Armada: Vanguard | World of Warships
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2019
- HMS Vanguard was the last of the Royal Navy battleships to be constructed, and the largest British battleship in history.
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Does this mean she will be on sale again soon ?????? and will she be for coal ?
Yes plz sell her in the arsenal for coal!
Who came up with the in-game paint scheme? A teen with concentration difficulties? Why make it as unhistorical as possible?
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I wanted to now when this ship and king gorge v the hood, to word of Warships blitz for android?
Vanguard: Whats my purpose?
Royal Navy: To be scrapped
Oh my God.
Sadly
@@AlsoCreamy Better to die in battle and live on in a story, tales and song,
Definitely a ship that should've been kept instead of scrapped. Ceremonial purposes for sure, but this IS the last battleship ever built.
By the end of the war britain was in so much debt for years to come it costed to much to maintain and pay 1200 men n women to man the ship. They should of turned it into a museum ship and had it in London and make money off the last battleship built by the British ever
@@ceayonjohnston4368 And what did the f-tards do instead?
@@MrPatriot112 Turned into razors and lab materials.
I don't think any politician wanted to tell the masses to pay for a battleship while rationing was still in effect. Britain had cities to rebuild.
I actually agree with you. The last battleship ever built in the entire world should have been kept as a museum.
You forgot a few things:
Her main guns were completely rebuilt which made them basically brand new
The loading mechanism was completely brand new
The fire control system was the most advanced ever put on to a battleship
She was the most accurate battleship afloat (beating the Iowa’s)
She had essentially an auto aim which adjusted the turrets automatically so they would hit every time.
Her armour layout was placed in a more effective layout
She fired a super charged shell which hit harder than any British battleship built before it (even the Nelsons)
Her AA is all radar guided
Her secondaries are all autoloading which gives them a reload of about 6 seconds
TigerLoaf Games dang that’s on par with every battleship maybe equal to Bismarck
Glenn Andrei Dacara: she was superior to Bismarck in almost every way. What are you going on about? Even POW with 14” guns mission killed Bismarck.
Just wait for a buff
@@jugganaut33 r/wooooooooosh
@@Canucklehead21 huh? That wasn't even a joke, why are you wooshing?
So you make the Vanguard, one of the most advanced floating radar platforms built, with only the pair of T3 consumables and then give the soviet paper ships a special radar... Ok.
Not to mention its shit
Bias
Fun fact #1 - not only were Vanguard's gun form Glorious and Courageous along with other ships too e.g elevation gear and gun houses, but they were extensively renovated before instillation they were essentially as good as brand new. Fun fact #2 - The Vanguard's design and hull form not only gave her the best seaworthiness in the RN battleships but it actually gave her better seaworthiness than the US Iowa Class which could not deal with sea anything other than calm seas as well as Vanguard could - honestly google and look at photos of Iowa in rough seas compared to Vanguard in rough seas.
StBg 17 I've seen conflicting info on how the Iowas were in rough water.
@@pantherv2669 they were not good in rough seas having to push at reduced speed where vanguard could push a head at near if not full speed.
The are accounts of the two on joint post WW2 exercises together and Iowa had a much poorer ability to do much compared to the Vanguard especially rough seas. that being said Iowa is still a quality ship class.
@@amandafranks5108 indeed. Anyway both ships were designed with the terrain of different oceans in mind. The Iowa's for the Pacific and the Vanguard for the more rough Atlantic.
True, as most likely the Two nations working together operating in their respective oceans to maintain control.
She's not a terrible ship. I've had fun playing her and have even had a couple of 150k damage games in her. Vanguard is a difficult ship to play, due to the fact she sees a lot of tier X ships.
I really like the british Battleships :) they allways look like someone took a Knights Castle from the medieval England and screw it on a ships hull xD
Nice moment to advertise a concealment-focused ship.
put her up to tier 9 and give her a load of buffs including more accuracy on the guns, penetration and for god sakes some radar. as this is the most advanced Battleship in history.
