It'd be tough as he goes by Monty, his middle name so even if they were on first name basis, homer wouldn't really know his first name is actually Charles.
The current HD animation is soulless. The characters look static and dead compared to the early seasons rough animation which gave the characters charm and added to the comedy with their facial expressions.
The character motion was more fluid and expressive. The new animation is mechanical. You can see this when you compare the old opening with the new HD one, especially how Marge reacts when Maggie goes through the checkout scan.
Also the voice actors are either phoning it in, or in marge's case, just wearing out. Marge sounds like she has throat cancer now, and a lot of the other characters played by the same people are blending to actually just sound like the same person.
@Source90000 I rewatched the first season not too long ago, and I was honestly underwhelmed and disappointed. I always remembered it being better than it actually is.
To make a long story short: only the creator knows it's creation. You can keep a show alive a long time without losing it's soul but the creator is the soul. The moment a majority of the original writers left is the moment the soul was muddied.
Nah, if the showrunner really cared about the show they could keep up the quality enough to at least put out 1-2 great episodes per season. At this point the show is almost a money laundering scam.
I started watching the entire show during quarantine. I just have to say that the writing was so much better in the early seasons. I legit got sad when homer spends what he thinks were gonna be his last moments in that one episode where everyone thinks he was gonna die because they thought he ate the poison part of a fish.
I don't even think the animation is better, I think that the old animation was way more pretty, now they resemble family guy in terms of the look of the series,( and also in the dumb humor )
Dude, don't say that, Family Guy's animation is possibly the worst. You can literally see that most of the time, the only movement on screen are the characters blinking. It's that static.
Simpson' animation is, I'd say, basic, but not lazy. It's serviceable for sure. Family Guy I admit is static, but I don't really see the issue... It's still watchable.
@@GoodMorningUSA1 That'd be like saying ET on Atari is playable. Sure, you can play it beginning to end, but the fact that it works doesn't mean it's passable.
Best example of tagging: Homer: you’re never gonna eat meat again? Lisa: no I’m a vegetarian now. Homer: you mean you’re never gonna eat bacon? Lisa: no Homer: your never gonna eat pork chops? Lisa: no Homer: your never gonna eat ham? Lisa: DAD those all come from the same animal. Homer: (sniggers) yeah right Lisa, like there’s some magical animal where all the delicious meats come from.
The early French dub isn't too bad, but now that I've seen it in English, I'm not sure they understood that Homer was being sarcastic/coy (not sure which one it is) he delivers that line 100% straight, like he is explaining it to Lisa. So there was no joke. I used to feel dumb as a kid because I didn't get it when my friends/siblings would laugh at that scene
I hate the way Homer’s humour seems to have went from him being unintentionally stupid to him actively trying to be funny (which usually fails miserably and is just cringe to watch)
Simpson's writer 1: *makes a self aware joke about how bad the show is* Simpson's writer 2: "Geez, Homer, you sure do suck tonight." Simpson's writer 1: "Yeah, suck like a fox!" *Both laugh until their heads fall on the table crying about their life choices*
"Yep, our show sucks now. Too bad we're not going to do anything about it." This painfully illustrates modern Cartoon Network and all the kids that think being "self aware" is some genius form of comedy that deflects criticism. I always thought it was worse that way because they acknowledge they're bad, but refuse to anything about it. It is so refreshing to see someone else point this out, because it's a real problem in the industry.
It's one thing to be self aware, like the first two Shrek movies, and the other is just laziness and an attempt to entertain the minimum common denominator.
Same here. My brother watches these shows out of habit now. I personally see The Simpsons as a zombie that has yet to be killed and it needs to end seriously.
And there are ways to make cartoons still be fresh while lasting as long as The Simpsons. Looney Toons has made 100's of short films and they were still good for a long time
Sucks, cuz Peter used to be nice and funny as well. Remember in the really old episodes of Family Guy (so when Meg was voiced by Lacey Chabert) and he'd always try to help Meg up when she fell down? He was stupid, but he cared. Now look what happened... I'll always remember that episode when Meg finally stood up to everyone and it felt like we were finally getting a satisfying pay-off but then they just threw it right back in her and our faces because apparently, self-parodies/caricatures are funny and they wanted to carry on devolving their characters.
Season 8 is amazing! 9 is still good, but 10 like 40% were good. The Simpsons were at there peak though when Conan was there because he could act out each scene and brought so much energy too the writing room.
Modern day Simpsons animation. Is so refined that it looks so generic. That you appreciate the authenticity and artistic integrity that the older seasons had.
I’ve been watching some of the older episodes recently. Nearly all of them had an emotional ending that left the viewer feeling good, like when Marge goes to Rancho Relaxo, the Mr. Bergstrom episode or when Homer covers up the sign at his desk with photos of Maggie so it says “Do it for her”. None of that happens now, in fact some episodes finish short and they have something totally unrelated to fill in the last couple of minutes.
These shows always go downhill when they get taken over by people who are trying to emulate what made the original great. Ultimately, they're going to simultaneously interpret and emulate the show, and if their interpretation isn't perfect the show's going to suddenly be different.
