The colours are surprisingly good on the 'real VHS' footage, the white balance or the ISO of the tape film perhaps, is a lot warmer looking. The 'digital' footage looked very washed though.
@@claudeimanuel thats what i noticed as well, i think a big factor is also they way VHS tape interlaces each frame giving movement a different feel. Still need to iron out the details with frame rate stuff tho!
This looks so fun lol i feel like these old cameras make capturing moments more of an experience rather than just a quick touch on a phone. The footage also has more of a distinct character which is cool. I always liked how warm and down to earth analogue looks and feels.
I agree! I feel like those analog characteristics make me see the footage as other would. Theres a degree of separation there that makes it feel like a memory rather than a cold clinical recapturing on a phone :)
Here from the skateboard/filmmaker community, love using mini DV camcorders for my own videos and have stockpiled tapes but the tapeless movement is really taking off! Great video man definitely tuning in for future stuff!
I just stumbled upon this video and decided to check out the rest of your channel. As someone who runs a business transferring analog media to digital, and listens to almost nothing else other than lo-fi vaporwave, I'm glad I did. I have noticed that you haven't posted anything in about a year, but I've subscribed in hopes that I'm able to see some new content soon. Keep it up, man. You've got a good channel here. And yes, I remember when Much Music actually had music videos. I'm also old enough to remember watching it the day it premiered.
made my day :D yes i kinda went a bit dark because I went back to school for an electrical engineering/electrician program. its summer vacation soon, and you know what that means! hoping to start building cool things from scratch audio and video-wise stay tuned!
It's interesting that when I was growing up, shooting Super 8 was retro and VHS was "the greatest thing: 5 bux for 2 hours with sound, whoopee!". Now both are retro and it's interesting how many of the video camera's mechanisms are dead as compared to the film cameras.
Ya video, objectively speaking, is a hot mess. The hand cranks in super 8 cameras and bolexs still work while the rubber pully systems in vhs cameras melt, and that's only the most common issues among many. Maybe developing costs are worth it in the end :,) gotta get my hands on a super 8 someday....
@@arttheboy it's just two totally different looks. Back in the day, VHS looked like crap to me, Super 8 was the organic grainy film experience. Now when everything is crystal sharp HD, VHS is actually cool and Super 8 in its own way. Super 8 is wicked expensive to shoot, but if you have some money lying around and want the experience, by all means, it's loads of fun (at least until you start using it as a real production format). There's a guy called Analog Resurgence who has a lot of helpful stuff to get you started.
This is definitely one of the best VHS filming videos I've seen while exploring this style of filming. The charisma and quality! So good! Keep it up bro.
Wow, this was really interessting! Im from the skateboard community and am putting together my powerplay dvr setup rn :D keep doing what you do, this is great content
I'm a huge videotape nerd and I own 6 working vhs cameras. And I found your video because I also skate and own a sony vx and thoght well if i made that tapeless then I should do the same for my vhs ones and not have to search for blanks at thrift stores. Concerning batteries, I've found manufactures who still make batteries for most of the cameras I own. But I will say, a modern battery bank will hold the juice longer. Anyways, thanks for the video. I've got some converting to do.
Cool video my guy. I felt like you were a big CZcams channel based on the quality of the video and what you're saying is really interesting. Keep it up
Great video. I would have had the camera repaired, even though that would cost more, and just use it as it was meant to be used. That way the shooting, especially on location, would be a tad easier. I do like to give new life to old equipment, and you certainly did that, so much better than chucking the cam in the trash. Neat ideas, and again, great video. : )
I find it strange it has those horizontal lines, looks like something internal with the camera though because it's present on both VHS and DVR. I did a similar thing with a handicam but I plugged it into a drone video transmitter and recorded using my goggle DVR, the bonus there is a built in high quality upscale to 1280*960.
Cool! but I wish you would have gone more in depth with the process so I can do it. You showing us. I’ll look up everything you said online though but still.
As a very last question. I then solder two cables, one positive and negative together and plug this into the DC5V connector and then I solder Audio In and Video In to another cable and plug this into the AV connector. Is this correct?
@@arttheboy I meant that there will be two different cables, one connects Audio In and Video In with the AV output and the other connects Plus and minus with the DC5V, a 5 Volt power supply. But it would be the best if there is a follow up video. Anyways thank you so much for your help.
Did that camera work when you first got it? Got a hold of an older Magnavox VHS recorder, but looks like the included battery is dead! Even using the correct charger!
