Years ago, we had a mandatory 30 minute safety meeting every Saturday morning. Everyone showed up and no one complained ...... until someone in management figured out, due to the Union contract, everyone attending whose safety meetings were required to be paid double time for a minimum of four hours. Those safety meetings came to an abrupt halt.
I'm the guy the unions vets hate, I will not for any circumstances come in on my day off no matter how much you're willing to pay me or how much notice I get. I will never come in on my day off.
Had a union job like that where it was 4 hrs pay if you came in. During the summer we had to record temps on our big storage tanks every day including weekends. People would happily volunteer to come in for a 30 min job. Once the company decided that if they had to pay for 4 hours we would have to work 4 hours, suddenly no one wanted to come in.
My security company required me to do a six hour online driving course, unpaid on MY time off. I politely reminded them that they hired someone with eight years of military defensive driving training and two years of commercial trucking and I do NOT work for free. It's been three months and I haven't heard a word about it since.
"if I can do my job in 30 minutes, it's because I spent the last 10+ years learning how to do my job that quickly. You pay for the years, not the minutes".
They tried something similar with me. Except it was for armed security and they hired me off of a firing range. I told them to check my refs and get back to me if they wanted to try and pull that nonsense. Fuckin salary office workers. Never done a damn ounce of real anything, and think they know better than anyone else.
This has happened to me a few times... I was once Voluntold to attend a "Mandatory Meeting" on my day off. I asked if I was getting overtime for that and they said No it's "Mandatory". Then I said No and I won't come in if I'm not getting paid for it, 5 minutes later the rest of the Employees heard about my disagreement and they all joined in and said No as well (The Result was "Mandatory Paid Meetings")
Federal Law states you have to be paid for a meeting you are forced to attend(same with mandatory work parties), if you dont then that is wage theft and can win big money in court. Most companies rely on ignorance of your rights to get away with this, also unless you are salary(or one of the few overtime exempt jobs) any time over 40 hours is supposed to be charged at OT rate (which in most states is 1.5 but it can be higher)
@@ztmackin this is why my old company did meetings and work parties during work hours to count as part of work time.. might also have been part of why we were constantly behind schedule including no overtime and no pushbacks even for emergencies that shut down the entire operation for days at a time.
Pick a day during the week. Everyone shows up, mandatory, paid meeting prior to shift start. Done. Ain't nobody who works with his hands and tears his body up every day coming in on one of his precious days off. Or, rather, nobody with any dignity or self respect.
Piss on that, your stupid meeting starts after my start time and after I punched in 😅 I'm not coming in early so some pencil jockey can tell me how to do my job safely when they've never even done it 🤷♂️
Our company is basically like this right now. Management still tries to act like they can dictate what we do, but they are so desperate for workers, they can't afford to fire anyone currently on staff. Let's just say there's been a lot of rule breaking going on, with little to no repercussions. 😂
Lol my old company is still firing for minor infractions, and still not hiring anyone. Hell when they fired me who performed multiple critical roles they still haven't hired anyone. I would imagine what kind of hell was raised but frankly don't give a shit.
@@Slowpoke3x i have seen/worked several companies die this way. totally deserve it to. the people who worked there for 30 years only for to many people quitting to run it didnt deserve it for sure but the owners doing that sure did! also have seen some companies do very well after the old ones shut down or went bankrupt
@@Slowpoke3x they fired one of, if not the most, important person at the business (you). They didn't think of you when they fired you. If the company goes to shit because of their poor management, that's on them.
Something fun! The boss or the safety guy doesn't decide when it's OT. The law and your contract decides when you get OT. I had a boss pull this crap, I let him get away with it for a few weeks before wage&hour lit his ass up.
I worked at a bridge fabrication company (D 1.5 certs) We had a 10 min safty meeting every morning and a 30 min one at the end of the the day on Fridays. The safety man acted almost exactly like this one and he couldn't get through a single meeting without saying the word 'complacent' haha 😆
Safety Man: We're gonna call you in to a mandatory safety meeting on saturday, your day off, and will not be paid extra for giving up your free time! And if you don't like it, we can just fire you without giving you any kind of "professional 2 week notice" like we would demand of you. Also Safety Man: We've got no one to replace the workers that quit/got fired. [sigh] Nobody wants to work anymore.... Internet: And why do you suppose that might be?
