Returning Players Guide to Endgame Content in Guild Wars 2 2023
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Without a doubt, most MMORPG players have enjoyed Guild wars 2 at some point. Many have left and never came back, others have dabbled here and there for a long time. But! The endgame picture of Guild Wars 2 has never been stronger! There is SOOOO Much content and so much to do! Lets talk about it!
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What veterans of Guild Wars 2 WONT tell you....
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I won't tell you the best afk gold farm in the game that can run 24/7 without any interaction needed using only in game mechanics and only legit game play (no bugs abused).... because Anet would fix it after that Chinese dude posts it on youtube.
Lol - how clickbaity do you need to make your videos
My favorite thing about GW2 is that there is no set in stone gear grind treadmill endgame. You can do whatever you want. I did the sPVP grind for a full set of Legendary armor, now I'm working on WVW for the Legendary rings while achievement hunting. I like how I can do all this at my own pace.
Probably the best thing in this game is being able to go on your own pace and keep up with everyone else despite if you play 100 hours a week or 1
Honestly one of the best things that you can do as a returning player is the Character Adventure Guide in your achievement panel. There's things that new, returning & current players can discover/relearn.
The adventure guide is a Beast for exp and interesting little challenges to do with all the things you would be doing anyway!
I tried Guild Wars 2 way back in 2015. I've just reinstalled in again last week, now I'm hooked!
Welcome back! It's a fantastic game!
Thanks. I needed this after leaving for 8 years.
Glad I could help!
welcome back
Same
Same haha I played on the beta 9 or so years ago for 1wk and recently came back last week been playing 4+hrs daily
Ahh I see this is what you meant by that comment of future videos for people like me. Exciting, thank you! Cranking out the content, keep it up
Once you figure out what type of gameplay you are most interested in it will definitely help! Thank you for the kind words!
Nice and quick summary but you forgot the music guilds XD
Also, other possible content types or subtypes could be: world bosses runs, bounty and legendary bounty hunting, Dragon Response missions,Guild Missions, recurring festivals (SAB!), PVP Tournaments, Fishing, the Guild Hall housing system with associated crafting professions and other activities like pvp, wvw, raids and races to gather decorations for it.
Ha! I mean yes there is many different things I could have mentioned, I suppose I was trying to keep it concise!
Thank you for the kind words!
You forgot to mention one issue with the end game content, the LFG system is probably the worst in any MMO currently.
Admittedly, it isn't great, you are correct, but I will say I'm hopeful that they can improve it in the near future
Yep, it is lacking. That's why people don't use it that much for raids.There are still squads forming, but most of them are formed in discords and guilds.
For fractals, open world, strikes (normal modes) etc. the LFG is still the main way to form a party/squad.
I like it honestly. The lack of hand holding gives flexibility and makes people actually talk to each other. IMO nothing kills a community quicker than a wow style raid finder.
This. And even in you try to use, what does all the abbreveations mean? And if you found a Ggroup you need to know on wich of the 1000 maps you need to go to get the port. I love the game, but sadly it is pretty hard to get into strikes and fractals
@@EmanuelRotter See, I think if it was all self-explanatory, the community would not be half as nice and willing to help newbies as it is. If you could get by without as much as a "hi" (looking again at WoW style dungeon and raid finder), people aren't going to be very friendly on a daily basis.
If you want to start fractals, strikes, or even raids, best tip I can give you is go find a guild who does that content and is open to training up new people. Not only are you going to learn all that you need, you're also going to meet people who aren't just randoms to you to do the content with, and who knows, you might even gain new friends.
I've never seen an intro that spoke to me more clearly and pointly. I mean it's not that I *want* to play league every new patch
I tried a match the other day after a long break. Immediately remembered why I stepped away from it. . I was sweaty and mad lol
@@CaffeinatedDad I've honestly started doing ranked just to train my mental, actually trying to win without getting emotionally invested. But GW2 seems nice, looking forward to exploring and maybe do some healing in pve.
