Build A Bulletproof Pedalboard
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The Rig Doctor shows you how to make your rig bulletproof and withstand even the most destructive roadie or airport staff, built to last a lifetime.
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Howdy folks! This Rig Doctor episode is all about using techniques to build an ultra road worthy, light weight, and compact pedalboard that can withstand even the most brutal airport staff or roadies out there. Please ask me questions in the comments below about this rig or your rig, troubleshooting advise, etc. We'd love to have you back for future episodes, so if you find this video helpful, please like and subscribe! ~Rig Doc
I'm really digging the vibe of this channel bro. You have made a noob fan man. Cheers!
Jason Heaton Thanks again for watching! I hope we’ve earned your subscription!
So glad I came across your channel. Definitely a staple on CZcams for me! Love it!
In this video you showed the stereo mix blended at 50/50 on a mono signal. I need this! My question is what do I need to buy/do to achieve this feature
Thanks
Just found this video and have been inspired! Where do you get your interfaces? Building a rig myself and that is a piece I haven't yet found
@@VertexEffectsInc isn't this too large for carry on ? I'm confused if you meant TSA proof for check in luggage friendly to prevent things from breaking via baggage handlers? Or for carrying on the flight?
Ben and I are board bros now.
Rhett Shull hahahaha
how exactly is it tsa proof? all you did was make it smaller
TSA watching video - “challenge accepted”.
😂
Totally love videos like this! Can’t wait to see more
Outpour East I’m so glad you dig it! Make sure to subscribe so you can get more info like this in the coming weeks!
Wow. I completely enjoyed watching this. Thank you for sharing! I really got to get myself a pedal board!
MrMusicM67 Thank you so much for watching! Definitely check out the video we did a month or two ago with Get Off My Case pedalboard company, that’s a great place to start. Please be sure to subscribe so you can get more great stuff like this in the future!
Great episode Mason, thanks. I worked for an airline for 7.5 years, and had really good friends who were TSA agents that would tell us the inside scoop and countless stories over beers at happy hour. I’ve been a pro musician for 20 years, but full-time for only the past 2.
When I travel with my pedalboard rig (which also weighs about 49lbs) I take out all the patch cables, XLR cables and power cables. I wrap the cables up and put it in my luggage instead of with the pedalboard. You see, the non-musician-TSA-agents get freaked out when they see all the wiring/cabling in the x-ray (think “bomb wiring”). As a result, they have to open it all up and inspect it. Because they have no idea how a pedalboard works, they rip it apart trying to find some verification that it’s good to go. Most of the time, they aren’t malicious about it and have no ill-intentions (although there are some bad apples), they just don’t want to let something harmful get by them AND don’t want to inconvenience anyone by denying their luggage from getting loaded on the flight. A lot of TSA agents actually have good hearts and take their job seriously (and of course some a little too seriously).
So yeah, it’s a pain in the ass to take all the cables out of my rig, but it only takes about 15-20 minutes. I’ve got 19 devices on my pedalboard including power supplies, wireless units, wireless IEM transmitter and a small mixer. After a few times, removing and connecting back the cables is definitely worth the smooth transition through TSA. I’ll also disclose that I don’t use tie-downs and zip ties, so that might be a problem if you do.
Hope this helps...
Joe Guam That’s some great perspective, and I appreciate you sharing that. Understandably if you work for TSA you have a job to do, seeing things out of the norm I’m sure throw them for a bit of a loop. I’m also sure that in the majority of cases any damage is non-intentional. Nevertheless, the musicians, through no fault of their own, end up being the ones with consequences for damaged items, with very little recourse to individual agents with TSA from my understanding. The biggest concern is that if the standard for having a pedalboard not disrupted is removing all the cables, it would pretty much mean that you’d have to have a rig that was always in limbo. For some of these more complicated switching systems, it would almost be impossible to put Humpty Dumpty back together before every gig. It seems like a far reach for most musicians if this is an example of the standard by which TSA is enforcing. I suppose that time will tell with regard to Benjamin’s rig.
Always with amazing Rigs!!
Jose Escudero thanks man! Super appreciate it! Please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already if you wanna see more like this! Thanks again for watching!
I don’t see how this is going to stop the TSA from messing with it. They generally want to open up the pedals to check there’s nothing untoward or illegal inside.