The main things I look for are cameras with their proprietary power adapter and an av output. the included batteries from the 80s and 90s don't hold charge anymore. being able to plug the camera directly into the wall is ideal because there is a bunch of adapters you can buy to make it portable. Try to see if there is a dc plug outlet that is on your camera and buy an adapter. I alwa
Best place is facebook market place, maybe you can get lucky and find one at a thrift store -- just test them before you purchase them. If they can eject tapes with no issue they tend to be okay
Do you think this way the quality would be better, more faithful, than if I used an RCA capture card, plugged the USB into my Android phone and recorded the signal via the app?
basically the quality is determined by the dvr/capture method you use so I would think that yes using an rca capture card into any digital device like a phone would give you a better result than the inexpensive DVR I used in the video
@@CaioCSGamer yes that would absolutely work with your android, maybe even can use it as a display to see your footage real time if that app allows it!
sup bro its me again sorry to bother you but i found a dvr thats has 6 connections instead of 4 and those 2 extra connections are positives and a negative one positive its 5v and the other one is 7-26v so my question is can i cut those two extra connections and just use the 4 that has?? or i have to use the 6 connections??
@@arttheboy okay perfect thank you for your help i am new to this and i've got a Canon XM2 for 50 Bucks but the Tape slot isn't responding so I wanted to get sure if it works
Has anyone ever put a digital sensor in a vhs camera i want to know if its possible im not looking for vhs look of the footage i just like a big ass camera that could shoot hd / 4k.
Interesting, your best bet is looking into tv production cameras and certain dv tape cameras also did 1080 like the sony hvr s270u some cant do 1080 on the tapes and use a compact flash slot as well. But ya tv production cameras are your best bet check out the youtube channel cathode ray dude he covers alot of these hd huge cameras
Interestingly, a lot of the smaller camcorders that used 8mm or DV tapes might already have (early) digital sensors built in. But yeah, that would be a neat way to re-use a non-working old camera, tricky to do though as there ain't many ways to get a bare 4K capable sensor or the electronics to keep up with it and record, I know 1080p is easy because a Raspberry Pi with one of their high quality camera moduals could pull it off readily. I certainly won't stop you from researching it though, if you find something workable it'd be neat to hear about it
the camera has AV out. I soldered an av cable to that little DVR i showed in the video. When you press record on the tiny dvr it records onto a micro-SD card. I used a 32gb sd card so that's A LOT of recording time :D
@@arttheboy you can of course go the route of using a pro analog to sdi converter and a external recorder like the atomos stuff, but that would set you back far beyond those 20 bucks 😆
the cheapest method atm to go tapeless is to use a DVR for fpv drones and connect them to analog cameras with an av output -- you will have to solder or at least use hot glue (lol) to make the appropriate connections I made a follow up video answer a few questions i got as well
Hello ALL! I made a follow up video addressing these comments :) czcams.com/video/bAQeRrqKmx0/video.html
The colours are surprisingly good on the 'real VHS' footage, the white balance or the ISO of the tape film perhaps, is a lot warmer looking. The 'digital' footage looked very washed though.
Ya i see that too, very blue color cast on the digital footage
just recolor to taste!
well actually the frame rate and feel is way different :o
@@claudeimanuel thats what i noticed as well, i think a big factor is also they way VHS tape interlaces each frame giving movement a different feel. Still need to iron out the details with frame rate stuff tho!
20 bugz? What kind of bugz are we talking about here? 20 bees? 20 caterpillars? Could be so many different bugs
This looks so fun lol i feel like these old cameras make capturing moments more of an experience rather than just a quick touch on a phone. The footage also has more of a distinct character which is cool. I always liked how warm and down to earth analogue looks and feels.
I agree! I feel like those analog characteristics make me see the footage as other would. Theres a degree of separation there that makes it feel like a memory rather than a cold clinical recapturing on a phone :)
"I always liked how warm and down to earth analogue looks and feels"..
No better way of putting it!!! 👏👏
Here from the skateboard/filmmaker community, love using mini DV camcorders for my own videos and have stockpiled tapes but the tapeless movement is really taking off! Great video man definitely tuning in for future stuff!
Thank you friend! more to come :D
I just stumbled upon this video and decided to check out the rest of your channel. As someone who runs a business transferring analog media to digital, and listens to almost nothing else other than lo-fi vaporwave, I'm glad I did. I have noticed that you haven't posted anything in about a year, but I've subscribed in hopes that I'm able to see some new content soon. Keep it up, man. You've got a good channel here. And yes, I remember when Much Music actually had music videos. I'm also old enough to remember watching it the day it premiered.
made my day :D yes i kinda went a bit dark because I went back to school for an electrical engineering/electrician program. its summer vacation soon, and you know what that means! hoping to start building cool things from scratch audio and video-wise stay tuned!
@@arttheboy good luck in your schooling, and hopefully we'll see more of you soon!
Grainy as hell and I love it. My grandfather has had one of these packed away for a long time and still in good condition, trying to restore it though
that's dope im glad so many people are finding use for these :D
It's interesting that when I was growing up, shooting Super 8 was retro and VHS was "the greatest thing: 5 bux for 2 hours with sound, whoopee!". Now both are retro and it's interesting how many of the video camera's mechanisms are dead as compared to the film cameras.
