A child abduction leads to the ultimate betrayal…

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2023
  • Case 259: Jamie Lavis
    ** Content warning: Child victims, child sexual abuse **
    When eight-year-old Jamie Lavis failed to return home on Monday, May 5 1997, his family quickly raised the alarm. Soon, it seemed as though all of Greater Manchester was searching for the missing boy - including a bus driver named Darren Vickers, who came forward to say he’d seen Jamie on his bus that day. The 27-year-old bus driver quickly became one of the Lavis family’s biggest supporters, but investigators were suspicious of him from the very beginning…
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Komentáře • 164

  • @CarlyJOne
    @CarlyJOne Před 9 měsíci +69

    He’s a sick and evil monster. I was relieved to read he was denied parole again in Feb 2023.

  • @RED-cy7ig
    @RED-cy7ig Před 8 měsíci +36

    The audacity to befriend the family. This guy really sets the bar as low as you can go.

  • @itznotleahgames3323
    @itznotleahgames3323 Před 9 měsíci +61

    Jamie and i went to the same primary school and i lived on the same street as his family, it was really sad to see it unfold. My heart goes out to them

    • @Billy-ng4ih
      @Billy-ng4ih Před 7 měsíci

      His parents are absolute morons of the highest order. They literally let that evil monster live in their home.

  • @veronicaellen4634
    @veronicaellen4634 Před 9 měsíci +40

    Your audience stays right with you, every word, for the entire journey. Casefile is a masterpiece.
    As far as this one goes- HOW could this individual ever be released? He tore that little boy apart after using him for his sexual gratification. Everything about this is wrong. If he could literally tear a child apart at any point in his life, he is lacking something basic and human. He certainly didn't find it in prison.

  • @MonarchMKUltra
    @MonarchMKUltra Před 9 měsíci +36

    He was denied parole

  • @themorgan1111
    @themorgan1111 Před 9 měsíci +51

    I live in the UK and remember this...its just a parents worst nightmare, manipulative pedophile pig is what he is , makes my skin crawl...great narration as always 😉

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 Před 6 měsíci +1

      If you live in the UK why are you spelling paedophile the American way?

    • @themorgan1111
      @themorgan1111 Před 6 měsíci +3

      does it matter.really?

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@themorgan1111 Yes

    • @themorgan1111
      @themorgan1111 Před 6 měsíci +1

      why?

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@themorgan1111 Because we need to protect our language and culture from Americanisation

  • @cl9730
    @cl9730 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Nobody can tell a story like you do.

  • @glauvie
    @glauvie Před 9 měsíci +29

    How many people on this planet are bereft, scarred or dead because some wastrel needed someplace to put his wattle?

    • @Valeria-mq3qn
      @Valeria-mq3qn Před 9 měsíci +16

      Yep. I don’t remember the exact quote, but I recently read a comment from someone on Reddit that said something along the lines of “How many women, children, people, or animals have to die or suffer for a man’s nut?” It makes me feel dirty just typing it, but that doesn’t change the fact of the matter…..

    • @richardcranium3579
      @richardcranium3579 Před 8 měsíci

      These monsters crave control. The sexual part is perversion. It speaks to how truly warped their minds are.
      What is more sickening is that this monster was offered parole.

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Před 11 dny

      He was married. It has nothing to do with that. It's because they're violent and entitled.

  • @simone1060
    @simone1060 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Honestly how you approach a case shows how well you studied the case before. You bring the information in an organized language with a soothing tone. No matter how horrid the topics of the casefiles are, i always appreciate your storytelling. Its like we can see everything unfold right before our eyes. Thank you for all the hard work you put in and may all the victims find peace 🕊️

  • @bostonsandatot4948
    @bostonsandatot4948 Před 8 měsíci +20

    Odd that the older brother of the missing boy was allowed to continue riding the bus when the missing boy uhhh disappeared while riding the bus.

    • @BrigitteGoodman
      @BrigitteGoodman Před 2 měsíci +7

      I'm sure those parents aren't the brightest candles on the cake.