Hi Mason! I am really enjoying your channel. I have the Vertex boost and love it. I support what you do. Keep up the good work.
Wow thanks a lot Danny! Thank you for the kind words, and thank you for your patronage! Please feel free to ask me anything about your own rig, and please subscribe if you want to get more stuff like this in the future!
Your most welcome! I have subscribed and appreciate the offer for future help.
Danny Brooks Thank you so much Danny! Let us know and we can make good on our offer to help you out with your rig!
awesome board❤
you guys are awesome!!
Daniel Gutierrez thanks man! Let us know if we can help with your rig! And thanks for shooting us a comment!
Great video! Lately I've been seeing a lot of promise with the floor units because of the quality standards, easy of use, and features. I still say keep a small dirt box and modulation pedal or small effects unit in the guitar case or bag as backup because it's saved me more than few times...but that's just local gigs.
Thanks for watching! I hope we earned your subscription!
Sorry, and how is it gonna make it harder for TSA?
Cool video as usually. It made me think about putting the power supply below some pedal so I can have more space. But since my pedalboard is a diago I don't know if I can use a lifter...
I don’t know that pedalboard
Man, I NEED to get a board built by you some time! Awesome work.
Ross Campbell I’m in Europe later this spring, let’s do it!
Nicw work !!! Why not drill holes and screw the pedals and units to the boards using some lock-tite also?
I remember seeing a video where Paul Gilbert talked about how the TSA kept ripping the pedals off of his board because they were looking for serial numbers so he decided to write a fake pedalboard name and serial number on the bottom of the board. Maybe you could start serializing your Vertex boards to help with this. I know Wayne Krantz has had issues with the TSA destroying his Vertex board too.
tylerherbs yea, they’re brutal! I built Wayne two rigs, a wet/dry one for The Ringers and another solo rig. I think the former did fine last I saw Wayne, but it was tight and compact. The second was more spaced out and had some room for other pedals and orientations, and that became an issues at JFK. If only we knew then what we know now!
Any idea why they would be looking for serial numbers? I have a homemade board that I fly with a few times a year
@@AlexPriceMusician no idea, wonder if they wanted to prove that products were being imported?
"They" dont look for serial numbers ever. Lol. Cant imagine anyone cutting zip ties or anything like that. Best thing you can do is dont pack a bunch of crap with it or on top of it. Use a TSA lock.
Tap tempo/faves switch in the same enclosure is BRILLIANT. Would you ever consider making these commercially available?
No, not at this time, super easy to make yourself, it's just wires to a footswitch.
This guy is legit! 🙌
Thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe for more good stuff!
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Zeek is a good boy! Thanks for watching!
Hi there, a question about DC cables if we need to do it from scratch, what kind of cable and size,diameter do we need to use for them?
helloo Mason... thanks a lot for so much good information, i´m learning a lot with your videos.
i need your help with something: i got a Boss DD-20 and the Kodiak tremolo by JHS, in one hand...in other hand i have a MXR tap tempo pedal.
Q: how can i do to control both pedals (Boss DD-20 & Kodiak tremolo) using the MXR tap tempo?
i hope is posible. thanks for your help before hand
Jorge.
Uncle Mas,
Just curious...where did you put the volume pedal in the signal chain? I know this was a few years ago but was wondering if you remembered.
Great video Mason! I actually just finished a new build after watching this video with the same dimensions. Quick question, how were you able to get the Pelican case to fit the board so perfect???? Did you special order it with the foam dimensions or did you cut it out yourself? I am about to place an order for one and want to make sure it is done correctly. Thanks!!
We cut it to size or you can get the Trek Pak and it’s always pretty much to size and has the tools to cut where needed.
Hi! Sweet job! I bought Vertex BOOST recently but still havn’t hooked it up in my board. Waiting for volume pedal.
I have a question: what does the mono mix do ? And how regular mono out differs from it?
