BATTLETECH: The GÙN
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- čas přidán 18. 01. 2023
- Perhaps one of the most fascinating looking new #Battlemech designs from the #DarkAge and #Ilclan era, is the #CapellanConfederation built #GÙN, which has a very unique, but important role in comparison to many other war assets which are used across the #InnerSphere.
A dedicated Infantry Support mech, as well as a garrison mech, this 20-ton machine was used to great effect in occupying worlds liberated from the yoke of the #ROTS / #RepublicoftheSphere. Practical, efficient, and built for a dedicated reasonable purpose, as well as being versatile due to the nature of its #Omnimech construction, this Battlemech is not something to be overlooked, despite some of its shortcomings. It is after all, a component in a combined arms force, rather than an individual duelist, or battering ram.
So, behold the true replacement for the #Flea, and perhaps even the #Urbanmech, a perfected infantry and battle armour support mech which will not be stopped by the enemies of #HouseLiao… The # GÙN.
Links to #IronWindMetals for miniatures of the GÙN:
Prime Configuration:
www.ironwindmetals.com/index....
A Configuration:
www.ironwindmetals.com/index....
B Configuration:
www.ironwindmetals.com/index....
Technical Readout Dark Age:
store.catalystgamelabs.com/pr...
#DaoshenLiao #Liao #Andurien #Canopus
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for those not in the know, only omnimechs can carry battle armor with them because the lore says their gyros are made to adapt on the spot to whatever new weight imbalance is going on due to the expected constant loadout swaps. which means that strategically the Gun was one of the smarter moves by the CCAF to support their combined arms garrisons.
Ok then that's neat. But now I wish that after an arm or a torso is blown, the mech was easier to topple. Say a check would be made after 15 damage and not 20. Or it would be harder to pass, so 20 damage but +1 difficulty bc no side torso.
Flea and Urbanmech: "Who are you?"
The Gún: "I'm you, but better."
Also one of this mech's weapons is that upon being sighted, commanders and scouts will immediately start arguing about how to pronounce its name
Hell, it looks like an omnimech locust! I love it!
Another sign that someone in Capellan space has been thinking beyond, "Dissenters will be silenced!"
Plasma helps silence all who would question the Divine Wisdom of the Chancellor! lol
@@BigRed40TECH So does a Lao Hu's LBX AC20.😱
@@theapostatejack8648 True, but the ammo is cheaper per ton (1/2 the cost of standard slug, and less than 1/3 the cost of cluster rounds. No reason to waste currency unnecessarily)
@@jamesbeard5513I mean if you want to do things the cheap way then just do it like Amaris’s mercs did in the Vatican hunger strikers, by having 2 of your stompy boys block a respective exit and then have a 3 squish em. Gravity and mech feet are free and renewable.
The config with a HPPC is kind of hilarious. "Hey I want a gun that Weighs half as much as my mech, also shove it on the arm because what is balance anyways."
*first encounter of the Gún*
"Look! Gún!"
"Yes, you have one in your hands."
"No! It is a Gún!"
"Well, really it is a rifle. But, yes a gún."
*guy one starts running away*
"Hey! You forgot your rifle!"
*Sky goes out and guy two turns and looks up to see a Gùn looming*
"Ooooooh....that's the 'Gún'. How silly of me."
Liao's modern aesthetics are really neat. Feels like there's a definite Metal Gear inspiration to a lot of their Dark Age/ilClan era machines.
Metal Geeeeaaarrrrrrr-!?
I really want a dark age / ilcan Liao box.
All thanks to guys like Iglesias, dig the more modernized look for BT
Or Even a weapon to Surpass it....... Or Underpass it, I'm not Judging.
It does look like a Mass Produced version of Metal Gear REX or a larger version of the Gekkos.
I had to take a look at this Plasma Rifle. That is one mean weapon. Extra damage against infantery and vehicles and even Battle Armor, extra heat damage against mechs. A pretty versatile weapon for a mech of this weight class. I can see why they put it in this one.
Liao Scientist: We wanted to make a better flamer. We accidentally made a PPC that sets infantry and mechs on fire.