2 week notice? Who the fuck gives a legit 2 week notice. Especially nowadays with jobs all over the place. 2 week notice please what the fuck you think this is Europe? They are the only countries that can make you work as long as it takes to find someone to do your job. Two week notice 😂 seriously your leaving a job for another one and your actually going to give a fuck and work like you normally would? I did that 2 week notice crap once I made everyone's life so miserable they begged me just to go away. Other times just straight up quit day of job because of company bullshit. When you take a new job amd they check your work references that's one of the things they can't say about your job. They can only say yes you worked there, confirm your salary or wage, and to verify your actually who you say you are and are qualified. At no time can your former employer ask about your separation from said employer that's privileged information between the company and the worker. And the comapny does not want to get hit with a defamation lawsuit because that's what can happen if you reveal things like that. Just so ya know. 2 week notice
@@japetro3 Uh........that isn't true at all, every company I have worked for has asked the rehire-able question and if they can back it up with paperwork/evidence they can say whatever the fk they want about you. There is no privileged information if you put them down on a resume, only stipulation is the information has to be true. That is why most companies ask/answer the rehire-able question, because its a yes or no factual statement with nothing for a lawyer to grasp onto.
Everybody pays one guy on the team like 10 bucks to show up and run the meeting off of his cell phone for the others. Now everyone can attend the safety meeting as required but the others get to stay home.
Way to throw your boys under the bus. Theres a bigger picture over just the 8 hrs on the day off... its keeping these corporate bean counters in check. One guy still gives them power they dont need.
This isn’t only for construction workers, I’m oil fields and this is extremely accurate. Nobody pays attention to safety meetings except the safety person. Because 99.9% of the time it’s the same shit over and over again. 5 simple things to remember on site #1 if you look busy, you are busy. #2 get shit done. #3 nicotine and coffee are the only things keeping everyone from throwing hands. #4 returning fire is just as important as sending fire. #5 try not to die, it just means we’re going to be on site even longer.
Ya love how we do osha retraining on the weekend for free,when right on the card it clearly says this card does not expire,but somehow every three years here we go again or loose your job!!
Years ago , I managed an auto parts store and my company required me to hold a store meeting once a month and it had to last for one hour . It could not be held during store hours so we held them on Sunday mornings at 8:00 . It was a mandatory meeting so employees were paid for one hour and one day during the week they went home one hour early to prevent paying overtime . Imagine trying to do that today .
@@victormendoza871 Actually I think It's a two part problem you got the first part the second part is the constant need to get higher profits which drives bosses to think it's ok to work their employees into the grave by not hiring for positions they should and heaping it onto those who are there so you end up with a bunch of overworked people who couldn't find a fuck to give.
I mean... I'd make a point to add coffee donuts, and ******** Ahem, I mean breakfast. You can bribe people into being much less pissed off....sometimes
@@victormendoza871 I just want to point out, they did not accept the job with them being told at the beginning these meetings were going to take place, they were told after the fact. That's not laziness nor not wanting to do what they are being paid for. That is called, not wanting to do something they were not told they had to do and the company trying to bribe them with money to do it. If you don't tell someone they have to do something beforehand, don't get upset when they say no when you throw it at them. That's like going to your family's house to hang out and then being told you HAVE to babysit the kids, but it's fine cause they will pay you 10 bucks
2 months on a pipeline job we hit OT either late wednesday or early thursday every week. Last week of the job was 6 14-hour days to get the job done, and on the last day someone took off with the company truck that had everyone's lunches in it and didn't come back until home time. I really hope someone beat his ass for that.
It's so true. I work in a production shop building pressure vessels and as a code welder we can get away with murder cause there is nobody to replace us. Why is so many jobs available?
A company I used to work for always had them at 6am on a Tuesday, once a month (for insurance purposes.) It was always 45 minutes of one or 2 supervisors crying about something. We did get paid though
Glad Michigan has an over 40 law. Any time spent over 40 is guaranteed at least time and a half and im not entering the building on a Saturday unless im on the clock homeboy
Reminds me of a factory that tried to make everyone work overtime on the first weekend of Deer Season. They theeatened to let people go. 75% of the plant said they were not going to show up, and they didn't. No one got fired or even a note on their record.
sh!+, if it's not double time, not showing up. I worked for a company that had Mandatory Saturday training, double time wasn't enough, they threw in breakfast and lunch and somehow we managed to clear our schedule.
@@captainnoob4 it depended on how often the updated our system. We also got paid for attending self help seminars, and 3 days of self care in a beautiful hotel.
I work in a shipyard building some real fancy boats, between 30-60 folks there most days, but every group gets split up and has a meeting with their sorta group leader (employee owned company so no “bosses” anymore). Keeps everyone clued in to what works getting done and where, as well as potential hazards associated with said work. Never worked a building/home construction job, and I’m sure it’s got its differences, given most days I get to work inside the whole way through, but it seems like a easy enough system, just takes an extra 20 minutes from your morning, and means you gotta be on time lol
i work for a gov't contracted shipyard.... one thing i love about our union is that they can't force anything on us that's not paid, or in our regular hours of operation.