Skylark Music Thank you so much! I think you’ll really dig the boost, although it’s not the most sexy thing on a rig, it certainly is one of the most functional ideas that we’ve ever put out and is still a standard amongst many of the top session in touring musicians in the world. The difference between most of the other mono sums out there is that they typically are just tying together is the left and right signal and relying on the output section of those stereo pedals to drive the line. This is not ideal. Although I think that using a dedicated left output is preferable to a mono sum, and simply re-working your presets to a hard pans when in mono, the mono sum provides an active output buffered mixer that mixes evenly whatever the ratio of L and R mix is on the last pedal before hitting the mixer. Most of the mono summing devices that I’ve seen are passive on the output and are relying on the pedals before it to drive the line or the input buffer if there are no pedals on after the buffer, and all and true bypass. This is not ideal from a signal processing standpoint, it doesn’t give you a true representation of the stereo image in a mono perspective.
Awesome process ! & Impeccable results , so well thought and precise 😍
By the way what brand and model is the case for that pedal board again ?
Please 😁
Pelican Air
Great video, Mason! I just watched all of the videos from the Rig Doctor playlist and really enjoyed them.
I'd love to see a future video showing how you wire up boards that use switching systems like The GigRig G2, Boss ES-8, etc. I have a G2 and while it has a lot of benefits, it can make for a big mess of cables when wiring everything up. Would love to see your tips, tricks and also recommended pedal board options (tiered, where to place multiple power supplies, keeping things tidy). My current board has a spacious section for placing power supplies and cables underneath the top of the board - but also includes a bottom panel to cover the very bottom of the board that needs to be unscrewed to access these cables. Kind of a pain. Thanks!
Phil Heesen III You need to check out Rhett Shull’s video, we do one with the Boss ES system - hosted on his channel. Thanks for watching and subscribe and stay tuned for more like this!
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks for the reply! I'll check out the video for Rhett's board. Thanks so much!
Phil Heesen III Let me know how you did it!
@@VertexEffectsInc I love how meticulous you are with this stuff. You've given me lots of great ideas! Can't wait for more from the Rig Doctor!
Phil Heesen III thank you my friend
Tennessee Jed!
Thanks for your videos! Do you have a tip for tying down excess cabling for power and audio cables or making them look more clean when not custom making cables to length?
Matthew Glenn You can try using the zip ties and tiedown mounts that I have linked in the description
Great episode! can you do an episode about wiring power cables? What do you use, how to make a daisy chain cable (meaning splitting one power out to two or more.) etc...
Amit Sapir yes! Great idea! I’ll pitch this to the team and see about tackling this in the next month! Thanks for the suggestions and keep them coming!
yeah I'd like to see that too@@VertexEffectsInc
Dustin Box were on it!
Mason, great video! His 28 x 12 board seems pretty snug in that flight case but the dimensions on the interior of the case claim to be 32.5 x 18. Did y’all place extra foam in or is that the thickness of the included foam? Also in your opinion, could you fit a 28 x 14 GOMC board in that case? Thanks.
We cut down our own foam to fit more precisely
Is there a case I can get with the G.O.M.C pedalboard?
Great video and beautiful looking board! What do you think is the most important thing to keep in mind when putting together a board in order to avoid TSA issues? I've flown with my board once and it was totally fine but definitely want to avoid having it ripped apart by TSA. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
I think making it so it's impossible to remove pedals by hand. That means using high density dual lock, SJ3551, and leaving no spaces between pedals, just enough to clear the jacks, that's it. With the tier on the second row, that helps protect the first row from being disturbed. The volume pedal is literally bolted through the pedalboard surface so that's safe, and on the back where there was some space for hands to get under pedals, we installed handles to block off the access, but also protect the back row from taking a hit from someone walking behind the rig, or an unsuspecting roadie.
@@VertexEffectsInc Awesome! Thanks for the tips, especially on velcro, I'll have to look into getting the dual lock stuff. I also got a tip to put a note explaining that it was my pedalboard and if TSA had questions they could call me. May be overkill but I would rather be safe than sorry with my board. Thanks again!
@@brandoncouture4432 I've heard that, but I've also had guys saying it did nothing. I've also heard about serializing the rig as one unit helps, but I have no proof other than anecdotal accounts.
What was the height of the riser used on this build?
What kind of clamp is that @7:40? Super useful.
Rig Doctor how do I get a pedal board with a tier where it can fold up to put pedals below and on top. I like to get a board with a small foot print but with a lot of pedals. Please advise and thank you for your channel.
You can use the same lift/riser we use here and mount a door hinge to it on one side. Otherwise just use what we used here and you can release with four quarter turn screws to access what’s below the tier.
