As someone who works construction, I can for vouch for that. In many many places I've worked the worst thing you could do is secure yourself to the ceiling. I'd much rather take the 5 foot fall instead of taking that same fall with a couple hundred pounds of lumber and steel coming down with me. Keep up the great work man, your content is some of the best on CZcams.
@William Hall do you want the job to get done, or do you want me to go home? Around my parts it's 6ft, but a harness isn't going to help at all with a 6ft fall
@@xxpitchkingxx5372 you’re not wrong, I’m installing blood processing in a Tyson facility and it’s stupid with how they are with “safety” they have enough rules to save their ass.
I had this exact same saftey person who told our 6'2 200 something pound guy to get a harness and secure himself, its all concrete floors with a load limits per section of sq ft. Plus where the f are we to secure a line to. So we asked the saftey guy how to safely do our jobs with the saftey guidelines set out for everyone. He couldnt say a word and told us that our problem and for us to come up with 1. We see an electrician in a harness with his rope tied around a concrete pillar thats on the ground. We did the same and got in shit. Told the saftey guy what about the other guy. Saftey guy said nothing and wrote us a warning. By the end of the week with very little done and the site is asking why we aren't up to schedule. We all pointed at the saftey guy, and handed in all the write ups and warnings we got. Next week new saftey officer took over with an actual brain
Fun story: about 4 years ago, I was working a job building new dorms for an Indian casino out here in CA. Large general contractor running the job. I show up and they do the safety brief, at which time we're told that whenever you are 6 feet off the ground, you need to be tied off. Ok, kind of stupid, but not a huge deal. Then the safety lady goes on to reiterate: any time your head is more than 6 feet off the ground, you need to be tied off. "Excuse me, Miss Safety Officer, but where do you want me to tie off? Because I'm 6'5", and I don't want to get a safety violation on my first day just walking around." Yeah, they changed that policy real quick.
@@ldobehardcore it's about nyour FEET being off the ground, the only time your head is supposed to be ON the ground is when you've collapsed and hit your head on the pavement ;)
Been there Ricky. Safety man wants you to wear your harness with a six foot lanyard anytime that you are 4 feet off the floor. Makes since to nobody ever.
@@johnnydough8924 they banned yo-yos on a lot of jobs I've been on so you don't have a choice. Just safety guy being safety guy trying to justify his existence once again.
Yoyos I've used have 8ft of slack before you stop. Tie one off 6ft off the ground like my safety guy told me.........you'll beat a hole in the ground before it even deploys
What most people don't understand is that the 4 foot rule requires a harness to be tied off to a structure RATED for 10 times the rating of the harnessed person. Rated, as in scale certified load bearing I-beam for a dolly mounted hoist.
So if Im doing something like working in a T-Bar drywall ceiling where harnessing off is not an option cause 1. T-bar aint holding my ass up, and 2. I have no other place to tie off that is acceptable, what course of action should I take?
@@Mr.Sparks.173 iirc you're required to have a person below stabilizing the ladder. Or more stable equipment, like a portable staircase, or a scissor jack lift if you have it.
@@madmanwithaplan1826 good god, at my current site that would be an absolute nightmare. The site is a 6 floor multi residential building, the elevator is still in several crates on the first floor. There is no crane access for floors 2 to 5 so the staircase and scissor lift is out of the question. Not to mention they would be an absolute pain to navigate and store in the 6 foot wide hallway, and impossible to get into each suite of the building. Our crew consists of 3 people, counting myself and the boss, so having one person holding a ladder all day is not exactly feasible, though technically possible. The ceilings are 8 foot ceilings, steel stud + drywall. Definitely not structurally sound enough to use as an anchor point. Besides we cant be putting holes in the drywall at this stage of the project. Being a sparky, I practically live on the ladder. I'll grab the other guy to stabilize the ladder if I have to do something like reach over a few feet while up on a 12 foot ladder or something. Something where tipping the ladder is something that can happen easily and the resulting fall would be severe. But when up on a 8 foot in wedged up in an access hatch? Nah, I couldnt tip the ladder even if I wanted to. Thank god our safety guy is more or less for show on this site. He basically only bothers you if you're getting into some real sketchy shit (like when a plumbing apprentice was attempting to light a torch next to the site's propane tanks) and he just makes comments like "the safety glasses work better on your face than on your shirt" when he catches you without PPE.
I had a job once, required safety harnesses. Our lead out was 8 ft before you were suspended from the harness. I was working between 6ft and 7ft, harness lead got wrapped around scaffolding and ladder, I went to turn around and give myself some slack and harness tipped ladder, ladder pulled me off of scaffolding I land face first spread eagle on floor than was dragged by ladder,(since it tumbled and rolled) to be suspended about 6in above floor, with harness leads wrapped around the ladder and part of scaffolding. While I waited for rescue. I still hate everytime they tell me OSHA requires me to wear one, unless I'm above 8ft....
All the stupid aside, there are the spools with instant stop but you know them are expensive. The actual reason companies enforce this is knee replacements, it got to a point where workmen comp was paying a significant amount on blown out knees. To me thats the cost of doing business, 1-6 foot off the ground is a terrible distance and hard to make "safe". Im a huge huge safety person but shit happens
the worst is when you're working at seven feet but the nearest building steel to tie off to is at about 20. so you have get a big ladder, which hopefully you can complete your task off otherwise you would have swap ladders twice, climb to the top of said ladder risking greater injury should you fall from that height, then climb half way down the ladder, complete your task in 5 minutes then reverse said procedure. This is what happens when you ban lawn darts. I get most of us got into construction because we just had to find out what those paint chips tasted like as kids, but all those other kids that nature and a 4 ounce piece of sharpened brass would have taken out, went on to get useless occupational safety degrees and OSHA 500 cards to torment us and add 30% to the labor cost of jobs.
I worked several years in the industrial trades until safety got really stupid. But your videos are awesome and always got me laughing there's always a Ricky on every job site and a Rosco not to mention you nailed it on every safety man. Hope to see you in Houston.