Not if you count the modernized Iowa, but in terms of their specs in 01-01-1946, Iowa's still somewhat better, but Vanguard's more advanced.
@@zerefsunlimitedshipworks i mean the vanguard had better armor and fire control, but the iowa had the better gun and was faster, a battle between the 2 would be something to behold.
Give her the best 15 inch guns in the game, 31 knots, better aa and radar and historical upgrades to her secondaries
The Vanguard has the wrong secondaries, they should be the RP10 mounts, not the 15 year older mk1 mounts off the KGV. They were built with better autoloaders, and remote radar controlled tracking and directors.
They're not called RP10's, but they basically are - WG essentially gave the rate of fire stats of the RP10 mounts (9 rpm) to all the 5.25" mounts on RN battleships. That being said, Vanguard and Conqueror do get improved versions that has considerably longer AA range (under the old AA system, the other ships had a base range of 4.5 km, while the Vanguard's had 5.2 km base range).
While the base fire rate is higher than the mk1 historically obtained it is still the same gun as on the KGV when it should have improved accuracy and effective range. The Vanguard will never be a great secondary ship but it shouldn't be artificially gimped in that area either. Although improving the AA range and not the base range is a very odd choice... It just seems that at every opportunity they have deliberately ignored the ships real strengths and then act surprised when it inevitably underperformed.
@@godalmighty83 As a secondary gun? Range is determined usually by the ship line it belongs to, not the guns themselves - hence why, for example, Roma's 152mm guns and 90mm guns share the same range as secondary guns (the same 5 km as the British 5.25" guns, in fact).
That's not a slight against Vanguard, that's just how the game treats secondary guns. The improved fire control of the Vanguard's guns is represented by the increased AA range, which is only shared by the tier X battleship. And to be fair, this does make sense, as most of the RP.10's improvements were geared towards better AA performance rather than anti-ship performance.
While that's typically true there are exceptions, the massachusetts for instance which is dominating the T8s or on the other side there is the Fiji which has a shorter range than the Leander despite having the same secondary guns. It's all at the whims of WG.
Ship needs more buffs and tbh, T8 is a HORRIBLE tier to play at.
I like her, major downside is her all or nothing scheme. IFHE is just too OP against that scheme. A light cruiser shouldn't do 4K salvo's every 5 or so seconds regardless of angling.
@@VayleGW IFHE will be changed soon though.
Until then, my Vanguard will remain at safe distance and will only fire on these fire starters from stealth
#FixTheCVs
T8 in general is bad. All T8s suffer from this
The first 5 games in vanguard yes was shut but once you learn how to play this ship it's amazi g
She does look good but for now at least I'm reluctant to invest anymore money into the game
Lovelacebeer try wot and wot blitz at tier 8 :/
I'm right there with you. I do have vanguard though, and it is a solid ship, though tricky to play. Its average damage is a bit low with less smaller guns, and the fire chance is actually pretty average. Its one of those battleships that plays more like a heavy cruiser. It's anti air is pretty phenomal which is nice right now.
This whale's wallet is closed until they announce premium nerfs wont be happening. They can keep the buffs too, I prefer to get what I pay for thanks.
endo mofo she does look fun and I admit I would like her but yes I prefer to know what I'm paying for and not finding it changes after purchase
@@gonotgone1 But nothing about vanguard is changing.
#FixTheCVs
I love this ship. I think it is one of the best tVIII BBs in the game
She's a rather rare ship. I barely see her in battle. I even see more Kii's and Gascones than Vanguards in T8. Too bad cuz she looks like a good ship. I hope she drops in a SC for me.
Gascogne is a great Ship - i love her
#FixTheCVs
Its because people try to play her like a normal bb u have to play her like a conqueror sit back and burn everything u see
@@inqix5367 flandre now , is better
I would love a Cape Town Port with Table mountain in the background,there is a famous photo where Vanguard is in Cape Town with Table Mountain in the background
Honestly,she can be useful on some cold war battles, like korean war for example
is she can beat T10?