What about “Bart vs. Australia” where Bart ends having to apologize to the Australian government because he tried to find out the way toilet water spins?
Bart Gets an F is my favourite episode. The whole episode is straight to the point, even if it is your FIRST episode you can still feel for the character. This is all you need to watch to know Barts character. Season 1 and 8 are also great.
@@jimbob2427I wouldn't say the new seasons are good per se but there's definitely some hidden gems to be found like a serious flanders, pixelated and afraid and lisa the boy scout
Okay first off. Great episode, I love it, any time in my life where I get to talk Simpson’s or share in a moment that reflects the void that any avid fan feels growing up with the simpsons. The way You and Alan perfectly explain why the “Golden years” through the tagging, was so eloquently put. I just loved this whole video. My next part is directly for Alan Denton. Please. Make a channel. Where you dissect old Simpson’s jokes or episodes, or just talk about them. Your way with words are so good that with content like what you did for the “rocking skinners car joke”, on the Bart’s comet episode. Like even if it’s just revealing all the tagging. I knew what the heck was going to to happen even, with all the tags!! And I was still just, laughing away, at the way were you broke it down and talked about it. It gave me a good feeling, knowing that it wasn’t wasted, or taking advantage of. The shows golden years that is. because we watched, we payed attention to every tag.. Just thank you so much for this. And yes Alan Denton. Please make more!!!
I actually noticed when I went on the ride modern day Simpsons work well in short bursts just like the ride, but the movie was garbage and that’s cuz Conan wasn’t there.
Seasons 1 and 9 (perhaps 8 as well) are all good, but not quite as solid as 2-7, hence the common exclusion from the Golden Age category. On the first season the series was still in the process of finding its style and personality, and seasons 8 & 9 are where the decline can be already be seen.
Dakotah Mays, my thoughts as well! I wonder why I didn't think of looking into it closer before, but seems season 9 is quite a hodgepodge of newly produced episodes and rollovers from earlier seasons, which explains the rather odd mixing of golden age feeling material and stuff with the newer direction the series was taking. For example, "Lisa's Sax" and "Simpson Tide" were made during season 7's production, and "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson", "The Principal and the Pauper" and "Lisa the Simpson" being season 8 vintage.
You have to include 1-2. Sure the show got better in 3 but it was a hit from the start. People were hooked., nobody said it was weak...It just got better. and when you actually go back and watch the entire first two seasons, they actually are pretty much classic Simpson's right from the stsrt. It didn't long for them to hit their stride.
Apu was removed from the show because he was “racially stereotypical”. But that was his personality and my favourite side character and they should not have removed him!
pretty sure they backtracked on that decision on account of indians being pissed their only representation in the show was being taken away. I could be wrong though.
Pretty much every Simpsons character has been stereotypical representation of some character arch-type. Homer, Bart, Mayor Quimby, Chief Wiggum, Groundskeeper Willie, Comic Book Guy, Mr Burns etc. etc. Abu gets the same treatment. No more. No less. Although many of his features have actually been quite positive compared to many main characters him being hardworking, polite (while other are usually sloppy and stupid) and he is usually the one grounded on reality while others easily go to cuckoo land with their opinions and solutions.
In some ways The Simpsons had to start sucking because the 80's culture, and especially the 80's TV culture, that the show was built to satirize just plain ceased to exist. Take the Flanderization of Ned Flanders. In his original incarnation, the point of him was that he was the cultural ideal of the perfect man, someone Homer hated for purely petty reasons, because he was everything Homer was supposed to be but knew he could never be. The dad in every sitcom before Fox came along was more of a Ned than a Homer. Only a few years later, that cultural reference point makes absolutely no sense at all because that idea of what a man is supposed to be is long dead, in no small part because of The Simpsons. They had to do something else with him, so they focused on the part of his character that aged the worst, namely the idea that the ideal man should be religious.
I thought they started Flanders', uh, Flanderization since 2000, when Dubya was elected President, so they did that as a Take That! to him and all of the political right.
paco ramon The hit to miss ratio keeps getting worse and worse the longer the show goes on. Another factor to consider is that the show is outliving its cast members now.
last good season was the 11th, yes 10 and 11 season have weak episodes but a lot are good, plus the episode "Behind the Laughter" describes perfectly this was the season to end the show.
The older episodes emphasized what you can do with animation, jokes you could make with an exaggerative cartoon style, newer ones seem to hop on the newest trends with the same stiff family guy-etc animation, and not pushing it's boundaries like back in the day.
Lukey the VideoMonkey No coincidence that that’s also when Phil Hartman was murdered. With him went both Troy McClure and Lionel Hutz, two of the show’s best supporting characters, and one of them briefly an uncle to Bart, Lisa, and Maggie.
@doesnotcompute81 Troy McClure was briefly married to Selma Bouvier, thus making him the children's Uncle while they were married. Bringing back Danny DeVito would solve nothing because he would be beholden to the same writing problems like every other late-era sequel-cameo and because it would just be another reminder of how far their standards have dropped. It has gotten to the point where I would rather watch reruns of VALERIE than subject myself to any more of it.
That example of the balloon episode had me DYING in laughter. And that was a 30 second clip. Considering nothing in recent years of the Simpsons has had me crack up like that says it all.