Hey Mason, Whats your opinion on the Friedman Board? Im intruiged by the quality and included power supply and buffer that fit right in. But hefty tag. Is it worth? Thanks bro.
No complaints, but you can also get the individual parts as I linked here and have something more customized and perhaps cheaper at the end of the day.
TAP Tempo Mod❤👌. Wonder if it works for Boss DD8 and Boss DD200?
Anyone else super curious about- A) How many TSA employees took this personally, and/or- B) took it as a challenge?
I wouldn’t be surprised if, right after this video was released, the owner of this board suddenly started being “randomly selected for more thorough screening” on almost every flight.
Solid video, and very clever/helpful ideas. So if I’m correct in my assumptions, thank you for taking one for the team. You sir, are a true American hero.
I guess we'll see - according to Ben it's been untouched since this video went live.
Where can I get that buffering system? So dope!!
Samuelsonfranz We made that one custom for Ben, however I think that mesa boogie makes a really good one that you can buy right out of the box, called the high wire
I have my pedal board completely silent thanks to you until I decided to add my old crybaby. I now get a hum constantly. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks ahead.
Gregory Hill Sr If it’s anywhere near a power supply you can get hum coming off of the transformer that interferes with the inductor in the wah. Step one would be to isolate it from the power supply, if that’s not the issue, try it on battery and see if the noise goes away.
I heard that Tennessee Jed ya hippie.
That was for Gabby Bergman lol!
I was thinking Cosmic Charlie, but you're right. Let's head back to Tennessee, Jed!
JerkyTreat hahaha
This board is incredible! Do you do consultations? I need help from the rig doctor.
Sure, you can ask your question here or if you want to email me, info@vertexeffects.com
What do you use for locking pedals in? Velcro or dual lock or something else ?
Dual Lock with two different densities, all linked in the description box.
Hey man, I'm just getting into building pedal boards and was wondering where I should start. Any videos or forums that you would recommend?
Jake Joyner Check out Rhett Shull’s channel, but I would say mostly here is going to be tutorial best, and you can always ask questions in the comments or email us and we’re happy to direct you
Jake Joyner Check out Rhett Shull’s channel, but I would say mostly here is going to be tutorial-based, and you can always ask questions in the comments or email us and we’re happy to direct you
What is the maximum dimension for a flying pedalboard?
Is there any chance that the TSA will go through this pelican and start unplugging and taking out pedals to inspect them?
Sure, but it’d be pretty difficult to get leverage with the current set up. So far it’s been a few month and way fewer issues reported by Ben.
Beautiful board, but still scary af when it comes to TSA disassembly and damage potential. Love how clean it’s wired, but the looming nightmare of pre-gig reassembly remains. Unless I’ve missed something. My philosophy is build it so it CAN be easily pulled apart by TSA without damaging the pedals and wiring and then quickly reassembled. Having every audio and power cable measured to the molecular degree and zip tied like that is BEAUTIFUL, but once that’s ripped apart, you are fuct on the gig, IMO.
I guess the proof is in the pudding - it’s still in perfect shape hundreds of gigs later.
Vertex Effects I'm glad!!
Joe Cefalu me too
Hey Rig Doc , can you show us how you did the mono mix stuff ? It seems very useful and it will help us a lot . Thank you =)
Watch your video on stereo to mono SUMMING, basically I don’t approve of doing this, but some people want it anyway because they don’t understand that you can’t combine Stereo into mono using external hardware, effects pedals themselves are not designed for this.
@@VertexEffectsInc Well that was FAST ! Thank you so much . Can you please show the fav switch/tap tempo mod ?
There’s a diagram for it that’s posted on our website
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you . I'll check it out . =)
14:25 "So, basically same as before, just smaller." So this is TSA "proof" how? Was anything explicitly done to make it easier for the TSA to inspect?
Well...I suppose the proof is in the pudding. The rig, up until COVID, hand't been touched with weekly travel. I think the biggest part is having as much sensitive stuff under the riser (bridge), and locking cables and pedals down as much as possible with tie down mounts. The combination thereof, whether you agree or not, seemed to work out for Ben. His rig was disassembled 80% of his flights, and last year, none.
hello, is the boss volume pedal boss fv30h good ?, what is your feedback on this pedal?
thanks.
I like it
awesome
Thanks for watching!