Nope...meeting is held on company time not the employees. I'll show up at start time on the dot if you wanna play that...fire me, I was looking for a job when I found this one
Our safety meetings involve me telling my operators the hazards of tracking by myself or other welders in the ditch in full rabbit. Rocks WILL be airborne and will enter the cab windows open or not.
I'd tell Safety Man that either he shells out for the overtime out of his own pocket for everyone he's requiring to come, or he can tell management why the labor board is hanging out by the front gate asking why ppl aren't getting paid correctly.
This, I worked for a company that said we had to go to the main office, 4 hrs away, and do mandatory forklift training. So my head driver and I, warehouse manager, went to the training. my driver was already on OT and we had to drive a rental box truck there. I was salary so I was atleast hoping for my time spent. we got 70 bucks and it was a 12 hr day for both of us. I was irate and the owner came in our branch that following week and got a ear full. ohh just a note the guys that worked at the main office got paid the same and they only stayed for 4 hrs
My company gets it, safety meetings are after start time, and they're always short sweet and to the point. Even when we did TDG training it was on a weekday during work hours. It was just scheduled in days prior so the work was adjusted around it
I'm a sheet metal worker, local 36 out of St Louis. I had a safety guy pick up a piece of off-fall from a tap I cut into the duct and tell me, "this is pretty sharp..." I looked at him and waited, instead of saying "no shit". He went and told my general he wants all of us to wear Kevlar arm sleeves while we work from now on. He probably wrote a report to his boss, you know, so it wouldn't look like he just stands around with his hands in his pockets all day while the rest of us get the work done.
A few years ago I worked for an AG trucking outfit in NWKS that tried that. Said it was "MANDATORY", and if you didn't show up you weren't driving. It was funny when they had 12 empty trucks that following Monday afternoon. Keep in mind we were pushing 90+ hr weeks on comic books. We stayed at the lake for an extended fishing weekend. Didn't take long for the head honcho to get involved. We were back in our trucks that Friday without going to a meeting, got paid for the missed loads, and within 2 weeks Dispatch, and the truck push, got relocated to a different branch in Iowa. Still a bunch of us still quit within the month, and the few of us owner ops put on with their competitor.
Dang Safety Man, why didn't you call the big guy.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ricky is a freakin awesome BOSS. Come Wednesday afternoon, Boss Man is in his truck his movies.🤣🤣🤣
I do the exact same thing when I am told on a Wednesday or Thursday that there is a "Mandatory" safety meeting on. Saturday and there will be FREE breakfast... Whatever it is I will learn it next week, hell it is usually stuff that is either common sense or the EXACT same stuff they covered last safety meeting and the one before that
If you want me at a meeting on MY day off I'm a need double pay, it better not go over 3 hrs, amazing food and a free pass to be grumpy at work for the next week for not being able recoup from work drama. These terms are negotiable if adult beverages are provided.
I'll be honest, I worked construction for a year when I was younger, and it was absolute backbreaking work in the harshest of climates. After that year, I chose a different career path. The pay was great, but I just wasn't up to the job. Construction workers will always have my utmost respect.
Soo, my current arrangement with work is I have some assigned days and get the shifts people call out on (happens a lot and I make a killing) that I'm not guaranteed hrs on; they are essentially days off. On top of that, I'm a contractor, which means they can't treat me like a regular employee. That out of the way. Wrote my boss and said not to worry about finding me work for the days I'm off, that I would be out. 5 years at this company and not one sick day, vacation, or missed shift. Came in snow storms when no one else could make it and so on. Anyway, this guy straight up writes me back saying I need to give advanced notice when asking off and couldn't approve the absence. Which I very politely reminded him that the days not guaranteed to be paid days during the week were days already off and I wasn't asking for my time off. Apologized for the misunderstanding and didn't hear from him again. The level of entitlement with employers across the board is mind boggling. I don't understand it.
Mandatory means scheduled and paid, Saturday is the last day of the week, so anytime over 40 is overtime. In my early 20's I had a foreman tear into me about being on time, I start when the pay starts, he was positive that on time is 10 minutes early. See they concocted this scheme where employees load the trucks for the day on their own time and unload at the end of the day on company time. I never agreed to any of it, it was just company practice as far as I knew. The resolution ended up being that the company needed me more than I needed them, and they chose accordingly. I've never been paid enough for that kind of dedication. Years later that same foreman started his own roofing company and begged me to work for him. I did and he never expected me a minute early. You want me there at 6:20, then tell me 6:20, don't tell me 6:30 then pitch a fit when I start at exactly 6:30, even if I'm present at 6:20 I'll stand there sipping my coffee and watch you work for free. My kids were both in highschool band and their band director lived by the motto that "on time is 10 minutes early" I argued with him about it many times. Once going to a football game 50 miles from home my wife and I were running late, 15 miles from home we passed the band bus. The wife and I entered the stadium just after the national anthem. I had a field day with him after they arrived halfway through the 2nd quarter. My son was on the football team and said the team got there at a normal time. My daughter was in the marching band and said they left the school according to the band directors schedule... And my ass was there exactly on time.
