Greenhouse update: trout pond 2.0 and aquaponics
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Today's update includes the new Trout Pond and Strawberry Trellis. the Solar System continues to run well. We have managed to keep the Greenhouse in the low 90's F on hot days where temperature in Springville exceed 100 F. Let me know if you have any comments or suggestions.
Greenhouse kit: Greenhouseinthesnow.com
Fans, Blowers: greenhousemegastore.com
It is a good day when we get a greenhouse update! I love seeing these videos, thank you for posting them!
Thank you!
Love this. The above grade entrance leading to the below grade grow room will minimize flooding for mine. Thanks for the idea. We're all in this together. Good luck.
This is what I am showing for what I want to build.
Best one I have seen yet.
this is a great greenhouse!
thank you for sharing.
This is great! I built a frugal geothermal greenhouse and have been planning to add rainbow trout in an aquaponics system. I like the hydro system above the tank and the water feature. Might have to try something like that. Cheers
Looking beautiful
I like this greenhouse building idea so far the best seen. Well done . Just could be more productive.
I'm with GP! Notice of a new post from "Trail Break" makes my day better. Always such inspiring info. And I love what you are doing on the outside back wall! You are really learning to optimize your space. Finding all the little micro-zones and what does well where. I am impressed with your ability to keep temp in low 90s. Using living heat loving plants for the shade is working well! Thanks for sharing your discoveries and challenges. I love the water feature and strawberry addition.
Thanks John!
Great vids, I have Greenhouse Envy! Thanks for the update! What you are doing keeps my mind working on what I can do on my little place.
to clean the pond glass/window one of those magnetic scrubbers might work really well.
Burm up the north side with a wall of dirt and plant bamboo on it to create even more of a buffer.
Bamboo Garden North Plains Oregon
yep. the more you burm up the north side the better. I went as high as I dared go.
bamboo outside? or what do you mean?
@@bakmaratya1963 the bamboo hedge will buffer out some of the wind along with the mounted Earth and what happens is the temperatures inside are more sable and fluctuate less able to grow more fruits.
@@OzkAltBldgCo-bv8tt but wont the bambo die back during winter when its less then minus 10 degrees Celsius?
@@OzkAltBldgCo-bv8tt do you think planting winter hardy bananas would also serve the same purpose?
Good day. I would suggest you keep the water covered or your going to have allot of humidity in the summer . It will creat not only green fungus in the water but it will creat a powder mildew on all your plants. You can use a dehumidifier to your system but you will just be adding more things to go wrong in your green house. Good luck.
We are so hot during Summer that we run the fans more, which makes it too dry inside the GH so we welcome the Humidity.
You are doing such a fantastic job! I am seriously considering following in your footsteps but in my location in Missouri. I’m a partially physically disabled woman and need a hobby that keeps me busy, attracts people, and allows me to help my community with food security. You have genuinely inspired me. I found you today but priced my greenhouse in the snow yesterday! You are growing each tropical tree/plant I’ve considered. Can you consult for me? I am expecting to break ground and erect greenhouse before winter 2021.
thank you. Happy to help and answer any questions you have.
I am a new subscriber and would love to know what the price break down is on your set up. I think this is fantastic and I am so happy for you!
I have spent about $35,000 and that includes the solar ($7300) and the aquaponics ($4000) which are not necessary. It would be easy to build this for less. I will put a cost break down together showing each cost.
Great setup, can you show the pipes over the fish tank in more detail. How is the Geothermal doing?
I forget how long your greenhouse is, but if I remember, it’s shorter than 96-102’ (the length that Greenhouse in the Snow recommends for greatest efficiency) I’m trying to decide if I should build longer than 84’ (the length my county permit office allows without involving planning and zoning...lots of extra cost and it adds to the length of the project as well) Do you wish that yours were longer?
Yes, once I plant the Aquaponics, I'll do a better video and show the pipes in detail. Geothermal is doing better. We had to remove water from some of the pipes but I'm happy with them. They are great for cooling.