There's a place in Texas I used to pick up pre-fab steel at, their whole setup was you securing your trailer while wearing a shoddy safety harness they provided. Granted the load can be high and slippery, but more often than not the load was greasy in places and covered in plastic so falls could happen. Main bad thing is that you were often alone in barn/warehouse with the possibility of being stuck in the air if you fell. They had to add security cameras after one big fella slipped and hung by his harness, too heavy as the thing cut off his circulation leading to death. Safety gear isn't always the safest bet.
harness hang syndrome will take out people of any size given enough time, and it's not even as much time as you might think. 15 minutes will do it for someone heavy, 30 to 45 will take out most people.
We had a guy fall off of a furnace in our place some years ago, and for that, they started with those harnesses and cables. I put one on once. That thing was more dangerous than it was safe.
Fall arrest harnesses do have their places to be used, but those places also have to be supervised. Hanging around in the air for an extended period of time is just as dangerous as that sudden stop on the ground. I was on top of a rail car with a 6 foot lanyard looking down into a tanker that recently had crude oil in it. I was tied off, so I was fine, but I would still be dangling 4 feet inside the car.
I worked cable for two years. This video speaks to my heart with what I experienced concerning OSHA and climbing poles. Different boat, same lake. I love your content, my dude. More power to ya. Much love
the 4ft harness rule makes no sense I have been a on few jobs with that rule. the best part is explaining that their provided lanyards are not adequate for 4ft as they stretch that far when they deploy and that we needed very expensive retractables they never brought it up again
"Me going to lunch does not give you license to do illegal stuff" I mean, if a tree falls in the wood and there's no safety man to report it, did it fall?
@@FallenRingbearer Nahp, we was all over there 'n the.. industrial sludgemaker, yups. No idea whys the dingie over here 'sploded. None of us was anowhere near it. 'N it was turned off lasts I saw.. unless maybe night shift lied to us.. Dunno boss, we were never sent over there..
@@FallenRingbearer Shames the cameras weren't workin' over there neither, maybe ifs someone fixed it whens it were reported 2 months ago we'd know hows it happened? aw well..
It's amazing how much safety regulations have changed so fast. I was bucket truck certified in an old truck with no outriggers and no bucket stabilizer. That thing swayed, swung, and bounced like an amusement park ride. No harness. Instructor said go all the way up, go all the way out, go all the way around, and saddle the bucket. Most SCARED I've been my entire life. Before I saddled the bucket, I got it just off the ground and tried to flip the bucket. I couldn't, but did rock it to about a 45 degree angle. Then saddled it. He was FURIOUS! I said If I can flip it on the ground, I can flip it in the air. He passed me thankfully. And thankfully newer trucks have multiple stabilizers.
former charger lineman, we didnt get any kind of harness for the longest time when i working there lol, an we usually worked 28 - 32 feet in the air almost
@@jeffjr84 you aren't kidding. Harness, ground deployment tool, rubber blanket, and all my tools doesn't leave me alot of room up there anymore. Plus all the rules now.
Hear me out! Okay Safety man where would you like me to tie off to? Safety man: Well first you have to install this expensive bracket. Should only take you 15 minutes. Ricky: So I'm allowed to install the bracket without a harness. Safety man: Yes Ricky: Let me get this straight, you want me unharnessed for 15 minutes to install a bracket that I need to tie off to in order to drill a hole that takes 5 minutes. Safety man: Now you're getting it Ricky and by the way when you're done uninstall that bracket; like I said, it's expensive. Ricky: You got it Safety man. I'm going to be unharnessed for 30 minutes in order to drill a (harnessed) hole that takes 5 minutes. Rrr sometimes Safety man. 🎯 🤣👍 LOL! 😂🤣
I spent 41 years working construction an ammonia refrigeration. Love your stuff. 6'lanyard on a 4' ladder. Yep been there. Ran a small turret crane building out an engine room for 2 weeks safety guy asked for my operators card, handed him my driver's license. He turned some cool colors
Same here, worked with polar refrigeration out of Norman Park ga. 90% of what we did was Ag related so safety was minimal, but every once in a while we would have to suit up and follow the "RULES" when at processing plants for bagging greens, Pico de galo ect. That 10% of the time was the dumbest shit ever. I remember we were called saying there was a small anhydrous leak in processing line one, but it wasn't to bad because the crew could stand it, that they were in it now cleaning. I show up and they Inside Cleaning with chlorine........ needless to say them mfers were getting sick left and right🤣🤣🤣, anyways I suited up and found the leak in a stainless "union" leading into a set of chill plates. And then explained to them what safety obviously didn't, DO NOT CLEAN WITH CHLORINE IF ITS VERIFIED YOU HAVE A ANHYDROUS LEAK!
As a HVAC technician in Industrial and Commercial, I can honestly say that safety rules are in place when it's convenient. I can't begin to count the number of times safety was ignored, overlooked, violated to someone's AC back on. I believe in some safety, but this culture of all the safety is bullshit.
People always look at you stupid when you say that you believe in safety but can be a hazard. -Your gonna work with a 150F liquid -put on shoulder length liquid proof gloves, half face respirator, dense cotton short in case you get splashed, and a yellow Tyvek suit. -LOTO take 30 min each way, process take 35 min, and you have 40min from shut off to start up. -105F weather, on a black tarmac. Cant be out there for more than 15min at a time before your required to leave, take 10, and get some water. It take another 10min to get all your gear back on because you can wear it in the break room due to the chemical being poisonous. Break any of these rules and your fired, but dont meet the deadline and your fired. Oh and we cant get you help because 'reasons'. Oh and if you cause a major spill were not responsible, you are. Dont fuck up. *and no im not exaggerating anything here.
@@Magavynhigara Sounds like someone isn't unionized. Your personal safety takes precedent over the job. It's an unsafe environment. Too bad you seem not to have a right to refuse. If you were unionized, you'd be much better able to refuse to work until it's safe for you.