Yeap had this happen on drillingbrig ..2 weeks on 2 weeks off and mandatory safety meeting for 4 of those days off !!! Straight pay and no bonus ....plus travel over 300 miles to home office ! Yeap ....got my ass run off but was back to work same day I applied ...thank God for good experience 🙏
How cute the safety man actually thinkin like he has some sort of power, man we HAD one of those until he figured out the guy running A shovel had more pull than him fired his ass real quick.
There was a mandatory meeting at a place worked that wanted me to show back up to work after 4 hours of being off, kicker was it was only for a hour. I showed up with a pissed off racoon in a live trap. Never was asked to show back up for those meetings again and still managed to have a job, don’t know how but ok.
Our last safety meeting was about getting the proper amount of sleep. Keep in mind we had to wake up early and be to work early to hear this lecture about getting more sleep.
State law here says that you hold a mandatory meeting it counts as hours worked, if the meeting takes place out side of regular hours it has to be paid as a minimum of one hour.
At this point, these sketches should be regarded as essential learning material for anyone looking for a career in construction.
Only non union though.
@@chrisfrank6625 What would be the difference if it was unionized? 😂 This shit's the same at the factory I work at and it's unionized.
@@SendRoses I'm talking about trade unions.
Heck, the stuff around overtime and weekends and such should be learning material for anyone managing.... anyone.
Tell em Ricky 😂😂😂
Years ago, we had a mandatory 30 minute safety meeting every Saturday morning. Everyone showed up and no one complained ...... until someone in management figured out, due to the Union contract, everyone attending whose safety meetings were required to be paid double time for a minimum of four hours. Those safety meetings came to an abrupt halt.
I'm the guy the unions vets hate, I will not for any circumstances come in on my day off no matter how much you're willing to pay me or how much notice I get. I will never come in on my day off.
@@kylegamer48 I dunno man 4 hours DT for maybe 1.5 hours out of my day. But I definitely wouldn't come in for free
Had a union job like that where it was 4 hrs pay if you came in. During the summer we had to record temps on our big storage tanks every day including weekends. People would happily volunteer to come in for a 30 min job. Once the company decided that if they had to pay for 4 hours we would have to work 4 hours, suddenly no one wanted to come in.
What kinda cracked out company runs a safety meeting for 30 minutes on a Saturday morning
@@myleshoward2721 4 hours of DT? fuck yeah I'd still show up.
If it’s a company requirement then it can be done on company time. Not mine.
Aww how cute. The safety man thinks he has authority 🤭
Safety man has authority, just hard to respect the authority
🤣LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
@@hunterlee4412 If you have to tell people that you're in charge... you ain't in charge.
Honor is given. Respect is earned.
@@freeagent8891 Honor is preexisting it can be given away, but never taken. Just a thought.
I was really hoping the safety guy would have called boss man’s bluff and called the owner, only to have Ricky’s phone ring again
funny
Same. That'd be epic
I forgot about that. Funny asf
That's was exactly what I was waiting for also.
If that happened safety man would’ve lost his mind and probably had to be put in a safe space lol
My security company required me to do a six hour online driving course, unpaid on MY time off. I politely reminded them that they hired someone with eight years of military defensive driving training and two years of commercial trucking and I do NOT work for free. It's been three months and I haven't heard a word about it since.
"if I can do my job in 30 minutes, it's because I spent the last 10+ years learning how to do my job that quickly. You pay for the years, not the minutes".
@@dragonman910 Very well put. I'm quitting a security job at the end of January because my company doesn't understand that.
They tried something similar with me. Except it was for armed security and they hired me off of a firing range. I told them to check my refs and get back to me if they wanted to try and pull that nonsense. Fuckin salary office workers. Never done a damn ounce of real anything, and think they know better than anyone else.
This has happened to me a few times... I was once Voluntold to attend a "Mandatory Meeting" on my day off. I asked if I was getting overtime for that and they said No it's "Mandatory". Then I said No and I won't come in if I'm not getting paid for it, 5 minutes later the rest of the Employees heard about my disagreement and they all joined in and said No as well (The Result was "Mandatory Paid Meetings")
Federal Law states you have to be paid for a meeting you are forced to attend(same with mandatory work parties), if you dont then that is wage theft and can win big money in court. Most companies rely on ignorance of your rights to get away with this, also unless you are salary(or one of the few overtime exempt jobs) any time over 40 hours is supposed to be charged at OT rate (which in most states is 1.5 but it can be higher)
@@ztmackin this is why my old company did meetings and work parties during work hours to count as part of work time.. might also have been part of why we were constantly behind schedule including no overtime and no pushbacks even for emergencies that shut down the entire operation for days at a time.