Man. Flashbacks. I still own my “The Best of The Simpsons”, “The Simpsons Go Hollywood” & “Political Party” VHS tapes. And I own the first 7 seasons on DVD. They just don’t make TV like they used to.
The thing is, there wasn't a clearly defined cutoff point. You _can_ point to The Principal and the Pauper (S9E02) as the first really _bad_ episode, as indeed many people have including the writing staff themselves, for completely undermining an established character just for the sake of creating a plot for the episode to follow. Yet even then, there are a lot of good gags in that episode and a lot of good episodes in that season. I was going through the synopses and was surprised to find that there are even a couple of my favourite episodes all the way into season 10 -- like the iconic one sampled for this video's thumbnail where Homer reunites with his mother and finds what his forgotten middle name is. Yeah, that was season 10!! Not a whole lot beyond that sticks with me, though.
I chart the show's decline in how memorable each season is overall. S1-9 I can quote all day long, and some of the more emotional storylines can still tug on my heartstrings. S10-12 have some memorable episodes but a lot of forgettable ones also. Anything post-s13 is basically white noise to me.
The voice acting in the old Simpsons was so much better. Not just because everyone didn't sound burned out, but for some reason, the new episodes sound like each of their lines were recorded all at different times. It just doesn't sound like they're responding to each other.
At 3:58 I heard the music in the background, and thought to myself "I should probably shut my DS". Then I realized that my DS is closed, and that I was hearing it from the phone
That kind of 'joke tagging' was also done a ton by Monty Python, and it's really obvious in tons of their work. When you have team of 4 solid comedians who could all come up with good punchlines to any setup, that means they get to make punchlines for each others punchlines, and then punchlines for those punchlines, on and on and on. For some people it's a bit too weird and british to be enjoyable but it does the tagging so well. I mean throughout the entirety of Monty Python and the Holy Grail there's a running tagging joke about something that started as a budget issue. They can't afford horses. So they foley the sound of them by banging coconut halves together. What about the actors? Just have them prance like they're on horses and have one holding the coconuts. One of the first jokes is "where'd you get the coconuts?" and that gets carried on and on, with the joke even becoming the killing blow against a magician impeding their progress. From "where've you got coconuts from?" to "how did they get here?" to "how much can a bird carry?" to "what kind of bird?" It even had the classic "joke going on so long it stops being funny, then keeps being funny because it's still going" thing long before it was run into the ground with the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
the last drop of quality end in the season 13 with They'll Never Stops The Simpsons song.. we watch a lot of references for say this is the final and the new seasons are worse than before: Jumping the shark, bart have a bear( recycling stories like the Bart´s elephant) marge robot... well, it was good while it lasted
@@laurene988 the up coming season is the last season. It is broken up into two parts. First at the end of October 2019, and the final part at the end of January next year
I’ve always said that that was one of the strongest openings to a Simpsons episode. I guess he also noticed it. He skipped the gag where the bullies start deliberately throwing rock at the car when skinner tells them that it’s his car
I still wish they would do 1 of 2 things 1 fill in gaps in old plots (using questions from old episodes to to fuel new plots) 2 realize that the Simpsons is a psychological show and EXPLORE minor character's psychological characteristics.
If you guys like the old Simpson's humor, check out John Swartzwelder's Frank Burly books. Swartzwelder was one of the most prolific Simpson's writers from the golden years.
Asmosis Jones First Season was had some good episodes even though the animation’s not as good as it is now. Then again it was Season 1 so they improved overtime. Just saying.
The Simpsons use to use Cels and Hand painted colors , And the Animation Director During the Golden years was non other Than Pixar's Brad Bird!!! He left in the late 90's with most of the other staff members. And at the same time a few years later they Switched to Computer coloring and Drawings on Paper rather than Cels. I love the old look so much!
"Hello, my name is Mr. Burns, and I believe you have a letter for me."
"Okay Mr. Burns, what's your first name?"
"I... don't know..."
Charles
It'd be tough as he goes by Monty, his middle name so even if they were on first name basis, homer wouldn't really know his first name is actually Charles.
@ Wow, where did that outburst come from?
@ decaf
@ Lol
The current HD animation is soulless. The characters look static and dead compared to the early seasons rough animation which gave the characters charm and added to the comedy with their facial expressions.
EXACTLY. THANK YOU!!!
The character motion was more fluid and expressive. The new animation is mechanical. You can see this when you compare the old opening with the new HD one, especially how Marge reacts when Maggie goes through the checkout scan.
And how everything was coloured in felt tip
Also the voice actors are either phoning it in, or in marge's case, just wearing out. Marge sounds like she has throat cancer now, and a lot of the other characters played by the same people are blending to actually just sound like the same person.
+ShinRyojin
And a problem being that Matt, James and Sam hated the expressive animation.
_You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try._
*~ Matt Groening*
Hello again
Mr. Friendship stfu BITCH
My life basically.
@Thorne how
@Thorne And where did you get that info?
They just don’t make em’ like Steamed Hams anymore...
If only they did...
