S3E16: Toph's Actor Reacts To Avatar: The Last Airbender | 'The Southern Raiders' Reaction
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- Before the Netflix Avatar series releases, Toph Beifong's ORIGINAL Voice Actor is rewatching full episodes of Avatar: The Last Airbender! Today, she's watching "The Southern Raiders!" Continuing Zuko's field trips with almost ALL of Team Avatar... except Toph... he is now taking Katara to confront her mother's killer, Yon Rha! Let's revisit, rewatch, and react to the original series of Avatar: The Last Airbender, before the live-action series releases on Netflix!
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Tea Time with Toph is a CZcams series starring the voice actor of the original Toph Beifong herself, Michaela Jill Murphy! Follow along with all new episodes as Michaela rewatches and reacts to Avatar: The Last Airbender, all leading up to the new live-action series releasing on Netflix! Excited for what's to come, and thrilled to have all you Twinkle-Toes along for the ride!
Michaela Jill Murphy is an American voice, film, and stage actress. She is known as the voice of Toph Beifong in the animated Nickelodeon television series "Avatar: The Last Airbender". Michaela's voice has been featured in several animated movies, including Meet the Robinsons, Over the Hedge, The Ant Bully, Finding Nemo, The Emperor's New School, and Brother Bear 2. - Zábava
Katara: *bloodbends*
Zuko: She can do that? How am I still alive?
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I find the idea that simply choosing forgiveness disregards the complexities of past trauma that's tied to a certain person. This is why I absolutely love how this episode ended with Katara rejecting the notion of forgiving Yon Rha . She didn't get revenge and she didn't forgive him but she was able to face her trauma and not allow it to carry so much weight over her anymore. Definitely one of my favorite episodes in the entire show!
I feel like what Aang was trying to say that Zuko, Katara (and a lot of fans) overlook, is that forgiving doesn't mean you condone what the other person did. He's simply telling her (and Zuko since he thinks it's the same as doing nothing) "hey it's easy to look the other way. It's easy to ignore it. It's easy to do nothing." Because by doing nothing, you're not actively thinking about what happened to you, the wrong that was committed. By forgiving, you're remembering that act, but distancing yourself from that pain.
Because you can acknowledge what they did was awful, but it doesn't have a hold over you anymore. Forgiveness doesn’t mean that you condone anyone’s bad behavior. Nor does it mean that you continue to put yourself in harm’s way. Forgiveness is freedom. That's in part why Aang always leans into that route; he's an Airbender, and their element IS the literal definition of freedom.
@@TheRibottoStudios yes, forgiveness is for ourselves not for the one who has wronged us. however, most people (myself included) have no idea what it's like to forgive in a situation as serious as Katara's. these characters are human, and asking for someone to forgive the murderer of their mother is truly a buddha or avatar-esque position. it can be both the right choice but also one that would be nearly impossible for most people to make.
@@TheRibottoStudios Yes, exactly this. Thank you for pointing it out. This is why forgiveness is so difficult that many don't attempt it.
"...if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."
There's nothing anyone can do that we should not forgive, because unlimited forgiveness is always offered to us, should we choose to accept it. Unforgiveness can fester in the soul like a disease, spreading anger and hate like spores. Forgiveness brings peace and release.
That's not to say that wrongdoing should go unpunished. Forgiveness is not a denial of justice. But regardless of the offence, be it petty theft, r@p3, mrd3r, or g3n0cid3--to spare ourselves and those around us from deeper suffering--we MUST forgive.
@@space_acee That's more than fair. But let's look at it like this. Aang does not hold a grudge against Zuko for being Fire Nation. Even though it would well be within his right. He holds no grudge against Avatar Roku even though his inaction kickstarted the 100 Year War (I'm not gonna blame Roku for the Genocide of the Air Nomads). He even forgave and reconnected with Roku in the comics after they had a fight over their disagreements with how to handle Zuko should he ever end up like his father. He let go of the numbness he felt post losing Appa, he even offered an olive branch to Zuko in the Blue Spirit episode. And this is a boy who has lost EVERYTHING. And is a man out of time. He gets ragged on by the fandom for being a goody goody, but he's a better man than any of us. Certainly better than me because I'd be hella petty in his shoes.
