How to Quickly Remove Internal Weld Seams from Steel Tubing
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Who needs to remove internal weld seams from steel tubing?! Makers EVERYWHERE that need two pieces of square steel tube to 'sleeve' together, that's who! That little internal weld prevents two pieces that 'should' fit together from doing so but removing the thin bead of steel from the ENTIRE length of the outer piece of square tube is nearly impossible... UNTIL NOW!
This video shows how you can make a Version 1.0 "Seams Impossible" tool just like the one invented by Matt Jackson of Next Level Carpentry. This clever invention cuts away the weld bead from inside a piece of 1 1/4" square steel tube OF ANY LENGTH completely and almost effortlessly so that a piece of 1" square tube fits neatly and smoothly inside!
To take the invention to a whole 'Next Level' I collaborated with Greg Porter of @Greg's Garage who contributed his insight and abilities to develop a Version 2.0 ''Seams Impossible" tool that is easily adaptable to remove that pesky weld seam from virtually ANY SIZE square steel tube regardless if the seam is centered in a face of the tube or not!! This link is for a video on Greg's Garage Channel that shows the fascinating process of his CNC in action making a Version 2.0 tool out of a small billet of aircraft grade aluminum. Follow along and you can make one of your own, provided you have a CNC in your shop that does more than hold the floor down: • Can you Remove a Weld ...
If you need to remove internal weld seams and lack the ability or interest to make one, just hit this link... it will take you directly to Greg's Garage Web Store where you can buy your very own V2.0 Seams Impossible tool: gregsgaragekc....
Even if you don't need a Seams Impossible tool you NEED to check out the S#*@ Welders Say video on the Greg's Garage Channel on CZcams (it includes 'adult language' but is tastefully done... even if you question the adult-ness of the welders in the video 🤣) • $*#t Welders Say
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Here's a popular video showing "the allthread method" for removing internal weld seams:
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And here's the 'brute force/drive-thru' method:
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Please don't trash these guys for their videos showing effective alternative methods for doing this... they were able to get the job done with less fuss and fabrication which may well be all that's needed!
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Quickly …. 40’ minute video ?
Yes, the Seams Impossible removes internal weld seams quickly. The extra 39 minutes of the video are an in-depth look into the design of the tool, actually showing viewers how to make their own tool. But I suspect you're more interested in posting lame comments than to appreciate such things...
In my books, this custom tool of yours is a simple and superb piece of macgyverism refined to the next level.(: Even the wooden version performs admirably and it would seem I need to make one or two for myself! Thank you for sharing this with us!
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Could have used this about 15yrs ago when I was still doing custom fabrication welding projects, your solution would truely have been a great timesaver. I appreciate watching people coming up with creative solutions, great job sir.
this idea has been around for a long time.
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As an engineer with 42 years of professional experience myself, I am nicely surprised when seeing the creativity and ingenuity of people at CZcams, my sincere admiration sir. Keep up your good work.
That's quite a compliment Alfredo... thank you! I'll pass it along to Greg's Garage who is working furiously to get ready for packing and shipping many hundreds of Seams Impossible tools from the pre-sale... fun stuff! Best, Matt
This is definitely a viable idea, we have been using the same tool to remove weld seams from square tubing for over 40 years. Ours is a bit different in that we actually have a separate block for each size tubing, but we only cut 3 sizes. We used a smaller WIDTH block and put various bolt on shims on the sides in order to shift the tool to hit the weld seam, as it changes location with every batch of tubing.
Did you use a self made or commercial tool?
@@hardcase1659 I guess you would consider it self made. Our tooling department manufactured it. Since we never marketed the tool to the public, you really wouldn't consider it commercial.
I would not have thought there'd be any videos on how to remove the weld seam in steel tubing. But, I'm sure this is the best. This is truly next level stuff. I may never use this tool but I'm sure I learned a technique or two by watching.....which of course is the point of many of your videos Matt. Great job.
The main application for the Seams Impossible tool and process is for the upcoming outfeed roller stand build video series where I'll use it (and refer to this video) to make the sleeving parts for height adjustment and dissassembly connections SOOOO if you end up making a set of those stands you may use this unexpectedly Rick... as always; thanks for watching and commenting here! Best, Matt
This is pretty good at what it does.. but fireball tool shows a simple DIY tool that takes 10 to 15 min to build and uses I high speed steel scraper inside a scrap slug uf the inside tubing size and you simple use all thread and a impact to draw it through any length tube you want. You could strip a 10 foot long section in minutes.
This is the best solution to removing the internal weld I have seen. I have tried other techniques with only fair results.
Thanks for sayin' John! We feel the same way about it but realize the Seams Impossible Tool isn't the only game in town😁😎 Best, Matt
Simply priceless did file labor intensive so so results excellent tool made with clean results TFTS.
In my mind, instructional videos and forum interfaces are the most beautiful aspects of the internet. They allow regular people to teach and communicate openly without the "production" controls and restrictions that shape and, quite honestly, dumb down damn near everything we see and hear through mainstream big-money media venues. I want to thank the good folks at Next Level Carpentry for their efforts to bring their unique talents to the public. This instructional video clearly demonstrates everything that a powerful audio/video communications venue should be about. Please keep up the great work.