    • @itsruckaswife7036
      @itsruckaswife7036 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@BrigitteGoodman LOL 😅 that’s ace I’m going to use that !

  • @donnablack6280
    @donnablack6280 Před 9 měsíci +23

    It's easy to judge; but when you're desperate and flailing around for help, you grasp any hand. I hope he gets jail justice some time.

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood Před 9 měsíci +7

      Yes. The parents not only have to cope with what happened to their son, but also the betrayal of the monster who did those things to him after pretending to be there to help. Then they have to feel an insurmountable amount of guilt for what I'm sure they feel is another betrayal of their son, by letting that POS into their lives and not seeing him for what he is. So many conflicting emotions.

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Před 11 dny

      They were vulnerable ☹️

  • @wagashi
    @wagashi Před 9 měsíci +43

    They can just throw away the key for this guy's cell, no need to even pretend to consider him for parole

    • @mairishkar
      @mairishkar Před 9 měsíci +1

      I agree! and cute kitty face BTW😺!

    • @jerrymarbury9365
      @jerrymarbury9365 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Oh no some libs will move heaven and earth to get him out.

    • @LeslieSunshine17
      @LeslieSunshine17 Před 9 měsíci

      Yep. Too bad we have to use tax dollars for this piece of #$%$&$*

    • @mayajrj
      @mayajrj Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@jerrymarbury9365 he was refused parole in Feb 2023 with the parole board saying 'he is not suitable for release'

    • @RogerLewis-ey2tt
      @RogerLewis-ey2tt Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@jerrymarbury9365 just stop it, jerry.

  • @candyrain09able
    @candyrain09able Před 9 měsíci +5

    Your coverage of these cases is so well done all the way around. Bravo My Friend. Thank you.

  • @AZ0986688
    @AZ0986688 Před 8 měsíci +5

    He mentioned the monsters behind the horrible Moors murders in the 1960s, and they both stayed in their cells since the 1960s until they finally died!:)

  • @SusanSez1
    @SusanSez1 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Mom says, "part of me wants him to come home." What an odd thing to say.

    • @user-mm1cf1zd6v
      @user-mm1cf1zd6v Před 4 měsíci +10

      That stood out to me too, but I think she meant that part of her knows he's never coming back, but part of her still holds hope

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Před 11 dny

      She must have been out of her mind with anxiety dude

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Před 11 dny

      ​@@user-mm1cf1zd6vthe other thing could be like, if he was still alive, maybe it meant he was enduring unspeakable things. Wishing for him to still be alive may mean wishing terrible pain on him. She must have had awful things on her mind. I have a disabling communication disorder but no one who isn't an expert can tell by just hearing me say a few sentences. Reading so much into phrases from people, especially people we know are innocent victims, is unfair

  • @jaqiharrison1984
    @jaqiharrison1984 Před 9 měsíci +8

    How absolutely despicable!

  • @MissVanHelsing
    @MissVanHelsing Před 9 měsíci +37

    Having another Casefile party alone in my room on a Saturday night instead of going out. Whoop whoop ❤🎉

    • @AbbiWilliamson
      @AbbiWilliamson Před 9 měsíci +6

      You should create a club 😅

    • @Frenchblue8
      @Frenchblue8 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's always early Saturday morning here

    • @candyrain09able
      @candyrain09able Před 9 měsíci +4

      Sounds like me on a Friday night. Im content with staying in for the night with Casefiles as opposed to going out. 😊

    • @LeslieSunshine17
      @LeslieSunshine17 Před 9 měsíci +1

      🎉🎉🎉

    • @MissVanHelsing
      @MissVanHelsing Před 9 měsíci

      @@AbbiWilliamson let's doooo it. We can get jackets.

  • @MissMollysMumNz
    @MissMollysMumNz Před 9 měsíci +10

    Perfect timing. 10pm here in New Zealand. Bedtime story 🫣

  • @Trouble-Clef
    @Trouble-Clef Před 3 měsíci +3

    Excellent podcast. This is such a sad case, as in any case involving a child. The sick psychopath that killed Jamie should never be released.

