Black and British Migration by David Olusoga
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Migration is the most controversial political topic in the Britain of 2018. Issues around migration underpinned and informed much of the BREXIT debate and infuse wider debates about Britishness and identity. Yet migration and the immigrant communities it has created are also the focus of a huge amount of new research, scholarship and awareness. For Britain’s black community expanded knowledge of, and pride in, the longer histories of their communities - histories that stretch back far beyond 1945 - is now at odds with this new mood. History itself is being contested as some nationalist voices seek to dismiss historical fact and counter research with opinion and ‘alternative facts’. Two conflicting and contradictory visions of British history and identity, and the role of migration in forging them, are beginning to develop.
Biography
David Olusoga is an Anglo-Nigerian historian, broadcaster and author. Amongst other work, David presented and produced BAFTA award winning Britain’s Forgotten Slave Owners for the BBC , in collaboration with UCL , and was the winner of the Pen Hessell-Tiltman prize for his most recent book which accompanied the TV series of the same name, Black and British: a Forgotten History.
This talk is part of the Darwin College Lecture Series series.
David Olusogo is from Nigeria but he never mentions the renown 19th century Nigerian slave trader Efunroye Tinubu. Even after the British banned slavery she refused to stop, saying she would sooner drown them. There is a huge statue of her in Nigerian in a square named after her. Yet Olusogo never suggests her statue should be pulled down and the square renamed like he did with our Edward Colston. Olusogo is an inventor of history and a Woke propagandists, he is not a historian.
But he isn't from Nigeria. He was raised by his white mother in England. He saw little of his errant father. His form of worthy sanctimony is distasteful, at its worst, it's an outrage against academia.
Agree with you 100%
My American friend from Texas and I talk about slavery, but I have never held him personally to account for two reasons. One he wasn’t born when slavery was abolished in the US; two, he’s not personally accountable- of course. That’s because Benjamin, yours is a straw man comment. Do you really expect David to condemn every individual involved in the slave trade? Every single one? Really?
And kalm grist, can he only speak about these issues if he’s 100% Nigerian? What about 50%? What if he’s Ghanaian? Or Zimbabwean?
Just admit you have no genuine interest in what he has to say, no willingness to engage with the debate, therefore attack him on his heritage.
Finally, I’m 100% Nigerian, British born and against slavery. I’ve never heard of Efunroye Tinubu, but I know that Africans were involved in slavery long before the Europeans turned up. So do I get a say???
@@tjmunros Okay so you're Nigerian, not British.
@@Baboonfromdatoon no, I get to self-define myself and I am Nigerian and British. Thank you.
I don't worry about Britain. But I do worry about the future of humanity when this nonsense is peddled by fools.
How many times can you say "acknowledge". You are one of 6 billion with varied opinions. Your truth is yours alone. Acknowledge that!
Yes but that form of subjectivity you advocate is not exactly the best propagandist device
Such bile hatred wrapped up as academic enlightenment. What a naughty boy. Nobody will dare to call him out, because he fits a convenient niche. To warp the truth to fit ones own narrative is to tell a lie!
And that niche has become mainstream. He can therefore spout his fictional gibberish with impunity
Instead of abusing and accusing try dialogue kalm grist. It’s far more positive.
If you hate Britain, the indigenous people, their attitudes and culture, you are more than welcome to leave. Not that there is any chance of that as long as you can get paid for spreading lies about the native people where you would be arrested anywhere else in the world.
You’re not oppressed, you’re entitled.
Spot on
Which native peoples are you talking about? And what’s he going to get arrested for? For free speech?
@@tjmunros What part did you not understand? YES, In the majority of the world you CAN be arrested, and in the majority of those places actually executed for free speech, especially for disparaging the native people / culture / religion in these countries. If you don't believe me you are welcome to try.
Here in the UK, and also in America, lying about and insulting the people / culture / religion is actively encouraged.
@@Jones_to_Bear oh I did understand, just not sure who are the indigenous British people of whom you speak?
@@Jones_to_Bear I presume you also include countries such as Australia, Canada, France, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Spain, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy etc? Oh and New Zealand? And Japan? Have I missed any?
This guy plays fast and loose with the truth.
the real ''forgotten'' slave owners, in America for example were other black people---they even were the first to own black slaves and also Indian tribes(Cherokee)really loved to own black slaves---then of course---returning ex-slaves to Liberia---why don't you talk about them---your supposed to be a historian---not recreate history as you imagne it---do the research and stop lying.
Well, I suppose you have sources for your "facts" which would prove him a liar..... ??
Or are you REALLY just full of tish...!
A corrupt colonial structure would not allow for any administration to emerge, but that which serves its own interests. Rome had it's Herod, just as the west still destabilizes those governments it dislikes.
@@MaxMisterC Anthony Johnson. 17th century Angolan slave owner in North America. Try searching Cherokee slave owners.
@@MaxMisterC - Wijsen took the time replying to you, what have you got to say? Or are you REALLY just full of tish?
@@jimthompson9370
He found one black man.. 😆
And against the background of every white man South of Kentucky...
& The poor bugga, probably had to watch his back, as his neighbours were probably trying to sell him too!
.. But you wanna try being a smarmy, wise-ass little sh!t. Eh?