It's Discerning viewers like you who see and appreciate the difference between content quality and content quantity that makes all the effort put forth at next level carpentry worthwhile. CZcams's algorithm tends to work against us but as long as there are viewers like you out there channels that focus on producing useful content will continue to grow and thrive... Thank you!
@@NextLevelCarpentry This message is predicated on the assumption that you're the fellow in the video. Quite honestly, sir, you remind me of the people I grew up with/around in the (rural) deep south. I learned more useful "life skills" from those folks than I ever did after I put on a uniform and left the farm. Most of the people around me now couldn't change a wiper blade on their own vehicles, even if they had written instructions with photos in them. There's really no limit on what can come from the will to be self-reliant: and you're clearly demonstrating that in videos like this one. At about 7:45, you described how you pondered finding a better way to deal with the problem at hand. Well, sir, you're presently reading words coming from a guy who has the exact same issue...something I call a "mental itch" and, Heaven help me, that itch sticks with me until the issue at hand is solved. I also want to add that I came from the wood working "school" before I ever learned how to work with metallic materials. As your channel is called Next Level Carpentry (NLC), I assume that we also have that in common. This is my first NLC video, but I look forward to exploring more of them in the future. Please keep the faith.
In the round tube fabrication industry, the internal seam weld is removed using a scarfing car. It's basically the same concept as your tool. It spins as it's pulled through. You can't spin in a square tube. It's good to see guys like you solving every-day issues.
I’ve watched SO MANY guys that make 2x72 grinders mess with filing that weld. Oh man grinder makers are going to love this! Great work!
Just wanted to say this is a super-slick invention. Thank you for sharing!
For my 2" wide belt sander build, I took a piece of solid 6061-T6 about 12" long and machined it to a square that would just fit inside the tube. Then I measured and machined a groove that would fit a 5/16" keyway broach. I now have a keyway mandrel that will guide the broach over the internal weld and cleanly cut the weld excess away. Rather than cut a radius on the mandrel to fit the tube, I just cut a rebate on the 4 edges since the heavy wall tubing I was using did not have a consistent internal radius in any of the corners. I also cut long brass strips of shim stock to make the shims needed to move the broach about .010 per pass until the weld was removed. I'd make a pass from one end, then flip the tube and run a pass from the other direction. Since our Dake arbor press would not accommodate the length of the tube and extended broach, I had to use the hydraulic press to get the broach about 1/2 into the pass, then I could switch to the arbor press. Also, watch out for different tubing manufacturers because they are not all made with the weld in the center and I ran into some tubing with the weld offset to one side which required me to cut another broach slot on the opposite side from where I cut the slot for the centered weld. I also used a broach that was already a bit abused with a chipped tooth and I wouldn't recommend using a good broach since the weld material seemed to be fairly cruddy. Since my tube stock came out of a junk pile and was fairly rusty, it first got dunked into my electrolysis rust remover system to get the tubes as clean as possible. Overkill? You bet! But I had access to the materials, and it was more of an exercise to prove it could be done this way.
I must say I am flabbergasted at your most excellent video, wonderful teaching as well as
a positive message. I could listen to this artist speak on many topics. Yes, I’m ordering the tool. I will save significant amounts by making my own tubing projects. I am 57 Yrs old and have owned my own contracting / excavating / welding, Etc. Business for 30 years. Yep, that tool is worth every penny to me. Thank you!
Hearing such compliments from someone who has both literally and figuratively been 'in the trenches' for more than half his life is truly rewarding William. Thanks for watching, commenting AND ordering a Seams Impossible tool... speaking for Greg and myself we really appreciate it. We hope the tool makes you life simpler and projects more profitable... that's the best testimony we can hope for! Best, Matt
great idea, very easily removes a huge problem. Also I would like to say, this video is totally sound knowledge and not one second of wasted time. Great job!
I love the fusion of wood and steel to solve a problem overcoming the weaknesses of one material with the complimentary strengths of the other.
I really like your tool and video for the Seams Impossible. I am an electrician with 35 years in the trade and experienced mostly in commercial and some heavy industrial work. In your video you mentioned collaboration with other trades to come up with better solutions to issues on the job. I also came up with an invention a few years ago and as a result I expanded my tool collection. This made me search out someone to do machining for me. Most shops I found in my area do highly precision work for aerospace and performance automotive. They weren’t interested in my work. So I proceeded alone. The best tool I have in my tool box is a willingness to work with other tradesmen. Some of the projects that I’m most proud to have been a part of involved working together to hand over something that was exactly what they wanted. By working with other trades I’ve learned a lot about other trades made some good friends and a background that keeps me going with my projects. My current project is making a mount for a train bell from the 1850’s, I’ve got train track, large structural lumber and finish woodworking along with metal work. It’s been a really cool project. I’ll be purchasing the Seams Impossible, I ran into the problem you found the answer to. I got past it with a rotary file and extension, but what a pain in the neck. Nice tool, great idea
Always nice to hear from like-minded folks Scott... hope your train bell project goes well! Feel free to post comments about any projects you do that are made simpler with the Seams Impossible... we're anxious to hear how the tool gets used 'out in the wilds'! Best, Matt
I lift my hat with deep respect, watching all that creativity and innovativeness shown in inventing and developing this new tool that didn't even exist a while ago! All the best to you, Matt!
