. My knee jerk was you just stay on US 101 to L.A. but thought about it a little bit and remember many times taking CA 152 from Gilroy over to I-5. Another pretty drive but some pretty steep hills
The first time I drove from the Bay to LA I took PCH. So 101 to Salinas or so, then PCH, then 101 from SLO to Hollywood. Was an awesome drive but it took forever.
Nice one CCF. The Bruce Hornsby song reference with the title of the video. I approve of this title. Long time Hornsby fan like my father has been for over 35 years.
It was cool getting to see the stadium where the Athletics MLB team plays at!!
13:15. Fun fact, the I-238 and I-580 sign used to say Stockton and Fresno which is odd since Fresno is 145 miles away. I know why I-580 has Stockton as a control city but It should be replaced with Los Angeles and Fresno (since people that go to both go south on I-580 and I-5)
thank you for making a bay area video!
Bay Area local (Marin now, near San Raf-ELL; ex-Oakland & Alameda), originally from SD/IE/OC/LA.
Proper music samples & references - you'd be welcomed in the Yay; just make sure to brush up on some Mac Dre as well:)
(Graffiti is primarily just on a freeway brick wall - no explanation needed aside from it being some empty space to tag
Also, the north side is primarily a tube/tunnel to Alameda, bridges further south)
Ah yes the interstate that got me into becoming the road geek that i am. Overall its always a pleasure to drive on this interstate
I've been on this road way more times than I want to count. Just seeing the photos in this video make me feel like I'm about to be in a traffic jam even though I'm at home doing nothing. Thanks, I think 😂.
(P. S. Fun fact about the SJC airport area: because, as you noted, there are limited interchanges around the airport, there are some local routes where the fastest way from point A to point B is to drive through the airport. I think that's the only airport I've ever driven through when I wasn't going to or from it.)
I must say I am quite impressed with your knowledge of roads!!
Thanks! 😃
Anytime!!
You forgot about the California Golden Seals playing in the Oakland Arena. They became the Cleveland Barons in 1976.
Used to go to Oakland a lot as a kid in the 80s & early 90s as my father worked near the Oakland airport as a airplane mechanic. I-880 used to be CA-17 until changed to I-880 in the mid to late 80s. Also used to drive on The double decker freeway before the ‘89 earthquake smashed & crumbled that part. CA-237 also takes you close to the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara. Anyways… Sell The Team!!!
@S_Over_Street 237 also leads to an amusement park my family would visit during the summertime growing up: Great America! In fact, I think the new stadium is right next to the park…
@@tylermarchand2996it is, and they are also close to US 101
You are going to have to do an episode on Pittsburgh now. The Chiefs will be playing the Steelers in the ‘Burgh on Christmas Day. Since it’s Pennsylvania, you’ll have a field day with it! 🤪
Yeah 76, 79, and 70 are all so far from town, will be cool to actually go into the center.
@@ControlCityFreakyou could do 376
Earthquake happened on live tv in the World Series between the A’s and the Giants.
I read that actually saved a lot of lives on the Nimitz collapse, since tons of people who would have otherwise been commuting either bailed out of work early or went to a bar straight from work to watch the game.
Baseball definitely saved lives that day
Baseball definitely saved lives that day
They should do what the NHL did with the Arizona Coyotes for the Oakland athletics
Alameda= Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home(10/10)
Nuclear Wessels!
I bet you will get a lot of bad Control Cities in Pennsylvania . Lol😅!!
There are nothing but bad control cities in Pennsylvania!
Another amazing video
Glad you enjoyed it
I'd like to see you do US-20, US-23, US-24, I-275 (Florida), I-475 (Toledo) (also Future I-73), US-220 and US-11 (W for Northbound, E for Southbound)!
275 is coming in October!
@@ControlCityFreak And by the way, can you include Exit 23B of I-275 in Florida? I used that exit to get over to Treasure Island, Florida.
The Bay Area's 2di shortage (which is the root cause for things like I-238) could be addressed (at least with crayons...) by extending I-40 along CA-58 through Bakersfield and then concurrent with I-5 until somewhere near Coalinga and then CA-198 to CA-25 and US-101. Whether you'd then have I-40 take over 101 to San Francisco or go via 880 to the Macarthur Maze is a matter of taste, but you could then renumber a fair number of x80s as y40s.