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I left gw2 many years ago and thinking of returning, but what has always put me off is that I just cannot understand how pve works. In other mmo’s I know what a tank, healer and dps are supposed to do. In GW I just have no idea what kind of build I should go for, how group composition works and what the role is of each person in the party. I remember joining fractals and having no clue, it just felt everyone was spamming skills like maniacs without any strategy. Can anyone help here? Any resources I could use to understand this better?
It varies between types of PvE content, but in general you can consider the major archetypes something along the lines of "Support & DPS", with varying levels of hybrid between. Rather than healing/tanking, a lot of content is designed around "boon uptime". There are quite a few different boons that stack up to a max - Stability (prevents players from being CC'd) needs to be applied with the right number of stacks at the right time in a fight to avoid wipes or huge DPS losses, Quickness stacks up to DRASTICALLY reduce cooldowns for teammates, Regen, Might, Fury, etc etc. You'll often find builds that are pretty focused on self-sufficient damage dealing (Power or Condition Damage Vindicator, as an example). You'll also see builds like "Quickness Herald" that aim to do as much self-sufficient DPS as they can, while sacrificing some to contribute to the Quickness uptime for the team. Then you'll find stuff that is more geared towards purely dishing out multiple boons as much as possible for the whole team.
Try checking out a build site to get an idea of what LATE game PvE can look like, or even builds for PvP. Note there are a LOT of options, and playing "the most optimal" builds is a matter of percentage points and not necessary for 95% of PvE content. Go to the website "snowcrows"!
In a very simple way, roles are like this: Either healer/alacrity or healer/quickness provider for each sub-group ( group of 5 ) then you want some DPS/alacrity or DPS/quickness to fill the hole. and rest is pretty much DPS. There is more, but alacrity and quickness are the cruicial ones. Some fights in Raids or Strikes have some special roles, like kitting or Tank/healer. Tanking is also done differenty depending on the encounter. Some dont need a tank. some the healer is the best tank. Some tank by proximity.
If you want to learn more about it I recommend looking up some guides on YT. There is more than enough of them. Some topics are even covered multiple times.
I seriously don't know why gw2 didn't stick with the trinity......what we have is kinda lame
In a sense the comments below nailed it the head. There are specifically dps and support. In pve content the most important buffs that can be offered are alacrity and quickness. Not every class/profession can offer these there is a sub group of dps or healer called boon support, which provide their other role as well as boon uptime
@@vadim6656 Having fixed roles like any other mmo would be lame tho. Not sure what you consider lame about it. The fact that you can even play a hybrid role ? Thats not lame. Thats awsome.
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ESO 2014 - 2022 , Gw2 2012 - 2015/2023, WoW 2007/2009/2016, FF14 2022. Mybest MMO Experience was Gw2, is Gw2, for gameplay, community, for skins, for story, sounds. My main problem had been endgame content in 2015 so I try ESO which I loved but the farming set, too EZ solo content, the laggy servers and the clunky gameplay, all these things ruined my pleasure. Gw2 is just about pleasure, fun, building great professions and around an action MMO with beautiful content (like many MMOs)... but this MMO makes easier to appreciate its content, ez way to be glad to be here with other people. Thanks for your work, this video and others, you help me a lot to be back :)
Absolutely! I'm happy to help! With the emphasis on horizontal content, you never feel like yoh are fighting a losing battle with keeping up! You enjoy things much more as you put it!
Any content out there to help re-learn how to play the game? Honestly I haven't played it in *years* but your channel seems to cover some of this stuff, just curious if you were planning to cover it. Thanks!
Happy to help, what content would you say you are having trouble with?
@@CaffeinatedDad oh nothing specific! I watched your thief video, and realized I don't even know how to control my character any more because it's been so long. I'm at a point where I load up the game, don't know where I am, don't know where I should start to get re-acclimated, what good builds are (or where to find them), and the few that I've googled -- I don't have some stats or something for?
Top that off, not sure how to do my combat rotations, how mounts work, etc... basically it's a "new player guide" for a person that hasn't played in forever :)
Not sure if that's something you have content for or are willing to help (I'm happy to be a guinea pig), but from one dad to another, time is limited so usually easier to get a little hand held, which is why I'm here. Great videos though, thanks!