Steamed Hams was actually a really good scene tho
Mmm steamed hams
It was a really legendary scene wished that the new seasons were not so lazy on ideas
Just A guy Behind a computer you call them steamed despite the fact there GRILLED
Not just the writing, but the animation. Something about the fuzziness and bad audio quality of the original adds charm to it.
Mcheetah True but Family Guy was kinda always terrible
Nah that's just your nostalgia talking
Samuel Swinton didn’t watch it as a kid, wasn’t allowed
@Source90000 I rewatched the first season not too long ago, and I was honestly underwhelmed and disappointed. I always remembered it being better than it actually is.
@Mcheetah lol what? That's your take on Family Guy? One line and an incomplete quote from the scene? Okay bra
Modern Simpsons is something Classic Simpsons would make fun of.
Totally! And another one with Futurama where they create a paradox for Bender
Season 30 was gem of something that season 21-29 should’ve been
They got rid of the writer's they had in their peak years that's y they flopped
@Unnamed Player true
Dan Kid actually, most of the writers left
To make a long story short: only the creator knows it's creation. You can keep a show alive a long time without losing it's soul but the creator is the soul. The moment a majority of the original writers left is the moment the soul was muddied.
Just as SpongeBob lost its soul when Hillenburg left.
@quickdraw Well right, but also it's not coincidence that both of those series you mentioned Butch created and wrote them.
Does Matt Groening have anything to do with The Simpsons anymore, or is he too busy with Disenchanted (while mourning Futurama with the rest of us)?
Nah, if the showrunner really cared about the show they could keep up the quality enough to at least put out 1-2 great episodes per season. At this point the show is almost a money laundering scam.
I can think of long-running shows or franchises that got better when someone else took over. Star Trek, for instance.
The Simpsons has been running for nearly 30 years, but football in the groin had a football in the groin.
I started watching the entire show during quarantine. I just have to say that the writing was so much better in the early seasons. I legit got sad when homer spends what he thinks were gonna be his last moments in that one episode where everyone thinks he was gonna die because they thought he ate the poison part of a fish.
Yhhh the puffer fish
That episode made me cry ngl
s2 ep11
I don't even think the animation is better, I think that the old animation was way more pretty, now they resemble family guy in terms of the look of the series,( and also in the dumb humor )
Dude, don't say that, Family Guy's animation is possibly the worst. You can literally see that most of the time, the only movement on screen are the characters blinking. It's that static.
Burn Angel family guy is an amazing show
@@nolan2869 I didn't say anything about its quality, I've talked about its animation.
Though it's quality went down as time passed, like The Simpsons.
Simpson' animation is, I'd say, basic, but not lazy. It's serviceable for sure. Family Guy I admit is static, but I don't really see the issue... It's still watchable.
@@GoodMorningUSA1 That'd be like saying ET on Atari is playable. Sure, you can play it beginning to end, but the fact that it works doesn't mean it's passable.
Honestly surprised he didn’t have his avatar in the Simpson style for this vid
Best example of tagging:
Homer: you’re never gonna eat meat again?
Lisa: no I’m a vegetarian now.
Homer: you mean you’re never gonna eat bacon?
Lisa: no
Homer: your never gonna eat pork chops?
Lisa: no
Homer: your never gonna eat ham?
Lisa: DAD those all come from the same animal.
Homer: (sniggers) yeah right Lisa, like there’s some magical animal where all the delicious meats come from.
Andy Han Snickers* man.
The early French dub isn't too bad, but now that I've seen it in English, I'm not sure they understood that Homer was being sarcastic/coy (not sure which one it is) he delivers that line 100% straight, like he is explaining it to Lisa.
So there was no joke.
I used to feel dumb as a kid because I didn't get it when my friends/siblings would laugh at that scene
@@hahaisntitfunny5579 snigger is a word, its just not used very often nowadays, for obvious reasons
Snigga, please.
Please sir, they prefer to be called Safrican Samerican
I hate the way Homer’s humour seems to have went from him being unintentionally stupid to him actively trying to be funny (which usually fails miserably and is just cringe to watch)
Implied Lisa, or implode?
Same thing happened with Ricky on trailer park boys
also the new cartoons are computer generated (and lazily animated, south park is now better animated ) so, it lost it's charm there as well.
They don't care as long as they get paid which is fucking pathetic
When familly guy just came out many people say how Peter Griffin is a clone of Homer but now it looks like Home is the clone of Peter Griffin
90's Simpsons were the high point of the series.
Go, Banana!
@deludeddesktopalien Yeppp
*of television
Many of my all time favorite episodes aired in the 00s.
1993-1996 was the golden era
Simpson's writer 1: *makes a self aware joke about how bad the show is*
Simpson's writer 2: "Geez, Homer, you sure do suck tonight."
Simpson's writer 1: "Yeah, suck like a fox!"
*Both laugh until their heads fall on the table crying about their life choices*
That sounds more like Family Guy than the Simpsons the Simpsons rarely does meta humor.
icecream hero except about fox
@@henryward3742 And anything political...which i guess still comes back to Fox
Five years under Disney and they’ll be nostalgic for those days.
They rarely do that. That sounds more like Teen Titans Go.
"Yep, our show sucks now. Too bad we're not going to do anything about it."
