Vienna 1913: The Surprising Hotspot for Massive Historical Figures

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  • čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
  • Vienna attracted a huge number of artists, great thinkers, and future revolutionaries. In 1913 some of these included Tito, Hitler, Freud, Stalin, and the Rothschilds. They all walked on the same streets, drinking in many of the same places, like the legendary Viennese coffee house, Cafe Central...
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Komentáře • 125

  • @DarkLordoftheMeme
    @DarkLordoftheMeme Před 3 lety +72

    Imagine if Stalin bought one of Hitler's paintings, forgot about it and now it's lying around in some backroom of the Kremlin unnoticed.

    • @joycejames8461
      @joycejames8461 Před 3 lety +8

      If he'd had any sense he would have bought one by Gustav Klimt.

    • @jagdpanther2224
      @jagdpanther2224 Před 3 lety

      Hitler's skull might be in Kremlin, Putin knew where it is!

  • @lilykep
    @lilykep Před 3 lety +21

    So basically if you become a time traveling assassin 1913 Vienna is the place to be.

    • @ElonMasks
      @ElonMasks Před rokem

      Yes. All you need is a nuclear time bomb that can wipe out the entire city

  • @roberttorres8477
    @roberttorres8477 Před 3 lety +55

    This has to be one of the greatest episodes Simon has done

  • @ZuggiDnB
    @ZuggiDnB Před 3 lety +27

    I lived in Vienna for a year or so and used to regularly frequent Cafe Central. Stunning building, great cakes, heaps of history. They don't mention Hitler too much in their information pamphlets funnily enough.
    Great video, really enjoyed it.

  • @minagica
    @minagica Před 3 lety +32

    Wow, that Alma doll is kinda creepy

  • @joewilson8701
    @joewilson8701 Před 3 lety +21

    When your list of important people starts off with Hitler at the bottom, its bound to be an excellent list!

  • @gavinjones3933
    @gavinjones3933 Před 3 lety +7

    Adolf Loos, Robert Müsil, Arnold Schönberg, Ludwig Wittgenstein etc etc... you could go on for years on this one. Extraordinary time and place.

  • @coolnegative
    @coolnegative Před 3 lety +4

    Apparently one of the reasons lack of acceptance by the art community, and a harsh critique by a member of the Bauhaus was a major factor in his closing of Bauhaus and other art institutions.

  • @jannetteberends8730
    @jannetteberends8730 Před 3 lety +10

    This was a very interesting video. Liked the idea of the cafe as common factor.

    • @marjieestivill
      @marjieestivill Před 3 lety

      I love the cafe perspective also so much, hoping for more like this one, looming at artists and intellectuals from Istanbul to Paris, fomenting remarkable cultural transformations to help us cope with modern society.

  • @Ninja_Geek
    @Ninja_Geek Před 3 lety +8

    Have you thought of doing a video on the top 10 inventions that were seen as failures/disappointments/impractical at the time, but also introduced concepts that later became fairly standard or were the bases of a modern(ish) standard? For example, the Great Eastern and it's double hull which is now standard on large ships.
    I guess another way to word it is 10 inventions that laid the groundwork for future successes.

  • @elenaperez8873
    @elenaperez8873 Před 3 lety +6

    Would be difficult and probably would have to focus on one branch but an episode about the Rothschild's would be amazing.

  • @marjieestivill
    @marjieestivill Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you, Jon Lucas, for providing a succinct view of the remarkably transformative intellectual foment in 1913 from 1890-1915 Vienna. I’m going to check the Simon Empire of channels like Geographics and Biographics to see if you have any others similar to this one for luminaries of European music, literature, art and architecture of the late 1800’s and early 1900’s in Paris and Vienna. Wild times!

  • @plurpee.
    @plurpee. Před 3 lety +6

    I've been to that café, but I had no idea they had hung out there...

    • @chimarleywai
      @chimarleywai Před 3 lety +4

      When I was there I had to remind myself not to call it the hitler cafe in front of the waiter.

  • @HFFCANADA
    @HFFCANADA Před 3 lety +3

    Quite astounding, like how Hannibal met Scipio in the East at a party and actually had some dialogue.
    Small world huh

  • @mammuchan8923
    @mammuchan8923 Před 3 lety +1

    Kudos Simon this was a fascinating video. I live for this kind of random info, and besure one day when this comes up as a quiz question I am going to send the credit to you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @keryeeastin4022
    @keryeeastin4022 Před 3 lety +1

    I love watching all your material. I dont have tv but i watch you everyday. Keep it up 😍

  • @jojo-pk
    @jojo-pk Před 3 lety +7

    I'll never get used to the way English speaking folks pronounce Rothschild. In German it's pronounced more like "rohtshield" (there's no "th" sound in German, "sch" is similar to the English "sh", "i" is pronounced like a short "e")

  • @thegunslinger1363
    @thegunslinger1363 Před 3 lety +5

    Just imagine if Stalin and Hitler. Had just bumped into each other?