Clammer Scientist: We wanted to make a better flamer. We made a flamer with the range of a PPC.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: with how they described how blasters work in Star wars I think I would enjoy the setting a fair bit more if they were like how plasma rifles do in BattleTech. Because last I checked they effectively have the same mechanical explanation of how they work
I have almost no familiarity with dark age/post dark age/ilclan era mechs, so its interesting to see them. I like the look of this mech, a lot. At first glance I didnt know it was a 20 tonner, and was imagining it stalking through through hills and badlands sniping with a gauss rifle or something.
Plasma weapons are so evil >_>
The HPPC hits as hard as a GR.
@@MultiKbarry Yes, I know. That doesnt change my original first impression of the visual of the design though.
That initial look reminded me of the Black Lanner, big gun in the one arm, couple smaller opposite it. I was quite surprised to learn it was a 20 tonner, and an effective one at that.
@@awlsond5367 It makes me think of the Titan from Command & Conquer
I had the same thing. I was *sure* it was heavy or even a lighter assault. Then big red said 20tonns. I actually paused and had to double take on the vid. 🫡
Dang, listening about this thing really asserts what I first envisioned when I heard of the Omni mech concept
I can't stop seeing a Locust MK II. Could be quite confusing for the enemy, seeing that mech as a Locust to find that it has much more firepower and uses quite different tactics.
it really is a Locust IIc, just in this case the c stands for capellan
YES.
I think a mommy Locust MK II fell in love with a daddy Hollander and together they made this mech.
Thank God om not the only one who sees that XD
Also kinda reminds me of the Raptor in a way.
Ok, I love everything about this thing as it ticks so many of my boxes.
One, its a Capellan mech. Suck it, you Davion shitheels.
Two, COMBINED ARMS FREAKING FINALLY! Look, Battletech is inherently contradictory and stupid about its application of military theory and why things work, but something that is designed to move with battle armor (because if you can miniaturize your deadly weapons, do it) and work with infantry and tanks, hits the right buttons.
Third, a twist on the utilitarian side of mech stuff. I love the concept of Sentinels, Urbanmechs, and other "B-side mechs." in giant stretches of territory, on freaking interstellar empires, this would be vital.
Fourth, Omnimechs. This touches on point two. It has NEVER made sense for Omnimechs (particularly for the Clans) to cost so much more. Having universal, replaceable parts alleviates supply lines, not aggravates them. Particularly when that technology has been around for decades to centuries.
Fifth...The A Config. HEAVY PPC ON A TINY MECH. Mechs as a weapon platform. Yes.
Look here, just because the greatness of House Davion causes you jealous Cappies to melt down, doesn’t mean you can run your mouth indiscriminately. If the lesser nations of the Inner Sphere had simply followed the Sword of Davion we wouldn't be dealing with this ilclan nonsense right now. In conclusion…
“May you be recognized by people in high places”
Somehow the pronunciation of the Gùn isn't the deadliest thing about it. Small, cheap mechs seem ideal for making use of omnipod tech and Endo-Steel frames as you can make use of economy of scale in supporting them. Far easier to supply en mass planet-side than mechs five times their weight and cost, though transporting a lot of them is going to eat up dropship space and limit frontline use.
Acting as a tank/infantry support really lets it shine in filling in any gap on the fly thanks to multiple configurations, and of course, it's got that traditional Capellan electronic warfare shine to it as well. Just plop on the parts you need and you've got a quick version of one of those 'oh god why does it have an AC/20' Urbanmechs with the Heavy PPC, or a Raven replacement. Just need to have the parts on-hand to outfit them, which seems a great use for local garrison storage.
It being an omnimech does give it a notable price increase. But the flexibility and ease of repair means the quality will pay for itself quickly.
It’s a bold move in the opposite direction that Omnimechs have traditionally taken as far as design cues are concerned in the IS, with modern omnis mostly being expensive flagship assault or heavy mechs, or recon/trooper mediums. Only time will tell if the CC can maintain a healthy enough industry to make this Omni-garrison trooper a success.
Love the look of this thing, I can actually se it being a potential aesthetic for real world mech designs.
sadly mechs are extremely unpractical irl and would be outclassed by tanks in pretty much every situation.
It's more or less how I designed the one I thought up for a Dieselpunk story I was working on. The lack of arms is a weakness, but it's also a practical design choice to prevent making a machine overly complicated.