US 301? Please do Zephyrhills, FL! Though I was born and raised in Ohio, Zephyrhills is the town in which I've lived the longest.
You got it, thanks!
2:04 I know of Mountain View as where Google is based!
You should definitely do I-294 it’s my all time favorite highway
Benn on it a bunch, definitely will at some point
“San Jose the entire way” nice
What about in San Jose?
Isn't there some weird Freeway near SFO called 300 which flies over Tanforan Center? I used to take a Sam Trans BX/Colma BART Bus 🚌 before BART went to the Airport!
You gotta wonder how SoCal would sign their interstates if they were signed the way they are in NoCal.
For shorter highways, can you zoom in on the map, so you don't have to red dots touching each other?
Finally an area I’m quite familiar with, being only 3.5 hours away from me! 880 is easy to sign in both directions. As usual, left to right is northbound.
Santa Cruz-San Jose-Fremont-Hayward-San Leandro-Oakland-Berkeley/Vallejo
San Leandro is a good marker for the location of I 238. Another reason why it has to be called an “Interstate” is because trucks are not allowed to use I 580 through Oakland, so that means I 880 is their only legal route through the city. As for the renumbering point, my vote is for 180. 480 would be better used for the current route of I 80 through Sacramento, and the Capital City Freeway/Unsigned I 305 would be the proper alignment of a primary interstate (current 80 forms a sort of northern beltway, which should be the function of an even numbered 3DI).
My pairing of Berkeley with Vallejo is because although Sacramento is close enough to also be listed (80 miles), three cities on an overhead would be a cluttered mess. However, once past the Richmond split, then Sacramento should be paired with Vallejo.
That Exit 8 CA 237 mess you showed is the exit you’d take to get to the new 49er’s Stadium, as well as an amusement park my family would visit frequently during the summertime in the 2000’s: Great America (back then, they still actually played in the metro area they are purportedly located in!).
For the musical act segment I like adding, there was one metropolitan subdivision that I just could not find a well known example for: the Marin County region (I’m specifically looking for ones FROM the area; some upcoming featured acts record here, but aren’t BASED in the county). The other two in the San Francisco metro, namely the Peninsula (San Mateo and San Francisco Counties) and the East Bay (Contra Costa and Alameda Counties) did provide plenty of examples. Oh, and of course I also threw in some from the San Jose metro (San Benito and Santa Clara Counties).
From the Peninsula, I gathered Jefferson Airplane, Journey, 4 Non Blondes, Dead Kennedys, 24kGoldn, Santana, Huey Lewis and the News, Faith No More and Sly and the Family Stone.
From San Jose, I gathered Grateful Dead, the Doobie Brothers and Smash Mouth.
From The East Bay, I gathered Green Day, Creedence Clearwater Revival, En Vogue, Lil B, Counting Crows, MC Hammer, Primus, Tony! Toni! Tone!, Digital Underground, The Cataracs
and Rancid.
As always, there’s no possible way for me to cover every single act. I am well aware of other acts like Train, Third Eye Blind the Pointer Sisters.
Not sure these meet your criteria, but Huey Lewis grew up in Marin County, and jazz pianist Vince Guaraldi (composer of most of the music for the Peanuts TV specials) was living in Mill Valley when he died at the age of 47 from a massive heart attack.
I went with Digital Underground and Luniz because I wanted to focus on Oakland specifically. Tons of great East Bay punk groups, but I always associate them more with Berkeley, mainly cuz Gilman
@stephenhassler4596 I actually gathered these from a site called Sporcle that specializes in trivia quizzes. Specifically one focusing on Northern California amongst a playlist from other states. I then just looked up where the act had its origins (for this video, the net involved 5 counties for the San Francisco metro, and 2 for the San Jose metro.
