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- World of Tanks - AMX 50 B. Today the enemy team will ask just how did juhani_28 get there!
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Hi everyone! Just wanted to clarify my position and the purpose of this video.
I personally think accessing these positions needs to be patched at the earliest convenience by Wargaming. As I said in the video they ruin the game for the other 29 players.
This video intended to spread awareness around boosting, show the impact it can have and to gather your feedback surrounding the issue.
I don't think these positions need to be removed, so much as WG should rather try and make a similarly reachable, (but difficult) positions available on both ends of the maps
QuickyBaby glad you share this view, the amount of battles I've seen people sit there all game whilst enemy wipe us out leaving them useless and irrevelant for the majority of the battle. also on artic region I noticed someone got a udes up on the high mountain at the north east spawn. albeit a great position which won the battle for them, I agree with it being removed amongst these other "novelty" positions
why didn't you show detailed report? would like to know how much credits he lost shooting all those apcrs.
did WG ordered you not to show those sick numbers?
damir505 You are new here do you?
It is an Exploit. It is the same case as T-22 SR mission rigging. Whenever I see player doing something like that (it happened sometimes but very rarely) I simply report them, no matter if they are at my or enemy team.
The red team had 6 tanks left at one point.
All they had to do was cap with one tank while all the others work together to put fire on the ridge that the AMX 50B had to get onto to fire down into the cap.
There were several very good players on the red team. All it took was a bit of teamwork.
But of course its world of tanks so there was no team effort.
Actually if they all went into cap they would win during a reload
digglyda I can't tell if it's you complaining that the player was just lucky or you just being jealous, in these kind of situation, every thing can happen, you make it look so easy but in the heat of battle you would fear that your team mates doesn't work with your *brilliant* strategy
U don t see this all day, maybe it s the first time and they don t know what to do.
I miss this map. I would literally spend hours in training rooms just climbing up there.
But unfortunately jerks like that 50b we just watched ruined it for everyone
I personally LOVE those rare battles when we have a mountain goat. Its funny and this is a game.
3x UDES in this spot recently, we haf no chance
Ewwww. That makes me so glad i dont play this shit game anymore.
called HE. They can't take a hit anywhere using it.
Nytracus lol
@@lazaruslong697 Doesn't matter now, they made it impossible to ever get close to these positions anymore. All the maps are locked off outside of the main combat area
unless the other side has a similar position over their cap and surrounding areas and have the tanks that can get to it, it gives one side a clear advantage. Good level design always ensures maps are symmetrical in advantages and disadvantages.
Mr Huff'n'Puff that's a great idea then no one can say that the game is unfair
Well said Mr. Huff"n"Puff
Mines is good for this. The huge easter mountain on 1-3 lines can be climbed from both spawns. One of the better climbing spots in my opinion
I agree with the OP. What did the Ru 251 contribute for most of the battle - they seemed to be driving around not doing very much. Players waste a lot of time getting into these positions rather than supporting the rest of the team.
they do mate. just takes time to learn them.
enemy: hey look a mountain goat
whats game breaking is gold ammo.
MORE PEN = LESS DAMAGE
LESS PEN = MORE DAMAGE
@@xcvzq not rly 😂 as far as I know they want to increase DMG with standard rounds and increase HP of vehicles but they are not changing prem ammo DMG... But I agree this guy should work for wg 😂
It was super good for blitz. So many tanks were op because they were able to delete their last weakness by spamming „Premmo“ a Comet or a pre all nerf T-54 with the broken heat for example
@@streetracingsyndicate9512 wot is broken, many tech tree tanks were removed
Low tier got badly nerfed till its unplayable
@@user-jk6jn9cl6x that low tier change was stupid by wargaming. They should bring low tier back. They just made it worse... it is now easier to seal club because all low tier tanks got nerved except the collectors and the infamous ke ni otsu and because now there are almost only newbies on low tier. I have tried it i had a 90% wr in a bt-sv over 100 battles which should not be possible XD they made the new players rush tech trees which results in still absolute noobs playing top tier...
2 years later they won a blitz tournament thanks to these boosts
Berkay T really? Do you have a link
they did, i remember watching it, they pushed a grille out of bounds and he won the game
Grille on top of a hill in fort dispair. Got the whole team to push him up but it worked out. Ez match
It works a bit different in Blitz overall, but it often has the same result is the same
@@sadenuttie2234 Hey, you still want it?
*gets the best MM available*
*loads gold*
Don't forget "abuses exploit" :D
Such skill, many advantage, wow!
pay to win. AHAHHAA
Well he isn't really a good player. So its expected.
How is this the best MM available for the 50 B? Most tanks in the enemy team were heavies (including a Maus, a Type 4, a VK B and an E 75) while the driver of a 50 B would prefer more mediums with soft armor.
Wargaming should probably remove these types of map exploits, but it's not in any way cheating for players to take advantage of them as long as they're available. If something is included in a game, whether intentional or not, there's absolutely nothing wrong with players using that technique. People should do whatever it takes to win as long as they aren't hacking, colluding, botting, or using unauthorized mods. I don't care if some players think a particular tactic is dirty or unfair or dishonorable or whatever. If it gets results, it's the right thing to do.