It's weird to me that infantry support mechs aren't more common. So many border worlds hardly have any 'mechs at all, and urban combat is so dangerous for most, you'd think it would be great to get something light and relatively cheap for easy superiority *without* it being AT / basement bomb fodder.
That's one thing I'm loving about the new era. Combined arms FTW.
Might just be that the CCAF are the first ahead of the curve :)
One of the big problems with infantry support mechs in the succession wars this is that the only infantry they would support are standard infantry. Then after the invasion era only House Liao was interested in the concept because Battle armor fit well with large Infantry formations garrisoning many worlds the tiny House military could not assign notable mech forces other than an Urbanmech or two. Then as the technology came about they developed the Fa Shih battle armor to ride on mechs with their Mag-clamps but really no one else even bothered as they could just try and use transport vehicles and standard light and medium mech support, or just have a simple transport system with some of their local Omni-mechs, even though they would not support the Battle armor afterword.
Once again House Liao led with using a purpose built 20 ton Omni out of a need for the Battle armor more than an expensive lance of front line Omni-mechs. For House Liao this is just a natural progression to get more use out of their incredibly poor military units that will often be centered around Infantry of all types.
Nice, a lance of these with some Amazon Battle Armor clinging to it could be a excellent raiding or reaction force to support a heavier unit.
Exactly :D
I have to wonder if bumping the design up to 25 tons would have allieviated some of its weight limit issues without making it too much more expensive. A couple more tons of armor is a big deal for such a small light mech, especially one that moves at the speed of a heavy mech of the same time period.
i love the METAL GEAR vibes from this mech.... the origins of mechs in Mechwarrior universe probably was very similar to Metal gear. Would love to see a story, book, or something about the VERY first mechs ever made in the BattleTech universe. I would love to see how the first mechs TOTALLY changed the war field and made basically everything else obsolete.
Look up the Mackie, BPLs video is over an hour and covers this exact topic.
Guns? In my Battletech? It's more likely than you think.
That's Chinese for quarterstaff. Not firearms.
@@dubuyajay9964
Still more likely than you'd think.
Whoever wrote that story doesn't know the game rules as Active Probes can't detect non-battle armor infantry, this is also the case for Blood Hound models.
Someone had their cell phone on or something idk lol
Didn't see the accent and just saw a mech I assumed was named the 'gun'. And I then in short order fell in love, had my heart broken, and then... came around because this is one nifty little guy.
Gun-on-legs
Hmm... ten tons of pod space. Imagine a mini-Swayback, with eight freakin' medium lasers plus two 'extra' double heat sinks for almost the same effective cooling.
I'm not sure it would live long, but man~, what a meat grinder while in that fight.
Locust but with Blam
A Blamcust if you will?
It's blamtastic!
@@ericjohnson2024 kick back and have a Blamtini
A Slow-cust with blam
The Gun A seems like the successor to the Urbanmech, but is better in every way except armor.
This thing pretty cool, it’s as if the Cappellen looked at a Locust and said “this is nice but what if we made it better”.
It literally uses a modified Locust frame. They jsut turned it from a scout into a mobile infantry support gun.
It's interesting how the Gùn looks like a refitted and changed Locust 1E, adding something similar to a lightened PPC and using the pre-installed laser slots.
can't believe the capellans of all people actually made the Urbanmech good
The Urbanmech needed no improvement. NAY! The Urbanmech is perfection and if one falls it has been failed by it's pilot, not the other way around. The Urbies are not merely "good" there're GREEEAT!!!
Nyet, Urbanmech is fine.
the urbanmech was made in capella
Long time fan here! Love your Battletech videos!
Its (probably) not pronouced Guin or Gwyn. The Cappies like their Mandarin Chinese right? Gùn would be pronounced "Goon", but with a shortened and hardened "oo". In Chinese, this means cudgel or staff, 棍.
Thematically it also makes sense as the Gùn is an Omnimech. In Chinese martial arts, the staff is considered the most versatile of weapons; it can be a spear if thrusted, a sword if slashed, a shield if used to parry. Its also literally just a stick, used by the poorest of militia.
Source: I am Chinese.
Makes sense to me. In reference to the source statement, I'll allow it!