My two favorite channels, Breadstick Ricky & The Boss and AwakenWithJP - both are hilarious!!! Ricky and the Boss for pure amusement, JP... funny and depressing at the same time. I'm very thankful for both.
Saw the flyer at the end for a meet and greet in Houston... our entire plant and especially all of us maintenance guys love you videos where I work! Try to find your way up to Knoxville Tennessee and I know you'd have all of us and a good turnout!
This is hilarious. I had a safety guy question why I didn't have a latter tied off even though there was nowhere to tie it off too. Then he asked me what I was working on and when I told him the AC he didn't say a word and just kept walking.
I've recently been introduced to Ricky and the boss..... 😂😂😂😂🙏🏻. Thank Jesus for construction sight humor.... I'm a fan of the entire crew 🤷🏼♂️😂😂😂. I've been in all positions to some extent 🍻 obviously so have you. I appreciate the entertainment when I'm on the bosses dime 🙏🏻😂😂😂😂😂😂
FYI. Under OSHA the ladder IS your fall protection. No need to tie off. Funny video as usual. Retired Construction Safety Engineer here. If your safety guy is telling you to tie off on a portable ladder? He or she is trying to kill you. 😀
@@tammycarpenter7364 Fall protection/arrest systems are required on FIXED ladders greater than 24'. OSHA 1926.1053. Never tie off on a portable ladder. What would a person tie off to, and how would a person know if the tie off point will hold a 200lb worker?
I've never heard of wearing a safety harness on a step before. I've worked in construction 7 Years and havey OSHA 30. Never mentioned. Love you vids ☺️
@@RicanHavoc89 Somebody needs to tell this to installation companies, I worked for a cable contractor and we had to prove we could handle a 40' ladder on our own and ran solo.
You're correct. OSHA never requires a harness with portable ladders. This is a misconception that comes from people taking quotes from the section on elevated work platforms out of context.
Loving the videos, as always it's a good laugh! And ya... Safety man can go pound salt!! Lol I saw golf clubs in the background... when is the company golf outing ?!!! Bet Ricky would have fun with that!!
I've worked at the same place for 20 years and was there when we went through the transition to get more safety minded(large machine shop). I remember when they wanted us to be safe but some of the stuff we did was inherently unsafe and you couldn't do anything about it like deburring parts and finishes in certain areas you just HAVE to put your hands on while it's still in the machine spinning. I told them once I wouldn't do it because it was unsafe. Of course I was just screwing with them for getting on to me about something else safety related.... That's the part that sucks about safety, not everything can be made 100% safe. Accidents happen. I've actually seen safety blind people to dangers because "this area is supposed to be free of dangers!" There's no such thing. It was when we put yellow taped walkways on the floor. Nothing was supposed to be in the walkway so people wouldn't trip. Well a guy assumed there was nothing in the way and didn't look where he was walking and tripped on the corner of a pallet that was just barely over the yellow line. After that at safety meeting I always remind everyone of this and that nothing is made 100% safe. It's up to you to watch what you do and what's going on around you. You can't assume anything.
I hated having to put a harness on at my last job, the rule was if we dig a hole 6ft or deeper we need a harness.. it was fine when it was a giant gaping sandy hole but they wanted us to harness up for EVERY hole over 6ft, so even if it was only 6 inches wide we'd get in trouble for not wearing a harness 😡
Right there with you, the AC in my office went out last week during a hot spell and as soon as the boss came into the office he had the AC guy in house getting it fixed 😂
Recently had a discussion about harness safety with my own safety man. According to procedures, you're suppose to tie of roughly 17' from the air if you're 4' up. I asked how that was possible if I'm not suppose to be up high without tying off. Hopefully I'll get my answer after my 2 week suspension is up.
According to OSHA you are allowed to go as high up on a ladder as you want if the purpose is to tie off. I just had a big issue on a site I’m working on about this and found that out lol.
Which does not solve the other problem - Often when you are using tall ladders, there is nothing up there to tie your harness to. You absolutely can not tie yourself to ladder. You can not tie yourself to the lets say lights that you are working on there because they can not hold your weight. And if it is in cramped/inacessible space, you can not use lifting platform (if you even have one in first place.). Official answer is that in these cases you are required to build scaffolding. Even if the job is just to change lightbulb and it would take you 30 seconds tops, according to rules you need to bring all the pieces of scaffolding there, have someone certified for building scaffoldings to be present and put it together under his directions. Test it and then use it. And then of course dismantle it and put it back. Next time I will see someone do that, it will be first time
What is important is to be sure the lanyard is shorter than the distance to the floor. Just saying. This really is Rickey's fault and he screwed up big time. Sometimes it seems like he is the new guy. He didn't have a safety man look out posted. I mean ground man. Yea yea that's the ticket a ground man.
That's not an OSHA rule. OSHA never requires the use of a harness when using a portable ladder. The four foot rule is about when fall protection is required while working on on an elevated platform or walkway and it only applies to general industry. The height is increased to six feet for construction. A guardrail counts as fall protection. This is a startlingly common misconception and the false belief that OSHA is requiring something so silly as a harness on a portable ladder is a big contributor to people shutting down their brains and failing to even attempt to learn and understand safety regulations.
I don't think safety people actually read or follow the guidelines of OSHA. They are trying to justify their position, so they come up with anything they can think of that sounds "safer" even though they have no real world field experience. I did fire sprinklers in a Conagra plant that required us to be tied off anytime on a ladder. Safety can make up whatever rules they deem fit. They had some dumb story where someone fell off backwards and landed on their head and died. But really it sounded like a bunch of bullsh1t and circle jerking from the safety team.
This shits so funny happened the other day we had a black out for our outage for a few days I get back the AC broke that shit got fixed quick when all the old guys started talking shit lol great skit man😂😂😂
Safety man having crayons on his desk is fitting for someone tasked with enforcing a rule requiring being tied off with a 6' lanyard when working 4' off the ground.