These spots are supposed to be inaccessible. That would make it an exploit, not a cheat, but tomato tomah-toe. It is bad for the game and makes it unplayable in certain situations. What you call it doesn't make it any better.
Actually FYI it's toe-may-toe and tomato.
Even if it was meant to be inaccessible, it is WG's responsibility to make it inaccessible. Since they are not doing so, it means that they want to promote use of such terrain. Exploits should be fixed ASAP, otherwise, it's not really an exploit.
Some of these spots have invisible walls making them inaccessible on console. Not all of them though
Well said
easy position to counter... one has to cap and the rest of the team just sit back and nuke the booster when they try to reset
And when it's end game and only 1 or 2 people alive from the South Spawn? This map is broken.
"Easy to counter! You only need a high amount of team coordination in a online multiplayergame, and for there to be no other enemies nearby; and it's easy to counter that single enemy player!"
That would be easy but there is a thing called co-ordination and it dosent exist in this game
If only people were intelligent enough to actually cap and preaim the boost.
I think that if a boost is available for one side of the map providing an advantage, there needs to be some compensation on the other side of the map such as another respective boost or extra cover of some sort. There also needs to be some sort of counterplay to the boost itself, whether that means the boost entrance is right out in the open, or that the mountains are changed a bit so that from some angles players will have shots into it.
You are thinking it wrong. Both teams have different climbs available. And if you are able to climb, you can use the same path. It's about climbing skill. Check Xaneleons channel.
Hunter Bartek There is a counter for a guy sitting still on top of a mountain, it's called Artillery! Oh wait....you all had it nerfed. Guess "artillery discourages camping" was true after all, eh?
You did watch WG League, right? You know they are using different climbs there?
I didn't even want the nerf. Although it did make artillery more bearable to play IMO. But thanks for assuming my opinion without giving credence to the fact that everyone has a different mindset.
I never said anythign about gold league or finals??? I was only giving my opinion on how I think they could be improved upon instead of just removing them.
I noticed that 2 crew phrases have vanished from the game. I no longer
hear "Looks like that one went right thru" and " Thats gotta hurt". Any
idea why?
typeviic1 this game was french
@@iamwhoiam8486 wg is a company in Minsk,Belarus so no not french
@@PaganWolf30 he means french tank
@@kisaragi_san1378 bruh he sais '' GAME''
console still has both of those lines, lol
This reminds me of playing in tanks in Arma King of the Hill, where high mountain ridges are both very effective. But in Arma, they are also very risky, due to the large number of potential opportunities to be out flanked by other tanks, wire guided and heat seeking AT missiles. With these positions in WOT, if you hide behind the ridge line, you are 100% safe.
1 min into game, loads gold.
Probably bought QB's new T-shirt
Who cares
noscoper1993
rly
who the fuck cares?? :/
oooooh he loaded gold oooooooooooooh fuck oooooooooooooooooooooooh
you mean 1 second into the game and it was necessary. Did you see this heavily armored butt of the LTTB, hard to pen with a tier 10 heavy ...
The position would be fine if there was any form of counter play to it, but only one side gets a camp hole, there's only one way up, and it's relatively artillery safe and very abusable in most tanks
Smart use of terrain features; which is quite refreshing from pre-set corridors where you have to load to gold to do frontal pen
I think QB was having a jingles moment by mimicing us critics lol well actually quicky, your videos are awesome
Sir Foch disapproves.
that's new
Professor Borsig sirfoch is a tool...and irrelevant now.
Professor Borsig Yo Borsig
You hit me today once.
I felt pain.
SirFoch is a better player than QB, and he is dead honest. He, along with circon, represent the upper skill groups of WoT(2900+ recent wn8). That's why if you go ask any decent player in a top clan, he would find his views more in line with Foch/Circon than QB. Therefore, his opinion matters, a lot.
Capt. β2 and your here for what reason?
Is it a clever use of game mechanics? Yes.
Does/Can it have great implications in the gameplay? Yes.
Should Wargaming fix these positions that were supposed to be inaccessible? Damn right they should...
I've had some games ruined by some a**holes going up there.
Yup, i agree.
Its awesome when 3 or 4 ppl on your team spend half the match trying to get into those spots too. 😆👍
meh
the boosts into the middle of mines is kinda cool, stuff like this is pretty lame i think
Cosmin Tirlea iQ
Only been up there in training battles before, Then all the way around to the big peak in the south west area, Looks amazing.
I know I’m super late to this. But personally on the matter of boosting up places and anything similar on any game. I think yes the developers should patch it ASAP, but anyone who does it while it isn’t patched or finds new ones, can’t be punished or looked down upon (actually they look down upon you with their boosts) they have managed to find a exploit in the game or are using a found exploit. They aren’t cheating or hacking in anyway. Good on them for taking advantage of something broken.