  • @NUrea7524
    @NUrea7524 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great podcast ! Your research and coverage of cases all over the world with empathy toward the victims..
    I remember this case .. so sad

  • @margaretstewart2575
    @margaretstewart2575 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Desperately sad....i hope this monster NEVER gets out.

  • @brandyjean7015
    @brandyjean7015 Před 9 měsíci +14

    Jamie's very description is so contradictory: street wise & confident, yet small for his age, afraid of the dark & fond of lollies.

  • @sidbobby3233
    @sidbobby3233 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Many thanks frm the UK mate 😎😎👊👊👍👍✌✌👌👌

  • @angelapietras1235
    @angelapietras1235 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I’m disgusted with the parents for allowing an eight year old child to catch a bus on his own.and a child out on his own just before dark,especially in that area this is unbelievable.

    • @klientproby
      @klientproby Před 8 měsíci +10

      Don't condemn the parents! It was a different time. Loads of parents were confident that their children wouldn't come to harm by being out on their own, at the park, on busses, and such. My friends and I used to ride our bicycles all over our city, played in parks, were up to all sorts of harmless fun, always knowing we had to be back home by suppertime. No harm came to any of us! Parents today are too soft, creating scaredy-cat kids who crumple up at the first sign of hardship. "Helicopter" parents, is the term for such parents today.

    • @krisrp0
      @krisrp0 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It's not that strange of a thing to do, esp in Europe where it's generally very safe

    • @angelapietras1235
      @angelapietras1235 Před 6 měsíci

      @@krisrp0 well that’s strange because my husband and I and our two very young children ,left the uk because it was unsafe and that was over forty five years ago and thank God we did.

  • @lalag2429
    @lalag2429 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Been liistening to this podcast on spotify for a couple of years. Your voice is so soothing, though talkung about the worst things. ❤

  • @anitaholst7671
    @anitaholst7671 Před 9 měsíci +3

    So sad, so tragic. May the monster NEVER see the light of day.

  • @timasling8711
    @timasling8711 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Awsome as always 👍🏻

  • @rhondamcewananderson3968
    @rhondamcewananderson3968 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Many thanks Casefile ❤️

  • @christopherholly1392
    @christopherholly1392 Před 8 měsíci +4

    41:00 How disgusting that the perp tries to throw the parents under the bus with vile allegations.
    We've seen it before, and should even be expected from a child murderer, but it doesn't make it any less repulsive.

  • @triggerhappy8872
    @triggerhappy8872 Před 9 měsíci +15

    If i was Jamie’s father i would’ve been devastated he didn’t get parole. I would be at every parole hearing on his side begging the parole board to give the poor guy another chance at life. Just in the hope so i can catch up with him & have a beer & a chat with him. Well i’ll be talking & he’ll be screaming LOL.

    • @LilaHubert-jl9zd
      @LilaHubert-jl9zd Před 7 měsíci

      What is wrong with you are you mentally sick? He sexually abused and killed an 8 year old child and you want to have beer with him?

  • @klientproby
    @klientproby Před 8 měsíci +1

    Absolutely horrendous! Can't get my head round the fact that this poor family put all their trust in such a person. So glad that he was caught before he killed another child. There are no words.

  • @maya8627
    @maya8627 Před 8 měsíci +11

    The parents are naive to the extreme.

  • @LilaHubert-jl9zd
    @LilaHubert-jl9zd Před 7 měsíci +2

    But nothing compares to the loss of a beloved

  • @Maligroot
    @Maligroot Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks Matey 👍

  • @JaydenCellest-tz3ft
    @JaydenCellest-tz3ft Před 9 měsíci +2

    This was very intriguing

  • @danrobinson572
    @danrobinson572 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I read this rock spider got beaten over the head with a hammer in prison.

  • @bostonsandatot4948
    @bostonsandatot4948 Před 9 měsíci +27

    If a child is scared of the dark, they are not "streetwise" and capable of traveling around town by themselves.