Love when Uncle Mason talks gear to me 🤤😂
Hahahaha
Here I was thinking that my 60cm by 44cm pedal board was big... (granted it has a 60cm by 17cm shelf on top) but this guys pre-upgrade board is huge
Hi! What’s the exact board size you ordered from GOMC (including the metal binding)? I have the same Pelican case, and looking to go a little bigger with my pedalboard. Thanks
I don't remember the dimensions...I'll see if I can get Ben to check in.
The board that was built in this video is 28×12
What made the old pedal board a TSA nightmare? How is this pedal board TSA proof? I think I missed that explanation in the video. Just curious......
James Carreras Hey James! Thanks for watching! This is a question that’s been brought up in a few different places in the comments, perhaps the error is in me not arcing back to the thesis more frequently throughout the video, but the main objectives in creating what I’m calling a TSA proof rig, has to do with suggestions that Benjamin wanted me to implement based on his experience over the last several years with PSA. These are things like covering up all inputs and outputs using the second row tier to protect the first row of pedals. Mounting the heavier pedals, I like the volume pedal through the board with bolts. Creating a really tight fit between every pedal so there’s limited options to get hands or fingers to separate the equipment from the board, but moreover large equipment and large cases are a target for many TSA agents, so reducing size and weight where ever possible was also strategic. Any places where there were open spaces, especially on the back, we mounted handles to make it difficult to sit fingers beyond a certain point underneath the board where any sort of leverage could be had to pull something off. Again as I do more of these videos all understand have a sequence it better to park back to the original purpose of the video, I apologize if it hit the mark for you, but hopefully you learn something and less you can apply to your own rig I mean I’m happy to hear suggestions and other things you’d like to see in future and I greatly appreciate your feedback.
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you for the long explanation, the board looked amazing, tight build, tight meaning compact. I appreciate the craftsmanship. My nephew wants to be a rock star, and has massed himself a collection of pedals searching for tone. I'm sure a pedal board build is in his future. Thanks again.
James Carreras Awesome James! Thank you so much for having a look at the video, hopefully we can earn your subscription, and that your nephew was able to build a great board with some of the tutorials here!
@@VertexEffectsInc I have been thinking about making a small board using 2 of the new Tech21 RK 5 Fly Rig's on it. Richie Kotzen uses two chained together with a Wah pedal on a small board for his fly dates. He wants to use all the features, so he has two working at the same time. Good idea. Something like this would be near bulletproof due to having very few cables and by its small size.
TJ Nugent thanks for watching! It’s fine if you’re tied to that exact setup he uses if you’re any Richie Kotzen cover band or similar. He is so amazing, but also very stylized, I don’t know that there’s a lot of crossover between several genres with this particular set up. But if you’re trying to do anything along the lines that Benjamin is doing, there’s no way something like this would work, this would be more along the lines of a one off fly in date for something very specific, say a blues gig or something like that, I can’t see being able to do a lot of contemporary music with his set up, although it works great for him and sounds great for what he’s doing.
Where can I get an interface like that?
We have some videos on how to DIY one just like this and also shows several other options as well!
I literally need help. Just got a mondo voodoo power, and I’m having trouble with the order of my pedals, and cables. Your videos rule. Do you do FaceTime or anything?
Gabriel, just hit you on the other comment. There shouldn't be any order issues with respect to your power supply, you're welcome to email us and I can hit you back with some suggestions or just comment here and we'll get to it usually in 48 hours with a response.
Thank you for so much great advice. Is that tier custom made? There's no link for it.
Should be in the description box under lifts/risers
@@VertexEffectsInc I went to that link. There are risers for individual pedals, but nothing like that kick ass tier that you installed.
@@derekslam you can message them directly for custom orders. All of these are "off menu" and made to order.
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you very much.
What’s good with that old timeline? Dm me!
Jonathan Bradford hahaha talk to Ben Forehand!
What model of case is the Pelican Air?
1615
That is a beautiful looking pedalboard
Thanks Benjamin! Hope you subscribe and continue to get more content like this! Thanks again for watching!
Do you need a Interface box with buffer or can it be with out it??
Josue Guajardo interface, not required - buffers - definitely needed
Vertex Effects I do have a buffer. But just want it to know if the guitar interface had to have one
Josue Guajardo there are three buffers in in it. Input buffer, output buffer (left), and output buffer (right). The interface houses the buffers and does all the signal routing for entire rig.