I'm honored Hannu as is Greg, I'm sure! It's fun to share this sort of stuff with makers who appreciate it... Best, Matt
Really ingenious solution to a well-known problem! Thank you for sharing the DIY version while providing a ready-made tool at the same time! BR from Germany
You're welcome Wolfhard... it was our intent from the beginning to help viewers solve a problem many makers encounter without a bunch of salesmanship and hype so thanks for noticing! Best, Matt
Very neat idea. I use an air chisel gun with an extra-long dog-leg chisel (reground for flush cutting). Gets me 200mm from each end, 400mm total. I can see that your method could have unlimited reach with enough extension rods. Well done on the design.
I love this tool. I would make a couple small changes. Shave a flat spot on the shaft where the set screws go so the screws have a flat surface of the shaft to tighten up to and prevent spinning. Go one step further and cut a shallow v-groove into the flat spot to line up with the set screws so a pointed screw could be used and make it almost impossible to it to slip. Having a flat spot as well as a groove make it so the user can use flat screws or pointed screws depending on what they have access to or can make themselves. I would also drill a couple small divets to line up with the set screws (pointed tip screws) to prevent the shaft from pulling off the extension. I have a couple more ideas for this tool to try adding but I'll save those to try out in my own shop when I get my new lathe.
Good Job. As a welder for over 15 years I have worked with a lot of square and rectangular tubing. That is very slick and I think you could market that little thing. I am impressed.
20 years ago, I had a build that required square tubing to be sleeved.
I found a distributor for the Plymouth Tubing Co. that makes 4130 seemless chromo tubing, round, square, rectangular. Its very strong, yet easy to work.
By doing the math, I figured out what wall thickness allowed for sleeving. Success was obtained for both square and round.
Still, seemed tubing is easily available...
Great design... kudos!
Great idea for the use of the bearing Matt . I made one very similar using a piece of uhmw nylon cut to a 5'' length and a 6'' long 1/4 diameter shank , 1/2 dia carbide burr with the shaft hole drilled through the nylon at an approximate 2 degree angle . I use beeswax for my cutter lube and have for over 30 years, doesnt fly off the cutter like thin fluids and it is very easy to apply. I tried pushing the bit through as well as pulling and also ended up pulling it. I have used this tool on square and rectangular tube from 1'' to 2'' .very much enjoyed your video.
Thanks electricman... I really like your idea of using a 2 degree angle to get cutting action out of a 1/2" diameter burr since they're a LOT less expensive than the $55 I paid for the 3/4" one seen in the video. Great minds think alike, right? Best, Matt
The half inch burr makes way more sense, the cost alone is a reason to add the angle you mentioned. Plus, the bees wax is a better agent in many applications. Stay safe, Jim
@@aerialrescuesolutions3277 maybe so providing the bit extension doesn't get too restricted in long lengths of tube. Even so I disagree it's a better solution although it certainly sounds functional... I would agree with a "different solution" statement...
@@electricman5010 thanks for clarification! Is there a maximum tube length restriction on your tool? Doesn't sound like it but I'm not able to visualize the angled shank/shaft design without imagining it being limited when the angled extension encounters the inside wall of the tube. As is I imagine making something much like you describe that just gets the job done if I weren't doing it for a CZcams video. I'm intrigued by your use of beeswax instead of 'cootin' Earl' and may need to give that a try. Best, Matt
@@electricman5010 thanks again for politely adding clarification for your useful mouse trap! One more technical question here: did you need bearings or were you able to just let the shank of that carbide Burr spin directly in that plastic block? With your explanation about doing shorter pieces and using a flexible shaft I can now easily envision how your version worked well and got the job done... great minds think alike, yes? 😁😎
Matt, you talked me into sticky gloves..bought a set today and they've already paid dividends..
Now about tubing.. I'm getting behind on my work watching all this cool stuff. When my customers complain I can just tell them, "Hey! Chill! I had to watch Matt's videos!"
They always say, "Well...ok."
Glad you like the 'smurf gloves' Martino... I use 'em all the time and don't remember what I did without 'em!
Not sure what your work is but I promise I won't pull down any videos so you can watch them anytime without worry of missing out! 😉😁😎 Best, Matt
It's great that you invented a tool that was given to me by the man that taught me how to machine almost 40 years ago and it's been in my toolbox ever since
It IS great Robert! Do you have any idea of the revenue this sort of video and invention generate? I guess not because you left a tool JUST LIKE THIS in your toolbox for 40 years and here I come along and harvest the low-hanging fruit while you try to sound smart and original...🤨 You snooze, you lose! Best, Matt
IMPORTANT UPDATE!! To all of those who get a "Bandwidth Exeeded" or similar error message when you go to the Greg's Garage Web Store: Greg was able to contact his web manager (on a Sunday no less) to get the site back up and running yesterday but it appears near VIRAL traffic has caused bandwidth overload again!
It seems the bandwidth overload condition is intermittent because I've tried a few times just now and the Store Page worked fine.
Please try again later as we address the unprecedented traffic generated by curious and enthusiastic viewer interest in the Seams Impossible V2.0 tool and it's usefulness.
Thanks again for your interest and patience!
Best, Matt Jackson/ Next Level Carpentry
No luck
@@michaeladdonizio8687 try again because it is working for others... we know that because of the overwhelming list of orders coming in since the site has been put back up!