    • @brandyjean7015
      @brandyjean7015 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Ding, ding, ding... I hit on that too. Simply casual parenting at its best.

    • @CarlyJOne
      @CarlyJOne Před 9 měsíci +11

      I wish people weren’t so quick to judge the victims. We don’t know enough about them, where they lived and let’s not forget it was over 25 years ago. I can guarantee you Jamie’s parents kick themselves everyday for allowing him to ever leave their home, let alone ride on buses by himself.

    • @victoriaross3263
      @victoriaross3263 Před 9 měsíci +11

      Traveling around during the day isn't the same as being scared of the dark. I was traveling to school and around town to meet friends at 12 and did so with confidence but I still wanted a small light on at bedtime.
      I'm 37 now and can travel anywhere during the day but would definitely not be doing it at nighttime because I know I'd get lost lol

    • @brandyjean7015
      @brandyjean7015 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@CarlyJOne it was a different time. My eldest son was born in 1972. So by the time Jamie was murdered, my eldest was 25 yrs old. We lived in a suburb of a very large city: Los Angeles. There was no casual 'nothing better to do bus riding' at 8 yrs of age. His 1st across the city, on his own, bus trip occurred when he was 13. He had mapped out the schedules, routes, where he would transfer, cost everything: to attend an event he considered important, while I had to work. I had friends who thought that was too risky! And I know, that if something tragic had happened on that day, folks would have questioned my parenting too...
      In the end all we can do is learn from our own, and even other's, mistakes.

    • @brandyjean7015
      @brandyjean7015 Před 9 měsíci

      @@victoriaross3263 I'm old enough now, @ 70, that many of my friends don't see well enough to drive @ night anymore! Different ages require different transportation planning.

  • @owinlaa
    @owinlaa Před 3 měsíci

    I got genuine goosebumps at the last poem. No parent should ever have to bury their child, especially not a child so young.
    Rest in peace, Jamie.

  • @brandyjean7015
    @brandyjean7015 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Karen is a gentle trusting spirit: but no Darren doesn't have a conscience. He is a manipulative, lying, child molester: basically he is a monster.

  • @DebraOdonnell-zb3vx
    @DebraOdonnell-zb3vx Před 7 měsíci +1

    Who is this narrator he is brillant such a horrible case i hardly cry over these crime cases this got to me anytime to do with kids and animals

  • @Xenomorph788
    @Xenomorph788 Před 17 dny

    The poem at the end 😩😞 💐

  • @no_peace
    @no_peace Před 11 dny

    Truck drivers and bus drivers etc are in a position to cause all kinds of grief and should be screened (and to some extent monitored) way more thoroughly

  • @lovebug319751
    @lovebug319751 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Any updates? Is he out? Thank you for bringing awareness of this sad case

    • @markkofi8522
      @markkofi8522 Před 9 měsíci +3

      No. Denied parole.

    • @lovebug319751
      @lovebug319751 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@markkofi8522 thank goodness and thank you for your response!

    • @richardcranium3579
      @richardcranium3579 Před 8 měsíci +1

      He’ll be released soon enough. The “Justice system” has cancer.

  • @Frogstomping79
    @Frogstomping79 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Cannot believe you pronounced the surname correctly. No one ever gets it right. Thank you.

  • @danrobinson572
    @danrobinson572 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great Saturday morning 😊

  • @user-cz5ny3tn9t
    @user-cz5ny3tn9t Před 9 měsíci +2

    I am so glad they went through that for being so stupid both of them and I do believe that she did sleep with that idiot

    • @jbailey5061
      @jbailey5061 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Lmao he's so obviously lying. The fact that the tabloids published it is gross. Don't give the killer what he wants.

  • @Whatsthedealsquirter
    @Whatsthedealsquirter Před 9 měsíci +2

    That's fine go ahead and let him out just don't be upset when he winds up in the sausage😊 society will regulate its self ,law has prevented it in modern times,but before that it worked just fine for thousands of years,I know if I was a parent that this happened to I would prey for release,and have a welcoming party to greet him on the way out of prison,you did excellent on the video as usual,thanks for the content production 👍

  • @johnkidd5070
    @johnkidd5070 Před 10 dny

    This could be done on radio.
    How lazy can you get.