This painfully illustrates modern Cartoon Network and all the kids that think being "self aware" is some genius form of comedy that deflects criticism.
I always thought it was worse that way because they acknowledge they're bad, but refuse to anything about it. It is so refreshing to see someone else point this out, because it's a real problem in the industry.
People watch, so they don't care. Vote with your wallet.
It's one thing to be self aware, like the first two Shrek movies, and the other is just laziness and an attempt to entertain the minimum common denominator.
Same here. My brother watches these shows out of habit now. I personally see The Simpsons as a zombie that has yet to be killed and it needs to end seriously.
That's exactly why I hate CinemaSins.
And there are ways to make cartoons still be fresh while lasting as long as The Simpsons. Looney Toons has made 100's of short films and they were still good for a long time
At least Homer is still a better father than Peter Griffin
Anyone is a better father than Peter Griffin
Homer may be dumb but he’s not (usually) an asshole like Peter
Sucks, cuz Peter used to be nice and funny as well. Remember in the really old episodes of Family Guy (so when Meg was voiced by Lacey Chabert) and he'd always try to help Meg up when she fell down? He was stupid, but he cared. Now look what happened... I'll always remember that episode when Meg finally stood up to everyone and it felt like we were finally getting a satisfying pay-off but then they just threw it right back in her and our faces because apparently, self-parodies/caricatures are funny and they wanted to carry on devolving their characters.
Nolan Nolan as far as I remember he never cared about meg lol no one did
@@mrthanos8140 But Meg is way better than Lisa. Hank Hill was better than both Homer & Peter.
I actually forgot this was a ls mark video after the writer guy started talking
YOU'LL NEVER STOP THE SIMPSONS
HAVE NO FEAR WE'VE GOT STORIES FOR YEARS
Hex LIKE MARGE BECOMES A ROBOT
@@davesmith3075 Or how about a crazy wedding! Where something happens and doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo~
Raye Lanchard it's doh not doo
Maybe Moe gets a cell phone, has Bart ever owned a bear?
Don’t leave out Season 8. There were a lot of really good episodes in that season.
people give seasons 9-13 shit
Season 8 has 75% good episodes but some episodes were meh.
Season 8 gave us "Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiali Annoyed Grunt cious"
One of the best episodes ever, it tackles Disney parodies.
@@RyanTheDark even the worst season 8 episode is better than anything made after
Season 8 is amazing! 9 is still good, but 10 like 40% were good. The Simpsons were at there peak though when Conan was there because he could act out each scene and brought so much energy too the writing room.
I'm in the mood for some Steamed Hams right now .
Nathaniel Foga well then i hope you’re ready for an unforgettable luncheon
You call Hamburgers Steamed Hams?
**eats** You know these burgers are similar to the ones they have at rusty burger
Nathaniel Foga I thought you said that we’re having steamed clams
@@PannierLaw "And you call them 'steamed hams' when they're obviously grilled."
I think we can all agree that modern Simpsons is boring to watch.
I think they should just cancel it already and focus on disench....never mind the writers will ruin it
There are a vocal few who enjoy the modern simpsons and they're reasons aren't that terrible.
Non Chicago Economic School Advocate So what are their reasons?
“I guess this is a case where we’ll have to agree to disagree.”
“I don’t agree to that.”
“Me neither.”
Well, this is a dilly of a pickle.
(But really, I do agree. The Simpsons is unwatchable after season 9.)
Modern day Simpsons animation. Is so refined that it looks so generic. That you appreciate the authenticity and artistic integrity that the older seasons had.
I’ve been watching some of the older episodes recently. Nearly all of them had an emotional ending that left the viewer feeling good, like when Marge goes to Rancho Relaxo, the Mr. Bergstrom episode or when Homer covers up the sign at his desk with photos of Maggie so it says “Do it for her”. None of that happens now, in fact some episodes finish short and they have something totally unrelated to fill in the last couple of minutes.
The last time I laughed was when homer sent lisa a meme of himself merging with the bushes
Can you send me a link to a clip or the merge?
These shows always go downhill when they get taken over by people who are trying to emulate what made the original great. Ultimately, they're going to simultaneously interpret and emulate the show, and if their interpretation isn't perfect the show's going to suddenly be different.
"Hello, Mr. Thompson."
"I think he's talking to you."
Huh, i never thought about how structurely complex simpson jokes were.
What about “Bart vs. Australia” where Bart ends having to apologize to the Australian government because he tried to find out the way toilet water spins?
The quote I always think of is Homer singing “I am so smart! S-M-R-T!”
Aguest first level in hit and run
You: "The old grey mare, she ain't what she used to be..."
The Old Man Singers: "Ain't what they used to be..."
Just recently started watching the old episodes again and didn’t wanna stop watching. The new episodes I ignore and do not acknowledge.
Jesus I’ve spent the past 4 hours watching this channel. It’s so easy to go down the rabbit hole. Good job Mark!
Bart Gets an F is my favourite episode.
The whole episode is straight to the point, even if it is your FIRST episode you can still feel for the character. This is all you need to watch to know Barts character.
Season 1 and 8 are also great.
And 30
@@jimbob2427no anything under Disneys thumb is woke new Simpsons episodes are disgusting to watch.