Yon Rha immediately offering up his own mother as a deal after figuring out he killed Katara's mother is one of the funniest dark humor jokes in the whole series. I like the fact that Yon Rha is just this sad old man, because it shows that people who are put in positions of power can and do abuse that power to do horrible things, and it shows that even a war criminal like him who has done bad things is still a human being. This is such a great episode for so many reasons. The looks of fear and awe Zuko gives her when she's bloodbending and when she's stopping the rain, the serious conversations about morality, and also the reveal that Katara actually found her mother's burned corpse which is another reason why she is so scarred and still haunted by this moment
People always give Katara shit for being mean to Sokka, saying, "You didn't love her like I did" and comparing her loss to Sokka's, and Aang losing his people, implying that she overreacted. But the way I see it, Katara's whole character is centered around her taking care of people, being motherly, and protecting her friends. As she said in the Painted Lady, she will never turn her back on people that need her. She literally turned her back on her mother, who died in order to protect her. Exactly the opposite of how Katara sees the people she loves. She can't reconcile that shortcoming with her nature as a protector
Not to mention, people just keep underestimating the feel of anger. Katara was blinded by that sentiment because Fire Nation literally took away the one person she loved the most without knowing the reason why. She even heard Sokka that he barely remembers his mother because he was always more interested in becoming a soldier like his father and always saw Katara to be the one looking out for him.
I'm just imagining Zuko watching the bloodbending going 'she can do THAT??? holy sh*, did I get lucky'
Because I'm not sure he has any context, and has no idea she can only do it once a month.
Not only was this episode eye awakening for Katara to learn forgiveness and Zuko seeing blood blending for the first time. But wide awakening for Aang to question and approach the question of he was going to defeat the firelord with his morals .
1:12 So peaceful, and then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
If you look at 6:07, Sokka is fiddling with a lei...to imply that Sokka got "lei'd" in the tent! When Katara starts bloodbending, Zuko makes that face you make when you didn't realize you were gonna have to play good cop, like " 👁👄 🔴 THAT COULDA BEEN ME". And it's insane to know Grey DeLisle wasn't just Azula in this episode, but also Kya! Something to note about the name Kya is that it references how in the unaired pilot, Katara's name was originally Kya! However, due to the existence of a video game character named Kya (from Kya: Dark Lineage) and to avoid a potential lawsuit, the creators changed the name to Katara once the actual show began production.
The imagery of Zuko and Azula falling and Zuko having friends there to catch him while Azula has had to power through on her own is very telling about the way these two children who grew up in an abusive and toxic household and how their characters developed. The best part is that Zuko appears to be worried when she's falling but disappointed when she survives. I wouldn't take any other kind of response from a character as complex as Zuko. And not only is Zuko's leap impressive, but right after she said, "I'm about to celebrate becoming an only child", Azula stopped all forward momentum with her flip and also had enough power to launch herself backwards!
okay that emoji face fucking sent me. i was out of breath and coughing.
Michaela really is like Ty Lee. Her aura has never been pinker!
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5:35 Even better when you realize that Toph was the one who earthbended and built the tent that Sokka wanted to meet Suki in.
If she didn't lift her feet up when she went to sleep that night, she most likely "saw" everything that went down. Or to be exact... when Sokka got "lei'd".
This is my favorite episode of the entire show. I don't think there has ever been a revenge story executed soo well in just one TV episode. It taught me that just because you spared the person you loathed doesn't mean you forgave them.
A fun little adult detail i learned years ago that I love.
Before going into Sokka's tent, Suki has a flower in her hair, and the next morning, Sokka has a Lei. Such a fun little euphamism snuck in there in such a subtle way.
I love how toph always has to remind everyone that she is blind 😂😂😂
lollll
People talk about forgiveness, but, to me, forgiveness is something that must be sought.
Why should I have to go through the emotional labor of absolving someone of a misdeed when they can't even bother to own up to it? Especially something as heinous as killing someone in cold blood, this was an act of genocide, the fire nation was attempting to wipe out the water benders whether by imprisonment (in case of Hama) or death.
That being said, just because I don't forgive someone doesn't mean I need to dwell on what happened either. Life continues and you find a way to continue living.