Ok
Pick a day during the week. Everyone shows up, mandatory, paid meeting prior to shift start. Done.
Ain't nobody who works with his hands and tears his body up every day coming in on one of his precious days off. Or, rather, nobody with any dignity or self respect.
I resemble that remark! And your right, fuck the boss on Saturdays😂
ABSOFUKINLUTELY!
Not just that we don’t even pick up the damn phone
Piss on that, your stupid meeting starts after my start time and after I punched in 😅 I'm not coming in early so some pencil jockey can tell me how to do my job safely when they've never even done it 🤷♂️
I would've told him "I HAVE TO GO SEE THE EYE DR. CAUSE I CANT SEE MY ASS COMING IN ON STRAIGHT TIME"....😂😂😂😂
KEEP IT UP BROTHER
nah nah nah. gotta play it right. tell 'em you got anal glaucoma. 🤣
I've pulled that card so many times. "I'm sure there's a line of clowns willing to work this mill for minimum wage ain't there?"
Our company is basically like this right now. Management still tries to act like they can dictate what we do, but they are so desperate for workers, they can't afford to fire anyone currently on staff. Let's just say there's been a lot of rule breaking going on, with little to no repercussions. 😂
Lol my old company is still firing for minor infractions, and still not hiring anyone. Hell when they fired me who performed multiple critical roles they still haven't hired anyone. I would imagine what kind of hell was raised but frankly don't give a shit.
@@Slowpoke3x i have seen/worked several companies die this way. totally deserve it to. the people who worked there for 30 years only for to many people quitting to run it didnt deserve it for sure but the owners doing that sure did! also have seen some companies do very well after the old ones shut down or went bankrupt
@@Slowpoke3x they fired one of, if not the most, important person at the business (you). They didn't think of you when they fired you. If the company goes to shit because of their poor management, that's on them.
“ You can’t stand for it? Well I guess you better sit the fu#k down then!” 😂
Had two jobs do "Not Mandatory" mandatory stuff.
Both times was "Its not mandatory, so I'm not going" then the argument started.
Something fun! The boss or the safety guy doesn't decide when it's OT. The law and your contract decides when you get OT. I had a boss pull this crap, I let him get away with it for a few weeks before wage&hour lit his ass up.
I worked at a bridge fabrication company (D 1.5 certs) We had a 10 min safty meeting every morning and a 30 min one at the end of the the day on Fridays. The safety man acted almost exactly like this one and he couldn't get through a single meeting without saying the word 'complacent' haha 😆
Did he like to "touch base" alot too? Lol
Safety Man: We're gonna call you in to a mandatory safety meeting on saturday, your day off, and will not be paid extra for giving up your free time! And if you don't like it, we can just fire you without giving you any kind of "professional 2 week notice" like we would demand of you.
Also Safety Man: We've got no one to replace the workers that quit/got fired. [sigh] Nobody wants to work anymore....
Internet: And why do you suppose that might be?
2 week notice? Who the fuck gives a legit 2 week notice. Especially nowadays with jobs all over the place. 2 week notice please what the fuck you think this is Europe? They are the only countries that can make you work as long as it takes to find someone to do your job. Two week notice 😂 seriously your leaving a job for another one and your actually going to give a fuck and work like you normally would? I did that 2 week notice crap once I made everyone's life so miserable they begged me just to go away. Other times just straight up quit day of job because of company bullshit. When you take a new job amd they check your work references that's one of the things they can't say about your job. They can only say yes you worked there, confirm your salary or wage, and to verify your actually who you say you are and are qualified. At no time can your former employer ask about your separation from said employer that's privileged information between the company and the worker. And the comapny does not want to get hit with a defamation lawsuit because that's what can happen if you reveal things like that. Just so ya know. 2 week notice
@@japetro3 Uh........that isn't true at all, every company I have worked for has asked the rehire-able question and if they can back it up with paperwork/evidence they can say whatever the fk they want about you. There is no privileged information if you put them down on a resume, only stipulation is the information has to be true. That is why most companies ask/answer the rehire-able question, because its a yes or no factual statement with nothing for a lawyer to grasp onto.
Everybody pays one guy on the team like 10 bucks to show up and run the meeting off of his cell phone for the others. Now everyone can attend the safety meeting as required but the others get to stay home.
Even from home, if it isn't OT I'm not there on a Saturday.
@@wysestone unless they give you two days off during the week as your weekend and Saturday and Sunday are normal scheduled days.
If I'm not getting paid enough to show up. Why the fuck would I pay someone else to be there for me???
Way to throw your boys under the bus. Theres a bigger picture over just the 8 hrs on the day off... its keeping these corporate bean counters in check. One guy still gives them power they dont need.