@@JSwag_Reviews the latest seasons have been good like season 30
@@jimbob2427I wouldn't say the new seasons are good per se but there's definitely some hidden gems to be found like a serious flanders, pixelated and afraid and lisa the boy scout
Okay first off. Great episode, I love it, any time in my life where I get to talk Simpson’s or share in a moment that reflects the void that any avid fan feels growing up with the simpsons. The way You and Alan perfectly explain why the “Golden years” through the tagging, was so eloquently put. I just loved this whole video.
My next part is directly for Alan Denton. Please. Make a channel. Where you dissect old Simpson’s jokes or episodes, or just talk about them. Your way with words are so good that with content like what you did for the “rocking skinners car joke”, on the Bart’s comet episode. Like even if it’s just revealing all the tagging. I knew what the heck was going to to happen even, with all the tags!! And I was still just, laughing away, at the way were you broke it down and talked about it.
It gave me a good feeling, knowing that it wasn’t wasted, or taking advantage of. The shows golden years that is. because we watched, we payed attention to every tag..
Just thank you so much for this. And yes Alan Denton. Please make more!!!
8:54 Never ever have I caught that "Snippy Longstockings" background joke until today.
I used to only like the new episodes because they were in HD But now I know how bad they are now
OrangeVase If the writing is funny, you can film it with a potato for all I care.
There not bad at all I still watch the simpsons your just a hater
@@cron205 wtf
@@cron205 umm yeah...
I felt that way about spongebob when i was little
It used to be so hillarious, i always forget how funny it was because of how far it has fallen.
La la la la la
I actually noticed when I went on the ride modern day Simpsons work well in short bursts just like the ride, but the movie was garbage and that’s cuz Conan wasn’t there.
The golden ages are considered season 1-9
It kinda varies but when people talk about the golden age, I've noticed that seasons 1 and 2 are often left out. Season 9 as well.
Seasons 1 and 9 (perhaps 8 as well) are all good, but not quite as solid as 2-7, hence the common exclusion from the Golden Age category. On the first season the series was still in the process of finding its style and personality, and seasons 8 & 9 are where the decline can be already be seen.
I’d say 9 is where the decline began but most of the episodes are still good
Dakotah Mays, my thoughts as well!
I wonder why I didn't think of looking into it closer before, but seems season 9 is quite a hodgepodge of newly produced episodes and rollovers from earlier seasons, which explains the rather odd mixing of golden age feeling material and stuff with the newer direction the series was taking. For example, "Lisa's Sax" and "Simpson Tide" were made during season 7's production, and "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson", "The Principal and the Pauper" and "Lisa the Simpson" being season 8 vintage.
You have to include 1-2. Sure the show got better in 3 but it was a hit from the start. People were hooked., nobody said it was weak...It just got better. and when you actually go back and watch the entire first two seasons, they actually are pretty much classic Simpson's right from the stsrt. It didn't long for them to hit their stride.
Apu was removed from the show because he was “racially stereotypical”. But that was his personality and my favourite side character and they should not have removed him!
pretty sure they backtracked on that decision on account of indians being pissed their only representation in the show was being taken away.
I could be wrong though.
Solaris Twine I hope that’s true
They should a least give him a proper send-off. He deserves it.
Pretty much every Simpsons character has been stereotypical representation of some character arch-type. Homer, Bart, Mayor Quimby, Chief Wiggum, Groundskeeper Willie, Comic Book Guy, Mr Burns etc. etc.
Abu gets the same treatment. No more. No less. Although many of his features have actually been quite positive compared to many main characters him being hardworking, polite (while other are usually sloppy and stupid) and he is usually the one grounded on reality while others easily go to cuckoo land with their opinions and solutions.
Tube Torpedo exactly right.
I gotta say, Bart’s Comet is like my second favorite episode, the scene in the bomb shelter and the whole town joining Flanders in song is moving.
Now a days the Simpsons is just dull, boring and less funny plus the plots aren’t interesting
Your profile picture needs to cease existing
You should improve your grammar
Your profile picture is exquisite. Delicious and bulgy looking.
@@pillowman3740 His grammar has no error, and he's right. Your profile pic looks like Homer from spore
That and it's become chock full of leftist propaganda.
Bart's Comet is hilarious. I'm getting into astronomy, so I might be biased.
front face simpsons appear in my sleep paralysis
Lmao just like front face phineas
I'm a long time Sonic fan. I thought Sonic Boom was hilarious! Thanks for working on Sonic Boom!
In some ways The Simpsons had to start sucking because the 80's culture, and especially the 80's TV culture, that the show was built to satirize just plain ceased to exist.
Take the Flanderization of Ned Flanders. In his original incarnation, the point of him was that he was the cultural ideal of the perfect man, someone Homer hated for purely petty reasons, because he was everything Homer was supposed to be but knew he could never be. The dad in every sitcom before Fox came along was more of a Ned than a Homer. Only a few years later, that cultural reference point makes absolutely no sense at all because that idea of what a man is supposed to be is long dead, in no small part because of The Simpsons. They had to do something else with him, so they focused on the part of his character that aged the worst, namely the idea that the ideal man should be religious.