One of the best episodes in the series hands down. That Azula impression is also spot on.
“Revenge is like a poison. It can take you over, and before you know it, it can turn you into something ugly.”
I feel like Aang was right, If Katara had gone the revenge route it could have changed her into a different person.
my only disagreement here is, not 'could' but 'would.' this episode was only the 2nd time Katara blood bended, and to my knowledge she only ever blood bended twice. if she took the path of revenge it would have become far too easy for her to also go down the path of blood bending, and constantly seeking revenge for perceived wrongs.
He was right about the fact she shouldn't kill him, but she still 100% needed to go on that journey for closure
Into hama. You can see several times in this episode that she shows the same facial expression as hama+ the bloodbending
Then that would've been her choice. That's not for Aang to decide.
Maybe he was right. Maybe he wasn’t. But the point is that Katara should have been the one to figure it out without any influence from Aang or anyone else.
Aang should have also said,"And how do you think I felt about that crazy psycho earth general who I thought had killed you?"
I feel like you can see Azula falling from here, I think in the previous episode when she came face to face with Zuko again on the gondola she didn’t expect his new firebending abilities and and control he learned from the dragons. Where Zuko previously at best was able to only deflect Azula’s blasts he now has more peace of mind and control in his firebending so it makes him a much more dangerous opponent now.
It’s fascinating to see Azula slowly losing control and slip up after Mae and Ty Lee’s betrayal in the previous episode and Zuko reveling in his newfound abilities and finally gaining acceptance from this new friends.
The better Zuko becomes over the course of these episodes the more Azula is falling down, it just always fascinates me to see that parallel
Zuko had a 5 star GTA wanted level at the beginning of the episode
Someone please let her know that Azula's *Fire* is also blue and not lightning, before the Final Agni Kai
I like how the episode tells us that you can’t forgive everyone. We don’t hear that enough.
I remember the first time I watched this episode, with Aang pushing the non-violent resolution thing and thinking, "yeah, I bet he forgets that when it's time to face the fire-lord." Then Zuko ASKS THE QUESTION. I was already a pretty devoted viewer at that point, but that was something else man.
bitterness, being the opposite of forgiveness, only hurts the one who is choosing bitterness. (insert Nelson Mandela quote here) Bitterness is often the easier choice while forgiveness is hard pretty much 100% of the time. The greatest benefits and accomplishments in life don't come from choosing the easy way. Choose forgiveness.
Zuko personally had nothing to do with Katara’s mom’s death
Yon Rha would’ve been toast, if this wasn’t a kids show lol
4:56 Sokka being the massive flirt that he is XD
Azula pulled up like a gangsta
Forgiveness is as much, maybe more, about healing yourself than about the one you forgive. One important thing, forgiving is not forgetting - you can forgive but remember. Also, just because you forgive someone does not mean you have to accept them back into your life. Forgiving is not about being stupid or forgetting things. Forgiving is about releasing the angry and moving on.
All that said: it is always best to forgive - and while sometimes that puts everything back to the way it once was, often there is still a need for consequences.
In the live-action Netflix version, it is explicitly shown in Katara's flashback that her mother was burned alive and she saw it.
Explicit: but I remember reading a meme about the pain Toph must’ve been through that night as she can see what everyone is doing with her earthbending lol… there would’ve been lots of movement that night with Sokka and Suki lol😅
@2:39 I KNOW RIGHT?!? when i first saw Sokka’s hair down when they were going to bed in other episodes..I had to rewind !
I would have loved a scene of Toph walking by Sokka and Sukki and telling them “I felt that”.
Another example of why this show clearly isn't just for kids. Alot of people proceed to call avatar a "kids show", but they forgot it has episodes like this, that prove that this show was made for everyone of all ages. Katara literally tried to get revenge on the guy who killed her mother when she was little. Like, come on.
That technique she uses (10:21) is called Needle at the Sea Bottom from Yang Style Taijiquan. Savage wrist lock irl with the potential to rip ligaments.
What!! So cool - I didn’t realize Toph’s voice actor had a CZcams channel 😀 she’s my favorite character.
The issue with firelord ozai isn't revenge or pain, it's about getting rid of danger, threats; protecting the innocent. That needs to have necessary violence.