We appreciate your interest in the tool and apologize for any difficulties you've experienced... Best, Matt
Would like to view on Gregs site BUT Norton security says DANGEROUS website
@@hugobose2254 I understand your concern Hugo and all I can tell you is that we're closing in on a hundred presale orders so I'm not sure what other users are experiencing. Only do what you're comfortable with but the security protocol I'm Craig web store is in place and working for others.
Sorry for the difficulty and annoyance because we appreciate your interest in the site and the tool!
Best, Matt
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Tell him to change his hosting over the host gator, not a plug for them, they have great service.
@24:36 for those who may be anxious about using a blade so close to the surface you can dado a thicker wood and then thicknesser the entire piece down to the right external size which will make it safer to process
Before you start to cut. Soak the tube in vinegar or muriatic acid overnight. That will remove the mill scale inside the tube and make it smoother.
I worked in a Fab shop for many years and we used a lot of slip jointed tubes and pipes but the exterior parts were always ordered as seamless tube and pipe to avoid this process. It’s not cheap and I like your idea because it’s easily accomplished with simple tools and a little bit of time. Thumbs Up.
Thank you for watching and taking time to comment about your experience and viewpoint!
Much appreciated... Best, Matt
My old dirty trick taught to me by a mean old boilermaker from Belfast was to make a chisel from a short piece of bar stock 3 or 4 inches long in the appropriate shape and size for your tube round? square? it really doesn’t matter. Tap that sucker in a little way and use a rebar or a square bar to tap and push it through. I once saw that dude make a pipe out of a piece of plate.
I wonder if heating up the cutting edge red hot and quenching it would make it harder. You would not have to heat up the whole bar, just the edge that makes contact with the weld seam.
I leave the internal Weld and put a groove on the outer side of the inner peace with a grinder
Thinking outside the box (section) I like it
Looking back at your channel I'm realizing that you've taught me many gold nuggets of knowledge. I've unwittingly used them as second nature forgetting to attribute that knowledge gained to you.
Thank you for your contribution to my life. The knowledge gained here is very valuable.
Why thank you, Joel... ya just made my day with your appreciative comment! Best, Matt
Excellent video I could have used 30 years ago. I'm too old to do it now but I used to make power miter box saw stands using square tubing like you're doing with your stand. I ended up using smaller gauged metal to get past the seam weld. The first thing that came to my mind was what if your seam is off-center too far to reach it? I suppose you'd have to pick out your steel when you purchased it. I really enjoyed this video and followed every bit of your problem solving with each step.
One way to fix the loose-fitting problem is to put the welded nut tightening mechanism on the corner of the tubing.
Thanks so much for this video.
Thank You excellent ----- I felt my IQ rise back up a little bit while watching this video as it dropped 25 points while watching the news
GREAT NEWS for all the viewers and pre-sale customers of the Seams Impossible V2.0 tool who have mentioned 3D printing for custom sized 'jackets' for the tool! Greg's Garage, who's far more capable than I with 3D printing stuff, has created files for 3D printing jackets for common sizes of square/sleeved tubing! Feel free to download the zipped files at this link: bit.ly/SIJacket to use/modify/print them as you see fit. To show appreciation for Greg's 'above and beyond' efforts I only ask that you stop by his website and drop a note of well deserved thanks: gregsgaragekc.com/
Best, Matt
Hey great content and amazing invention! Due to censorship many of us are leaving CZcams please consider also loading your videos onto LBRY, Minds, and/or Bitchute. We must save free speech to stay free. We must stay free to invent and build! Keep up the great work
Any ideas on a variant for ROUND tube or sch40 3/4" or 1" pipe?
I worked in heavy industry with 'form tubing' for years, and we usually needed 'internally scarfed tubing'. While the equipment we used cost A LOT, you can make an actual scarfing device in much-the-same-way that rifling is put into a gun barrel. All you need to scarf a tube is a 'blade holder' (tool holder that will fit through the ID of the desired tubing), a carbide blade, and a winch to draw the 'holder block' through the ID of the tube. This is 'drawing the scarf', and is relatively easy to set up and cheap to operate (not for 'one-off', but for even a few hundred feet of tubing a year, it can pay for itself).
Thank you for the great idea, since you mention "makers", with a 3d printer just print the bearing housing the exact size and offset you need and do away with the carrier / sleeve concept. The labor involved in creating the maple block and building different sizes is tedious so I get the sleeve design. I had to remove the seam from 6 foot long 2 inch tubing with 1/4" walls to make a slide out kitchen for my RV. I designed a tool and printed with 10 percent infill because it is just a hollow carrier for the metal parts and doesn't need to be super strong. I built a 6 foot extension shaft and did the first piece with a couple of iterations. But the next 3 pieces had the seam in a different place ... so change a few numbers and print a few cents of plastic for an exact fit. Also grind two flats on the shaft of the bur so that the setscrews don't protrude and the bur can't slip out.
Excellent idea. I’ll pass this on to a friends that will be interested in it.
Seems impossible 3.0 - threaded holes on top and sides. Then use bolts to fill the gaps in larger pipes.
This would also allow you to offset the tool for a pipe with a non centered weld.