If a tank got buffed in a silly accidental way making it just stupid stupid stupid OP. You wouldn’t call it cheating if people were playing it. It’s just takin advantage of an error. Good on them!
I'd love to see that guy do the same amount of damage with half the premium rounds, and fighting on the actual battlefield.
Ville Lepoaho suomalainen pelaaja joten sitä ei kiinnosta ketää muu
That is an actual battlefield. The fact that noobs cannot get in that positions make them bad players, not this one. Simple as that. Your kill gives you an advantage? Use it. Make 150k profit and buy some gold ammo with it.
azgarogly, that's not the actual battlefield, and that's why it's blacked out on the map. If you were supposed to go there, there would be paths leading there and there would also be bushes and other stuff. It's just an exploit the people have found in the game. Just because you can get there, doesn't mean you're supposed to. Also, you can get there by being in a training room for 5 minutes, or by watching a CZcams video. So I don't think there's a single person who can't get up there. Peace out.
this was reported to wg on patch 9.15 they know about this path even they confirmed it on Q&A they wont be changing this
mimimimimi
When you were young...
I remember watching this video as it was uploaded...
@@WayOfDro yeah same
the fact that not all tanks can get up on this locations it's what makes it cool, I like to have some of them
Wow! Great performance. Great review Quicky.
I think this spot is fine seeing as wargaming has a habit of shrinking the size of maps by surrounding them with mountains or putting a giant lake somewhere.
you mean shitting out lackluster and lazy map designs with obvious boring chokepoints
People saying he abandoned the team didn't notice his over 3k damage in support of the middle before he even went up the hill
I know right? He emptied a few clips of APCR in a tier 10 heavy tank, gotta respect the skill.
Wow what a great place to snipe from.
ikr, if i watched this video closer to it being uploaded and played WoT at this time, playing arty or TDs on this position would be hilarious
i think the boost spots are really clever, and it can be very difficult to get it, but when you do it is beautiful
This round would've been way different if there was even one arty on the enemy team
A year later these type of places have all been removed. I think they’d be great to add spots for small light tanks to hide and spot from
agree
agree
This video is one of the OGs
I think it's an interesting use of game mechanics and adds an extra dimension to any game
Since when do yellows take tryhard set ups LUL
Adam Townsend When say yellow do you mean the xvm colour?
yes indeed. Ngl i never expected that people with average stats would play so tryhardy
You dont have to be "Tryhardy" to get to 2450 wn8
lol. When i say tryhard i mean full gold from the start and food. With a cautious dmg farming playstyle. Like how you would play to 3 mark it. And by tryhard i mean going for 4k+ wn8
PS why so TOXIC
Ja M you don't have to be a try hard to be unicum when you can play the game properly..
So player fires gold rounds from the begining even vs scout Check.
Player is probably indirectly responsible for his team crumbling so badly because he wastes so much time in his TOP tier tank trying to mountaingoat.
Player continues to spam gold until he doesn't have one full clip of it left and shoots at the UFP and sides of tanks when he is in a position where basically every shell he fires AP or APCR will go through the roof/ upper hull of the tanks he is shooting at check.
All this replay shows is that with a lot of gold ammo, a broken position .... a lot of luck (bouncing the ISU, the ISU missing, Bouncing the IS4... if these players had spammed gold like him he likely would be dead).... even the scrubbiest of players can end up with epic results.
exactly
except he did 4k damage before he oven got up there. which is better than all of his team at the end of the game. then after that he proceeded to carry his team to a win in an otherwise lost game. gold rounds are in the game so why not use them? if you want gold rounds to be balanced, reduce armor or put in weak spots on op heavy tanks then make it only +1 mm instead of +2. no more prem rounds :DD
And people are salty in the comments because they've never had a game like this..
+German Ball "well its in gaem so why not use it"
Yet where are your "epic results"?
This was beautiful, very well played!
I think that strategy is perfectly fine, it's a good use of mechanics. It also counters the completely broken super heavies who love taking shots; probably weren't expecting the shells falling from on top of them!
One of the best replays i ever seen
And i prefer more locations like this
It's up to players to find this opportunities in game and it make the game more unpredictable and more joyful
Unfair plane.
He kemp bush
Violet stet pedder
"Peder" means gay in Serbo-Croatian, so it sounds even funnier from our perspective :)
its unfare get you spelling right xD
Lol the Lowe shredder
Good someone using the whole map
I love that "secret" positions, this one would be awesome for sneaky tanks like UDES 03 or S tanks
>lets team die
>loads skill rounds
>exploits broken game mechanic
>is somehow hero
GG QB, put someone who isn't a team player on a pedestal. I'm glad he didn't get the 8th kill. He only got that many kills by watching his team die and exploiting a broken section of the map.
HERE HERE!
Thanks for your opinion comrade salty. Looking forward to your whine next game.
Mountain climbing is part of the game. Real life does balance the play field and some vehicles are better than others for this type of effort. The failure of the other team was not killing him when he was spotted twice in the climb and was basically a sitting duck. Personally I have used opposite side climbs as backup spots to support my team capping as the enemy team falls back. Then it really is a surprise.