I thought they started Flanders', uh, Flanderization since 2000, when Dubya was elected President, so they did that as a Take That! to him and all of the political right.
When you asked about our favorite lines im surprised at how little people have said “I’ll krump with you sweetie pie”
"OH MY GOD!
TRAMAPOLINE!
TRABAPOLINE!"
antasmeme “Please, don’t bring home any more old crutches!”
"Oh no you don't! That trampoline is MINE"
*slams into another car*
Modern simpsons just screams please end me end the pain
"Gym? What's a gym? Ohhh, a gym!"
"i'm sure everybody has a simpsons line they bring up every so often"
I pretty much quote the simpsons in my everyday life at this point
I find it pretty awesome you actually brought in Alan for this video. Definitely learned something new today.
every time they talk about the "good" season, the list goes shorter and shorter it was seasons 2-9 not a long time ago.
paco ramon The hit to miss ratio keeps getting worse and worse the longer the show goes on. Another factor to consider is that the show is outliving its cast members now.
last good season was the 11th, yes 10 and 11 season have weak episodes but a lot are good, plus the episode "Behind the Laughter" describes perfectly this was the season to end the show.
I’d say anything after season 20 is considered ok, and season 26 and beyond is just bad
I know many fans say the jumping the shark moment was the episode "The Principal and the Pauper" what was a season 9 episode
Kitcomics to fucking late. Keep it dead at 2000
The older episodes emphasized what you can do with animation, jokes you could make with an exaggerative cartoon style, newer ones seem to hop on the newest trends with the same stiff family guy-etc animation, and not pushing it's boundaries like back in the day.
Kind of what Rocky & Bullwinkle was for the time.
Simpsons: slowly dying since 1998
Lukey the VideoMonkey I’d say 1996 with most of the original writers leaving but yeah the late ‘90’s was a bad time for animated shows.
Lukey the VideoMonkey No coincidence that that’s also when Phil Hartman was murdered. With him went both Troy McClure and Lionel Hutz, two of the show’s best supporting characters, and one of them briefly an uncle to Bart, Lisa, and Maggie.
@@Attmay Phil Hartman was amazing
@doesnotcompute81 Troy McClure was briefly married to Selma Bouvier, thus making him the children's Uncle while they were married.
Bringing back Danny DeVito would solve nothing because he would be beholden to the same writing problems like every other late-era sequel-cameo and because it would just be another reminder of how far their standards have dropped. It has gotten to the point where I would rather watch reruns of VALERIE than subject myself to any more of it.
1997
That example of the balloon episode had me DYING in laughter. And that was a 30 second clip. Considering nothing in recent years of the Simpsons has had me crack up like that says it all.
"I'll never show my naked rear end again!"
"I'd like to believe that this time. I really would."
I need to do a video on why I feel the top three seasons of the Simpsons are 2, 1 and 9. (Yes of course 3-8 are amazing)
Oh man, that intro music made me remember all of Simpsons hit and run.
I loved the stacking of jokes the Simpsons could pull off, the best thing about the show
Man. Flashbacks.
I still own my “The Best of The Simpsons”, “The Simpsons Go Hollywood” & “Political Party” VHS tapes.
And I own the first 7 seasons on DVD.
They just don’t make TV like they used to.
I loved to simpsons when I was a kid and my favorite show of all time is South Park
I always wanted to Simpsons too
Do the Simpsons
Family guy
I would definitely add season 8 in the Golden Age of the show.
The thing is, there wasn't a clearly defined cutoff point. You _can_ point to The Principal and the Pauper (S9E02) as the first really _bad_ episode, as indeed many people have including the writing staff themselves, for completely undermining an established character just for the sake of creating a plot for the episode to follow. Yet even then, there are a lot of good gags in that episode and a lot of good episodes in that season. I was going through the synopses and was surprised to find that there are even a couple of my favourite episodes all the way into season 10 -- like the iconic one sampled for this video's thumbnail where Homer reunites with his mother and finds what his forgotten middle name is. Yeah, that was season 10!!
Not a whole lot beyond that sticks with me, though.
@@MediaMunkee You just pinpointed the direct cutoff point.
I chart the show's decline in how memorable each season is overall. S1-9 I can quote all day long, and some of the more emotional storylines can still tug on my heartstrings. S10-12 have some memorable episodes but a lot of forgettable ones also. Anything post-s13 is basically white noise to me.
@@dy120481 nah season 9 is still overall good
@@alfa01spotivo Nah, it's the beginning of the end.
thank you SO much for helping to make *something* good out of Sonic Boom, Alan.
Alan's explanation of Children's television explains SOOOOOOOOO much about modern kids tv & why it sucks so bad.
What do you mean?
Denton missed the first "Tag"; when Skinner says "That's my car, children" the kids start actively aiming rocks at his car, ignoring the balloon.
Damn, I *thought* this part was in there, too, but then did not trust my memory. I should have.
I laughed at skinner’s car thing so hard
When Nelson and Jimbo started aimin' at Skinner's car LOOOOOOOOL
Marge: You like Japanese things, Homie -- like that movie "Rashomon"!