Ayyye Tennessee Jed 8:45
yes!!!!
Another tip that I recently heard about in order to save your rig from TSA was to include a laminated thank you note to tsa for keeping everyone safe and doing their job well! I’ve heard someone say that since they started including a note, tsa hasn’t ripped their board apart, but instead inspected it neatly.
Jonathan Holt worth a try
Is that I/O interface/buffer custom built or could I find one for myself?
I built it custom - has single input buffer, dual output buffer, with a custom mixer for the mono. If you want a dual buffer I recommend the Mesa Boogie High Wire
Vertex Effects thank you so much. Just recently discovered your videos after watching Rhett Shull and I really appreciate the help they’ve given me on my current board in progress.
Can you do a video on how you did the tap tempo / favorite switch mod? That would be really cool to see!
Good idea! We should!
Hey Mason, I'm having problems with my wah pedal making noise when my foot just touches the wah. I don't even have to turn it on. I have tried swapping cables, but nothing works. Any ideas? I would appreciate it.
post a video of the problem and send me the link here. Unlisted video. Try it with a battery, with only the guitar and amp connected.
@@VertexEffectsInc thank you sir! I will try it and send you a link.
👍👍👍. Post it here when you do so I can have a look
@@VertexEffectsInc will do!
@@brandonrash2577 perfect!
Do not take this wrongly, the board and all of the wiring looks stunning and I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but how is this more TSA proof than the old board? I might be misunderstanding the whole point here, but if the TSA officers want to investigate, they investigate and start pulling off pedals I guess? Whether there is more space for them to do so or not.
Jan V I hear what you’re saying, but again as mentioned in earlier comments, the overwhelming majority of players have reported that the more complicated it is to remove products from the board, the less the items on the board are disturbed. Also reducing the size, and the weight, in some cases would allow for this rig to be taken as carry on, and bypassing the entire system. Again, I don’t claim to be an expert on TSA, nor an expert on understanding the execution of the various parameters that officers are to implement. However, players that fly regularly, Ben included, have said that the making things more difficult for the removal of items is the best possible way to build your board and ensure minimal disruption in between flights.
I would have unscrewed the base plates, used that as a template to drill holes in the pedal board, then put the base plate back but having the screw going through the pedal board. TSA could unplug top mounted jacks and power, but would not be able to move anything else.
@@rarnaud I've done that, but it makes it hard to change pedals without having a "Swiss Cheese" pedalboard at the end of it. Ben wanted to be able to move some stuff possibly, and with the SJ3550 and SJ3551 in tandem, it's impossible to get off by hand.
Where can i buy short trs cables?
Cameron Padovese talk to the folks at Revelation Cable Company revelationcablecompany.com
Mason, is that a Pelican Air 1615 case?
Yep
Quick question: Is that a vertex made super slim patch bay or where did you get it?
Dustin Box yes, it’s our buffer/interface/mixer
@@VertexEffectsInc that is so perfect. Is that something that is available online? I'm gonna check the site for it now. But let me know if its a special build. I think it would work better than what I have for my next board build.
Dustin Box Hey man! Yeah it’s something I just do specially for these one off projects, I don’t make anything like it on a production scale. If you wanted something like this, I would recommend the Mesa Boogie High Wire buffered patchbay. It’s a really good solution with excellent buffers, with separate input and output buffers and a tuner out.
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks I definitely will check it out. Thanks for jumping in the comments!! It means a lot!!
Dustin Box Of course, hoping to build a nice space with a lot of good curated content for people that are interested in DIY pedalboards, hoping to get some information where there’s not a lot of it available on CZcams.
Do you have a website to get a board made?
We don’t have a dedicated website for the Pedalboard thing because it’s not really a service that we offer other than to friends and artists that we already work with, and primarily for the purpose of teaching people how to fish. In other words equipping you with the knowledge and materials to build your own at the same quality that I’m doing. Pedals are our business, however you can always email us at info@vertexeffects.com
I’d be super cautious about putting my pedals that close together (unless all the connections are on back of all pedals). Pain in the ass finding a bad cable when pedals are so close together.