RE: Forgiveness
There was a piece by Scroobius Pip that talked about 4 lessons that changed his life and one of them was "If you can't forgive and forget, then how's this - Forget forving and just accept." To break that down, you don't have to forgive somebody who hurt you, but you don't have to dwell on either. You can carry on without forgiving them or forgetting the pain and without aiming for revenge. It happened, sometimes nothing changes that and nothing will make it feel better. If you can't put it behind you then the only thing you can do is live with it, and you won't be able to do that without accepting that you can't change what has already happened.
Seeing Katara use Bloodbending again was a hell of a scene. One parallel I drew between Avatar and Harry Potter was Bloodbending being the forbidden dark form of Waterbending similar to dark magic in Harry Potter, in a sense Bloodbending is the Cruciatus Curse in Avatar but I'd say deadlier because the bender is legit the puppet master while whoever its used on is the puppet doing things they don't want to do.
Completely agree! Although I think the Imperius Curse would be a closer analogy.
My thoughts exactly. They said he retired, not got fired. As a member of a Waterbender Raiding company you would figure he would have had SOME form of payment for his service. Even Ozai has to understand the value of rewarding his soldiers with compensation. He actually has rewarded what he considers to be good service. He promoted Xaio to Admiral and gave him a HUGE fleet even after he lost a duel to Zuko. It kind of makes me wonder if the Fire Nation just revoked every privilege he ever had once he retired. Taking his home, his saved wages for services rendered; and just threw him out on the street.
Dealing with any pain with any form of violence will more likely ruin you. No matter you do you can't be violent.
Was the fact that Katara didn't need the full moon to bloodbend ever adressed? Was it meant to be a full moon but the establishing shot was left out? Was it meant to show how much power she was drawing from her rage? Or is she just that powerful at her baseline now? She did tell Hama that she was stronger than her during thier fight.
One thing it's easy to forget is how these kids' literal lives have been depending on thier respective skills improving throughout thier journey so they've really honed them to become true masters of thier elements. Even Sokka, not just after learning swordsmanship, but even more so that god level accuracy with his boomerang when he took out Sparky Sparky Boom Man.
One of my favourite theories about ATLA is that Hama, the blood bending woman is partially responsible for Kya's death.
"I'm not taking prisoners today" is probably because the last one developed blood bending and broke out of prison, which probably made the fire nation a bit scared of trying to imprison water benders.
The timeline fits too, Hama broke out of the prison before they returned to the south pole, which we can figure out because of Kataras age.
Spooky stuff.
this episode was incredible for me for a number of reasons but specifically when I watched as a kid was eye opening. i had left a very toxic friendship and a lot of people around me were telling me to forgive them but seeing katara not forgiving him or taking revenge but still getting closure in a sense by facing that trauma gave me an approach to deal with that friend. serious shout out to all the incredible writers of this show who broke down this topic in a great way for kids to process and understand
Well you should let them off the hook, especially if they apologize sincerely, but either way if they are still a toxic human being its best to be on your own way and let that be enough.
Balance is key…
Sometimes you need violence to get the point across, and sometimes words will do just fine
I always wondered how Sokka could possibly still be in a romantic mood after recounting his trauma of losing his mother. Like I feel like I'd be in a depressive state and would need a moment.
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Oh that frame was the best!!😆😆😆
7:10 Doing nothing takes more energy than acting out, restraint and forgiveness is hard work, to actively combat your own emotions and supress the urge to lash out. it's easier to follow those feelings. but in the end, forgiveness is more rewarding.
Toph woke up in the middle of the night feeling some things in this episode. Of course they didn't show that but you know it happened. 😳😆
All zutara fans rise up
Me:rises
Sokka is a maaaassive bottom and I love it LOL
RE: forgiveness.
I believe it is _not_ necessary to forgive others when they have wronged/hurt you. Holding others accountable for their misdeeds _is_ very appropriate, and may prevent others suffering harm from those individuals who are actually abu$ive -which is not the same thing as seeking vengeance.
I believe that survivors need to "forgive" themselves; for not being able to prevent the harm that befell them, for being damaged by the malicious actions of others, and for needing time and effort to recover from their trauma.