The seam is often near the corner of the tubes
Hi Greg, pleased to meet you..almost eant to say " jpin the club " being an Architect, Baumeister, Eng' muself i've found most Atchitects to have 5 Thumbs on each hand & mostly Art and Design oriented..with relatively few exceptions..at 77 im now re kindling my Knife making skills and work in Exotic Stone Slabs/handles etc. Which i started doing in 1991 and sadly neglected due to " Globe Trotting " & on Hi-Speed projects as Res' Arch'Eng..keep up the good work Buddy..!!
Som Beech!!!! One of those "I'll almost never need it but have to have it" kind of tools... Almost never being the key words!!! Thanks for the great video!!!
My family was in the steel service business and I am aware that one can buy seamless square tubing, though it may be somewhat more expensive than the seamed type. The tubes are extruded.
otm646.... problem with the seamless is the wall thickness is so thin.
I was looking for a comment about seamless tubing. My immediate thought was does he know about seamless tubing? Is it not very well known? We use it fairly frequently at my work.
Fireball Tools did a video awhile back where he made a tool similar to that for removing seams.
Fireball Tool's video is definitely popular but his method and tool are entirely different... functional, but different. 😉
Totally different technique from fireball
As an inventor. I think you have done a fine job. As a fabricator, I know for sure that I have been in need of this ability several times.
As reality. I know for sure that your tool will sell and be needed.
At this time. I believe you can sell that block for 20 bucks all day. But 40 ? That's a big bite. And most people have the shanks and bits. So a package as you mentioned for that price may not go far. However : you still have not completed its totality. So. If you had several sizes that also can be cost effective. You can group them togather in a kit. And then it might actually sell several. I can see also a few other ways to make this. And it just gets better from there.
Peace, and thanks again. I think I'll subscribe.
Fantastic solution! For shorter weld seams I use a 1/2" x 18" air belt sander but that only good for lengths under 15". After checking my tube stock, I discovered that only about 1/3 of my tube steel have weld seams centered. Of course I could hand select tube steel for pieces with centered weld seams-which would be time well spent when wanting to sleeve lengths of tube steel. Thanks a million for the video!
In case you didn't pick up on it, the Seams Impossible tool can remove seams anywhere inside tubes as long as they're like 7/16" away from the inside corner simply by offsetting the tool inside the tube with an asymmetric 'shim' like the one shown in the thumbnail for this video at Greg's Garage: czcams.com/video/xhqgy8c8dZ0j/video.htmlj so, for longer projects, it's worth it to hand select pieces with favorable weld location IMHO.
Best,
Matt
should colab with someone who has a 3d printer, I think could probably mass produce this to a point that it would be good enough more economically
Great Video. This is hands down the best technique to remove weld seams. Will the bearings you have on your store fit the CNC version?
Thanks for sayin' nohokum... I do hope the video gets widespread exposure because it's the sort of solution I would go for if I didn't end up developing it to solve the same problem so many others face. For your question: Both the 'bare tool' and 'full featured CNC' versions of the tool come with bearings included (even though this fact was bit ambiguous in my video dialog) and I only assume that these would fit. I included them in the Amazon list for anyone making the Version 1.0 tool out of wood. Hope you get a chance to put this to use! Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentryPretty good deal if you buy the bare tool from Greg and get the drill extension and carbide burr from your store . Less than a hundred bucks. Can't beat that.
Actually, check out Fireball Tools seam cutter, which is both better and faster as it uses a tool bit to cut the seam out vs having to grind it out with a burr..
@@Flying0Dismount Faster and better? Not sure what your criteria is but I disagree completely! Take a look at results in these two time stamps and judge for yourself: czcams.com/video/ozSE7Wrdb1o/video.html czcams.com/video/3jr4Capx8XI/video.html Best, Matt
@@Flying0Dismount Yep, the Fireball version definitely works and he has a lot of great tools. There's a video by Lazy J Metal Works which I think is even better. But for your average woodworker I think Matt's gizmo is a better solution. Now if you're planning to do this on a daily basis you have to consider how long that burr is gonna' last because that's the most expensive component. In that scenario HSS might make more sense because you can resharpen. But as I said for the average woodworker who's only looking to clean up a few tubes Matt's is easier to build and easier to use.
Genius approach to a nagging problem. It's the best way of removing the weld that I've seen so far. You could make extensions to the burr and do any length as well.
Thanks! And you're right: we plan on extensions for use on longer tubes. I've yet to see a limit on maximum length of tube achieved but it might be fun to do 10' + just to say it could be done, right?
Awesome solution to a problem. :)
I made one out of nylon several years ago. I had the same problem with a tube in a tube and that dreaded weld seam.
What about just making the sleeves a bit long so they overhang the carbide burr? Then they will guide the carbide burr until all of the seam is gone. Like a hybrid of the first idea and the sleeve that went all the way through the tube...
Great contribution for developing 'best practices' Espen... I like it! Best, Matt
Or just have an over length section of tube and cut it to length after grinding out the weld seam.
Brilliant! The name is a winner as well.
Been watching this video over again from time to time & I finally pulled the trigger tonight and ordered the Ultimate Kit with all the extra accessories. I'm excited!!!
Well I'm in London, England, so it is already 1:30 a.m. here, but I am staying up for this one! Some time ago I had an idea for fabricating something that needs a square steel section to slide in one of those tubes and I have been wracking my brains ever since trying to come up with a GOOD way of doing this exact task.