    • @beaufield
      @beaufield Před 3 lety +1

      They bumped at each other about 28 years later. A few people including Hitler died after that bump 😆

  • @bupe007
    @bupe007 Před 5 měsíci

    The cafe was the place to be. Not only Café Central, there are 20 others in Vienna (Griensteidl, Prückl, Sperl....numerous...) . It´s the place where there is a telephone, newspapers and people and friends, who discuss about politics. And you get drinks and food. Plus freedom of speech.

  • @pakde8002
    @pakde8002 Před 3 lety +2

    Gustaf Klimpt is my favorite Austrian. Please do a video biography of Michelangelo Caravaggio🙏🙏🙏
    He was a genius and had a wild life that I believe your viewers will enjoy learning about.

  • @patrickhasachannel
    @patrickhasachannel Před 3 lety +1

    I loved Vienna. I went around Easter, so the Ostermarkt were a treat. It's a city that deserves a month in my opinion.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 Před 3 lety +4

    So Hitler and Stalin may have shared a table together at one point.🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @jagdpanther2224
    @jagdpanther2224 Před 3 lety +2

    Hitler and Stalin knew each other in Vienna, 1913! Their friendships end up in a very deadly duel due to a conflict of ideologies: the eastern front 1941~1945!

    • @afrules9097
      @afrules9097 Před 2 lety

      That war was planned anyway. And Hitler and Stalin didnt fight, they sacrificed their populations.

  • @CosRacecar
    @CosRacecar Před 3 lety +4

    Trotsky didn't like Stalin because Stalin took something Trotsky created and gave him no credit for it? How ironic.

    • @rfvtgbzhn
      @rfvtgbzhn Před 3 lety

      This is not really the reason, it's an urban legend. Actually the real reason why Trotsky didn't like Stalin is kinda mentioned a few minutes earlier in this video: he noticed that Stalin was an unremarkable, but dangerous man.

  • @jpmojo
    @jpmojo Před 3 lety +3

    Felt like the sixth degrees of Hitler, Stalin, or Trotsky

  • @jimmiedmc1
    @jimmiedmc1 Před 3 lety +9

    I wish you would stagger your primiers so they come out one at a time it's hard to pick which one to watch first

  • @theobjectionablethinker1763

    Is it wrong for part of me to wish a city killer asteroid would have hit Vienna in 1912 the lives it would have saved 🤔 if only

    • @NathanCassidy721
      @NathanCassidy721 Před 3 lety +6

      I’m not.
      Because there is no guarantee that their actions wouldn’t manifest in another form.

    • @swftwlly
      @swftwlly Před 3 lety +1

      OK, but hold off until 1913 when my father emigrated from Wien to Chicago.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Před 3 lety +4

    I wonder if anything will happen in Vienna in 2021

  • @shackdaddy7106
    @shackdaddy7106 Před 3 lety +2

    One of the Simon’s best episodes and he has had a lot of great ones. But his beard is starting to get out of control.😀😀😀😀

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Před 3 lety

    Amazing 😻 video

  • @wf8556
    @wf8556 Před 3 lety +1

    I like these videos. Especially this one because I live in Vienna. Thank you!!
    But I have to make a small comment. Franz Ferdinand was the nephew of Franz Josef.

  • @RemetaD
    @RemetaD Před 3 lety +2

    I bet there was some waiter who was serving all of them.

  • @matthewgabbard6415
    @matthewgabbard6415 Před měsícem

    The irony being that you need a cosmopolitan society for that to even be possible. I try to make sure my students understand that places like that are very rare in history. A very fragile thing that has to be protected

  • @russellfitzpatrick503
    @russellfitzpatrick503 Před 3 lety +1

    Oh, Vienna

  • @jonrolfson1686
    @jonrolfson1686 Před 3 lety +1

    Imagine, if you can, a world in which Adolf Hitler is vaguely remembered as a kitschy early 20th century mittel-europäisch ‘Painter of Light.’