I have been in that situation, and was wondering if ricky was going to get the same results that I got, but it went in a different direction, dang it. Awesome.
When time is running short and something needs to be done really quick. I tell you what, some of the more asinine safety rules get overlooked really quick.
I’m in Ricky’s boat-why the heck do I need to have a harness on when I’m on any rung higher than 4 feet? That’s like wiping before you poop--it just doesn’t make sense!
But you have to wipe before you poop or you could risk it not being clean enough for the poop to come out! Thats gonna be a write up! I swear to god the safety people have write up quotas.
The ac part reminded me of when I worked for Pete's carstar. Office was 67F and the shop was 115F. was told if you don't like the heat work harder and faster so you can leave on time. Did that for 6 years.
We all know that the overzealous safety rules will take a back seat to productivity every time. I've been a millwright/ mechanic/ welder/ electrician for over 20 years in a couple of large corporations. Just remember the creed: We the willing, do the impossible for the ungrateful, and have been doing the impossible for so long with so little that we can now do anything with nothing.
So true. You can not even "legally" get in the cab of a truck without a harness. More bureaucratic b.s. for some putz in an office that needs to feel important.
Ricky needs to run for President in 2024. This country could use him, they just don't know it yet. He's a lot smarter than the past and current trying to run this country 😁
"if it makes you feel better I thought you were going to lunch so that's why I'm doing it now" Thats right Ricky. what the boss don't know can't hurt him.
Can confirm, air conditioning in the American South and Southwest are absolutely vital for survival and people will have no problem fudging the rules if it means not having to deal with 90+ degree heat for months on end.
Boss- "How did that job get done so fast?"
Crew- "Mostly OSHA violations."
if that aint the truth
The other way works too
Boss- whats taking so long to get this job done
Crew-OSHA showed up
@@jacobgarrett2361 OSHA is how workers stay alive
@@DeathnoteBB And how per day jobs=a very nice paycheck
We traded the new apprentice away for all the new tools and gear. He can make do with the broken stuff. This shop is kind of 'cliquey'.
Ricky having taco bell for lunch is a safety violation in and of itself.
You got that right!!
i can’t lie my boss hates me for eating taco bell bc we work in the heat🤣but that 5 dolla box
That's why taco bell doesn't have a ball pit!
So is the lack of safety glasses whilst drilling above your head. Sawdust be dropping right into those purdy blues (or browns for most of ya).
@@militarybrat9734 green
Most company’s I’ve worked for use the 4’ rule to make sure we had less of a chance of breaking the 6’ osha rule
OSHA usually leaves residential guys alone
i worked for a company 20+ years ago that tried to implement a 3 foot rule; it didn't work LOL.
Bet money your face smacks the ground before that bungy cord breaks you fall
Thanks for the clarification broski.F*** OSHA!!
@@joesmoth2610 Nahh, most of their inspe are on residential.
As someone who works construction, I can for vouch for that. In many many places I've worked the worst thing you could do is secure yourself to the ceiling. I'd much rather take the 5 foot fall instead of taking that same fall with a couple hundred pounds of lumber and steel coming down with me. Keep up the great work man, your content is some of the best on CZcams.
Try working maintenance at a Tyson facility!
Under OSHA's fall protection clause, anything you anchor fall protection to has to have a load compacity of 5,000 lbs.
@William Hall do you want the job to get done, or do you want me to go home? Around my parts it's 6ft, but a harness isn't going to help at all with a 6ft fall
@@xxpitchkingxx5372 you’re not wrong, I’m installing blood processing in a Tyson facility and it’s stupid with how they are with “safety” they have enough rules to save their ass.
I had this exact same saftey person who told our 6'2 200 something pound guy to get a harness and secure himself, its all concrete floors with a load limits per section of sq ft. Plus where the f are we to secure a line to. So we asked the saftey guy how to safely do our jobs with the saftey guidelines set out for everyone. He couldnt say a word and told us that our problem and for us to come up with 1. We see an electrician in a harness with his rope tied around a concrete pillar thats on the ground. We did the same and got in shit. Told the saftey guy what about the other guy. Saftey guy said nothing and wrote us a warning. By the end of the week with very little done and the site is asking why we aren't up to schedule. We all pointed at the saftey guy, and handed in all the write ups and warnings we got. Next week new saftey officer took over with an actual brain
Safety man missed the fact that Ricky was drilling without safety glasses on .
I wonder if Ricky lost them... again.😏
I tell them I have safety contacts…by the time they figure that out I’m done
So much for powers of observations
Nah he had his fancy squinty glasses on... I use that same pair all the time
This will be part 2
Fun story: about 4 years ago, I was working a job building new dorms for an Indian casino out here in CA. Large general contractor running the job. I show up and they do the safety brief, at which time we're told that whenever you are 6 feet off the ground, you need to be tied off. Ok, kind of stupid, but not a huge deal. Then the safety lady goes on to reiterate: any time your head is more than 6 feet off the ground, you need to be tied off.
"Excuse me, Miss Safety Officer, but where do you want me to tie off? Because I'm 6'5", and I don't want to get a safety violation on my first day just walking around."
Yeah, they changed that policy real quick.
Ladders cause cancer in CA.
It's supposed to be feet off the ground... I also often meet safety people that don't understand that
@@UmaROMC if he's 6'5" his head is more than 6 feet off the ground my dude.
@@ldobehardcore it's about nyour FEET being off the ground, the only time your head is supposed to be ON the ground is when you've collapsed and hit your head on the pavement ;)
@@UmaROMC are you trolling?
“Me being gone does not open the door to OSHA violations”
Actually that’s precisely what that means
"I thought this was about the missing skid steer"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been there Ricky. Safety man wants you to wear your harness with a six foot lanyard anytime that you are 4 feet off the floor. Makes since to nobody ever.