LOL
Really though, who cares? The majority of players in this game are assholes who are interested in A) getting kills B) hearing their gun go "bang". But I guess this is one of those "he shoulda suicided with his shitty teammates!" Arguments.
Had a game where a platoon of Type 5 heavies tried to get up there...
...Yeah.
Did they do it?
dynamic game play boys. btw im sure his team was thankful for that. you know, so much fun.
Finally i know how to get there :D. Thank you QB
lol cool spot, can't wait to see if I could use it in unfair mm game :)
Would be cool to think of some counters against it as well
A maus can do the boost. the counter is to do it, it's an extremely easy boost...
When something is marked on the minimap as "not accessible" it needs to be F*****G NOT ACCESSIBLE!!!
where does it say "no accessible"?
Exactly
I think they need to add ramps (maybe made of collapsed rock faces or ice flows) to make the upper reaches of the map more accessible.
Opening
up more of the square map space for playing on rather than just making
it the playground of the tanks with high power to weight ratios. It
would take advantage of all that unused space in the square that the map
exists inside of.
Also modify the cap circle areas with mounds
or monuments or other things to give places for capping tanks to try to
hide from incoming fire from different elevated postions.
I don't like how you can defend the cap from a position like this, but I do like it when a map is deliberately designed around the idea of being able to use a mountain, like on the "Cliff" map.
Make it easier to get up into those places so we can hunt em down.
Zerbyte why? It then requires no skill and half your team will be up there sniping in light tanks?
QB asked what should be done for ALL those types of positions. Pay attention and grow up a bit.
lack of decent climbing skill
btw awesome game
Interesting to note that in the WGL Grand Finals the teams were climbing into high spots and sniping, and no one complained.
I had a favourite spot in Mines just behind the Western spawn point where you could climb the hill and snipe but WoT have blocked it now :(
I do agree that they need to be balanced for both sides, but while they last make the most of them. There are plenty of videos showing how to get up there.
I think it's nice you can do this, there should be more maps and places like this, I think it is fun and it opens an intire new dimension of the game
I am going to be the first person to say that this was such a stupid move by him especially being a top tier heavy. And I can already tell that it rarely goes well for him looking at his stats. What a detriment to his team.
stats don't mean a damn thing in this game
They are in the game.... Check your service record, what do you think every single thing in there is?
Stats literally matter in every game, whether it be virtual or real. Do you even watch sports? Its a measure of performance.
I'll actually be the first to say that blaming this player's unremarkable stats on this play is silly, considering that there are somewhere around 40 maps now, and you have to spawn on one side to capitalize on this position. so because you can't use this position to consistently affect your stats, this argument pretty much falls apart
secondly, this position allowed this player to do a number of things: it allowed this statistically average player to take out several players that significantly statistically outperform them, carry a game with the majority of the teams damage and kills, and take a top 5 slot in damage dealt in that particular tank. a top 5 slot. held by a statistically average Joe player. I'd hardly call that a bad use of a top tier tank. just my two cents tho
Well. I have to say that if you are not very good in this game or u dont have the required experience, then these positions wont help u alot. Only if u know what u r doing. Then these positions become far too over powered. Of course u cannot blame the players for takeing this smart position in game. Like why wouldnt u go up there if u can. And u know that u will get an advantage over other players. Still i cant decide if i would want it to get patched out or not.
it's cool how Juhani has view on the roof top of the Maus and Vk and still trys to shot the hull up plate and turret instead
Juhani and his teammate are like:
*AHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE*
How did you get there?
Replies *baaa*
back in the day in most every games exploits was considered the same as hacking and a bannable offense.
that being said. on to the reasons why,
1: it gives players unfair advantages over everyone, and total advantage over some, (gun elevation that some tanks cant shoot up that high) the opposing side does not have this type of advantage so it makes it totally unfair if you are on the north team,,, ect....
2: this is supposed to be somewhat of a realistic game and climbing mountains(yes i said MOUNTAINS) is far from anything close to realistic and even far from futuristic.
maybe if wargaming would use a little of the profits into fixing problems such as this the game would be a little more fun for all.
this is super easy to fix and thereafter if anyone caught exploiting should get a nice ban, 1 or 3 days might be a good start.
I will bet you that wargaming has already has numerous complaints and ingame reports on people using this exploit. so maybe we need to ask wargaming their stance on this subject and what if any actions will be taken in the future to fix this or encourage the use of this exploit. either way wargaming should make a statement about this very subject.
wow, i am really amazed how you cannot see past your nose on this one,,,
90%+ dont know how or it will take to long for them to get up the hill while putting themselves at a disadvantage to get to that player on top of the hill. and taking snap shots at the cap while up there resetting tanks that cant shoot back, this all will force unneeded drug out games and more draws.
try to play the game out in your head before thinking something is good.