The way gw2 end game is designed is the reason i play it. there is no pressure and there is something for everyone. When i play like World of warcraft i get bored quickly, where gw2 has so much to offer.
Wow always suffered from the treadmill and its a shame because you tp keep grinding to stay relevant. Doesn't respect your time
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great video I have a question, is it worth playing GW2 as a f2p player or is it better to play it only with the expansions? From what I'm seeing, you are very limited in the endgame as a f2p player
Yes the f2p is a bit throttled as it is meant to entice you to purchase the game. Personally if you have at least one of the expansions I think it makes it that much more worth it!
For me, when I started playing again a year or so into the pandemic, it was the whole legendary system that pulled me in. Games I played prior to GW2 were really heavy on time sink leading to good rewards (skills) that made your account and items valuable. So having these larger scale projects like legendries that take a lot of time to make with such a high reward I was hooked on that alone.
I'm OK for content like this, where you earn it overtime! And you can take breaks come back and never fall behind!
- No spoilers
- Two fcking giant dragons massively beat each other before one of them shoots a giant frost beamy-thing into the throat of the other
I bought guildwars 2 when it first came out but just could not get into it. I struggled to find a class i liked and only ever made it to about level 20. Picked it up again just the other day and having the same issue, i have made and deleted several characters, got them to around 20 then got bored and decided to try the next class. And honestly i dont know what it is about the game that just refuses to grab me, that is what makes it so odd. It seems like something i would like. I really like the charr race...that i can at least say.
Hmm personally my favorite aesthetic is with a charr engineer. It fits with lore, it works amazingly as class profession style and thematically they really did a great job of fleshing the class out!
You said no spoilers..but I feel like that giant ice dragon fighting that giant lava dragon was pretty spoilery..
I did not mention who they were nor the significance of it!
As a player who pugs Tier 4 (T4) Fractals multiple times a week, I can vouch for their fun and profitability.
Fractals is the best end game content.
The ones I've done thus far are fantastically done!
You mentioned the griffon guilds! :D (Proceeds to go tell Willow she's famous) Seriously though, if you know of the griffon guilds, you know about WIllow. Epic flyer!
Great vid. GW2 definitely has a wide range of endgame stuff to do. There's something for everyone :)
I legit asked willow if I could feature the channel. I of course wouldn't have a complete guide without mentioning the other non traditional endgame modes!
another W video cdg 👌
Hey thanks! Tbh I'm excited for Tuesdays! Going to be my largest original video!
1:14 facts
So basic dungeons (not fractals) are basically meh?
do you think there will be a new expanssion after End of Dragons?
Yes! They have confirmed already that there will be but it appears it will be smaller than EoD
As someone who has played this yeeeears ago, before even the first expansion came back, and looking to get back into the game, considering that Arena Net recently announced they will be moving into a different direction in terms of releases and whatnot, what should I buy? I mean plopping $100 for 3 expansions + living world is hardly worth it if the game will soon move to a different model that wont need that, I am a bit confused, idk what to do
Every Living World season 3 and 4 chapter is a whole map with a meta, exploration, and rewards. It might seem like a hefty price to get with the expansions, but there is so much you can do.
They have added achievements called "Return To". If you do every Living World story (LW2 through Icebrood Saga) and the achievements (gathering/event participation), you get a Legendary Amulet to be used on all your characters. You even get a lot of valuable materials and skins each step along the way.
We all are
@@elocfreidon Okay but still, if they move to a new model, will any of it be required? I dont feel like dumping money if they will remove the need for it
@@Maleficarios It won't be required to play older content. We still don't know exactly how new expansions will go. Hopefully it is just something you can buy, get into, and get the base quality of life stuff to play it in full.
If they make it so that each new one is self contained that would be pretty nice. You can get all older content if you want stuff to play if you run out of things to do but want to keep playing.