I kinda expected Ricky to show up drunk with a beer in his hand 😂
On Monday
This isn’t only for construction workers, I’m oil fields and this is extremely accurate. Nobody pays attention to safety meetings except the safety person. Because 99.9% of the time it’s the same shit over and over again. 5 simple things to remember on site #1 if you look busy, you are busy. #2 get shit done. #3 nicotine and coffee are the only things keeping everyone from throwing hands. #4 returning fire is just as important as sending fire. #5 try not to die, it just means we’re going to be on site even longer.
*Stares at "oil fields" and #4 on the list*
Do.. do you work in a war zone?
@@calanon534 well a verbal war zone yes
Ya love how we do osha retraining on the weekend for free,when right on the card it clearly says this card does not expire,but somehow every three years here we go again or loose your job!!
Years ago , I managed an auto parts store and my company required me to hold a store meeting once a month and it had to last for one hour . It could not be held during store hours so we held them on Sunday mornings at 8:00 . It was a mandatory meeting so employees were paid for one hour and one day during the week they went home one hour early to prevent paying overtime . Imagine trying to do that today .
Its totally possible the probelm is we live in a country of lazy people who do what they want . Not what they are paid for.
Sounds like an improvement. Thank you for giving the example of where we as a society seen the areas needing development.
@@victormendoza871 Actually I think It's a two part problem you got the first part the second part is the constant need to get higher profits which drives bosses to think it's ok to work their employees into the grave by not hiring for positions they should and heaping it onto those who are there so you end up with a bunch of overworked people who couldn't find a fuck to give.
I mean... I'd make a point to add coffee donuts, and ******** Ahem, I mean breakfast. You can bribe people into being much less pissed off....sometimes
@@victormendoza871 I just want to point out, they did not accept the job with them being told at the beginning these meetings were going to take place, they were told after the fact. That's not laziness nor not wanting to do what they are being paid for. That is called, not wanting to do something they were not told they had to do and the company trying to bribe them with money to do it. If you don't tell someone they have to do something beforehand, don't get upset when they say no when you throw it at them. That's like going to your family's house to hang out and then being told you HAVE to babysit the kids, but it's fine cause they will pay you 10 bucks
I am watching this in traffic due to construction. I see this happening right now
Hitting OT Wednesday after lunch brings back horrible memories
2 months on a pipeline job we hit OT either late wednesday or early thursday every week. Last week of the job was 6 14-hour days to get the job done, and on the last day someone took off with the company truck that had everyone's lunches in it and didn't come back until home time. I really hope someone beat his ass for that.
It's so true. I work in a production shop building pressure vessels and as a code welder we can get away with murder cause there is nobody to replace us. Why is so many jobs available?
one word. COVID. everyone figured out how to mooch off the hard workin mf'ers.
That vessel stamp is worth its weight in gold!
because everybody is going to 4 year college to get shit useless degrees and then working at starbucks for the rest of their lives.
A company I used to work for always had them at 6am on a Tuesday, once a month (for insurance purposes.) It was always 45 minutes of one or 2 supervisors crying about something. We did get paid though
This vert thing happened to me and my guy's a month ago, i got the head boss on speaker phone and he called the safety guy a fuckin idiot😅
Straight up vibes at my work also. Basically the motto is "what they guna do.... fire me???" Bahahaha 🤣
Almost a Johnny Paycheck moment. Take This Job and Shove it.
Glad Michigan has an over 40 law. Any time spent over 40 is guaranteed at least time and a half and im not entering the building on a Saturday unless im on the clock homeboy
Reminds me of a factory that tried to make everyone work overtime on the first weekend of Deer Season. They theeatened to let people go. 75% of the plant said they were not going to show up, and they didn't. No one got fired or even a note on their record.
sh!+, if it's not double time, not showing up. I worked for a company that had Mandatory Saturday training, double time wasn't enough, they threw in breakfast and lunch and somehow we managed to clear our schedule.
How often did they have Saturday training?
@@captainnoob4 it depended on how often the updated our system. We also got paid for attending self help seminars, and 3 days of self care in a beautiful hotel.
The good thing about these videos is that they can be applied to so many situations in so many jobs in the US these days
I work in a shipyard building some real fancy boats, between 30-60 folks there most days, but every group gets split up and has a meeting with their sorta group leader (employee owned company so no “bosses” anymore). Keeps everyone clued in to what works getting done and where, as well as potential hazards associated with said work.
Never worked a building/home construction job, and I’m sure it’s got its differences, given most days I get to work inside the whole way through, but it seems like a easy enough system, just takes an extra 20 minutes from your morning, and means you gotta be on time lol
I...i get employee owned but no hierarchy?
i work for a gov't contracted shipyard.... one thing i love about our union is that they can't force anything on us that's not paid, or in our regular hours of operation.