Just going based on this:
twitter.com/SempereCarlos/status/1615821035798155264
I don't pretend to know these pronunciations when it comes to these ones. lol
It's my fault; Big Red posted about the video on Twitter before releasing it and I said it should sound kinda like "gwin". I thought he'd already prepared the video or I would've gone into detail! But I still think it's the best way to write it in English unless you're accompanying it with a paragraph about the g that's almost a k, the weak "e" in the "ue" dipthong, the down tone... Twitter wasn't the best place to get into that.
I'm half Taiwanese. My Mandarin sucks but I suspect we say it the same way and just see it differently if written in English.
Couldn't tell you how much I adore this mech, hopefully Liao keeps up with more designs like this one.
I have to appreciate that the Capellans make another banger of a mech for a specific role.
This thing really looks like a Locust 3.
I imagine these things will just get ever more dangerous as more are built, the part swapping and nature of Omni pods makes them really good for that
It's not a Locust at all, lol
@@BigRed40TECH i know but it looks like one
Need to skip the middle years and go toward this time period, so many interesting mechs.
That Art honestly looks like a Beefier Locust. And I LOVE IT!
WHY ARE ALL OF THESE DARK AGE MECHS SO COOL. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME
I like to see light mechs that can be hard hitting. Almost as if it's saying, "How do you like that?" before scampering off lol.
The designers perfectly captured the CCAF's combat mentality. Consolidating gains and stiffening defense.
Imagine how absolutely terrifying it would be to have a lance of these mechs kitted with stealth armor on the massive-cannon-on-legs variant. It'd be like that swamp area in Elden Ring where sniper lobster monsters one-shot-kill you from wherever they are hidden.
Those lobster/crawfish aren’t too bad if you want bad go to ds1 and try to inter the city past the iron golem.
I thought this thing was a mutated Locust at first but its facinating to see yet another good design come from the Capellan Confederation. Few of their mechs are duds and the versitility of this one, in its designed roles, show just what the IS is capable of with advanced technology and none of the Clan limitations.
I'd love to be in the board room when someone decided to name the new mech Gùn. That name feels like it's getting away with far more than it should.
Also, if you're taking requests. I'd love to know more about the weapons of the IlClan/Dark Ages era, since so many of these things are new and cool.
I love the look of this thing, and your pronunciation was spot on. Thanks for this video, Red!
I am not surprised that the people who invented the AC 20 urbie have a mech that is named this xD
Jokers neutral special!
Also is this what a Urbie grows into if you leave it out in the rain and on fertile soil for a couple centuries?
Oh-ho-ho-ho! Never heard of this one before, but it sounds like my kinda ride! I honestly think that lights benefit most from omnipods, due to their limited weight options.
I like this one a lot. Speed’s an issue, but there’s way around that if you’re smart and aware of that limitation, I reckon.
This thing looks so good, I really want it to have a 35 ton 'mk 2' variant with way better stats but essentially the exact same visual design.
This sounds like the modern day Stryker MGS, to be replaced by the MPF. Both are for infantry suppport.
This video just got me to buy this off ironwinds. Damn/thank you for inspiring to collect more mechs!
Thank you for your labor sir we love mechs
Love how the core frame bares a resemblance to a locust just with beefed up shoulders and weapon arms.
Frigging love these things , I own 4 I take them all the time
Looks like the is cutting out a niche for himself by covering Dark Age equipment before most in the community.
I cover all different eras. I cover Dark Age stuff too inbetween TRO entries to get some of it covered, otherwise it'd be years before I talked about it.
I don't know if you've noticed yet but most people have a distinctive almost hatred for the dark age because of various stupid things they apparently tried to do the way they talk about it
@@BigRed40TECH Yeah but you’re pretty much the biggest one that goes beyond the Civil War.
@@robrib2682 I've had people shout this at me, yes.
@@MultiKbarry I just cover a ton of stuff. I don't really limit my coverage to one era, that's all. lol
After watching this video, I'm getting the three versions of the mech! Only thing left is to decide whether to paint them in FWL, or Gray Death Legion colors!
I LOVE THE LOOK OF THIS MECH IT FALLS UN MY TOP 5 FAVORITES
Forebrain: okay, look. I know. I know what it looks like... But it's pronounced Gwyn.
Monkey Brain: GUN. GUN. GUN. GUN.