I don't think it'll devalue older content, it'll probably be smaller expansions or living world esq things. Each of the living worlds have inherent value because of either mounts, zones or features. I can't say that it is a loss for anyone purchasing!
only problem I see with Raiding is the gatekeeping. I get wanting people to know the mechanics, but most i find are demanding specific builds, dps thresholds, etc,etc. it makes it rather hard to get into the raid, and rather irksome when you have to have a specidic build that someone else deems right for it.
If you don't meet the requirements, you won't be able to complete the raid it's simple.
You can train your skills and increase DPS you don't need much time to do it but you have to want it
About two weeks ago after fractals some ele asked me about the build because I was doing 30k+ DPS after all I helped him with his rotation and after 5 minutes he increased his DPS from 10 to 20k
I'm writing this as an example that it can be done
"gatekeeping" If you have some niche build, nobody cares as long as you do your job. (providing alac/quick, dps etc. ) It also helps if you show that you know what you are doing. If you join a group and say that you will do cannons on Sabatha. Nobody will question you. But if you just stand there and say nothing. That's when people start to question your competence/build. Show them that you are there to kill the boss. Works like a charm for me.
True, and as some others have mentioned there is a certain level of difficulty getting into raids specifically as there are less and less players actually forming pugs for them. Tough indeed!
gatekeeping, this is biggest reason why I quit the game haha
can agree
best way to avoid this is get into guild and start fractals/raids/strikes
but long run its quite hard having perfect recruitment system for any mmo
because even if you recruit some random people they tend to suck ass even if they have some kill proofs
like 100 KP dude who doesnt know how pylons work
Also gw2 can have like 5 guilds.
I mean true you roll the dice with every new player unfortunately but I like to thing if there is a friendly reception and a willingness to learn they would be more inclined to stay
omg i had been playing lol for like 10 years
worst 10 years of my life :D>!
ty for mentioning......
Looool everyone has some experience with league
@@CaffeinatedDad some'' xD
ty god i found gw to quite this terrible game :
I enjoy fashion wars.
It challenged me to make a hairy maxed out nonrn MESMER with the maid outfit and prairie wings dyed electro pink and named him TINKERBALLS
but I deleted him aftee 5 hours.
Got worried might get banned.
This comment.. . Omg lol
@@CaffeinatedDad 😂
6:40 what class is this in the pvp montage?
elementalist condi weaver
Yes elementalists elite spec the weaver focusing on a condi build
just a point. I love gw2 .. but it is surviving on "end game" that is 5 years or older. the last strike we got was almost 9 months ago. (1 boss arena). The end game looked better when raids were a constant..
devs are going to add content for which people play. if no one raids, they will not add raids. look at the LFG on NA....nothing but people selling raids, no one actually trying to pug raids anymore.
@@perrystuart8035 that was many years ago, the changes they made to raid accessibility has seen more people doing raids. A lot of people do it through guilds not pugs, hence you dont see it on LFG. Also LFG is a very poorly made hence a lot of people don't use it. IF the loot wasn't crap from strikes and strike cms then people would play them more. I mean ach EoD CM only gives you one new weapon skin? AND two of them look the same xD?
@@Duneadah you are just wrong. If raiding carried as many players as you are claiming, arenanet would make more raids. fact is, most people in gw2 run around in open world all day. Which is why we only get map metas nowadays. Its basic business strategy to make products that your clientele will buy....or in this case...play.
@@perrystuart8035 Never claimed any number players.. I just said has seen MORE people doing raids and a lot of those people are not using LFG. Also look at the quality of the recent meta which is a glorified champion farm train in regards to "products that your clientele will buy". And Like I said before, the issues with raids was that it wasn't as accessible BACK then as it is now.. Back then we didn't have the variety specs, the ease of obtaining armour, emboldened mode, bonus gold and xp buff etc. You can't deny that more people are doing raids than before..
True, I don't disagree that the content certainly could be faster and it seems like arena net is doing their best but I see strikes being a heavier focus for the style of gameplay that gw2 players mostly do, which is casual!
sir how come your character is using a 2h axe ? i thought there were no 2h axe in gw2. what class is u
Some classes use staff's like melee weapons which have some bladed skins you can use.