I hear ya on that, but typically these cables, if built properly won't fail. Typically the jacks on the pedals will fail before the plugs or cables do, and in that event, I like using car upholstery tools to get pedals off since it wont damage the pedals, nor the dual lock velcro when you remove since they're essentially plastic crow bars. The space savings, to me, is more valuable than the increased size you'd need to clear the jack from every pedal.
Where do you get those boards?
Enki Ea here ya go: czcams.com/video/pA7WRP_zyfg/video.html
How much to make me a board with my existing pedals ?
Hey Luis, for builds, email us info@vertexeffects.com and we can discuss more.
Vertex Effec
In 1998 The airport guys gave me shit about a wah wah pedal I bought in denver. I had to sing the wakka wakka sound to get them to understand what it does
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What?? I'm shocked, I knew that TSA is bad, but tearing apart pedalboards is a whole new level of idiocy, what a bunch of morons! Anyway, nice work, as always.
Miha Zupančič I’ve heard horror stories, not just Ben. Ben’s biggest issue was pedals removed from the pedalboard and then placed loose in the case before a flight so it jiggles around in the case all flight long, damaging knobs, defacing pedals, etc.
@@VertexEffectsInc This legitimately sends shivers down my spine, I will certainly remember this video if I ever need to transport any of my gear via airplane.
Are the bigsky and specular tempus in series?
Yes
@@VertexEffectsInc cool! The bigsky is going into the tempus?
Juliana Neumann yes
Where can I buy the Pelicans case?
Amazon
OR...Mason could buy up a bunch of them, rebrand them as his own, and sell them to you at twice the price. Wouldn't be the first time. Caveat emptor.
Zeke is the goodest boy.
Yea he is!!!
Love your videos!!
Can you tell me where I can buy the interface box? Especially the stereo/mono configuration interested me!
Alex Groen Those are all made custom, and are pretty involved, I would recommend getting something premade like the high wire from Mesa boogie. It’s far is the interface box itself you can purchase that from electronics store like Fry’s electronics
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks!
@@VertexEffectsInc Most of all, I'm searching for a box that let's me choose between and connect to mono and stereo, so that I won't have to rewire my board if I have to play a gig where mono is the only option.
Alex Groen The reality is, that those mono sum boxes never quite get it right because the presumption is that all the pedals are mixed 50% left and 50% right. The reality is, that in order to create dimensionality, many stereo pedals are not mixed evenly, and even in some cases will have different polarity on one side. The idea of mixing these evenly at 50-50 is a problem, and even though I’ve put some of them on interfaces, I’ve had to build a customized mixer to get the best possible sound, but even then it is a compromise and I feel that the consumer would do better if they created separate patches for hard panned mono set ups and stereo set ups rather than the mono sum.
Is there a reason why you don't put power in your interfaces? Seems like a good idea to put a powercon in there, so the powerconnection for the entire rig is safe and secured :-)
Jonas Gravlund the reason is noise, typically I try to keep AC as far away from the audio signal as possible.
@@VertexEffectsInc Okay, seems reasonable! :-) Would it still be an issue if the powersupply was on the other side of the board, opposite to the interface?
Or would it be possible to shield the ac inside the interface?
Yep you have to bring the AC over to the interface somehow, the more you can isolate from the audio the better for noise
Shielding wont solve it - interference with other pedals and cabling outside of the interface will also be problematic.
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also, fyi i live in OFFICIALLY the freest country in the world - recognized worldwide.
jack benson You’re so much better than the rest of us!
Does summing the stereo signal cause phase cancelation?
wordsworthjlang There can often be phasing issues, I don’t typically recommend doing any sort of summing, because the presumption is that both left and right channels are at a 50% mix. This isn’t always the case especially with more dimensional settings, often with one of the sides with a inverted phase and at a lesser mix on one side. What I recommend doing is creating a group of presets design for a mono rig, hard panning the left side of the effect.
where did you get the interface?
Chris OsborneBand we made it custom for this rig
what do you charge for that interface?
Chris OsborneBand I don’t typically sell them directly, because they’re all made for specific rigs that I am building in total. I can recommend some really high-quality over-the-counter ones if you tell me what kind of stuff you’re looking for.
@@VertexEffectsInc plz do I have a really nice board being built but your interface has some great options
@@chrisosborneband4941 I think the best stand-alone buffer is the Mesa Boogie High Wire, so definitely start there, beyond and input and output buffer, what do you need?