@@melodycampbell2501 Mine is 72' long and I love the length. I've talked to others who are longer. I'm not sure there is an ideal length other than what works best for you. Many wish they were bigger because they want to plant more but mine works great for me. Good luck with whatever you decide.
@@trailbreakfarms We are in the process of building one that is also 72' and we didn't finish before winter hit here in MN so we are also worried about water in the pipes. Would love to connect with you and compare notes, let me know if you're interested. Thanks for sharing your videos, they've been very encouraging!
I live up in Logan. Do you do tours of your setup? I would love to see it some time
I am planning on a tour this Fall. I need to do a better job of making it available for others to see.
Live in Springville and would also be interested in a tour
@@trailbreakfarms I appreciate the sentiment, but it’s also your property! We thank you for sharing on CZcams. But also please don’t feel like you are beholden to provide tours. Most of us are just living vicariously through your hard work. It’s a huge undertaking to build one of these, but it’s so unique it’s hard to not want to see it in person, especially closer to home than Nebraska! I have loved seeing the progress unfold!
Do you wish you would have built your greenhouse longer? I’m looking to buy a kit from Greenhouse in the Snow which recommends 96-102’ for greatest efficiency. My county will allow an 84’ without involving planning and zoning or requiring engineered blueprints. I’m trying to decide if it’s worth the hassle to build it bigger than 84’. I wondered what your thoughts are since you’ve built the kit and have got yours going. Thanks for the videos and input!
My kit is 72' long and its perfect for me. I am happy with the length. I do know that once completed, many Owners wish they were bigger because they want to plant more. I think you would be very happy with 84'. Lots you can do with that.
@@trailbreakfarms Thank you!
You might want to get some greenhouse blankets to go over your greenhouse at night in the winter.
Should save you a lot of money
It runs on Solar so I'm good.
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True.
But they are worth every penny.
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Check out what they are doing other places.
My great grandma was known to use quilts on her greenhouse.
But she never thought of a system like you pulled off.
I can't wait to see how you grow with it.
You might try to punt him your site while you check out him.
He definitely looked through the CZcams Library.
Best of Luck.
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Video is simply tech channel...
looks like energy is free in your country...
Do u show how to build this? I'm tryin to build a green house and a permaculture koi pond inside it 💯
This is great! I've designed a somewhat similar system to this.
I have a couple questions about the system;
Is the filtration system working well? Would you have made the solids filter larger?
How many icb flood/drain beds do you think that pond could feed?
New update would be great!
filtration works well. needs to be cleaned regularly. It would support many more beds but not sure how many. challenge would be constantly feeding enough water into the grow beds and having too many may be a problem but you could just circulate more water.
Looks great! Any geothermal heat sources?
yes we have tubes that are 8 feet deep and run 250 feet around the yard.
Really appreciate your videos. Thank you for sharing! Quick question … what is the dimension of your Greg house? I watched a couple times but didn’t catch your actual layout.
17x72
Hi. Greetings from Tasmania, Australia. Sorry, beside lava rock, what are you using for the grow beds please. Just wondering how you plan to harvest the strawberrys as it seems high off the ground. Paul
Hi Paul. We have lava rock and Hydroton (clay pellets). I am going to experiment with a Sand bed next. In regards to the Strawberries, I built the pond so that I can climb up on the window and the upper ledge to get around and harvest those Strawberries. So far so good!
Don’t some of these have a pipe in the peak that circulates through the floor? I’m just curious why you didn’t do that too.
we did not do that with pipes. Instead, we put vents at the top of the Greenhouse.
Are the plants underneath the passionfruit still getting suffient sunlight for growing and setting fruit? How do those plants compare growthwise to previous year?
Great question. I've been worried about too much shade underneath the passionfruit. I could thin it out but have let it go nuts. Trees seem to be doing fine underneath although I moved a Fig and a Citrus to the other side.