Some hammers have the appearance of an axe
I was playing a catakyst wielding a hammer, but there is the devil rending greatax hammer skin that makes it look like a great axe
@@CaffeinatedDad @Training Addict @elocfreidon OOOhhhhh i seeeee hahahaha pardon me noobness. that is freaking awesome to hear. i just started the game 1 week ago as a revenant. i am already so hooked. Best wishes to the lot of you!!!!! and thanks for the replies
LOL, this video is literally for me.
I'm glad!
Me: man if you don't mention fashion wars, you're not truly doing end game gaming
You near the very end: fashion wars
Me: whew😂😂😂
I had to file it under non traditional endgame modes! Don't worry!
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Is that true? I just said it to be funny lol
The real endgame starts at tier 4 swampland fractal, with pugs. Hardest content in the game, no contest.
Swampland is tough even with a coordinated group lol
Should i use free level 80, I have never played before
If you are new and leveling your first character, I suggest you do NOT use it yet. I'd say level a character to max, understand the game a bit then make a more informed decision!
im gonna be honest bro, using the boost really screwed me. i got introduced to a lot of mechanics and i got overwhelmed and dropped the game 3 years ago for about 5 months, when i came back and created another character i enjoyed it more than boosting to 80 because slowly but surely i understand which currency is used for or what does this button do etc etc. so play the game until u understand it enough to make another alt to boost
pls dont its fun to lvl up and, its a game and u will miss the best experience, fun thing is what ever u do u will get xp do try it 1st with out using the boost
And it only takes like 4 days to lvl to 80
Level up your first character to see how the specialization system works. After you get used to how builds are made, it is fine to level boost newer characters with the 80 boost or tomes of knowledge. All classes are boring and don't feel good until you have access to all three trait lines and a full skill bar.
This video is the complete opposite to the current community opinion.
The end game is a mess.
The end game consists of Dungeons, Fractals which are dungeons, Dragon Response Missions which are dungeons, Strike Missions which are dungeons and raids.
The issue is that these end game play style consist of legacy features - since dungeons are no longer being supported, fractals are no longer being developed, DRM aren't being developed anymore as well, Strike missions are the current "dungeon" game mode - until these gets dropped as well
So once you hit the end game you're basically spit between so many things and each them is in the danger of being left behind and not receiving ongoing support.
So its a mess, the end game is a mess and it has been a year since they released any end game content.
This video is a nice summary but has nothing to do with the state of the endgame in 2023 for returning players
It does actually, this video in a simplistic fashion is showing what endgame content is available to players who haven't been paying attention to the state of the game over the years!
Raids > strikes by at least 100x. Why are they focusing on strikes over raids, I don't understand that horrendous decision making
simple cost/benefit analysis, really
it's only my guess but probably only 5% of the player base ever entered a raid, let's be generous and double it to 10%
costs way less man hours to redesign some story instance as a strike vs designing a full blown explorable map as raid wing with unique mobs and bosses, unique story and unique mechanics
Wayyyy more players play strikes than raids. Why would they spend money and time creating content that a tiny percent of people participate in when they can make multiple strikes that more people will play
I've been playing GW2 since it's first beta and I have a character that is a day older than the game's launch day. I have never entered a raid, and the majority of the player base is the same. probably 10% of players have and less than that do them consistently. the game should have been built around raids to begin with. GW2 is mainly suffering from Anet not choosing a better business/game model from day 1 and the publisher NCSoft basically not doing anything to support the game, ever.
There are less Raid players than there are pvp players. The majority of players don't even consider Raids to be part of the PvE experience. Strikes are only tolerable because you go right to the fights and they can end quickly. There is a reason why players form groups called "Easy 3" when strikes came out. They didn't want to do Boneskinner or Whisper of Jormag for a reason.
GW2 players don't want bone crushing difficulty. They barely want ten man instanced content as it is.
@@Aereton You're right, but it's not because people don't want to play them, it's because it takes a lot of time to learn and over the years arena net has done nothing to help new and inexperienced players get started with this content.