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Před 8 měsíci

    Radical centrist time traveler: So anyways, I started blasting

  • @benmcclarnon9174
    @benmcclarnon9174 Před 3 lety +7

    Imagine a world where vienna fell to the ottomans or ghengis khan its an old city that had been through a lot but it never fell if im misteken please let me know but to the best off my knowledge it never fell and a lot off diffrent kingdoms and people tried to take vienna but as it was budded the gateway to europe.... we actually united in defending vienna when we where not killing each other off course

    • @GutnarmEVE
      @GutnarmEVE Před 3 lety

      looking at the city's demographics, the 3rd siege seems to have been a success :p

  • @enigmusII
    @enigmusII Před 3 lety +3

    Naming Alma Mahler without mentioning Tom Lehrer's obiturary tribute is a bit of a missed opportunity.

    • @Bacopa68
      @Bacopa68 Před 3 lety +2

      There's a idea. Top ten musical parody artists other than Weird Al.

  • @michaelellis2313
    @michaelellis2313 Před 3 lety +2

    It can't be a list without Betty white, shes 98 years old I'm pretty sure humans will consider her an important historical figure 100 years down the line

  • @robanybody4064
    @robanybody4064 Před 3 lety +2

    Stalin also tried to have Tito assassinated multiple times, albeit unsuccessfully.

    • @rfvtgbzhn
      @rfvtgbzhn Před 3 lety +2

      And funnily Stalin also brought Tito into power by having assasinated over a dozen of his components. Tito was known as an avid Stalinist before he betrayed Stalin, which he didn't do because of ideological differences but because he wanted more power for himself.

  • @maximkammerer2813
    @maximkammerer2813 Před 3 lety +1

    "Servus" from Vienna!

  • @Willy_Tepes
    @Willy_Tepes Před 3 lety +3

    Today the place is called "The internet".

  • @Smart-Sports
    @Smart-Sports Před 3 lety +2

    The next video should be Simon's CZcams channels

    • @brianpetre1343
      @brianpetre1343 Před 3 lety

      "Franz Ferdinand saw the weakness in his father's empire." Franz Josef wasn't his father... Simon, you are my favorite youtuber. Come on... You can do better than that.

  • @Ramiro.salcido
    @Ramiro.salcido Před 3 lety

    Simon you should do an episode on the land disputed in Texas after Mexico defeated the settlers that claimed Texas land that belonged to Mexico at the time.

  • @dudepool7530
    @dudepool7530 Před 3 lety +3

    So, when do we get a video on Istanbul? Or is it Constantinople? Or is it Istanbul? I want to know the business of the Turks!
    *Even Old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why they changed it, I can't say. People just like it better that way!*

    • @joycejames8461
      @joycejames8461 Před 3 lety

      Byzantium -> Constantinople -> Istanbul.
      We'd all like to know why Constantinople got the works but that's nobody's business but the Turks.

  • @Nachos237
    @Nachos237 Před 3 lety

    I would what city is the modern equivalent

  • @deepwaters7242
    @deepwaters7242 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for mentioning Tito. He is still loved and celebrated here in the Ex-Yugoslav area. He really touched the hearts of the people here.

  • @cojaysea
    @cojaysea Před 3 lety +1

    The laboratory of the apocalypse

  • @Albinoafroman316
    @Albinoafroman316 Před 3 lety +2

    Did they base "friends" off this cafe?

    • @ecec4642
      @ecec4642 Před rokem +1

      Wow that mashup would be ……… interesting?

  • @randomgamer3978
    @randomgamer3978 Před 2 lety

    They didn't realize all of them will fight

  • @joannapolowy4647
    @joannapolowy4647 Před 3 lety +2

    Ferdinand was a nephew.

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    That seems to be such that a hotspot

  • @franklefebver5650
    @franklefebver5650 Před 3 lety +1

    Redrum...4 all

  • @nihilistzero8066
    @nihilistzero8066 Před 3 lety

    1913 was also the day the the united states died and the united states of america corporation was born thanks to the creature from Jekyll island.

  • @kendracrippen
    @kendracrippen Před 3 lety +1

    Number of likes when I watch this video- 666
    Fitting number for the opening joke.

  • @talegunrdav
    @talegunrdav Před 11 měsíci

    If someone wanted to go back in time and whisper in a lot of peoples ears, 1913, Vienna would be the spot. I wonder what the devil was doing that year

  • @minagica
    @minagica Před 3 lety +5

    Stalin and Trotsky: the opposite of love at first sight

  • @marcbeebee6969
    @marcbeebee6969 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video. Simon at 4 you should have mentioned Frankfurts golden walkway stones with the ingraved dates when the nazi criminals deported jewish families from individual houses.