Homer: That's not how *I* remember it!
one of the most underrated jokes in the entire show, swear to god
what made the Simpsons good
memes
The Boondocks holds the best examples of tags in a comedy show imo
Seasons 1-3 were magic. Season 4 was okay but still way more watchable than a lot of stuff today, Simpsons included.
Two things I can see saving the simpsons: Let it end and show reruns, or let it evolve like most modern shows nowadays do.
Never has there been that huge of a dip in quality than the Simpsons.
Congratulations on making it into a videogamedunkey video earlier!
Why are the Simpsons yellow instead of their original color green?
RJ Lopez to be seen on the scanner when it scans each slide
The voice acting in the old Simpsons was so much better. Not just because everyone didn't sound burned out, but for some reason, the new episodes sound like each of their lines were recorded all at different times. It just doesn't sound like they're responding to each other.
I feel so proud that I recognised all the names from the golden age
Whenever I tell people how to binge-watch the Simpsons, I say just watched Season 1 through 8 and just stop watching soon after.
At 3:58 I heard the music in the background, and thought to myself "I should probably shut my DS". Then I realized that my DS is closed, and that I was hearing it from the phone
Bro same
That kind of 'joke tagging' was also done a ton by Monty Python, and it's really obvious in tons of their work. When you have team of 4 solid comedians who could all come up with good punchlines to any setup, that means they get to make punchlines for each others punchlines, and then punchlines for those punchlines, on and on and on. For some people it's a bit too weird and british to be enjoyable but it does the tagging so well. I mean throughout the entirety of Monty Python and the Holy Grail there's a running tagging joke about something that started as a budget issue. They can't afford horses. So they foley the sound of them by banging coconut halves together. What about the actors? Just have them prance like they're on horses and have one holding the coconuts. One of the first jokes is "where'd you get the coconuts?" and that gets carried on and on, with the joke even becoming the killing blow against a magician impeding their progress.
From "where've you got coconuts from?" to "how did they get here?" to "how much can a bird carry?" to "what kind of bird?"
It even had the classic "joke going on so long it stops being funny, then keeps being funny because it's still going" thing long before it was run into the ground with the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
*"aS a PrOfFeSsIoNaL wRiTeR"*
This verdict is written on a cocktail napkin! And it still says guilty! And guilty is spelled wrong!
the last drop of quality end in the season 13 with They'll Never Stops The Simpsons
song.. we watch a lot of references for say this is the final and the new seasons are worse than before: Jumping the shark, bart have a bear( recycling stories like the Bart´s elephant) marge robot...
well, it was good while it lasted
Also,this is making me feel a bit better that Bojack is ending, before it starts to go down hill.
Really? When is it ending?
@@laurene988 the up coming season is the last season. It is broken up into two parts. First at the end of October 2019, and the final part at the end of January next year
@@CeticWales huh weird. I'm guessing it won't have a happy ending. Sociopaths rarely ever do
@Kyel ! I totally read that as Kyle from South Park (if you get me)
I’ve always said that that was one of the strongest openings to a Simpsons episode. I guess he also noticed it. He skipped the gag where the bullies start deliberately throwing rock at the car when skinner tells them that it’s his car
3:03 "nowidunnowhacommunotisammninshows THESE days" speak up lol
They used to have a "Laughmocracy" in the Writers Room.
I still wish they would do 1 of 2 things
1 fill in gaps in old plots (using questions from old episodes to to fuel new plots)
2 realize that the Simpsons is a psychological show and EXPLORE minor character's psychological characteristics.
If you guys like the old Simpson's humor, check out John Swartzwelder's Frank Burly books. Swartzwelder was one of the most prolific Simpson's writers from the golden years.
Oh my god, a writer for the second season of sonic boom. I seriously admire your work. Is sonic boom ever gonna come back?
I Hope It Comes Back
"Sucks like a fox"
OWO
"Sucks like a fox!" OwO WHAT'S DIS!?
Let’s just pretend that the Simpsons ended/got cancelled after season 8. Though I think even S8 was kinda a sign that it was kinda getting bad.
im still glad seasons 8-12 exist their not terrible...just some episodes are very generic ...I know its not season 2-7 but its still funny enough
Asmosis Jones First Season was had some good episodes even though the animation’s not as good as it is now. Then again it was Season 1 so they improved overtime. Just saying.
8 is my favorite season,Homers Enemy and Hank Scorpio are both season 8 and both top 5 episodes
season 8 and 9 are great
It had a nice mix of comedy drama emotion
LS Mark deserves way more subscribers for the amount of work he does
It's pretty awesome to see one of the writers of Sonic boom appear in this video. 😁
Simpsons have been shit for 15 years....and I LOVE the first 10 seasons or so
I think if the Simpsons ended at season 10 I'd die happy
Why are you talking about the show after the couch gag?
Nobody watches that!
The Simpsons use to use Cels and Hand painted colors , And the Animation Director During the Golden years was non other Than Pixar's Brad Bird!!! He left in the late 90's with most of the other staff members. And at the same time a few years later they Switched to Computer coloring and Drawings on Paper rather than Cels. I love the old look so much!
I agree the old episodes look was better!!👍
I wonder if you going to talk about video games not video games cartoon