Nope...meeting is held on company time not the employees. I'll show up at start time on the dot if you wanna play that...fire me, I was looking for a job when I found this one
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Love all your content. Keep up the work. Boss man pulled the safety man card and safety man folded.
"Well I guess you better sit the fuck down".... I love this channel.
Our safety meetings involve me telling my operators the hazards of tracking by myself or other welders in the ditch in full rabbit. Rocks WILL be airborne and will enter the cab windows open or not.
I'd tell Safety Man that either he shells out for the overtime out of his own pocket for everyone he's requiring to come, or he can tell management why the labor board is hanging out by the front gate asking why ppl aren't getting paid correctly.
This, I worked for a company that said we had to go to the main office, 4 hrs away, and do mandatory forklift training. So my head driver and I, warehouse manager, went to the training. my driver was already on OT and we had to drive a rental box truck there. I was salary so I was atleast hoping for my time spent. we got 70 bucks and it was a 12 hr day for both of us. I was irate and the owner came in our branch that following week and got a ear full. ohh just a note the guys that worked at the main office got paid the same and they only stayed for 4 hrs
I love these videos... Keep up the good work my dude. Shit makes me laugh every time I watch em!
NOPE! No OT on the weekend, no worky!
I used to work for a company and they never held those on the weekends because the boss’s never came in so they held them on the job site lol 😂
DUDE! you are one funnyass individual 😁. please keep making this funny content. be safe
Safety Guy cracks me up, exactly how they are!
You never disappoint this was funny as hell
Light up the Ricky and the Boss sign. Keep up the great videos. I enjoy the laughs.
My company gets it, safety meetings are after start time, and they're always short sweet and to the point. Even when we did TDG training it was on a weekday during work hours. It was just scheduled in days prior so the work was adjusted around it
Dude I love your videos is so fuckin true every job site an crew has this dynamic good job
There is so much truth in these videos. This just makes the hell we go thru funny
I'm a sheet metal worker, local 36 out of St Louis. I had a safety guy pick up a piece of off-fall from a tap I cut into the duct and tell me, "this is pretty sharp..." I looked at him and waited, instead of saying "no shit". He went and told my general he wants all of us to wear Kevlar arm sleeves while we work from now on. He probably wrote a report to his boss, you know, so it wouldn't look like he just stands around with his hands in his pockets all day while the rest of us get the work done.
You should’ve said only when I use the tin snips, but the nibbler leaves it nice a dull 😂
Nice Miller helmet. Have a blue and red machine, but I do love my Lincoln helmet. Crystal clear weld beads through that hood.
'You better sit the fuck down'. That sent me.
I’m not coming in for straight time so sit down and listen
A few years ago I worked for an AG trucking outfit in NWKS that tried that. Said it was "MANDATORY", and if you didn't show up you weren't driving. It was funny when they had 12 empty trucks that following Monday afternoon. Keep in mind we were pushing 90+ hr weeks on comic books. We stayed at the lake for an extended fishing weekend. Didn't take long for the head honcho to get involved. We were back in our trucks that Friday without going to a meeting, got paid for the missed loads, and within 2 weeks Dispatch, and the truck push, got relocated to a different branch in Iowa. Still a bunch of us still quit within the month, and the few of us owner ops put on with their competitor.
Dang Safety Man, why didn't you call the big guy.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ricky is a freakin awesome BOSS. Come Wednesday afternoon, Boss Man is in his truck his movies.🤣🤣🤣
That is literally every safety man on every job site. 😂
Dude ime from South Africa also in construction love your content you funny af
look @ him grow and prosper, it's lovely
“Well I guess you better sit the f@ck down…” I’m gonna use that now 😂😂😂😂
I do the exact same thing when I am told on a Wednesday or Thursday that there is a "Mandatory" safety meeting on. Saturday and there will be FREE breakfast... Whatever it is I will learn it next week, hell it is usually stuff that is either common sense or the EXACT same stuff they covered last safety meeting and the one before that
These always brighten my day
If you want me at a meeting on MY day off I'm a need double pay, it better not go over 3 hrs, amazing food and a free pass to be grumpy at work for the next week for not being able recoup from work drama.
These terms are negotiable if adult beverages are provided.
I thought the safety man finally found his balls 🤣🤣🤣 guess not....
Good job with the video. You impressed me enough to subscribe.
I'll be honest, I worked construction for a year when I was younger, and it was absolute backbreaking work in the harshest of climates. After that year, I chose a different career path. The pay was great, but I just wasn't up to the job. Construction workers will always have my utmost respect.
Keep up the great work ! I enjoy the videos
I feel like straight time would be illegal if everyone is already over 80 hours for a two week pay period.
From my experience most of these jobs pay per week. However, you are correct.