I mean, really?? you still believe what you wrote now that i have explained it to you? if so, then i can say 100% you did not think the battles through or see how much of an advantage these spots give.
at the least just think about it.
wow, you are so out of touch it makes no sense.
if you cant get it from what i said then you have no eyesight whatsoever.
like I said, you cannot see past your nose. well good gaming, and as it is easy for me to get to these spots still dont make it right, and this is not competitive in the least when a tank can draw a game so easy. that is just total stupidity to make a game with UNFAIR(yes I said UNFAIR) advantages over others.
and so funny how you are arguing to keep something that is so unfair to many,, makes me guess that you use the mountains, or you get paid by WGing. either way it makes you out to be not so bright.
good gaming to you, and BTW, they will take this out of the game, it is you that is living in a fantasy world thinking tanks can climb mountains. EVEN IN WW2, lmao, wow, talk about fantasy.
I never said tanks could climb mountains. I said the mat even tanks during ww2 could easily climb slopes of 60 degrees. once again you paraphrase not only out of context but also changing the entire wording and basically making it up.
further to that poin
see this is why you are out of touch,,,, i stated about tanks climbing and that is talking about the hills(mountains) in the game, THAT WAS THE SUBJECT MATTER... go get back on board and stop with walls of text trying to justify the crap you pull in games.
so you infact did imply that tanks could climb mountains , that is #1,
#2 my friends and myself go rock climbing and this is where it is funny,,, NO JEEPS CANNOT climb up most mountains, wow, you are really dense. and we have awesome rock climbers,,, again, you are trying to make sense out of what you are saying that really makes no sense.
wake up bother... you are totally in a fantasy world. try watching the video again and seeing what the question is about the game... GET BACK IN TOUCH!
i am done with you, you have no IQ and if you did you sure don't show it with your ramblings about stuff you really have no clue about.
ok, i have to answer to this,, you 60degree crap is not the issue and was never an issue, but let me clearify something about that 60degree you keep shouting about,, little hills on iwo jima could not be topped by tanks, rocky slopes cannot be topped by tanks, their are no roads up the mountains in the game, so i dont know what the hell you keep rambling about you are totally wrong,, again, i just proved it,,,
and to go on about how wrong you are--- your definition of a mountain is totally 100% wrong
has nothing to do with sea lvl... Do you make this up as you go along and forget about fact checking? wow
i didn't have to look up the definition of a mountain but i did anyway just to fact check myself..
you talk about physics, i shown you some examples of how physics actually work, i am sure you will make something up again to debunk what i said,,, i can fact check everything i say and what you say, you should try to do the same instead of making up your own definitions.
Now I am 100% positive that you are one of the ones that uses these exploits for how much you are guarding them. so try blowing smoke up someones ass that don't know bullshit when they see it. maybe a 2nd grader is more your speed,,
you have not fooled anyone with your crap. and like quickybaby and I and many others say, this needs to be fixed (the sooner the better)
stupid little man, later ,, have fun with your own walk on life. keep making it up as you go along...
There were a few British tanks that were known for climbing mountains, that fact seems to have been forgotten by WG. They seem to have given that ability to tanks that weren't particularly known for it.
I like the ability to go anywhere the game will allow. It's interesting that, with the redesigned minimaps showing the "inaccessible" areas of the map, it seems that Wargaming did not expect people to be able to get here. It's likely, then, an oversight on their part, but I say fair play to it. Clever thinking like this, when it works, rewards the thought and the risk.
>be top tier
>camp near base
>only shoot gold
So go and try it. Let me know how many attempts (or hours) you spent on climbing.
Gj, you just proved that anyone can climb that easy climb there, just needs the right tank. There are other climbs, much harder, where skill is actually needed ;)
Arty would have had a field day killing him. The scout less so.
only certain tanks can get there. and to use those positions must be completely exposed to return fire.
The only balance question I have is if the south side has a similar exploit.
Justagermannerd whats wrong with shooting gold? if it gives you an advantage then use it. I dont understand your complaint
He copied sor of Jingles [actualy qiuckybaby....]
love the position great tactics! keep up the great videos
its a perfect strategy so I cant argue with it
All though it gives advantages it is also risky and time consuming players do this with the risk of being taking from the game and it is a smart way of using game micanics war gaming don't patch it !
Don't mind the boost positions, it just means you have to watch your mini map and snipe them to death. I have killed a bucket load of tankers who go to these positions. They have to fully expose themselves to shoot on the whole, so not so powerful if you are patient.
Yeah I can agree with you, but the opinion of one is not the opinion of all, there are more likely to be more people ranting about the positions
Adam White There is a counter for a guy sitting still on top of a mountain, it's called Artillery! Oh wait... it was nerfed. Guess "artillery discourages camping" was true after all, eh?
Sure .. now lets imagine u are capping as you can't follow that smart ass in LT in your HT. U can't also cap because he reset's every now and then. You have 4 min to cap and he has enough HP to reset even if u hit him back every time (assuming u can spot him).
you do realise that the enemy team had no arta?