You supposed to use a yo-yo harness
@@johnnydough8924 they banned yo-yos on a lot of jobs I've been on so you don't have a choice. Just safety guy being safety guy trying to justify his existence once again.
@@texasforever7887 why’d they ban them?
Yoyos I've used have 8ft of slack before you stop. Tie one off 6ft off the ground like my safety guy told me.........you'll beat a hole in the ground before it even deploys
What most people don't understand is that the 4 foot rule requires a harness to be tied off to a structure RATED for 10 times the rating of the harnessed person. Rated, as in scale certified load bearing I-beam for a dolly mounted hoist.
So if Im doing something like working in a T-Bar drywall ceiling where harnessing off is not an option cause 1. T-bar aint holding my ass up, and 2. I have no other place to tie off that is acceptable, what course of action should I take?
Who gave the safety man a CZcams account?
@@Mr.Sparks.173 , construction harness height requirement is differebt than regular industrial harness height.
@@Mr.Sparks.173 iirc you're required to have a person below stabilizing the ladder. Or more stable equipment, like a portable staircase, or a scissor jack lift if you have it.
@@madmanwithaplan1826 good god, at my current site that would be an absolute nightmare.
The site is a 6 floor multi residential building, the elevator is still in several crates on the first floor. There is no crane access for floors 2 to 5 so the staircase and scissor lift is out of the question. Not to mention they would be an absolute pain to navigate and store in the 6 foot wide hallway, and impossible to get into each suite of the building.
Our crew consists of 3 people, counting myself and the boss, so having one person holding a ladder all day is not exactly feasible, though technically possible.
The ceilings are 8 foot ceilings, steel stud + drywall. Definitely not structurally sound enough to use as an anchor point. Besides we cant be putting holes in the drywall at this stage of the project.
Being a sparky, I practically live on the ladder. I'll grab the other guy to stabilize the ladder if I have to do something like reach over a few feet while up on a 12 foot ladder or something. Something where tipping the ladder is something that can happen easily and the resulting fall would be severe. But when up on a 8 foot in wedged up in an access hatch? Nah, I couldnt tip the ladder even if I wanted to.
Thank god our safety guy is more or less for show on this site. He basically only bothers you if you're getting into some real sketchy shit (like when a plumbing apprentice was attempting to light a torch next to the site's propane tanks) and he just makes comments like "the safety glasses work better on your face than on your shirt" when he catches you without PPE.
I like how he's stopped whenever he actually tries to do work
Bro I used to hate those harness rules. Makes sense when I'm 100' in the air not on the FOURTH RUNG LOL
I had a job once, required safety harnesses. Our lead out was 8 ft before you were suspended from the harness. I was working between 6ft and 7ft, harness lead got wrapped around scaffolding and ladder, I went to turn around and give myself some slack and harness tipped ladder, ladder pulled me off of scaffolding I land face first spread eagle on floor than was dragged by ladder,(since it tumbled and rolled) to be suspended about 6in above floor, with harness leads wrapped around the ladder and part of scaffolding. While I waited for rescue. I still hate everytime they tell me OSHA requires me to wear one, unless I'm above 8ft....
That's some loony toons stuff right there, hope you didn't break anything. OSHA seems to cause more harm then good sometimes.
Damn bud. Hopefully nobody saw. But im sure everyone did
All the stupid aside, there are the spools with instant stop but you know them are expensive. The actual reason companies enforce this is knee replacements, it got to a point where workmen comp was paying a significant amount on blown out knees. To me thats the cost of doing business, 1-6 foot off the ground is a terrible distance and hard to make "safe". Im a huge huge safety person but shit happens
They are giving you the wrong climbing gear there is gear for ladder safety
the worst is when you're working at seven feet but the nearest building steel to tie off to is at about 20. so you have get a big ladder, which hopefully you can complete your task off otherwise you would have swap ladders twice, climb to the top of said ladder risking greater injury should you fall from that height, then climb half way down the ladder, complete your task in 5 minutes then reverse said procedure.
This is what happens when you ban lawn darts. I get most of us got into construction because we just had to find out what those paint chips tasted like as kids, but all those other kids that nature and a 4 ounce piece of sharpened brass would have taken out, went on to get useless occupational safety degrees and OSHA 500 cards to torment us and add 30% to the labor cost of jobs.
I worked several years in the industrial trades until safety got really stupid. But your videos are awesome and always got me laughing there's always a Ricky on every job site and a Rosco not to mention you nailed it on every safety man. Hope to see you in Houston.
Amen to that my boy
you got out of construction because of safety? sheesh
@@jackwillis1731 Wonder if he tried oil companies lol.
I left the industrial field to get into the trucking industry
There's a place in Texas I used to pick up pre-fab steel at, their whole setup was you securing your trailer while wearing a shoddy safety harness they provided. Granted the load can be high and slippery, but more often than not the load was greasy in places and covered in plastic so falls could happen. Main bad thing is that you were often alone in barn/warehouse with the possibility of being stuck in the air if you fell. They had to add security cameras after one big fella slipped and hung by his harness, too heavy as the thing cut off his circulation leading to death. Safety gear isn't always the safest bet.
I think I remember that place too. Always had to go there in the summer. Damn, Prime's fleet management was stupid sometimes.
harness hang syndrome will take out people of any size given enough time, and it's not even as much time as you might think. 15 minutes will do it for someone heavy, 30 to 45 will take out most people.
We had a guy fall off of a furnace in our place some years ago, and for that, they started with those harnesses and cables. I put one on once. That thing was more dangerous than it was safe.
Reminds me of the stories I've heard of seatbelts beheading people or trapping them in a burning vehicle during an accident.
Fall arrest harnesses do have their places to be used, but those places also have to be supervised. Hanging around in the air for an extended period of time is just as dangerous as that sudden stop on the ground. I was on top of a rail car with a 6 foot lanyard looking down into a tanker that recently had crude oil in it. I was tied off, so I was fine, but I would still be dangling 4 feet inside the car.