Ya video, objectively speaking, is a hot mess. The hand cranks in super 8 cameras and bolexs still work while the rubber pully systems in vhs cameras melt, and that's only the most common issues among many. Maybe developing costs are worth it in the end :,) gotta get my hands on a super 8 someday....
@@arttheboy it's just two totally different looks. Back in the day, VHS looked like crap to me, Super 8 was the organic grainy film experience. Now when everything is crystal sharp HD, VHS is actually cool and Super 8 in its own way. Super 8 is wicked expensive to shoot, but if you have some money lying around and want the experience, by all means, it's loads of fun (at least until you start using it as a real production format). There's a guy called Analog Resurgence who has a lot of helpful stuff to get you started.
@@tselinsky6452 Thats awesome gotta check them out! thanks for the info :)
This is definitely one of the best VHS filming videos I've seen while exploring this style of filming. The charisma and quality! So good! Keep it up bro.
Thanks so much for the kind words :) in the process of moving but I’m working on analog/tape camera videos
@@arttheboy Good luck with the move I know how much of a hassle that can be. Can't wait to see what you do.
Wow, this was really interessting! Im from the skateboard community and am putting together my powerplay dvr setup rn :D keep doing what you do, this is great content
THANK YOU!
You’ve nearly achieved network quality picture from a consumer device. Give yourself a pat on the back!
Thanks friend :)
I'm a huge videotape nerd and I own 6 working vhs cameras. And I found your video because I also skate and own a sony vx and thoght well if i made that tapeless then I should do the same for my vhs ones and not have to search for blanks at thrift stores. Concerning batteries, I've found manufactures who still make batteries for most of the cameras I own. But I will say, a modern battery bank will hold the juice longer. Anyways, thanks for the video. I've got some converting to do.
Cool video my guy. I felt like you were a big CZcams channel based on the quality of the video and what you're saying is really interesting. Keep it up
Thank you means alot :,)
wow you are a life saver. my tapes just stopped working
glad i could help!
Bro, love your video, cheers from Mexico! Keep up the good work.
really cool video! what model is the RCA camcorder you're using? I really like the aesthetic of it
Thanks! its the RCA CMR300
Great video. I would have had the camera repaired, even though that would cost more, and just use it as it was meant to be used. That way the shooting, especially on location, would be a tad easier. I do like to give new life to old equipment, and you certainly did that, so much better than chucking the cam in the trash. Neat ideas, and again, great video. : )
Do you power the dvr from the camera or externally with a powerbank?
Nice video! Ordered mine today, looking forward to try it out when it arrives. I subscribed
Bro, I love your hair
haha thank you :)
Does your dvr only record in 3 minute increments
nope! it records longer than 3 minutes, I don't know if there is a cap though I never left it running before
I find it strange it has those horizontal lines, looks like something internal with the camera though because it's present on both VHS and DVR.
I did a similar thing with a handicam but I plugged it into a drone video transmitter and recorded using my goggle DVR, the bonus there is a built in high quality upscale to 1280*960.
I've grown in the MTV air where really used to be a musical channel. (And I'm not canadian)
We had a really old one that had a battery powered VCR, and then a video camera on a cable. I think it was NICad.
omg im gonna say it in portuguese because it sounds better so: CARALHO VOCÊ É UM ANJO MUITO OBRIGADO
of course any time!
Hey! I just got my hands on two CMR300s that won't open the tape deck (belt issue most likely) so this might actually come in handy!
hell yeah!
awesome upload !!
you should review more vintage cameras
Thanks! I have collected quite the collection since I shot this video :D will do
Good idea and recycling at its best can you give us a link to the mini dvr thanks
not sure if i can post a URL in the comments but I specifically buy dvr for fpv drones cuz they are the cheapest! they're so many great options :D
@@arttheboy most folks put them in the video description.
Cool! but I wish you would have gone more in depth with the process so I can do it. You showing us. I’ll look up everything you said online though but still.
the second camera you use does not use Hi8 tapes, as its says its uses video 8 tapes/8mm tapes
great catch! Funny enough, I just got a real Hi8 camcorder that works, gonna make a video on it soon :D
Some, or many of us, are not asking "Why use VHS Cam ?".
Thank god
Some of these shots look so familiar! They don't happen to be filmed in Hamilton, do they?
Yep! I live in Hamilton :D most of the shots were around limeridge
@@arttheboy Oh nice! You got IG? I'll add you on there. I'm just down the mountain haha
whats the song?
Is there a link to the dvr thing?
I was wondering if you can do it more in depth video on how to connect it to the VHS
with that little dvr what do you plug it in to?
thank you daddy
;)
Tell me how you did the battery situation plzzzz
As a very last question. I then solder two cables, one positive and negative together and plug this into the DC5V connector and then I solder Audio In and Video In to another cable and plug this into the AV connector. Is this correct?