  • @BrigitteGoodman
    @BrigitteGoodman Před 2 měsíci

    Why do you buy an 8!year-old a day ticket for a bus crossing a big city? What were those parents thinking? Mommy too busy with her brood or chatting with the neighbours? Sorry, but a bus ticket for such a small child is gross negligence. Of course he became prey for that psycho bus driver. Easy prey. He was like fast food for him.

  • @Frenchblue8
    @Frenchblue8 Před 9 měsíci +3

    How do you not see ~or in any way communicate with~your eight-year-old from morning till 3 in the afternoon and that is somehow considered "normal".
    In the UK, in 1997, ALL PARENTS KNEW BETTER

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Před 28 dny

    Jamie had passed away before my brother existed

  • @alanleemaxwell831
    @alanleemaxwell831 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Vile waste of oxygen...

  • @adedamolaadeleke6228
    @adedamolaadeleke6228 Před 28 dny

    It is just terrible

  • @DeniseSkinner68DeniseSkinner68

    Very depressing, you can have more children disappearing and private chat rooms. With grown men, keep up your scientology

  • @rbtb4524
    @rbtb4524 Před 9 měsíci +1

    First time I am early, neat!

  • @kayd3409
    @kayd3409 Před 9 měsíci

    Here because the podcast isn’t playing on apple podcast 😢

  • @Sigma.6
    @Sigma.6 Před 6 měsíci

    Darren Vickers will never be released. He'll die in jail.

  • @Boo-dawg.
    @Boo-dawg. Před 9 měsíci +7

    Why do I get the feeling that their "friend" is the guilty part?

  • @twelvesmylimit
    @twelvesmylimit Před 9 měsíci +1

    17:29 bookmarked to continue

  • @maelstrom3002
    @maelstrom3002 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wife, wife, not partner.

    • @owinlaa
      @owinlaa Před 3 měsíci

      It can literally mean the same thing. It’s like saying “that’s not a person, that’s a man” A man is a person, a wife is a partner

  • @jeanettehinds4253
    @jeanettehinds4253 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hey, is it me, I have no sound?

    • @SunandSunflowers
      @SunandSunflowers Před 9 měsíci +3

      I hear it. Log out youtube and come back in

    • @phil1pd
      @phil1pd Před 9 měsíci +3

      Audio is working for me

  • @amyspencer6235
    @amyspencer6235 Před 9 měsíci +10

    They just let a child run the streets? This is why I can't stand lazy parenting. If they had done what my parents did on school holidays this wouldn't have happened, they could have had a day of fun planned instead of the kids getting bored and roaming about town. Then they make friends with the last person who saw him and went against the police because they trusted this complete stranger more? Poor Jamie, he had no chance. 💔

    • @artfuldodger96
      @artfuldodger96 Před 9 měsíci +30

      🙄🤨 Hey victim blamer - helicopter parenting doesn't help with the other 99.9% of abductions - from someone you know and trust.
      If you feel the need to be a sanctimonious 💩 so much.. tell it to your cats.
      We had fun playing outside.. unscheduled. These are VERY rare occurrences. Lazy parenting, indeed.
      Beat it.

    • @loredanadincu4300
      @loredanadincu4300 Před 9 měsíci +3

      It was the 90s, you genius. Kids from all over the world were out and about alone. Your comment is pathetic .

    • @margaretbanks8969
      @margaretbanks8969 Před 9 měsíci +21

      There have been cases of children being taken from their own room while their parents slept in the next room.

    • @carolball5764
      @carolball5764 Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@artfuldodger96Exactly!!The same people who blame Women and are (asking for it) by dressing a certain way? What about Children and even little babies then ? What’s the excuse for their assaults ?

    • @jonlyons1033
      @jonlyons1033 Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@margaretbanks8969 lazy sleeping parents 😂