You sound just like me a month ago Fire Angel... I do believe you'll not doze off as you see 'our problem' solved! Best, Matt
Sweet dreams of sleeving tube with the weld removed, Fire Angel!
Version 3, could be a 3d printed block. Lot's of people have a 3d printer these days
TCC, you said it all, right there.
beat me to it
Hi Matt, Superb lateral thinking! Just wondering, for adjusting to multiple tube diam and even round tube, could you have a sleeve with roller wheels that spread with a screw action to each side and above that would allow infinite variation without the need to make custom sleeves. Could also be used to offset the tool. Mount it behind the Seamless so that it gave room for the Mechanism? Would it be tooo fiddly. Maybe greg could put his thinking cap on.....
Thanks for watching and commenting on this Peter... I like the way you think. Greg and I did a fair amount wrestling with the 'adaptability problem' with Greg doing more than I. Greg went beyond thinking with prototyping etc and, if you check out "The Ultimate Kit" on this page you'll see his clever solution: gregsgaragekc.com/ Although sleeves and shims are less elegant than roller wheels they are considerably less expensive and less 'fiddly' too. I imagine a roller-wheel system could be contrived with a NASA scale research budget but would result in government budget pricing as well 😉 I tend towards optimism and you just never know when another lightbulb moment might occur and result in a Seams Impossible 3 though... Best, Matt
I skipped over the intro, but the way you go through the steps is 1,000% better than the average CZcams! I have no need to watch chips fly etc. or listen to mindless dribble. Time is about the only thing we can't get more of and I am driven away from many videos that can't get to the point quickly and just explain the steps. Impressive tool and instruction skills!
Completely understandable Ron... feel free to skip around and watch only what is meaningful to you. I appreciate you watching and complimenting the takeaway message of the video. Best, Matt
I have no need whatsoever for inside weld removal but I want one of these! Very creative design. The ultimate “necessity is the mother of invention” idea.
Well done!
LOL... the tool is fun to make and we'd be happy to sell you one... it should make a great conversation starter regardless if you ever use it on an internal weld seam,😁😎Best, Matt
this is awesome.. just sold a tool. any plans for an extended length version? i could see myself being limited by a 12" extension. something more like 24" or even 36" would probably take care of all my needs. i guess you could always attach 2-3 of them together. you may have even mentioned it in the video and i missed it. thanks for the info though. this will help me a ton.
Thanks... hope the tool works as well for you as it does for me! Combining those extensions is mentioned in the video and works well for one-off applications IMHO. If you find yourself consistently sleeving longer pieces you can either buy a longer extension or simply cutting a short one and welding in an extra piece of rod to make one of custom length for your projects. Thanks too for buying a Seams Impossible tool!
Damn!!! This means I will not be able to cuss doing it my old fashion way anymore!!!
Great Idea Guys,
w.w./Oklahoma
A neat and elegant solution to an annoying problem. Great work, thanks for sharing.
Love it!! Just regret not seeing this before I cut a groove in an aluminum tooling arm out of frustration from unsuccessfully 31:42 trying to grind that durn seam out of a 12” piece of steel tubing. Bravo!
There are several ways to remove the weld if it is in the middle of a face but when the weld is way off to one side, the options are limited.
Someone let fireball tool know.
Lol was just thinking the same thing
@@dev-debug or any of those pesky successful results!
@@andrewlockwood6102 Right =D Lots of fiddling for "It might have potential."
I do like that disc version they did for rounds but that would definitely need to be hardened in some form, and I bet a concept like this with the grinder could be set up to prevent rotation in the tube itself.
Fireball tool did his a year ago
Very first thing I thought as well.!
Used something similar to this about 20 years ago here in the UK making use of a boring bar/fly cutter idea, ended up switching to seamless tubing to stop all the faff and cut down on the prep, time is money after all.
this is a slick trick. it's not often you find a truly unique invention that solves an age old problem that is simple in both use and construction. well done sir!
Came here to talk about fireball tools and his videos
Steve Rone ya, I think i prefer his method over having to buy carbide burrs
@@1966cambo that is definitely your prerogative... I find it interesting that you see buying a carbide Burr as more of an issue than buying threaded Rod welding Machining and buying tool steel and having to make a dedicated tool for each size of tubing and weld seam location but that's me and I'm definitely biased towards the seems impossible solution which produces a much cleaner Surface after the weld is removed with less physical effort... Best, Matt
Next Level Carpentry I work with steel and own a very nice welder, thanks!
I have tons of scrap laying around including threaded rod, no different than you using your scrap wood and all the fancy wood working tools you have bought!
Also a piece of tool steel is super cheap but I have that here too lol
@@1966cambo there it is then! 😎
Yeah i dont even worry about that anymore since i found out you can order your tubing to fit
Just had a look at the Greg's Garage site. The $40 basic tool is a snip. The $150 Deluxe kit is excellent.
Such a brilliant idea.
Very cool tool. I built a bipod for my .50 BMG rifle a few years back. This would have made that build much easier! Awesome video!
You're exactly the person we made this video for... hope it helps you out on future projects! Best, Matt
at 2:06 you're still on the intro, you lost me even though I was really interested in this content. NOTE to all youtube creators: shorten your intros. get to the point already!