Yes I do. But in general, you do agree that this would be harder to pull off if arty hadnt been nerfed, since arty usually dies last?
finally some 50b action
Wow. Seeing this three years after the fact, I know these things: No more Sacred Ground Map, Plenty of Arties in the game now, and Three: That spot was way way WAY OP.
I'm fine with people being able to climb hills like this. For every game that we see where someone climbs a mountain and gets 12k damage, there are at least 10 games where people attempt to climb and end up doing nothing. It's a gamble to get into these unique positions and if people can make it work then good for them.
Yes but the thing is that for 1 epic game you have 10 games where some players are occupied by climbing up and end up losing. Is this fun for the other 14 players? Or well, 29.
Well...it's fun for the enemies, rontap. Free damage is loved by just about everyone. :)
climbing in general is fine. THIS climb is really bad. it can be done in every tank in the game (i did it in the Pilot once). the only thing that pisses me off is when tomatoes can do this shit everytime with ease (his gold spamming doesnt help). Mines also has some climbs like this one, but they arent as OP as this and they have actual counters AND require more skill. if they removed this one, climbing would be good again and would only be performed by people who can do more than just W+Mouse1.
KappaPride Yeah but any other time I have seen a tank try this climb it gets nuked by the enemy
I agree. I say leave these special spots for people to find and explore. There are always risks doing these climbs and the payoff can be good or none at all.
dude you always forget to go on "detailed report" on the end. thats very important to see how much credits he has done and spend for ammunition. do this next time. I saw that you forget this in many vids. multiple times
Thanks for the awesome vid QB
Quicky baby: How did he get here
Me:Do YoU hAve 90 minutes
# jacksepticeye
Hey QB,
You can argue that these positions take a long time to get into and therefore they are legit, but really I would really hope to see WG do something about this cause these positions are not welcome for the average players and by no means new players.
Which again will get new players to be seal clubbed into oblivion and that is something I feel needs to be changed. More experienced players will do better cause we know something about WoT and have learned from u QB. These locations are mostly used by stat padders and experienced players who want's to fight as unfairly as they can. Most of us players wants to win, that's not a secret. Everthing is fair in War and Love, right? But really is it? What does your own moral say? And is this a real war or just a Game? Well for me it is a game and I love to have fun in my games. These positions in game ruins the fun for me atleast. In clan wars I have seen alot of boosting here and there just to get a tank up somewhere that isn't possible to get to solo. But in randoms we shouldn't have to watch for birds crapping on our tanks.. But this is only my opinion. Hopefully there are more of you that share my opinion so QB have even more on the List he can take to WG and try to make em fix back our fun.
Keep working QB, we all have to work hard :)
I don't think this is a point that QB is making. I don't think he defends those glitched positions.
They are welcome to everyone who wants to learn how to climb there.
at least with these positions lightly armored tank have something over the slowass heavy tanks. If we cannot flank in the world of corridors, we can hit 'em from above ;)
These spots are complete bullshit. I've had plenty of draws where light tanks hide in the hills drawing what otherwise would be a victory. Either every tank can go there, or none at all.
its clever use of mechanics sure, would a tank get there in real life? WG needs to fix this crap
Jirka Kolář
Depending on the tank, it might be possible for a tank to get up there, although climbing is abusing the driving system.
WOT never aspired to simulate real life, it is a video game. Do you think a real armored combat looks remotely like little bumper cars running around each other in a half square mile fenced area?
a tank would be able to get up there if it wasnt solid rock some snow and ice if it was just dirt and or grass ez pz
I haven't ever been able to take advantage of these perches - mainly because I suck - but if the perches are accessible using unmodified vehicles, then they are part of the game. It's up to Wargaming to decide whether to eliminate them or add one(s) on the opposing team's side to balance things out.
i loved the move that he drove up the hill... what i didnt like was the moment at the beginning when he instandly dabbed that 2 key and unnecessaryly shot 23 rounds of premium Apcr.
Did any of you screamers and cryers notice how long it took for the 50b to climb? he took a big risk and could have been shot/killed many times before he was safe. I find it ok to climb not using it myself though(cant figure it out).
I bet many here are using some special mods legal but not all can use them or dont know where to look for them.
Just one examble, that special autoaim that is NOT the wot autoaim. SO stop crying because some players can climb a mountain.
Aimbot isn't legal
Aim bot isn’t the same dude
1) I consider this an exploit - fault is on WG. They Could've fixed this ages ago.
2) He loads instantly premium ammo - so i see not much skill on that side. Just another wallet warrior and part of the problems WoT has.
Aremis1986 aren't autoloaders supposed to load gold first? like he is top tier or bottom tier, cause the heavily armoured heavys are definately not a fun target to shoot at with standard rounds.
this is WG purpose....
forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/544421-please-fix-the-maps-steeper-inclines/page__pid__11009731#entry11009731
Max Douglas May 18, 2017 5:00 PM
Greetings santosair,
Thank you for contacting us here at Wargaming Support and for being a loyal World of Tanks player.
I understand that you are inquiring about the climbing spots for the game. Trust me, as a fellow player, I sometimes love seeing mountain goats.