8:13 soundcheck sounds like a Dave Matthews song.
Sweet! Love some DMB
This is such a problem for me. TSA usually ends up costing me between 500-1000 dollars a year. I'm in LA man how do I enter some sort of waiting list to see the doctor? I have a board with some interesting concepts that I don't think he has covered yet.
Tap tempo by a volume pedal is a big no no from what ive learned.
JettyDeke Probably hard to tell from the perspective that you have from the camera, but that switch is about as low as it can possibly go, and this is a place where Ben is used to having it, so it’s difficult for me to redirect a preference of a player.
Where did you get that riser shelf? I need one.
mattfetters link in description! From Fix Pedalboards. You can contact them directly for custom sizes.
Awesome. Thank you!
Awesome. Thank you!
mattfetters anytime
How is this TSA proof? Didn't really change anything other than layout. Looks like a normal build to me.
No spaces between pedals, anywhere that hands can get leverage = easy for TSA to disrupt your pedalboard. The tiered second row also overlays the cabling on the front row to protect that, so no removal of cables, or pedals. Back row was the most susceptible to TSA issues, so in all the gaps we added handles to eliminate gaps under the tier and near the volume pedal so that it would make it difficult to unplug or remove pedals. It also doesn't hurt that we made it more travel friendly by reducing the overall travel weight by almost 20% and removed 168 square inches in total size from the board while adding more pedals to the rig. Hope that helps clarify.
That to me means that TSA may need to put stronger hands to check whether this is a menace or not. You are saying that TSA will give up if they find it difficult to investigate which is the opposite actually. Good luck
Mariano Fernandez I don’t know the exact parameters that TSA sets, my understanding is it’s own most regional in the execution of some of the parameters and regulations. However, anecdotally, players have reported that the more difficult it is to remove things, the less problematic they find the condition of their boards at the end of a trip. Perhaps this is superstitious, perhaps I have a bad sample size, but in my mind what the customer dictates takes first precedent.
@@VertexEffectsInc I get what you're saying, but it's not actually TSA proof. I think myself and others are commenting this way because your video title appears to promise advice on building a better rig for fly dates, but at the end it wasn't anything we didn't know. Not tryna be a jerk, but just a heads up. Be careful with those CZcams titles.
The intent of the rig, dictated by the customer (Ben), was to make the rig as travel friendly and impervious to TSA mishaps. Ben laid out the issues he had, specially with pedals being removed that had more space around them, zip ties being removed, cables being disconnected. To mitigate this, he and others who’ve attempted to TSA proof their rigs, made the pedalboards as compact as possible, thereby reducing weight as a byproduct, but more importantly, making cables difficult to access or dismantle. With that in mind, the thesis of the build was around TSA Proofing the pedalboard. Now if that wasn’t illustrated sufficiently, it’s perhaps more a reflection of my editing more explicitly around the thesis than what actually took place. From where the recipient, Ben, is standing, the mark was hit. As a viewer, sound like it missed the mark for you. All as I can say, is that I’ll do better in the future, I’m still getting the hang of how to shoot and sequence these videos, so I appreciate the feedback. Nevertheless, I hope you watched and walked away with something tangible you can apply to your own rig. Thanks for the feedback!
First insertion... LOL
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Vemuram and Big Sky ❤️
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Could you make more in depth videos on how you do your pedalboards? I would really like to know how you do it so I can replicate the process
I hope I’m not the 1millionth guy to point out the guy who owns the boards’ name is Mr B.Forehand 😝😅😂
Phil Edgar In all seriousness, it never occurred to me
Vertex Effects well in that case, I’m delighted with myself! Love the videos, keep it up!
@@philedgar9745 Thanks Phil! Hope we've earned your subscription!
put a car battery inside, wire it to ground and they wont touch it again.
northern accent wow! That would be bad! Somehow I think that would come back to bite us.
That isn’t TSA proof....won’t they still tear it apart?
Never happened again and Ben got a good 18 months on it before COVID. Not once was it touched.
So, what was it about the old rig that caused them to break it?
I mean, at the beginning of the video I was expecting you to break out the Kevlar zip ties ;-).
Hahaha. How random. I know Benjamin Forehand personally.
Raleigh Dent Company That’s amazing! I’m sure he’ll be happy that you commented! Thanks for watching!