80%~ of battles T8 are against T10 so if she cannot this is useless
Of course she can't, but she can handle them once you know how to play her. Once you know how to Vanguard, you know how to Bismarck as well
T8 in T10 is how you smart can you play, use island use anything that can be your advantage
a t8 bb in t10 is not the worst thing, a t8 cruiser in t10 this is what you called bad but even so play smart you will still do something
@@ahwai82 only 30% - 40% of game you will have island on your favor to help you in this, that mean the chance to have fun is always small, same as the stupid 3 tiers battles, but they don't want to make the good
@@Hanimichal
Some of the maps now its much better in terms of island placement, but still its gonna be rough. When uptiered always remember doesnt matter in a cruiser or bb being lowest tier you become a support ship.
@@ahwai82 maps are not the problem and realy cannot help some ships or some spown in game. 3 tiers always it is the problem and no matter what island you have because some ships cannot fight against 2 tier higher, you have a good example the Graf Spee is obsolete for many T7 and absolutely useless against any T8 and there no island she can hide because is very slow in movement and in reverse engine or stop.
MASSACHUSETTS Yes, I can beat many T10 with she, but for all the ships of the tree it is absurd to fight against higher tier 2x
32mm armour, giant citadel and eight T6 guns.
Somehow is still really fun!
I can't wait for the next Naval Legends
I mean at least she was a “Real” ship! Not just an idea on paper!
Military history and gaming all in one package
Would be a great T7 Battleship but at T8 she's just a big floating target. She needs that repair party too.
They messed her up, A and Y turrets have the wrong rotation limits, she has the wrong secondaries, doesn't have any consumables to represent her situational awareness capabilities, doesn't have the improved flooding protection the hull was redesigned for and generally ignored all of her real life attributes.
No HMS HOOD was a Battlecruiser not a heavy
Yeah but concealment got nerfed so is it still viable?
yes, she had a 14 km detection range with cammo and concealment. It gets even better with the module. most RN BBs have good concealment, the only BBs that it's still worth taking
Vanguard was one of those beautiful battleships that were built, but had no chance to show their full battle potential in World War 2 and broken up for scrap after the war. In my opinion, placing Vanguard in World of Warships was a great choice, as not only do we see, how would she prevail against enemy warships, but like the developer said, it's a ship that needs clever tactics to survive.
it is a tough ship to play but i think it requires some buff, like you could improve its dispersion a little bit more since it does not have many guns and they are 380cm they aint gonna overmatch much when uptiered. a 50 mm middle deck would be useful as well. or maybe how about improved AP angles like those from stalingrad)) or it would be to OP?
The thing is, british battleships have a massive superstructure and it having basically no armour it can be fatal if a salvo comes to you
When u are in a match against t10 ships, you will know those 381mm guns are both old and useless.
and roma, tirpitz,bismarck,monarch,richelieu etc, they have 380mm
@@stez3295 Roma's gun penetration is the most penetrating 15 inch gun it was even more powerful than some 16 inches in her tier
I saw this ship in full health deleted by NC in one salvo about 13 km.
“It’s enough to dodge torpedoes and escape with minimal damage” It doesn’t matter how fast the rudder turns, if her tactical diameter is 850 meters, it means she’ll barely turn much even at full rudder shift. Quick Rudder Shift just means you can start the hardest turn it can make just a bit earlier and that doesn’t mean much when torps won’t show up far enough away. Say torpedoes appear off your starboard side , no matter how fast rudder shift is, you’re still dead. Imo, if your Turning Circle Radius is 800 or more, you’re slow to turn and will have a hard time dodging torpedoes. Hood has the same issue but at least with Hood, there are records of crew noting that she had a hard time turning in and out of port. So it makes sense for Hood in this case. Furthermore, while Iowa has decent rudder shift time, her 920 m turning circle radius is atrocious, as she historically had a turning radius of 744 m. Which is very good for her size. But yeah, let’s make good ships turn like ass for no reason.