I worked cable for two years. This video speaks to my heart with what I experienced concerning OSHA and climbing poles. Different boat, same lake. I love your content, my dude. More power to ya. Much love
I am so glad the safety guy has priorities. I was beginning to wonder.
Ricky has lost another pair of safety glasses lol
That was the first thing I noticed 🤣
Back to the Tool Crib!! LOL. How did you lose your safety glasses?
In an excavator fire….😂
@@tbthedozer 😆 🤣 😂
the 4ft harness rule makes no sense I have been a on few jobs with that rule. the best part is explaining that their provided lanyards are not adequate for 4ft as they stretch that far when they deploy and that we needed very expensive retractables they never brought it up again
Safety man is my favorite, when he interacts with Ricky 🤣 btw Ricky is definitely not responsible for the fire, that's the word on the street now lol
"Me going to lunch does not give you license to do illegal stuff"
I mean, if a tree falls in the wood and there's no safety man to report it, did it fall?
Nah, just magically turned into pieces lol.
@@FallenRingbearer Nahp, we was all over there 'n the.. industrial sludgemaker, yups. No idea whys the dingie over here 'sploded. None of us was anowhere near it. 'N it was turned off lasts I saw.. unless maybe night shift lied to us.. Dunno boss, we were never sent over there..
@@krel7160 Ah, another man of experience hehe.
@@FallenRingbearer Shames the cameras weren't workin' over there neither, maybe ifs someone fixed it whens it were reported 2 months ago we'd know hows it happened? aw well..
@@krel7160 Its amazing how's them cameras always knowing when ta turn off.
It's amazing how much safety regulations have changed so fast. I was bucket truck certified in an old truck with no outriggers and no bucket stabilizer. That thing swayed, swung, and bounced like an amusement park ride. No harness. Instructor said go all the way up, go all the way out, go all the way around, and saddle the bucket. Most SCARED I've been my entire life. Before I saddled the bucket, I got it just off the ground and tried to flip the bucket. I couldn't, but did rock it to about a 45 degree angle. Then saddled it. He was FURIOUS! I said If I can flip it on the ground, I can flip it in the air. He passed me thankfully. And thankfully newer trucks have multiple stabilizers.
Verizon linemen here. 100% agreement. Do not miss the old trucks at all. Newest truck even has a heater in the frigging bucket. Glorious!
former charger lineman, we didnt get any kind of harness for the longest time when i working there lol, an we usually worked 28 - 32 feet in the air almost
@@jeffjr84 you aren't kidding. Harness, ground deployment tool, rubber blanket, and all my tools doesn't leave me alot of room up there anymore. Plus all the rules now.
@@jeffjr84 it does help that I do more fiber than I do copper or anything else. Lighter and easier to handle
New regs are often based on incidents. We keep getting more and more creative about getting seriously hurt or killed.
Hear me out! Okay Safety man where would you like me to tie off to?
Safety man: Well first you have to install this expensive bracket. Should only take you 15 minutes.
Ricky: So I'm allowed to install the bracket without a harness.
Safety man: Yes
Ricky: Let me get this straight, you want me unharnessed for 15 minutes to install a bracket that I need to tie off to in order to drill a hole that takes 5 minutes.
Safety man: Now you're getting it Ricky and by the way when you're done uninstall that bracket; like I said, it's expensive.
Ricky: You got it Safety man. I'm going to be unharnessed for 30 minutes in order to drill a (harnessed) hole that takes 5 minutes. Rrr sometimes Safety man.
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🤣👍 LOL! 😂🤣
I spent 41 years working construction an ammonia refrigeration. Love your stuff. 6'lanyard on a 4' ladder. Yep been there. Ran a small turret crane building out an engine room for 2 weeks safety guy asked for my operators card, handed him my driver's license. He turned some cool colors
Same here, worked with polar refrigeration out of Norman Park ga. 90% of what we did was Ag related so safety was minimal, but every once in a while we would have to suit up and follow the "RULES" when at processing plants for bagging greens, Pico de galo ect. That 10% of the time was the dumbest shit ever. I remember we were called saying there was a small anhydrous leak in processing line one, but it wasn't to bad because the crew could stand it, that they were in it now cleaning. I show up and they Inside Cleaning with chlorine........ needless to say them mfers were getting sick left and right🤣🤣🤣, anyways I suited up and found the leak in a stainless "union" leading into a set of chill plates. And then explained to them what safety obviously didn't, DO NOT CLEAN WITH CHLORINE IF ITS VERIFIED YOU HAVE A ANHYDROUS LEAK!
@@jmathews470 minimal safety in ag sector related work? Whaaaattt??? Nooo... I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you!
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@@iowafarmboy lmao
As a HVAC technician in Industrial and Commercial, I can honestly say that safety rules are in place when it's convenient. I can't begin to count the number of times safety was ignored, overlooked, violated to someone's AC back on. I believe in some safety, but this culture of all the safety is bullshit.
People always look at you stupid when you say that you believe in safety but can be a hazard.
-Your gonna work with a 150F liquid
-put on shoulder length liquid proof gloves, half face respirator, dense cotton short in case you get splashed, and a yellow Tyvek suit.
-LOTO take 30 min each way, process take 35 min, and you have 40min from shut off to start up.
-105F weather, on a black tarmac. Cant be out there for more than 15min at a time before your required to leave, take 10, and get some water. It take another 10min to get all your gear back on because you can wear it in the break room due to the chemical being poisonous.
Break any of these rules and your fired, but dont meet the deadline and your fired. Oh and we cant get you help because 'reasons'. Oh and if you cause a major spill were not responsible, you are. Dont fuck up.
*and no im not exaggerating anything here.
My thought process is well I work to live not live to work.
I'll miss a deadline because I'm not risking my life for any job.