If you disagree, you are part of the persecution squad. It's a nice little ruse that.
Salty Brits unable to handle the truth... smh...
Stop talking about this fake narrative, slavery was in every corner of life and I wonder why brits are always talking about Africa? How about the European slavery,the Asian , the Arabian etc etc.
Because we Brits were the first to industrialise slavery on a previously unknown level. We shipped slaves further and in quantities only equated to the Nazi holocaust. That’s not fake, if it was, why was it abolished? Why did the US fight a bitter four year civil war with over 750,000 deaths?
Marxist revisionism.
What does that even mean?
Go read a book or two and find out for yourself. This guy clearly hasn't.
@@tuckwatsellers It means Olusogo is rewriting history to frame it in a kinder socialist light. In other words he is making up a fictional history in order to promote the black victim, white oppressor narrative that apparently undergirds all this naughty, evil western capitalism.
Even the introduction is incoherent nonsense.
In a country where there are over 60 million people from diverse backgrounds who conclude hundreds of millions of happy, mutually satisfactory interpersonal transactions every day, some in business, some in friendship and many out of romantic love , I don't recognise your Britain. David I ask an honest question, where is better? Your 'scholarship ' is aimed as a weapon at the country itself. Japanese people exist, they are in the majority in Japan and want it to stay the way it is. I won't make a list of peoples who feel the same but why is it racist for British people, or more specifically English ones to have the same desire? There weren't many non-White people in the UK until very recently, everyone knows it, and their arrival has not been an obvious
improvement of what was here before. That's your ego. I don't think you ,personally, are making things better.
Oops, the “everyone knows it” argument. As usual backed up by scientific evidence and research, dated from an expert… or maybe not.
@@tjmunros According to the 1951 Census, Britain at that time was 98.7% White British, so yeah pretty recently I guess.
well said david .. respect
What a shocking, bitter narrative. I understand why he gets a platform, it's in the interest of having freedom of speach unlike him who would like to cancel anyone who holds different views. However, a lot of what he says is twisted and politically pointed rather than looking for and teaching facts. So sad, divisive and dangerous for a harmonious society.
Difficult to properly engage with someone such as you who is incoherent.
What do you think his politics are btw?
And when and where does he make any reference to cancelling people? That’s you making stuff up.
Freedom of speach 🤣🤣
Liar
Pretty much the most accurate summation one can make of all this
What i find difficult to understand is that some people think this race grifter is telling the truth
Was going to watch but knew it would be agenda pushing balls, plus after 3mins i couldn't take it anymore.
sound very poor during the cambridge uni part
Hi there David Olousoga. I’ve read your book about black & British history today, and I’ve been thoughtful enough to find out how black people were suffering for four hundred years especially in America, and Caribbean sugar plantations. The Windrush generations are still facing discrimination, and many of whom have been forced to leave the UK, And why did it happen after so many more years?
This guy writes some dodgy books and seriously bends the truth to his own agenda.
Absolutely great recount of historical events and their very real modern influences.
@Scott Johnston why can’t these people just let the races be?
This guy makes his living from the race industry. Not that he has a race himself. Not black, not British. A half cast with a UK passport.
Not so much a recount of historical events, more like a complete reinventing of historical events.
No white text?
An excellent and scholarly argument, delivered with empathy for all ethnicities and cultures
Do not confuse ethnicity and nationality
No white text?
Olusoga has been repeatedly debunked by Simon Webb among other people. He talks of 'Africans' being in Britain with the Romans which is disingenuous at best. The Africans in Britain with the Romans were north Africans, so a completely different ethnicity to black Africans, in other words not sub Saharan Africans which is what he is trying to deceive people was the case. Also the again disingenuous claim that Britain has always been multi ethnic just because a handful of different ethnicities people passed through hundreds or thousands of years ago. What a fraud.
P.s Black Africans doesn’t exist! We are just Africans.
So why is David not credible but Simon Webb is?
@@louisaaugustine9839 Olusoga repeatedly demonises Britain for our part in the West African slave trade but never mentions his own country Nigeria's large part in the same slave trade. The Benin Empire (modern day Nigeria), with people like Efonroye Tinubu, played a huge part in the West African slave trade and without these many Africans involved the whole slave trade would not have been possible, yet fraudulent 'historians' like David Alusoga will never utter these huge aspects of this abhorrent part of history because it undermines their whole agenda which is to attack, demonise and destabilise the west, especially the UK and US. Read up on the involvement of the Benin, Ashanti, Tippu Tip and Efonroye Tinubu and many other Africans in slavery for a balanced perspective, this was not solely a crime committed by whites on blacks, but with the whole hearted assistance of Africans capturing, brutalising and selling their own kind. And trust me there is so much more I could write about the one sided manipulations people like Olusoga peddle. I'd be interested to hear your response. Thanks
David Olusogo is from Nigeria but he never mentions the renown 19th century Nigerian slave trader Efunroye Tinubu. Even after the British banned slavery she refused to stop, saying she would sooner drown them. There is a huge statue of her in Nigerian in a square named after her. Yet Olusogo never suggests her statue should be pulled down and the square renamed like he did with our Edward Colston. Olusogo is an inventor of history and a Woke propagandists, he is not a historian.