What I don't like about arena net is that they give up immediately instead of doing anything to improve what they created, they do something new and so they waste their time and ours for constant changes always leaving halfway there
Returned 2 weeks ago and I admitted that I still have no clue of what to do.
The map is so difficult to comprehend and the fog of war makes it so difficult to navigate between maps.
The mount upgrade that ties to achievement is ridiculous. I cannot proceed my story line because my raptor cannot jump high enough.
The hero point is so fucking difficult to earn. Unless you run and open the whole map. I want to unlock new classes but need to start running around difficult maps to earn sufficient points.
The party finder is totally useless. There are not many players queuing which make it unwelcoming to new players.
There are so many flaw in this game. Not to mention the ridiculous game mechanics in dungeons.
Unfortunately if I'm to be honest, it sounds like this game isn't for you. And that's OK! I enjoy it as many others do but life's to short not to play something you enjoy!
Basically fractals still do no good other than requring infusion to resist agony. Strategy wise nothing changes, no better gear hidden beyond high level instances, or rather, skill level.
Yeah pve on this game is still as dull as ever
Well to be sure, they are focusing mainly on strike missions as the way forward with some emphasis on fractals. But yes horizontal progression remains their mainstay
Three kids under five? Someone's doing more than playing Guild Wars 2...
Caffeinated dad indeed!
"Raids was considered at the time the greatest addition to their end game." Which was only ever attempted once by 10% of the player base. More people touched and stuck with Fractals, specifically five man content. Raids aren't considered successful which is why Strike Missions replaced them. However, since it is still ten man content, players don't want to play it.
GW2 has a player base that prefers map metas that can be jumped in quickly or content that can be tackled by a few players. We'll see what becomes of Strike Missions.
It's all about time if I only have an hour a day to play then I won't waste that time collecting 9 people for raids I will do LFG and spend 5 minutes looking for a team to do all fractals t4.
The situation would be different if raids had auto matchmaking or the public version.
Even on dedicated discord, the time to create a team is 30 minutes and then there is still time to finish a given wing another ~ 30 minutes
There are MMOs which has a good Raid experience and if a player wants to Raid they better play those other MMOs. In GW2 raids and lfg horrible too much time consumed especially for me as a solo player and it is like a job if ever I join discord and training groups.
@@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu Training groups are a nightmare but once you get past the learning period you only need to play on Monday to do all the raids under 4 hours once you know the boss mechanics.
Of course, you don't have to play only on Monday reset, it's just the most convenient for most of us
@@CZcamsChillZone The LFG definitely needs an overhaul that includes match making. Fractals is where it's at right now and would benefit more from this.
@@elocfreidon That might help, but in 2015, not now when the raid population is close to zero.
I think the only thing that could reverse this state of affairs is the announcement of a new wing and a completely new LFG system with the option of auto join or just public map.
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Would have liked some actual 100 vs 100 wvw gameplay in the footage. It's okay if you enjoy roaming more, but it kinda gives a skewed perspective. Crushing through an unsuspecting enemy backline in a melee zerg ball is what keeps gw2 alive for me.
I attempted to find larger fights but I couldn't after running around for a while.
I have only been in a few death balls and they are great fun!
@@CaffeinatedDad Yeah can be tough to find decent large-scale fights depending on your server's activity and your time zone. Cheers for the reply!
Hard pass, game is bad, graphics are horrible.
Lol "graphics are bad".
You don't have to like it the graphics are from 2012, it's normal that you won't find miracles in this area we play it because there is no rat race gear treadmill and gamplay is the best on the market that's all that matters
I disagree with that statement but to each there own!
@@elocfreidon The graphics could use an update but they certainly aren't bad the art style still pops to the point is the gameplay and the actual fun this MMO gives at a place of your own choosing vs the rest of the greedy nonsense out there. Now gw2 certainly has it's flaws because of greed go but the other companies are far worse when you actually weigh the pros and cons the game is totally worth it until something truly better comes along.
Why are you searching videos about the game then? Sounds like you're just commenting to try and start an argument that you'd lose if you actually engaged in.