    • @Rosemarie-YouTube-
      @Rosemarie-YouTube- Před 3 lety

      Bc of your comment I had to Google this. I'd never heard of this project, & also learned some countries are against the idea since your replacing the previous walkwY with memorial stones hence people now walk all over them when the purpose is to memorialize the last free place they were. What do you think about that part? Is it sacreligious to have people walking over the stones or should they be protected in a way that keeps people's feet off of them, & many people find it disrespectful to walk on rhem. What do you think about that part?

    • @marcbeebee6969
      @marcbeebee6969 Před 3 lety

      @@Rosemarie-CZcams- come here please you will see l, they shine bright and you can only not see them of you a ignorant. A few steps further is the big synagogue under very heavy Police protection. Every body is very welcome Here. Love from Frankfurt, germany

  • @wyomingprepper8283
    @wyomingprepper8283 Před 3 lety

    Bit vague on the roths...

  • @RemetaD
    @RemetaD Před 3 lety

    Why would it be surprising?

  • @jakejake708
    @jakejake708 Před 3 lety +1

    No videos on 2 cent hangovers, when ppl slept on a tight rope standing up

    • @Rosemarie-YouTube-
      @Rosemarie-YouTube- Před 3 lety

      Huh?? I need more info... "Sleeping standing up while on a tightrope" is called a '2 cent hangover' or are these two different things?

  • @did4h2k
    @did4h2k Před 3 lety

    bec oida!

  • @Rog5446
    @Rog5446 Před 3 lety +1

    Yes, it was interesting, especially the awful mispronunciations of Daimler and Giacomo (Puccini)
    Daimler is pronounced Dame-ler and not Dime-her. Giacomo is pronounced Jack-omo Gee-ak-omo.

  • @gonefishing167
    @gonefishing167 Před 3 lety +1

    Very interesting 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Před 3 lety +2

    a veritable crossroads

  • @stephmaccormick3195
    @stephmaccormick3195 Před 3 lety +1

    Tito was not a dictator. He was a liberator. Learn your history, Simon.

    • @afrules9097
      @afrules9097 Před 2 lety

      Tell that the people who died in his concentration camps, mainly germans who lived there since the reconquest from the ottomans.

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Před 3 lety

    I think I understand.
    I notice this aggressive behaviour.
    When people come to a a great multicultural melting pot in London from minor countries and provincial places, they feel a deep anger and hatred.

  • @atillakas2504
    @atillakas2504 Před 3 lety

    Unfortunately you forgot to mention Stefan Zweig. He is one of the most popular writers.

  • @sayonarasabino727
    @sayonarasabino727 Před 2 lety

    O café de lá devia ser muito ruim.🤐

  • @castadivanorma8478
    @castadivanorma8478 Před 3 lety

    Puccini is not the greatest italian opera composer.Verdi was...by all accounts..

  • @krazyhorse448
    @krazyhorse448 Před 3 lety

    I just went down the rabbit hole on why do the English seem to love adding an "Er" Or Ker to words. AmericaKER, Obama'ER, and the end of words. Is this just a blatant disrespect? I notice they don't have a problem with not saying ER to Putin but, when it comes to the US, I know the south USA is special, so do certain English share that in-ability? I'm not trying to be insulting, I just want to understand.

    • @Bacopa68
      @Bacopa68 Před 3 lety +1

      They drop r's where they should be and put in r's where they shouldn't be. There are a few places in the US they do this too. It's weird, since I speak a strongly rhotic US dialect with strong back vowels.

    • @jonrolfson1686
      @jonrolfson1686 Před 3 lety +1

      One theory suggests that aberrant intrusive rhoticism, which pervades some of the dialects of anxiously, hopefully aspiring English petite bourgeoisie, is just the understandable (and hardly worthy of mention) result of a widely-spread, nearly pathological fear that one might be wrongly thought to have orally released an irredeemably déclassé glottal stop.

    • @krazyhorse448
      @krazyhorse448 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jonrolfson1686 You tried too hard to use high English, without saying much of anything. But thanks for participating. You're mastery is impressive. Cheers.

    • @krazyhorse448
      @krazyhorse448 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Bacopa68 True, Being in Virginia I have found that I can understand dialects from many parts of the US, and the UK, where friends of mine have no clue. I've seen shows with Sub-titles from Scotland and I ask why? I can understand them, but I guess many can't here. My late wife was German, I wonder if they can't understand each other as well, speaking the same language.

  • @PotNoodle54
    @PotNoodle54 Před 3 lety +2

    first wow

  • @danielernst8836
    @danielernst8836 Před 3 lety +2

    First

  • @jimmccauley2424
    @jimmccauley2424 Před 3 lety

    How about a TOPTENZ differences between the KKK and the BLM?

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Před 3 lety

    Stalin killed Trotsky and Hitler and Tito killed Stalin
    lol 😝