So what Is Vanguard real circle radius?
Micha-El Horus Her historical turning circle radius is 940 yards (or 859.536 meters)
Holly shiet are those 6 mount bofors
hurry up and release Alaska! I can't wait to try her poi~ :3
Watashi wa numba wan!
Gah I know! Checking for Alaska's release is about 80% of the reason I even log in right now.
She will be released soon. When exactly I sadly cannot disclose
@@FuryTomic soon is good. As long as there is a plan and it hasn't been forgotten in the rest of the nonsense.
Would be nice to see her come up for rent, so we can she what shes like before buying her.
Yep. Like World of Tanks.
Speaking of which, I hope they will give us Free Premium buy with Missions before obtaining it.
It would be really nice if there is a version of this ship on mobile.
narrator is an absolute god
Lower the citadel and this thing will be a beast.
The only problem is a lot of player will complain about it especially with the Conqueror controversy
Can u add this on blitz?
Most beatiful ship in game i think
I like the Holland class submarine
>sees Lion
YEEEEEA BOI
>Lion hull becomes Vanguard
*ties a Brit to a chair and microwaves a cuppa in front of him*
what happend with the spanish subtitles?? T_T
Where is Dasha?
Why should players buy a premium ship that will potentially be nerfed in the future (like happens to GC)?
I hope the Vanguard were added on Blitz
most people who reached tier have enough courage?
me: a player... no they hide behind islands and never cap
We built them and the navy broke them , pride o’ the Clyde.
Well new replacement of Hood.... what if it facing a Yamato and actually get detonated.... :3
I think you meant to say Bismarck not Yamato.
Hmm..... I prefer the old armada with such a cool infographic with 3d cg of the in game model
I thought this would be an Armada 2.0...
In PS4 the vanguard is hard to use most people say it's trash
the ship that signified the death of an empire
The last battleship made
I expected something slightly more than 6mins video when you made a 40sec trailer for it...
Love mine. Great AP, Excellent AA, Can take a beating, Torpbeats like a pro. Feels like the HMS Warspite on a Monster Energy drink rush
A three point skill for one consumable? Hmm
Tier 8? She's a Super Mobile Battleship. I give her surpasses Tier 10. Tier 0 of warship, however Britain of Royal Navy doesnt give reserve that is the maiin problem. She deserve love, got it?
2:06 her inner propellers had five blades not three.
Wow, you Really love historical accuracy 😜
3:32 given the fact there's a large number of players with tausends of battles and below 50% average I dare to disagree.
A ship named Vanguard which isn't good at pushing?
Makes ya think. 🤔
We like the Vanguard but at T8 it's just not very competitive.
he said enough history because of the tragedy of what they done to it
“Not in favor of Great Britain” *shows HMS Barham exploding*
Barham exploded because Jervis’ warning were ignored
What kind of warnings
fix the audio already ingame already
"Omae wa mou shinderu".
-CV
What i learned from this....Dasha has had a sex change.
Imagine uss Iowa and hms vanguard vs Bismarck and Yamato
Who do u think will win
I think Bismarck will be sunk and vanguard with a close call between yamato and Iowa
Did this video just try to tell us that at the start of ww2 the "balance of naval forces was not in favour of great Britain" . . .
Pull the other one, it's got bells on XD
HMS Vanguard deserved 16inch guns. But they wanted to speed up production and used 15 inch guns already built.. Tsk tsk tsk. She deserved to have the same caliber as HMS Rodney and Nelson. Such a shame. Or even the 419 MM guns.
In World of Warships Legends have she a 15km range….LOL :,)
RULE BRITTANIA BRITTANIA RULE THE WAVES
Ok... But the italian ships? : /
Just hold off on premiums for a while. You need to undo the carrier "rework" first, or remove the new "carriers." Full stop: undo the damage you caused, and then we can talk about selling ships to us again.
The true basement of conqueror, but unfortunately she does not own the same horrible HE like conqueror.