🤣🤣🤣 like blowing some m099 off in the atmosphere? Or better than that is to release a bump or 2 of anhydrous off and watch them run 🤣🤣💯👍✌
@@Magavynhigara Sounds like someone isn't unionized. Your personal safety takes precedent over the job. It's an unsafe environment.
Too bad you seem not to have a right to refuse. If you were unionized, you'd be much better able to refuse to work until it's safe for you.
I work in a industrial setting as well and the harness don't come out until we over 8 feet in the air lol.
His facial expressions change with each character.hes got the safety man down pat!!!!
My two favorite channels, Breadstick Ricky & The Boss and AwakenWithJP - both are hilarious!!! Ricky and the Boss for pure amusement, JP... funny and depressing at the same time. I'm very thankful for both.
Saw the flyer at the end for a meet and greet in Houston... our entire plant and especially all of us maintenance guys love you videos where I work! Try to find your way up to Knoxville Tennessee and I know you'd have all of us and a good turnout!
As someone who works in a job that must be government inspected that’s exactly what it means when the inspector is gone.
love me some safety man he top class
Yeessss. You breaking the fourth wall in your skits has to be one of my favorites.
This is hilarious. I had a safety guy question why I didn't have a latter tied off even though there was nowhere to tie it off too. Then he asked me what I was working on and when I told him the AC he didn't say a word and just kept walking.
Thanks for the laughs.God bless you.
This one hits home for me. You are funny as he'll for this one.
You crack me up with all these vids keep them up
So true. Safety goes out the window when the job, or comfort are on the line.
I've recently been introduced to Ricky and the boss..... 😂😂😂😂🙏🏻. Thank Jesus for construction sight humor.... I'm a fan of the entire crew 🤷🏼♂️😂😂😂. I've been in all positions to some extent 🍻 obviously so have you. I appreciate the entertainment when I'm on the bosses dime 🙏🏻😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought you was gone, that's why I'm here... OMG that's funny. I love these
FYI. Under OSHA the ladder IS your fall protection. No need to tie off. Funny video as usual. Retired Construction Safety Engineer here. If your safety guy is telling you to tie off on a portable ladder? He or she is trying to kill you. 😀
So…. How many people you know got this death sentence? 😉
If you don't have 3 points of contact you HAVE TO TIE OFF!!!!
@@tammycarpenter7364 right foot, left foot, hand on ceiling 🤔 3 points
@@tammycarpenter7364 Fall protection/arrest systems are required on FIXED ladders greater than 24'. OSHA 1926.1053. Never tie off on a portable ladder. What would a person tie off to, and how would a person know if the tie off point will hold a 200lb worker?
@@ForeverSwinging None on my watch.
My favorite channel. Keep up the great work.
Lol this hit home for me as I've worked on a lot of roofs and in Tennessee you don't have to have a safety harness.
I feel ya, in 100°F, it's just too dang hot to wear a harness all day.. Sometimes you have to throw out that magic word "infeasible".
I've never heard of wearing a safety harness on a step before. I've worked in construction 7 Years and havey OSHA 30. Never mentioned. Love you vids ☺️
I climb 40' extension ladders. Ladder needs to be tied down top and bottom but not me.
@@RicanHavoc89 Somebody needs to tell this to installation companies, I worked for a cable contractor and we had to prove we could handle a 40' ladder on our own and ran solo.
You're correct. OSHA never requires a harness with portable ladders. This is a misconception that comes from people taking quotes from the section on elevated work platforms out of context.
This was funny🤣🤣🤣🤣 "I just wanted to let you know I had taco bell for lunch"
Thought you were going to lunch that's why I'm doing it now,,, spot on!!!
Loving the videos, as always it's a good laugh!
And ya... Safety man can go pound salt!!
Lol
I saw golf clubs in the background... when is the company golf outing ?!!! Bet Ricky would have fun with that!!
He'd look like a propeller out there. He'd just grip it and rip it
I've worked at the same place for 20 years and was there when we went through the transition to get more safety minded(large machine shop). I remember when they wanted us to be safe but some of the stuff we did was inherently unsafe and you couldn't do anything about it like deburring parts and finishes in certain areas you just HAVE to put your hands on while it's still in the machine spinning. I told them once I wouldn't do it because it was unsafe. Of course I was just screwing with them for getting on to me about something else safety related.... That's the part that sucks about safety, not everything can be made 100% safe. Accidents happen. I've actually seen safety blind people to dangers because "this area is supposed to be free of dangers!" There's no such thing. It was when we put yellow taped walkways on the floor. Nothing was supposed to be in the walkway so people wouldn't trip. Well a guy assumed there was nothing in the way and didn't look where he was walking and tripped on the corner of a pallet that was just barely over the yellow line. After that at safety meeting I always remind everyone of this and that nothing is made 100% safe. It's up to you to watch what you do and what's going on around you. You can't assume anything.
Bro i love your videos your awesome. Im so happy i caught it early
Stumbled on to this these are great thanks for the content
This is one of your best😂😂😂😂
Rick having taco bell then working in an enclosed space with other people around is human rights violation for the other person😂
You NEED BREADSTICK RICKY GIFs , I need them , my text conversations are incomplete without them
Man you are a legend, so much damn truth behind this hahah
"like I'm a helper or something" hahahah said it many of days.
😂😂😂😂 this guy is starting to become a legend
As an HVAC tech safety definitely goes out the window when people are hot or cold.
Lmmfao
well that made my day. haha
best part was Ahh the hail with the emails... that how i feel.
That was spot on 🤣 safety first
I hated having to put a harness on at my last job, the rule was if we dig a hole 6ft or deeper we need a harness.. it was fine when it was a giant gaping sandy hole but they wanted us to harness up for EVERY hole over 6ft, so even if it was only 6 inches wide we'd get in trouble for not wearing a harness 😡
As a roofer, I feel this on a spiritual level 🤣
Right there with you, the AC in my office went out last week during a hot spell and as soon as the boss came into the office he had the AC guy in house getting it fixed 😂
Congrats on the 600k. Just seen it turn while watching your videos
…….and just like that another masterpiece is born? Thanks bossman
Hey man I'm a framer by trade and idc what anyone says about this video I loved it this is hilarious keep it up bud
Recently had a discussion about harness safety with my own safety man. According to procedures, you're suppose to tie of roughly 17' from the air if you're 4' up. I asked how that was possible if I'm not suppose to be up high without tying off. Hopefully I'll get my answer after my 2 week suspension is up.