@@trailbreakfarms Yeah I suppose it would depend a lot on the needs of the plants themselves. Maybe you could keep the part where the slope changes more or less clear and instead allow the passionfruit to grow along the length of the greenhouse instead. That way a similar area would be covered but the more sun would reach the lower plants, depending on the angle of the sun. Just some thoughts, thanks for the update & I love what you're doing with it.
I checked back through your videos but didn’t see any info on your retaining wall materials for the grow beds inside? Is it cedar and metal siding? Did you cement the posts in? Thanks
yes. Cedar posts are placed deep into ground. Because I have a hard clay soil, I didn't use cement. If you have any kind of a sandy/light soil, you would consider cement. On the back wall, in hindsight, I should have built a retaining wall with a rock that retains heat to help with heating during Winter. The wall is shaded during Summer.
@@trailbreakfarms thank you I am considering flex MSE retaining walls. I need to do a little more research on doing that as an alternative to a more conventional wall.
Hi, It looks like your greenhouse significantly wider than some of the examples pictured on the greenhouse in the snow website. Is that an option you specified before purchase?
My GH is 17' x 72'. The Greenhouse in the Snow is always 17 wide but you can go longer or shorter in sections of 6'
@@trailbreakfarms interesting, thanks for the reply. I guess it's just this first image here that is causing my confusion greenhouseinthesnow.com/greenhouse-kits
What are the dimensions of the greenhouse?
17x72
What did you use for soil in the grow beds in your greenhouse?
I replaced the existing cover by removing about a foot of dirt. I got a load of soil from a neighboring Farmer as a replacement. If you were talking about the Aquaponic Grow beds, those are Hydroton and Lava Rock.
@@trailbreakfarms thanks! I was talking about your regular beds. I am not planning to get into the other growing mediums.
Just sub’d to your channel. It looks like you have a great set up. A couple of questions for you…based on what you said about valuing the shade from some of your trees, do you wish that the greenhouse in the snow design didn’t provide as much overhead sunlight (ie solid roofing on top vs Lexan). Secondly, have you considered doing a grow set up like the Dutch bucket method?
I think the "Greenhouse in the Snow" design is a great amount of sunlight. I like the overall design. With any Greenhouse, its important to help it mature with trees and plants which help with the cooling and that takes time. As far a solid roofing - I think you could take a storage container and use LED lighting and other methods for heating and cooling if that were of interest. I have had many recommendations and comments about the Dutch Bucket method. I've thought about trying it out one of these days. Seems like it works great for those who use it.
@@trailbreakfarms thank you for your insights.
I purchased plans from Green House in the snow. I am just saving up for land purchase. Before finding this video I wondered if it would be possible to hat a trout box. I know people have setup for tilapia but trout would be great if it can be kept cool in the water. If I ever get land - I really think you would provide great input during building. Has anyone reached out to you for help on starting?
Does not trout like fast water? A bottom feeder like carp, tilapia or goldfish is more likely to survive in such a box.
@@Cyclonut96 was thinking adding current in the box.
Hi I'm about to build one of these in Heber City this fall. Would it be possible to come visit your greenhouse and pick your brain one if these days before I start?
yes. send me an email to work out details. steve@amsource.com
Can you build a Greenhouse that uses Geothermal heating and cooling as well as being an Aquaponic Greenhouse?
Absolutely. That's what we have.
Why leave the trees in pots?
Great question. I have some trees in the ground and others in pots. Some of the smaller trees have struggled in the ground and do better in pots. I've also got some trees that seem to do better in one area and worse in another forcing me to move them. My goal is to have them all in the ground at some point.
How short do you expect those bananas to be? 😁
They are a dwarf variety. I'm hoping they grow to the ceiling. Time will tell.
Just wonder why you doing all that? Looks like not much productive exept energy consumption. Asking becouse never seen trees in a greenhouse instead of vegetables before. I'm guessing you're not dependent 😅on the amount of food you produce yourself, just something like a hobby
Its a hobby. I really wanted to be able to grow year round. And grow what I want.
Plans for ur greenhouse...?