For anyone who needs to see this: Don't feel guilty for needing space, time and hard work to heal your soul. Remember recovery isn't linear, and asking for help is not a shameful thing. I hope you find your peace.
4:15 Small detail, I love how known of the other gang members( Aang, Sokka, Toph, even Suki) don’t try to convince Katara to forgive Zuko. I think it’s because they understand that Katara still has a right to be upset with Zuko after everything he did to her. Even though at this point in the story Zuko’s changed.
When I want to feel something, I watch this episode. It is so good. Thanks for reacting!
Finally caught up with all the TTWT episodes i missed 🎉
sokka with his hair down gives daddy energy
I’m patient with revenge. I never forget but I also don’t let it overtake me. I’ve waited over ten years for some revenge. Some people need to be reminded of their past deeds.
Agreed, some folks these always want to choose the easy path of forgiveness and others would be mean about it if you don't forgive.
Love the drill sound when he sucks in the rose
Forgiveness is literally the act of letting go, and has nothing to do with action. You can choose to forgive and to act at the same time. In the same vein, you can choose to hold on to all the bitterness and still do nothing. Forgiving someone who hurt you so deeply is so incredibly hard to do, which is why some people, including Katara, choose not to. But letting go is not the same as reconcilliation, making it okay or enabling crappy behavior, it's simply choosing not to let it poison you anymore. And this episode was an excellent example of what holding onto that resentment can do to you. It poisoned her until she was resorting to bloodbending, torture and attempted murder. She needed to let go.
I always think of "teen Titans! let's go!" when you introduce your show.
@2:39 well yeah - He is the rizzbender!
It would have been terrifying if Aang responded by the Avatar state taking over and saying, "I will give your father a punishment worse than death could ever be."
One of his chakras were blocked so he wasn't going in the avatar state so easily
Pink looks good on you, Michaela. 💖
It's likely Yon Rha is the one that owns the house and is taking care of his mother. I'm pretty sure that sort of thing would be the norm in the Fire Nation
Greetings from Texas ✌🏼 I think Katara needed to get some closure about her past. She needed to confront her mother’s killer so that she can move on from this trauma. Maybe not kill him, but let her anger out. She did kinda blamed Zuko for this as Ozai and Azulon ordered the water tribe raids which caused the near extinction of the water benders. This was also Zuko’s chance to mend things with Katara because he’s giving her that window of closure. Thus, redeeming himself in Katara’s favor.
Also, I think letting Yon Rha live knowing that he left two children motherless for nothing is a better revenge than killing him.
Great episode. It’s nice to see Katara finally getting closure for his mother’s death, though still not coming to terms with it all the way through. I think this is a good episode to prepare us for the end, as it preludes to the moral dilemma we have to face in the final episodes: is killing ok?
I think forgiving someone for such an act isn't an option.
It's not so much about revenge, but I guess for justice.
I am not saying the same thing should happen to that person.
But you sure as hell should want that person to be unable to ever hurt anyone the same way ever again.
Once again I’m asking the original cast to watch the final together or the live action series
This is such a great episode!!!
So glad you're doing all these, so awesome to watch.
Great Voice actor by rhe wat! You're one of my favorites! (Zuko is my favorite I gotta apologize) also, I tend to do nothing about most things, but I also tend to forgive too easily
2:11 That's exactly what I always say, you could voice Azula.
Well I just realized that, if the couple at the camp did do the deed. How much did Toph unfortunately witness via earth radar/sense? That poor kid can't catch a break 🤣
I'm loving this series so much like I'm actually drinkin the tee with you😭😭😭😭❤️
Thursday! Just a few more days!
Thanks for making the wait just a little bit more enjoyable :)
Love you so much! You are my fave character in the show❤ thank u for making my childhood!!
thank YOU for watching!! 💚
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I think both Aang and Katara are right. Forgiveness is hard and might even be impossible in some cases. But we should all try our best to live by Ang’s advice of forgiveness.
This was a great episode
I think it's been the most scariest we've seen Katara, in any episode, we've seen her pissed before, but not this level of pissed. I would like to believe that scene where she confronts Yon Rha could of been much darker but toned down for a kids show. Who knows... maybe the Live-Action can show a more darker side of that.