According to OSHA you are allowed to go as high up on a ladder as you want if the purpose is to tie off. I just had a big issue on a site I’m working on about this and found that out lol.
Which does not solve the other problem - Often when you are using tall ladders, there is nothing up there to tie your harness to.
You absolutely can not tie yourself to ladder. You can not tie yourself to the lets say lights that you are working on there because they can not hold your weight.
And if it is in cramped/inacessible space, you can not use lifting platform (if you even have one in first place.).
Official answer is that in these cases you are required to build scaffolding. Even if the job is just to change lightbulb and it would take you 30 seconds tops, according to rules you need to bring all the pieces of scaffolding there, have someone certified for building scaffoldings to be present and put it together under his directions. Test it and then use it. And then of course dismantle it and put it back.
Next time I will see someone do that, it will be first time
Lol thought he was gonna be like "the other 40% is writing you up"
So did I.
What is important is to be sure the lanyard is shorter than the distance to the floor. Just saying.
This really is Rickey's fault and he screwed up big time. Sometimes it seems like he is the new guy. He didn't have a safety man look out posted. I mean ground man. Yea yea that's the ticket a ground man.
Nice to see the real side of safety man!!!😂😂😂😂😂
Hmm so drilling above his head with no safety glasses and the safety guy only catches the no harness. He needs fired for not doing his job. 🤣🤣🤣
That's not an OSHA rule. OSHA never requires the use of a harness when using a portable ladder. The four foot rule is about when fall protection is required while working on on an elevated platform or walkway and it only applies to general industry. The height is increased to six feet for construction. A guardrail counts as fall protection. This is a startlingly common misconception and the false belief that OSHA is requiring something so silly as a harness on a portable ladder is a big contributor to people shutting down their brains and failing to even attempt to learn and understand safety regulations.
I don't think safety people actually read or follow the guidelines of OSHA. They are trying to justify their position, so they come up with anything they can think of that sounds "safer" even though they have no real world field experience. I did fire sprinklers in a Conagra plant that required us to be tied off anytime on a ladder. Safety can make up whatever rules they deem fit. They had some dumb story where someone fell off backwards and landed on their head and died. But really it sounded like a bunch of bullsh1t and circle jerking from the safety team.
This shits so funny happened the other day we had a black out for our outage for a few days I get back the AC broke that shit got fixed quick when all the old guys started talking shit lol great skit man😂😂😂
Safety man having crayons on his desk is fitting for someone tasked with enforcing a rule requiring being tied off with a 6' lanyard when working 4' off the ground.
In my experience as a commercial roofer the thing harnesses are best at is tripping you when youre just a foot or two away from the edge
Get the ones that work like a seatbelt. It’ll only come out as far as you need it.
I have been in that situation, and was wondering if ricky was going to get the same results that I got, but it went in a different direction, dang it. Awesome.
Love your videos
No other words can describe this ,just fn awesome 👏😎
Lol KEEP EM COMING BIG DOG
Don't judge me. Lol this was really funny. Keep'em coming.
He definitely needed the safety glasses to drill in the ceiling!!! Safty man says what AC, I got the ladder ur safe enough now hurry up!
He said, "extremely dangerous situation right now". 👍😆
You kill me mate lmfao
Damnit MAN!!! Yah know your supposed to varify the safety man's absence before you start or very least a look out LMAO!!!🤣😂🤣
We need tee-shirts??? Lmao!!!
🔥gets me roaring every time love it🔥👊🔥🏍🏍🏍
Safety man gave in real quick for ac 😂😂😂😂😂💀
I like that Ricky wears the same gold chain as the safety man.
When time is running short and something needs to be done really quick. I tell you what, some of the more asinine safety rules get overlooked really quick.
You had crayons on your desk?
Ok so areyou some kind of engineer? Lmfao
I’m in Ricky’s boat-why the heck do I need to have a harness on when I’m on any rung higher than 4 feet? That’s like wiping before you poop--it just doesn’t make sense!
But you have to wipe before you poop or you could risk it not being clean enough for the poop to come out! Thats gonna be a write up!
I swear to god the safety people have write up quotas.
Thats the perfect title 🤣 🤣
we all need to help this man get over 1 milliion subs. the content is to fucking awesome
The ac part reminded me of when I worked for Pete's carstar. Office was 67F and the shop was 115F. was told if you don't like the heat work harder and faster so you can leave on time. Did that for 6 years.
We all know that the overzealous safety rules will take a back seat to productivity every time. I've been a millwright/ mechanic/ welder/ electrician for over 20 years in a couple of large corporations. Just remember the creed: We the willing, do the impossible for the ungrateful, and have been doing the impossible for so long with so little that we can now do anything with nothing.
So true. You can not even "legally" get in the cab of a truck without a harness. More bureaucratic b.s. for some putz in an office that needs to feel important.
That's rite wen the Ac guy in site all rules fly life is funny that way some times🤣🤣🤣✌️
My hat's off to you on that 4th wall break.
Ricky needs to run for President in 2024. This country could use him, they just don't know it yet. He's a lot smarter than the past and current trying to run this country 😁
That's a lot like what I go thu with my management. Guy I work with says " a penny holding up a dollar".
"if it makes you feel better I thought you were going to lunch so that's why I'm doing it now"
Thats right Ricky. what the boss don't know can't hurt him.
Can confirm, air conditioning in the American South and Southwest are absolutely vital for survival and people will have no problem fudging the rules if it means not having to deal with 90+ degree heat for months on end.