I first attempted this quiz several years ago, and I always thought Huey Lewis was from New York (he did the opening song for Oliver and Company, which is about New York City). Turns out he was born in New York, but his band was formed on the opposite side of the continent. I had no idea about the connection to Marin County growing up…
This is also how I learned two Southern Rock sounding groups (CCR and the Doobies) were based only 4 hours away from my home in Northern Nevada. I just never imagined that two groups that could ALMOST pass as country music were from a place that is very much the antithesis of the South!
@ControlCityFreak Well, if you ever do 410, you do have a certain Doobie’s classic to fall back on for your intro music. Cause outside of this, your best bet for San Antonio would be the Butthole Surfers (yes, that’s an actual band name!)
Here’s Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-880 in Oakland
Northbound: Oakland, San Francisco
Southbound: San Jose
Southbound: Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk
What about in San Jose?
@@benjaminchandler7919 it’s a huge suburb
Great video... 😊
Thank you! Cheers!
Re: I-238. California doesn't duplicate highway numbers at all, be it interstate, US or state. 180 wasn't/never was an option because CA 180 leads to Kings Canyon State Park. As for 480, you could use that for 238, but the memories of the Embarcadero freeway in SF might be too painful. Maybe they should have just left it as CA 238....
It will never happen, but they could truncate the 580 and sign the east/west axis (580, 238, CA 120) as I-205 from I-880 to the 99 in Manteca.
If memory serves me correctly, I-480 was suppose to be the Golden Gate Freeway, completing the freeway loop around SF Bay. It was to go from the Bay Bridge, over the Golden Gate Bridge, up 101 through Marin County, then replace CA-37 all the way to I-80
You should do I-238 on Oct. 17 - the Thursday before we play the 49ers, which also happens to be the 35th anniversary of the Loma Prieta earthquake. (Along with I-580, if you haven’t done that one already.)
I want to see that too.
That'll be a Peninsula side vid
@@ControlCityFreakyou should do part of US 101 for it. It and CA 237 are the closest highways to the stadium
Actually, the Royals will be playing the A’s - but it will be here at the K.
D’oh! Looked at the schedule weeks ago but didn’t really pay attention to home or away
@@ControlCityFreak On that note, you should do I-270/255 for the Cards/Royals series.
I'd like to, but problem is they play a 2 gamer on a Tuesday and Wednesday. I've already got a vid planned for the week before and I fell like it would be weird to do it after, especially since I won't know the results of the games at the time I'm recording it.
You could do 270/255 on Aug. 8 - we host the Cardinals the next two days after that.
A suggestion for June 6: I-405 in the Seattle area, as we play the Mariners that weekend.
(Of course, that day is also the anniversary of D-Day, so here’s another suggestion - perhaps you could do some road in France, maybe the A13/N13 road that connects Paris to Cherbourg in the Normandy region near where the famous landings took place.)
The 880-101 interchange is one of the most horrible ones in the Bay Area. It's an old 1950s style cloverleaf for 2 huge freeways. So many dangerous weaves and the capacity is overwhelmed at most times of the day. Getting to an exit lane there is suicide and traffic backs up for miles.
@passatboi Unfortunately, I don’t know if that can be remedied now. That whole area looks quite residential. there isn’t even an interchange between 880 and 87 from what I see on Google Maps (I guess the airport is in the way?)!
My hometown of Reno has a cloverleaf-turbine hybrid interchange that was built in the 70’s when the immediate urban area was only 130k. Today, it’s more than triple that, and the current design was too obsolete as much as 30 years ago. Lanes have been added on the freeways and the ramps, but it only helps so much. A full facelift would require land currently occupied by residential houses, so the situation isn’t good.
I agree with Todd’s the way it should be Northbound, but Southbound should be:
Oakland Coliseum and Airport
San Jose
Downtown San Jose Airport (in Milpitas)
Santa Clara/Santa Cruz (until the Alameda)
Campbell/Santa Cruz
My first donation on here :)
U.S. 301, I'd like to see the U.S. 301 and U.S. 501 Split in South Carolina, that's the way i took when i first went to Myrtle, U.S. 501, Nostalgic !
And another In Maryland I'd like to see the split of U.S. 301 and U.S. 50, As i will be Taking U.S. 50 For Ocean City This year.