There's no way you didn't tear bend by the end of that one!? lol! Anyhew, forgiveness is the best antidote with anything, weather it be to yourself. or someone else.
I think Aang is wrong here. If you take an innocent life away on purpose, you shouldn't get to walk free without punishment, be it justice or revenge. That life can never be brought back, then there's the irreparable damage that loss does to the victim's family and friends as well.
Letting that kind of monster walk free is the same as doing nothing. He deserves his own medicine, regardless of how sad his life is. If someone killed my mother and I had Katara's abilities, I wouldn't let him live.
That hat is adorable Appa with his coffee mug i want one
I'll never blame a soldier for his doings. It's his leader/boss/commander. Except if the soldier likes killing and violence without hesitation.
There was a video I watched a long time ago about forgiveness in a society we can live without justice but not mercy. Justice without mercy is cruelty and mercy without justice is dissolution.
I'm still scratching my head to this day wondering: how did the Southern Raiders know there was a waterbender there without also knowing who it was? If their unnamed source had witnessed it, they should at least know that a child did it. Did they just happen across an unnatural ice formation and conclude that only waterbending could make that shape?
1:30 in case you’re wondering, yes, she ships them.
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I think what a lot of people don't understand about forgiveness is that it's not for the person/people that harmed you, it's for yourself. It's you deciding you're done being angry and you don't want it to consume your life anymore. I can't imagine what I'd do in Katara's position, but I do know that she needs closure and for her the only way to get that is to face that man.
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I'm the same way. I'd like to be quick to forgive someone, but unfortunately, I like to hold a grudge for a while. 😬
I think certain things are impossible to forgive, but everything should be faced and dealt with. I agree with the approach Katara ultimately took, facing your trauma but not forgiving something as big as that. I would have done the same
1:32 most Zutara moments comes from this episode if I'm not mistaken
I try and generally fail at forgiveness, so I attempt to do nothing. Doing nothing isn't easy. The things I want to do would put me in prison and give me worse karma than I already have.
This show is awesome! ❤🔥
Not gonna lie, I'm crushing right now 🥰
This is such a masterpiece of an episode! I'm just in awe at how it was done. It always kind of bothered me though how Aang tried to convince Katara to forgive her mother's killer. Like I get the meaning behind it but I don't think forgiveness is the right word. I think you can still move on and heal without actually forgiving the person so I like how it ended with Katara stating that she will never forgive the man but is ready to move on. I honestly wish this was a two parter like The Boiling Rock. I feel like it so easily could have been with part 1 being Zuko and Katara hunting down the wrong man and part 2 being hunting down the right man.
Tbf, Zuko didn't lie about everything to Katara in Ba Sing Se. Granted, they still both lost their mothers to the Fire Nation.
I know you didn't show it, but in Katara's flashback, it fades out before she and Hakoda rush in. It's very much implied that Kya was killed just before, so Katara likely walked in on her mother's corpse. I think that's a huge reason why Kya's death affected Katara more than Sokka, and why she's so much more focused on revenge and making the man pay than Sokka. She saw her mother dead, while Sokka didn't. That would have a huge impact on your life.
The drill sound at 4:57 always gets me 😂
I’ve been binge watching you watch through all day, but you have to absolutely must have Zack on for the finale
I don’t believe in forgiveness, i believe in letting go and moving on. Forgiveness is only necessary when you want to move one with someone, but when things are so big and you don’t want a relationship or bond with that someone, forgiveness is not necessary
Wow honestly is crazy the Brayan and Dante were able to get away with in this “children’s show.
My view on revenge is that letting a bad person live on is the best “revenge”. It’s almost like torture. Being a bad person is an awful and agonizing existence. If you take that persons life you let them off the easy way. Also that person probably has a family, creating a cycle of violence.
I forgot that she doesn't need the full moon to bloodbend. Violence is a simple answer and not all questions have or deserve simple answers.
7:25 if I can, I prefer to ignore the person whether they choose to interact with me or not after the event. Throw them in exile. Then I give it time so my emotions go away, and then I can think about whether I need to take action or not. I don't want to be steamrolled by someone who doesn't care about me, but I also want to allow for second chances. So I might reach out and talk to that person, and if they don't respond I'm out. If they do, no holds barred. It's all coming out 😅