You actually call her difficult? That literally means she's underpowered
Not necessarily. A difficult ship can reward a competent player more than an average one.
i need korean subtitles
you need to learn english
English do you speak it
speak do you english it
Learno englisho
i can speak english but.... u know.
i know korean than english.
:)
Hmmmm.... Looks like vanguard is not selling well, huh WG?
Armada without THE MUSIC... shame!
For an HMS ship I was extremely dissapointed with her lack of consumables. She's okay to be used offensively, ...as a Vanguard because of her speed and armor, but her firing angles are atrocious.
Got it for free but am thinking of selling it for credits.
2019 Still no Montana Armada ......
Montana wasn't full built battleship.
Tirpitz & Bismarck still alot better, obv.. :D
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Talk about flogging a dead horse Wargaming... And with the up tiering of the Giulio Cesare they betrayed our trust so forget it!!!
Seriously? They moved Giulio to tier VI? Without any option in excange?
Not yet but they said they will next patch
Good video! Almost made me want to buy her but then I remember that WG is going to start messing around with prem ships and you no longer know if what you're buying is REALLY what you're buying. Sorry WG, you lost this whale. No more from me without a major company policy change and guarantee you won't change prems after you release them. Or if you do, you better offer real currency returns, not just doubloons or any other "in game" currency.
Just Got Vanguard On Azur Lane Today On 2nd x10 Pull, (2ND PULL GANG EYYYY--)
Goodluck On Fellow Commanders There Who Will Pull Her And Wish You Got Em ❤️
i got her and indomie on first 10 pulls Pog
@@amirullahakmal HOLY SHE--- Well Done Commander! 👌🔥
Weeb
#FixTheCVs
Give the Vanguard radar for Christs sake.
When I see Vanguard on my team, I know that we will lose...
You do know wargaming mess ship up, tends to make fake paper ship being overpower.
Wargaming = russia bias
Well isn’t that funny she costs £40
“Well-proven high calibre guns in stock...gathering dust in storage”, or rather the British couldn’t afford researching new naval guns so they could only mount obsolete guns on a new battleship???
No they just did not have the time to build any 16-inch guns that where planed for the Lion class .Money was not the issue.
The naval war was obviously winding down and the battleship was obsolete at this point, why waste resources on new gun designs? The Vanguard herself almost became a carrier when the design was reviewed late on.
The original plan was Vanguard along with 6 Lions. Vanguard for speed, Lions for quality
Since Warspite, Queen Elizabeth, Hood, and Vanguard all use the SAME GUN(s), shouldn't they fire the SAME SHELLS and do the SAME DAMAGE and have the SAME ARMOR PENETRATION?
richard cutts I wish but WG are a bunch of commie feckers
Not really. Warspite, QE and Vanguard got upgraded shells, whilst Hood did not (it required modification to the internals). And Vanguard fired supercharges. Queen Elizabeth and Warspite is a fair point though. The whole HE thing is very weird
British is good at showing off there powers on battleship ,but they are not good at all, proof is the Germans U-Boats almost defeated the British
Key word almost. The British maintained a strong surface ship program whilst also building many submarines, and most importantly developing strong anti-submarine capabilities, with literally hundreds, if not over a thousand escort vessels including carriers.
Germany could only do ones of those three, and after 1941 the submarine arm started to go significantly downhill
Add submarines they were a good part of naval history
they are actually working on that, but it will need (a lot of) time
Halloween was a sort of pre-beta test for subs. They’ll come, eventually.
Cool
#FixTheCVs
Ah yes, 8 knots underwater and completely unkillable for anything other than destroyers and carriers. A great class concept.
Sorry, but subs just won't work
Battleships in wows are total garbage.
Scot Fretwell u just suck at it.
Scot Fretwell you might not just be playing them right. When I play BBs, I have some really high damage games.
They are quite a lot harder than you would assume, and they do have issues as a class, but smart play is still rewarded with good results.