Forebrain: whatever. I tried.
Nice light mech.
What a neat light mech.
I want to have a lance of these mechs supported by mechanized infantry so badly.
I like to think this mech came about like some dudes are smoking and just hanging in their garage out and the Chancellor just kicks down the door with a bag of money and body guards and throws the money at them and screams I want a omni mech and one of them says...uhhhh we got a locust does that count and he just screams you Herd me and storms back out
Thank you for taking the extra time to hunt down and include all of the extra links in the description!
Love this design, Locust with big gun! And Apple still exists in the future?! I bet that targeting computing has a million dongles handing out of proprietary ports.
The committee couldn't agree on a name so, gun.
love the coverage of modern mechs. Keep it up
"and if that don't work, use more gun" - Tauren concordat wisdom
Capellan had to make do with what they had for so long when they able to produce new ones they tend to be pretty effective.
The Chancellor approves of your attention to detail, citizen! Great Video as always, Red.
From a distance, it really looks a Locust huffing the Big Juice.
The Gùn is a superbly-armed and equipped light 'Mech in all its configurations, but it's as slow as a Hornet, can't jump, and has even less armor. As infantry support it can do its job very well, but I do not expect to hold up if it's ever pushed into frontline service against anything near a peer foe-while it can hit hard and the B's electronics package is fantastic, even a Locust should be able to hunt down and kill it. Its small cockpit and XL gyro also make it harder to pilot and easier to disable, not good to deal with. It can at least withstand a single medium laser shot to everywhere but its rear, but a large laser shot anywhere will go internal. Except with some very clever teamwork, if, say, Lyrans send Commandos and Wolfhounds after the Gùns I'd expect a massacre, and not in the CCAF's favor.
Looks kinda like a inner sphere version of the black lanner
Poor man's black lanner lmao (inner sphere still hasn't discovered aerodynamics it seems + kapellan joke)
The Black Lanner is very much a different design principal lol
A mini Black Lanner at best ...better a Fire Moth for me.....
They have completely different architecture and role. The only thing comparable is reverse joint legs and the right arm.
Ah, the mighty LOLcust (I mean Locust with Heavy PPC, which Gun variant A matches very well). :D
Great to see BT CZcams channel be listening more often. Also I am the one running the Sunrise Table Top Showdown
How've you been Curtis?
@Big Red 40k I been good great work on the channel keep it up. So you play ghe game could we possibly see you at the event in May
@@curtisschwabe4416 Unlikely, I actually work 7 days a week sadly. I have a few goals I want to meet for the channel before I start loosening up, but atm. I just work. I wish I had more time just to play the game even, as I'm rusty as hell at the moment, but it's just what it is.
@Big Red 40k well keep up the good work if you could help me a little bit be great if I could get a shout out for the Tournament. In return I can put your logo and link to your channel on my website to let people click on your channel
House Liao knew exactly what they want when they make the Gun. If they wanted speed and more armor, an XL engine would have gotten them that.
But instead the GUN uses a standard engine.
And it is not like House Liao lacks money either (look at ALL those XL engine heavies and assaults Lao Hu, Thunder, Yu Huang etc).
But standard engine mechs are actually a lot more durable, so the 3.5 ton armor might be deceptive and not to mention a lot easier to maintain.
Especially if the mech is attached to an infantry unit or planetary garrisons which may not have the best tech support.
Unveiling the prototype to stockholders: Presenting the Gnu! Wait that's not right.
I'm more surprised someone else knows about this thing and infantry support mechs.
It is the battle armor taxi of Doom!
I saw the accenting on the "u" and I knew the mech couldn't have been called "The GUN", but that's what I thought when I first saw the thumbnail. And I was convinced I was looking at a Locust 1E.
Form and function. What more could you want in a battlemech?
a wet bar
Who needs courage when you have a GÙN?
Hm, was going to suggest it looks a lot like a tiny rifleman, but after a second look it looks IMHO more like a Locust with different arms/weapons. And gee, with ARTILLERY support they took out some industrial mechs, vehicles and infantry? How wonderful! ;) ROFL: "total liberation" at the cost of total enslavement. . . Yeap.
A mech I knew little about but now rather like! Must get myself a Liao lance in the future🤔
I like this narrative style so much more than Tex and his Dad Jokes Legion. Keep it up!