Soo, my current arrangement with work is I have some assigned days and get the shifts people call out on (happens a lot and I make a killing) that I'm not guaranteed hrs on; they are essentially days off. On top of that, I'm a contractor, which means they can't treat me like a regular employee.
That out of the way. Wrote my boss and said not to worry about finding me work for the days I'm off, that I would be out. 5 years at this company and not one sick day, vacation, or missed shift. Came in snow storms when no one else could make it and so on. Anyway, this guy straight up writes me back saying I need to give advanced notice when asking off and couldn't approve the absence. Which I very politely reminded him that the days not guaranteed to be paid days during the week were days already off and I wasn't asking for my time off. Apologized for the misunderstanding and didn't hear from him again.
The level of entitlement with employers across the board is mind boggling. I don't understand it.
If an employee doesn't agree to a mandate, a company CANNOT force said employee into anything...
that's not entirely true, the company can force that employee into unemployment...
Mandatory means scheduled and paid, Saturday is the last day of the week, so anytime over 40 is overtime.
In my early 20's I had a foreman tear into me about being on time, I start when the pay starts, he was positive that on time is 10 minutes early. See they concocted this scheme where employees load the trucks for the day on their own time and unload at the end of the day on company time. I never agreed to any of it, it was just company practice as far as I knew. The resolution ended up being that the company needed me more than I needed them, and they chose accordingly. I've never been paid enough for that kind of dedication.
Years later that same foreman started his own roofing company and begged me to work for him. I did and he never expected me a minute early. You want me there at 6:20, then tell me 6:20, don't tell me 6:30 then pitch a fit when I start at exactly 6:30, even if I'm present at 6:20 I'll stand there sipping my coffee and watch you work for free.
My kids were both in highschool band and their band director lived by the motto that "on time is 10 minutes early" I argued with him about it many times. Once going to a football game 50 miles from home my wife and I were running late, 15 miles from home we passed the band bus. The wife and I entered the stadium just after the national anthem.
I had a field day with him after they arrived halfway through the 2nd quarter. My son was on the football team and said the team got there at a normal time. My daughter was in the marching band and said they left the school according to the band directors schedule... And my ass was there exactly on time.
Big facts!!
No one wants to work anymore... shame really
Yeap had this happen on drillingbrig ..2 weeks on 2 weeks off and mandatory safety meeting for 4 of those days off !!! Straight pay and no bonus ....plus travel over 300 miles to home office ! Yeap ....got my ass run off but was back to work same day I applied ...thank God for good experience 🙏
BOOM NATION! Ricky's got me trained
How cute the safety man actually thinkin like he has some sort of power, man we HAD one of those until he figured out the guy running A shovel had more pull than him fired his ass real quick.
You know there are some benefits to the labor shortage I have noticed we've got treated better at work
There was a mandatory meeting at a place worked that wanted me to show back up to work after 4 hours of being off, kicker was it was only for a hour. I showed up with a pissed off racoon in a live trap. Never was asked to show back up for those meetings again and still managed to have a job, don’t know how but ok.
Haha super hilarious 🤣 very true talk though
I didn’t like this channel at first, but it grew on me quick. If I worked with Ricky… that place would never be the same again.
Lol nothing like a safety meeting we have ours every Thursday.
Yall bring back good memories
You are not lying.. no one wants to work anymore.. and, those of us that are, are definitely under appreciated
Plot safety man calls the BOSS and Ricky's phone starts ringing
there actually is one of those he already made
@@Mr101600 I know that I've seen the video
Don't threaten me with a good time I will go home and drink beer 🤣🤣😎💯
It's called time management, which is on the boss man! Got 5 days to do that!
Guys, this has happened to be in my corporate jobs too. You don’t owe your employer anything. Refuse to show up.
Will just remember then it will be mandatory on Monday....😂 😂
yes.we can do this on a scheduled work day, or I'm sick and can't make it.
Hey there Mr safety man.
TAKE YOUR STRAIT TIME AND SHOVE IT.
I'm thankful every day for being represented by the IBEW.
Man I do commercial hvac and that sounds just like our up tight safety guy
I care about my until Wednesday after lunch when overtime kicks in 😆
Funny how shit can change when they try to make an ultimatum and you push back lol
That shat cracked me up,🌄let me have it Ricky
Nice ending man!
Our last safety meeting was about getting the proper amount of sleep. Keep in mind we had to wake up early and be to work early to hear this lecture about getting more sleep.
State law here says that you hold a mandatory meeting it counts as hours worked, if the meeting takes place out side of regular hours it has to be paid as a minimum of one hour.
Ya gotta know when to fold them Safety Man.
Well if no one shows up…and safety man fires everyone then he can meet with himself😂😂😂😂😂
Best episode yet
Hey this one was a good one I like when you get all the guys together it sure is funny keep up the great work
Hell it's tough to get me to start caring on over time.