Moving on, I would like to say that these spots were designed to be in the game. Capitalizing on these spots gives advantage to the respective parties.
Nonetheless, I'll make sure the appropriate team gets your feedback on this concern.
Rest assured, this will be heard.
In the meantime, you can keep your eyes peeled for any new developments: worldoftanks.com/
This company has been built by gamers, run by gamers, supported by gamers and continuously improved by our dedicated players like you.
Best Regards,
Max Douglas
Dung nguyen duc so on other wards WG perpously did it. That or they are claiming to have done it on purpose because now that it's a realized usable position that unbalances the map they are scrambling to figure out how the development team missed it,
Just because it was intentional doesn't mean that it isn't unbalanced and unfair.
Unknown_ Gaming
1) WG will fix it if the community flips out about it enough because they are still in the process of cleaning up a disaster. Unbalanced play is already killing their game. They are announced they are putting out information on the balancing issues at the Grand Finals.
2) You don't have to to use anything in high tiers and to make that statement is laughable because it's a cop out for needing to use premium ammo. They are most likely using blitz as a beta test because they announced they plan to cut premium ammo damage in half starting with Blitz.
3)After the massive change in artillery mechanics and the fact that it no longer dishes out damage like it's going out of style, players are slowly moving away from arty usage. Any commentor can tell you that through they observation of the game lately. If arty becomes a rarely used vehicle in the game then those positions are in fact a exploit. Solely on the reason that there won't be a effective counter to using those positions.
I don't mind the goat paths per se, but I doubt that there's another one across the map leading to a similar elevated area overlooking the cap circle. that means that the map is unbalanced every time someone uses the goat path.
I subbed right away. Sir, You know your stuff!
gold spammer who exploits unbalanced map design... gg
this boosting totally kills the game... wonder when will WG realize and start to do something about this.. when you get tanks in position like this... you can't cap... you cant kill him effectively... yay, 15mins wasted draw....
Wotko s Vokurkou gold spammer? In the current game, that wasn't that much...
Wotko s Vokurkou guess what???? Anyone can buy gold ammo for credits so cut the attitude and enjoy the clever use of mechanics.
I do all the time , infact I can afford to do so in every game, it's there so I use it
WG is actually starting to ban people for doing this, theres already several maps if your caught on replay accessing these areas your banned
Well, about the gold spam, yes I'm against that. But having map knowledge and using a position to have an advantage against the enemy team? That's good, it shows that he's a good player.
Wargaming should open maps and use all these locations as standrard battle ground. Will give more tactical options overall and avoid OP locations. I mean, make these available for everyone, and not only those who studies how to goat.
These are indeed available for everyone. Learn the map, learn how to drive and you can get there too. The more you study the more advantage you get. That's fair.
So... if there are more OP locations, there are no OP locations... no that is not how any of this works.
Most tanks simply can not climb up there and once somebody is up there, those who theoretically could, will get killed on the way up.
These positions are pure cancer.
Yeah... available for everyone who is driving the "right" tank.
Ain't right tanks available for everyone?
Are you stupid m8?
Everyone who plays anything but fast tanks should get punished?
Skill should not be deciding factor, but side of spawn and having picked the right tank to be able to do a gamebreaking climb?
"Hey, look at this guy. He happened to have picked a fast vehicle and happened to spawn on the lucky side. Now see how he kills off half of the enemy team without any skill requirement and without any of their tanks being able to even shoot back. This is skill. This is fairness and this makes the game better and more balanced."
Something like this?
i asked wargaming about these types of positions and they said we would notice most of them disappearing as HD reworked versions of maps come out
I remember when getting this map there are these type of players who always tries, or gets up there. And once that was figured out, tanks just stopped moving forward and just waited for a draw. 7/10 on this map was either draw, 3 of that was either win/lose depending if your on the north or south side.
I think these positions are pretty unbalanced and gamebreaking, probably WG should do something about that (let's hope they will not censor this comment :P )
Pietro Da Rù why the fuck? WE HAVE A BAD CLIMER HERE
spurgu 22 "climer".... *slow claps*
noob climber crying
Pietro Da Rù actually these spots are great and creative. encourages ppl to explore the map
Sounds like a Libatard to me. always wining about something. if you don't like it. Leave The Game, then we will all be happy.
There is a reason why is map overlay black at that position, which means if it's black it's not supposed to be use. I really hate those mountain goats, few days ago I had tier X sweden td on the brutal position (have no idea how he end up there) but he brutalized our team from that op position, so yeah.. This ain't CS:GO to make boosts etc..
Climbing adds creativity to the currently rather dull meta and requires a certain amount of skill to get there, so they should not be removed.
Every tomato can learn how to climb if they just took the time to learn it in a training room.
Lenny: This climbing totally destroys map balancing. Usually giving one team absolute advantage of the map, just because there is a glitch in the map design.
You would like to play map, when you know that half of enemy team will go to totally OP position and your side doesn't have any such opportunity? Such games will be decided even before game will start.