Note to all CZcams Creators: follow 'ol TJ's advice like he does here and skip the intro completely: czcams.com/video/EjYpI6g7iYo/video.html that way you can get right to the useless video content with out any informative delay and, who knows... maybe you'll get 9 views on your videos too!! 🤨
why not just buy seamless tubing?
Then we wouldn't be seeing this video big brain
I still enjoy your videos and information. I havnt been on much in the last 2 years due to visiting the Hospital and 2 other rehab hospitals but, now I am up and around and trying to run my sawmill and get by. Your always a pleasure and always very informative,,,, IE,,,, paper bags for sanding episode... You and Chip take care ,,,, now its catch up time.
Welcome back, Brad... hope the worst is behind you. Work safely on that sawmill and stay tuned! Best, Matt
For reversing...or cutting the weld seam from the opposite end of the tube, just turn the sleave around to offset the burr to the other side, since the tube is reversed. I love the idea...patent the tool, I see there is a large market with fabricators being everywhere. Nice job.
How to QUICKLY remove internal weld seams from steel tubing...video 39 minutes long.
Well he did say you could skip around.
Using the tool, one CAN quickly remove the seem. Explaining how to make and use (etc.) the tool took 39 minutes.
Crazy how this simple fact needs to be pointed out at all, isn't it Wayne? I guess many viewers expect to learn stuff like this in 60 second TicToc videos or something, right? Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry Keep in mind just how much clickbait is on CZcams. Show then tell, avoid burying the lead. I see this all the time , complaints like that are an issue of product demonstration and understanding, NOT an attention issue. You've solved an incredible problem here that creates a lot of possibilities so it's easy to disbelieve it could be so simple and people are leary of spending a lot of time to find out if they've been tricked or mislead. There is a reason why videos that demo the final product,or technique, at the beginning seem to get higher views,engagement, shares and increased Sales. You can see this on tv build shows too with the optimized cliche: Soft intro > demo > hook to watch the rest of the build > intro.
@@TheNewton I need you to help structure video presentation here! 😁 All that sensible advice simply escapes my carpenter/maker mindset and thought process though so it's hard to relate to viewers who's comments seem only to be impatient and/or ungrateful. Best, Matt
HELLO. Get a freaking flat file. Done........
Hey Diego:
I'll race you; remove the internal weld seam from a 12" long piece of 1 1/4" x 1 1/4" tube. You use your "freaking flat file", I'll use my Seams Impossible tool. Loser pays $1,000 cash... it's your chance prove to us you're not just a putz who makes lame comments on CZcams videos by standing behind what you say. Deal? Right...
I’m excited to see Diego’s video where he builds and demonstrates his flat file rig that fits down the tube farther than the length of the file.
@@twestgard2 I'm excited with anticipation too... but m not going to hold my breath. Because I am an eternal optimist I have set a thousand dollars cash aside for the event🤣😎
Best, Matt
Wow. Did you even watch the video?
@@JTwelder. I'm still waiting for a reply from Diego to schedule that weld seam removal race... but I seriously doubt it will ever happen😏
"Seems" so simple, yet it takes brilliance to Introduce the tech to the world, excellent thinking my friend!
Thanks for sayin'... much appreciated!
Glad you give yourself credit. I saw the same tool in use about a year ago over on Fireball Tool.
You are either misinformed or truth-challenged Darryl... might want to do a bit of fact checking before posting inaccurate, insulting comments.
Your video is on another level actually.... lots of you tubers start with the process then to show the result... you explained the problem the development of finding solutions and finally the logic behind it all.... congratulations for the respect that you will get from everyone
Thanks for your kind words Cap Daday... much appreciated... especially because 'the respect that you will get from everyone' isn't reality for a content producer on CZcams! I often get the feeling many wake up in a foul mood that is only lessened by trolling around making lame, nasty, profane or just plain ignorant comments on any and every video they can find! Crazy world but viewers like yourself offset the rubbish and make it all worthwhile! Best, Matt
Very nice. I recently had to do a 2.5” to 2” sleeve to extend some 2” square tubing legs. I noticed that a commercial product for reducing a 2.5” tow hitch receiver to 2” had almost exact dimensions of my desired final part and already had the welding seam removed, so I bought two of them, drilled a couple of holes, and avoided this headache. :)
However, I am making one of your tools. It’s amazing!!! Thanks for sharing with us.
Great work-around for your previous project Leonid... I think the way makers think is great, finding solutions to get things done despite hurdles and challenges. Hope your Version 1.0 tool makes your next project a little more streamlined though... Best, Matt
I had JUST that problem 2 weeks ago, but build something from a file resting spring loaded on a sled I moved back and forth through the tube. Worked as well, but I like your power tool approach! Awesome!
Desperation is the mother of invention, isn't it? It would be fun to see video of all the things people have tried to remove that weld, wouldn't it? Your method sure isn't the most far-fetched I'm sure! Best, Matt
Have you thought of making a slight angle in the block to get the slight over cut you need for cutting the interior weld. Great idea and video content. I think you have created something very special that will be helpful to so many people.
This is why the world needs geniuses like you. 👍
Best ever metal working solution from a wood worker. 😊👍
Probably best over all tube fab solution since tube notching.
I got mine a few weeks ago now. The groove for the weld is not wide enough for 2.5x2.5 0.25wl. I had to modify the groove and make two stages of slip tubes to cut the weld out. This worked much better than any other method available.