Thank You!!:)
Thanks so much! Will definitely include those
Were back in San Francisco 🔥🔥
Im surprised that you’re not doing either 465 or 485 next week in honor of the 2 of the biggest auto races in the US, both happen next Sunday.
Waiting till next year when 69 will be better signed
@@ControlCityFreakwhy not US 40?
Terrible control cities coming up--it must be about my home state of Pennsylvania!
Do you know the way to San Jose ?
(Me making a Nebraska Joke) " didn't realize that IAlowa DOT extended 880 over to Fremont
In the Bay Area, San Rafael is pronounced San Raf-ELL. You don't pronounced the a and the e separately. Toponyms: you can't know.
What was the intro song you used? It sounds familiar but I can't put my finger on it and I saw nothing in the description.
The Humpty Dance by Digital Underground. Argh it was in the description but it looks like CZcams ate the whole thing, guess I gotta re-write it.
That doesn't surprise me, CZcams only barely qualifies as a functional website.
880 north should be both Oakland & San Francisco as soon it begins
Nah, SF traffic would take 280 or 101.
@@ControlCityFreak regardless oakland is like a secondary since it aint da main city in the bay area metro area
@@ControlCityFreak also with hayward being signed along with san jose i would personally sign fremont as a secondary
When you said 301 in a few more weeks, are you referring to U.S. highway 301?
Yes
Can you cover Massachusetts RTE 2
That will probably be the first (and potentially last) Massachusetts state route I do, but no immediate plans to cover it. Might not be until 2026 when the Chiefs play the Pats again (unless the Patriots shock the world and they meet in the playoffs this year)
When are you rebooting the 5
Possibly this year, not sure yet
What should 238 be signed for, and why is it Livermore?
As for what it should be called, CA should make a bridge from SFO to San Lorenzo, and have 238 and 380 be the same interstate, and that interstate should be signed:
Westbound:
San Francisco
Daly City
Eastbound:
SFO Airport/Oakland
Oakland/Livermore
To 580 Livermore
Why not LA?
@benjaminchandler7919 On paper, this does seem like the best way to get rid of the 238 oddity. However, outside of the funding elephant that comes from making what would ultimately be the longest Bay Area Bridge (longer than the San Mateo-Hayward Bridge, which is already 7 miles long!), or the need for it to be seismically sound (which requires stronger construction), the biggest issue is how to construct the western end without running into right of way problems at SFO. The current terminus of 380 defaults into the airport’s cargo area. There’s also designing the bridge so that runways 19R and 19L aren’t obstructed.
@@tylermarchand2996 what do you suggest doing instead?
@@tylermarchand2996Related to an additional bridge across the Bay: The reason there is a 980 (instead of signing 24 all the way to the 880) is back in the '60's a second bay bridge was to have been built across Alameda and the bay to somewhere north of Candlestick Point. It died with the freeway revolt. The 980 was never physically connected to the 880 until after the Loma Prieta earthquake. I suspect they renamed the existing 24 stub (off the 580) to the 980 was to get federal funds to extend it into the 880. That's a waste of a number like the 238!
Oh right, that's the one that was known for being damaged in the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake.
I assume I'm right on that?
Yes the collapse trapped many drivers - killing 42. Many more drivers could have been involved but it's possible that the highway had lighter traffic due to Game 3 of the World Series occurring at the time.
@@nathananderson3922 Of course.
The freeway through Silicon Valley! The HQ for CZcams isn’t too far off this road…
@@davidfreesefan23 Ah
why not 280 next?
Thy should make it 180 since it's a spur, not 480....
There's already a CA 180 so they can't
@@ControlCityFreak Lame. 😂
When are you doing US 50
Not sure. No immediate plans.
Maybe I-880 should be I-38
Lol
Do ontario 401 already
2025 at the earliest. Waiting for Gordon Howe Bridge to open.
238 should not be an interstate!
@matti6948 You’re probably right, but I think there’s a rule somewhere that the link between 580 and 880 has to be an Interstate, because of how 580 is not a viable route for trucks through Oakland…
Also federal dollars are available for interstates, and much less (if any) for state highways.