Yes I believe you described it correctly, make sure you ground the AV wires. I am making a follow up video because I’m getting this question a bunch
@@arttheboy I meant that there will be two different cables, one connects Audio In and Video In with the AV output and the other connects Plus and minus with the DC5V, a 5 Volt power supply. But it would be the best if there is a follow up video. Anyways thank you so much for your help.
Did that camera work when you first got it? Got a hold of an older Magnavox VHS recorder, but looks like the included battery is dead! Even using the correct charger!
The main things I look for are cameras with their proprietary power adapter and an av output. the included batteries from the 80s and 90s don't hold charge anymore. being able to plug the camera directly into the wall is ideal because there is a bunch of adapters you can buy to make it portable. Try to see if there is a dc plug outlet that is on your camera and buy an adapter. I alwa
@@arttheboy there are replacement batteries available, but around $35 or so! Thank you I will try using the battery charger pack on the camera!
How can I find 1980s vhs camcorder? And how to make it on tape less?
Great video!
THANKS SO MUCH
Pretty cool idea.
We’re do I get the vcr
Best place is facebook market place, maybe you can get lucky and find one at a thrift store -- just test them before you purchase them. If they can eject tapes with no issue they tend to be okay
Awesome video man
Thank you :)
Subscribed because I am in Roma Pizza Land.
Do you think this way the quality would be better, more faithful, than if I used an RCA capture card, plugged the USB into my Android phone and recorded the signal via the app?
basically the quality is determined by the dvr/capture method you use so I would think that yes using an rca capture card into any digital device like a phone would give you a better result than the inexpensive DVR I used in the video
@@arttheboy i just asked cuz the capture card is really inexpensive, its a easycap, and the phone i already have, so it prolly cost 10bucks or less!
@@CaioCSGamer yes that would absolutely work with your android, maybe even can use it as a display to see your footage real time if that app allows it!
Amazing
Thanks Yobleenm!
sup bro its me again sorry to bother you but i found a dvr thats has 6 connections instead of 4 and those 2 extra connections are positives and a negative one positive its 5v and the other one is 7-26v so my question is can i cut those two extra connections and just use the 4 that has?? or i have to use the 6 connections??
Cool video, but does this also work for DVC like a Canon XM2 Mini DV?
Any camera with an aux output would work :)
@@arttheboy It has a DC5V and an AV Output I think then it will not work. Or is it maybe possible with an Aux to AV adapter?
@@jonas4394 don’t worry an AV output would work great :)
@@arttheboy okay perfect thank you for your help i am new to this and i've got a Canon XM2 for 50 Bucks but the Tape slot isn't responding so I wanted to get sure if it works
Which battery pack do you use?!
How’s the audio quality of that dvr
Has anyone ever put a digital sensor in a vhs camera i want to know if its possible im not looking for vhs look of the footage i just like a big ass camera that could shoot hd / 4k.
Interesting, your best bet is looking into tv production cameras and certain dv tape cameras also did 1080 like the sony hvr s270u some cant do 1080 on the tapes and use a compact flash slot as well. But ya tv production cameras are your best bet check out the youtube channel cathode ray dude he covers alot of these hd huge cameras
Interestingly, a lot of the smaller camcorders that used 8mm or DV tapes might already have (early) digital sensors built in.
But yeah, that would be a neat way to re-use a non-working old camera, tricky to do though as there ain't many ways to get a bare 4K capable sensor or the electronics to keep up with it and record, I know 1080p is easy because a Raspberry Pi with one of their high quality camera moduals could pull it off readily.
I certainly won't stop you from researching it though, if you find something workable it'd be neat to hear about it
please dont film directly in the sun :o
i like the real vhs better than digital because it looks more vhs look
the real vhs probably provides a real vhs look because its real vhs.
So, how do you record on digital? How do you capture the footage??
the camera has AV out. I soldered an av cable to that little DVR i showed in the video. When you press record on the tiny dvr it records onto a micro-SD card. I used a 32gb sd card so that's A LOT of recording time :D
@@arttheboy you can of course go the route of using a pro analog to sdi converter and a external recorder like the atomos stuff, but that would set you back far beyond those 20 bucks 😆
@@maxmustardman298 one day if i hit the lotto i will make a demo comparing the two :,)
Movies should be made with realvhs
Can someone summarise what the actual method is? I just watched it all half zoned out and missed it
the cheapest method atm to go tapeless is to use a DVR for fpv drones and connect them to analog cameras with an av output -- you will have to solder or at least use hot glue (lol) to make the appropriate connections I made a follow up video answer a few questions i got as well
Bla bla bla...
very cool
anytime! I'm always for saving money haha