Thanks! It is just a very different approach though, I think Tex does great work. :)
I like taking it a bit more seriously, for the most part. There are still a few tongue-in-cheek videos like the Urbanmech and the Hoplite, but overall I approach things like this.
Imagine mounting a Heavy PPC on a 20 ton mech. Dark Age stuff is wild.
Considering I can only spell gun on my American keyboard, I believe the name suits it well considering it looks like a gun on legs pretty cool.
I'm trying to be sparing as I begin to collect some post-3080 Mechs, since I have so many from previous eras already, but a Gun will almost certainly be among them. I love it's look, almost like a mini Argus. Though let's be honest, that's what the original Argus mini is already.
I want 4 of them tbh. 1 of the electronic ones, 1 of the heavy ppc ones, and 2 of the standard plasma rifle ones.
Wait... did you say heavy ppc on a 20 ton mech?
Yes
Interesting little guy. Here's hoping many of them make grist for the mill as they probe the Unnamed Empire.
Not a bad little mech. Darn thing can be an infantryman’s worse nightmare or a decent ambush scout. Not bad cappellans not bad at all.
House LIao was my house, way back in the beginning, because all of the others were taken.
Have not played since then, late 80s and early 90s so there is so much new stuff to wrap my head around. I'm in New Zealand so we're on the back end of everything. There were mentions of the Clans coming at the end, but after high school all of my mates had moved on so there was no-one to play, so no need to keep with it on a limited income.
Yea mate, I feel that. It's one reason why I'd not want to move to NZ, despite being a dual citizen. It's just got such minimal access to things. :\
Wow, so it is basically a better Urbanmech. I love it already!
The Gùn, the IFV of the mech variety
Nice looking upgraded locust Hope you do a video on the Gambit and the havoc those 2 are my favorite dark age era light mechs And in fact are 2 of my alternate favorite mix of all eras and weights
So, the capellans made what is effectively an oversized locust, called it "gun" but spelled diffefently, and noone is meme-ing on it?! Seriously, this thing got potential!
It's a Flea more than a Locust to be fair.
@@BigRed40TECH yeah.
I deploy Gun, prepare to meet Blake!
There's three types of people.
Those who call it the Gun.
Those who call it the Goon.
And those that call it the Gwen. (As you should.)
And then there's me, who didn't know how to pronounce it and called it the "Thicc Locust."
Seems like a good mech, does have one major flaw. Was made by Capellans, no amount of versatility can fix that blemish. = P
thisn is one of the models i am not knowledged in at all. picture me very intrigued sir
I'm glad!
@@BigRed40TECH the mech is pretty amazing. Like an omnitech urbanmech. No need for banzai charges if you can take anything you need and not swarm ac20 zergrush.
I'm unsure what I am to take from this based military tech point. 40k kinda makes me favor the urbanmech way. I'll be honest. 🫡
@@wiaf8937 Urbanmechs are pretty not great imo. lol
@@BigRed40TECH in the tabletop? I was referring to lore. Wasn't it amaris who used swarms of urbanmechs as a last resort kinda weapon? Im pretty sure Tex spoke about it in one of the lectures :D
@@wiaf8937 I don't think the Urbanmech is very good in tabletop, or really anywhere else lol
Good video, four out of five 😊
Legion 3 to Legion Lead, ive got radar lock on something that looks like a Locust, smells like a Locust.....
Legion Lead: But does it taste like a Locust?!
*Legion 3 gives it a taste of 4 KR ERPPCs*
Legion 3: Indeed it does taste like locust
*A pair of legs and a gyro stands smoking, where a whole Gun used to be.
By the way, what was that? It looked pretty well armed for such a small mech
No idea, rejoin formation and proceed with the patrol
Thank you, Red!
Welcome!
Looks almost like an energy focused, miniature Argus. I kinda like.
It seems like a reasonable build.
I LOVE the Gun.
The minis link is... a nice touch. Would be an excellent advert system for the intended market of btech minis, now that i think about it
It would be lol
I include it just because people will otherwise ask where they can get it a lot of the time. It's just easier this way :)
It's like a light Black Lanner with neither the boom or the zoom.
I like this mech because I know exactly what to expect from its name. Gun. Maybe even 2.