Sorry to hear you had to modify the groove but glad you were able to adapt it to work with the larger tube! Best, Matt
Best way is to post them to Pinterest or Dropbox and add links in a comment here if that works for you?
Excellent job to manufacture a machine for removing internal tubing soldering growths Thank you very much
As a carpenter who is dabbling in metal work, this is an instant subscribe. Wish I'd found your channel sooner. Got me some binge style catching up to do. Great style, well thought out, executed, explained and recorded. What more can any of us ask for.
Welcome aboard Paul... more metalwork to come here at Next Level Carpentry as I'm working on a build series for the custom outfeed roller stands you saw in this video. You'll see them in use on other videos here on the channel. Thanks for watching and subscribing! Best, Matt
i've only recently started looking at fabricating videos. I'm a licensed car mechanic in Ontario, Canada and in the process of getting my heavy duty repair license. Since i'm still very green about this video, i wonder if the seam welds are usually in the the same spot. If they are, you may want to have the burr stick out more so you can build machined caps that cover all 4 corners. this tool looks like a great idea. Hopefully you or your viewers can chime in on whether or not the welds are usually in the same place
Beat you to it, Raymond: czcams.com/video/ozSE7Wrdb1o/video.html 😎
I'm not going to live long enough to be able use all of these great/cool design and build techniques from NLC. This is what makes learning fun. Thanks for another great class.
Glad you like it Rodger... thanks for watching and commenting. BTW I hope to be uploading this week's Patron only video either tonight or tomorrow and hope you find it insightful... Best, Matt
Great video and great solution what I've done in the past is is a cutoff wheel and grind a slot down the middle of the outside of the inter tube. I know technically it will weaken it. But in the past it's got the job done this is so much better though!!
Great concept and design! I dig your sense of humor.
Thanks
Thx Smith Farms... speaking of sense of humor: did you get a chance to watch the "#$%t Welder's Say" video at Greg's Garage Channel? Those boys have a sense of humor!! Best, Matt
Talk about a clever idea! Well done! All based on that slightly offset hole in the wood and the drill extension for the cutter. Also, you whipped it together in a woodshop, not in a metal shop with a mill, and it works so well. Very, very impressive.
Thanks for sayin' Alvin... as they say; necessity is the Mother of invention, right? 😎 Best, Matt
Great video, genius idea too.
And it’s also given me a much greater appreciation of the metric system
thats pretty cool, hope you patented it!!, we also supply similar equipment to tube manufacturers called inside weld bead scarfing. this is used for tube manufacturers who need to remove large amounts of inside weld beads.
Yeah the seams impossible tool is definitely geared towards smaller volume applications. It has a provisional patent but please get in touch with me if you think stocking the tool would benefit your business because I'm sure we could figure out a volume discount to sell units for you to keep in stock.
Best, Matt
Absolutely Brilliant idea. Ive struggled with this issue far too many times
Matt just saw this video and I just ran into this problem this last week ended up cutting a grove on the internal square tube like you showed to get it to work. I wish I had seen your video sooner. I will certainly be looking into this little item for future projects.
I wish I'd seen this video sooner too, Paul! 😉😎 Hope you able to find it useful on future project which you will most likely encounter... Best, Matt
Ordered mine. Watched the live the other night. Great idea that was very timely.
Glad to hear it Chad... if you end up reviewing/using your Seams Impossible tool on your cool Channel feel free to link the video URL to a comment here for other viewers to check out? Thanks for watching, commenting and getting in on the pre-sale! Best, Matt
Next Level Carpentry more than happy to do so.
Genius.❤. Totally doable for a small DIY garage.
That's definitely the whole idea... thanks!
Great useful invention! The video wasn't even over when I started to think about how I can improve upon your design.....
I ordered metal for just this task!
Needed telescopic tubes. I expected to have to mess around machining the “weld”.
I ordered 30mmx30mmx2mm
I also ordered 35mmx35mmx2mm
Low and behold when I picked it up one slid inside the other perfect with about 1mm clearance, no snagging.
Metal supermarket West Bromwich uk 🇬🇧
You just saved me a huge amount of time. I was trying to figure out how to remove the seam from a 2x2 ID x 10' square tube. I was going to use the tool steel cutter method but pulling it through a 10' length is a bit scary. But with your tool and a silly extension I should be able to do this easily. Very cool tool.
I'm curious about what type of project requires you to do that but I'm confident a seams impossible to long will do the job nicely and relatively quickly...
Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry I am building a camping trailer and I have a 14.5' & 17.5' kayaks that go on the roof. There is a lot of boat hanging off the back of a 4'x6' trailer. I want to be able to extend the tongue when the boat is on the trailer and retract it back in when it isn't in use.
I plan on putting the kayaks on top of a alu-cab gen 3.1 roof top tent or something similar. When the tent is open it will tilt the boats down at a sharp angle and I don't want to hit the tow vehicle. So more length is required.
It has to be a bit over built because when it doesn't have the boats on the roof it will be used for off road camping.
@@EthosAtheos Wow. Interesting project! I hope that the tubes are able to slide smoothly enough even with the seam removed because even a little bit of grit or paint on the inner tube can make sliding it tough. A little rust would could also make extending the tongue difficult. Don't want to be a buzzkill though and wish you well with your project and subsequent kayaking/camping adventures! 👊👊😎