And if WG will not fix it, it's just a matter of time until everybody will use them.
that was WG purpose,and this the proof...
forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/544421-please-fix-the-maps-steeper-inclines/page__pid__11009731#entry11009731
Max Douglas May 18, 2017 5:00 PM
Greetings santosair,
Thank you for contacting us here at Wargaming Support and for being a loyal World of Tanks player.
I understand that you are inquiring about the climbing spots for the game. Trust me, as a fellow player, I sometimes love seeing mountain goats.
Moving on, I would like to say that these spots were designed to be in the game. Capitalizing on these spots gives advantage to the respective parties.
Nonetheless, I'll make sure the appropriate team gets your feedback on this concern.
Rest assured, this will be heard.
In the meantime, you can keep your eyes peeled for any new developments: worldoftanks.com/
This company has been built by gamers, run by gamers, supported by gamers and continuously improved by our dedicated players like you.
Best Regards,
Max Douglas
...from another comment XD
at Dung.... yeah no, lolz.... "Climbing Spots" and This, not quite sure would call them the same thing when they allow for this level of abuse, eh. *If they are more well balanced and useable In Games by players fairly, then it wouldn't be an Exploit.*
amx 50 B:I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
everyone:
i think that this is what makes game fun, some epic rng and funny moments
"A lucky noob exploiting shitty map design by WG to camp and win against other lower tier noobs who had no clue how to counter him in a tier 10 autoloader unnecessarily spamming gold."
That's my view on it, QB. Sorry mate, but it became the first video I've disliked in your channel in few years. Only thing got me to finish the video was QB's entertaining commentary. Waiting for your next video please.
Royal Green you know this has been here for quite a while, he wasn't the first
I'm not going to get into matchmaking tiers, premium ammunition and similar things. I'll just stick with my view on the position. It is an unforeseen result of the physics changes. Something, that can actually become quite a nice surprise in game design. Currently, of course, they are ... annoyingly unbalanced, to say the least. Classic approach, both sides should have the same advantages; make the area accessible for all vehicles, while maintaining the difficulty of access, so it doesn't become an automatic draw if a standoff results of it ... all that good stuff. WG just needs to steer away from their typical 'we'll wait years before fixing an obvious controversy' mentality and all should be fine.
same for me...
you nailed it!!
My thoughts exactly. I don't understand why he promote videos like this... Every god damn noob is now camping and trying to climb... Tier 10 autoloader trying to climb the hill. GG I suppose...
Typical "unicum" play. Load gold. Chai snipe. Let others take the fall. Exploit the map in ways not intended. Bask in glory. What a joke. Wargaming needs to put hard barriers on every map so nobody can play in areas that were never intended. No real tank can climb mountains.
guyonearth to bad he's a shitter
i dont mind the location because this one isnt too unrealistic with some time im sure u could get some tanks up that slope with carefull driving. i do hate the use of gold i have never fired a gold round in a tank in fact the only gold ive ever spent was to convert xp to silver and take off equipment.
cody scherer The location was never intended to be accessible.
Eul Santa Do you wanna have a bad game insted only because you cannot pen a maus or type 5 while you are loading AP?
I mean, he was shooting down at the sides and in angled fronts of most tanks, he probably didn't need the gold. Plus, gold rounds are purchasable for in game credits, what's stopping you from using them? I don't use that many but when I'm shooting at the front of an E-100 in an IS-3 when were the only 2 tanks remaining, I'm going to load gold.
maybe not completely removed, but if that position was reworked, say, if there was no way to have a line of sight on the cap circle from that spot so that the player would have to slide back down and intervene would make it more balanced i suppose
And cograts for your 500k subscribers! :)
Use the maps to their fullest. WG has broken the game with a retarded attempt to make both sides exactly the same (at least statisticly). That effort is irelevant. It's not possible unless you make the map an exact mirror on both sides, making the map physically the same for both teams. Just put all the Retired Maps back in the game. The more games you play the more times you play both sides, getting a statistically neutral side choice. Some Maps, Lights have the advantage. Some Maps, Heavies have the advantage. And some maps, TDs have the advantage. Mediums are too OP on the current crop of nonsense.
Great replay, and well played to the 50B, the boost is available to anyone who invests the time to learn it. Its allowed in ESL, and this and other boosts are part of the professional game, indeed required to be able to compete. They have added another dimension to many maps and thus to the game play. I personally love them, and play them a lot, I find though there are a fair few haters, but chatted to a few, and even invested time in training rooms to show them how to do it, to find haters became lovers.
Since they changed the mechanics to where you can get up in places like this, jump off a bridge, and roll the tank. I think the ones that use this to there advantage do change the way the battle plays but it doesn't mean that it's unfair. I love getting into these spots. If you think about it if 2-3 tanks out of every battle use these spots and everyone becomes more aware players can get better over time
i would personally like to see more of these secret sniping spots, and some where eehm larger vehicles can get into with only the assistance of one or two other tanks, and i want the sniping hill on helibron back because it was the best to blind fire at from the south spawn as arty/spg