What Went Wrong With Katy Perry's "Witness"
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Welcome back to Pop Dissected! Today we're going to be taking a look at what exactly led to the sour reception of Katy Perry's fourth record - Witness. We're going to explore the criticism she faced from the public, as well as her own personal struggles she revealed during this era.
I'd like to let everyone know this is not a hate video. I am a huge KatyCat, and have been a fan since 2010. I want to clarify this video is taking an analytical look at the "Witness" era, and speculates what went wrong; why people dismissed the record, and why people seemed to jump on a bandwagon of hate towards Katy.
As a longtime KatyCat, Katy means a lot to me, and it's important for not only the fandom, but for others as well, to understand what Katy struggled with, and went through as an individual.
If you agree, disagree or want to discuss more, I encourage all to leave constructive comments down below! Whether you love Katy, or you aren't a fan - let's all be respectful and take time to understand other's opinions.
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Let’s be honest, a HUGE part of her departure from success is that she stopped writing songs with Bonny McKee. They had captured magic in a bottle.
Yes!
I believe it's since she stopped working with Dr Luke
There was also the head shave and the fact she was promoting Hilary Clinton right as a critical mass was being built behind Donald Trump.
@@lynnmac6295 ctfu hahaha
@@stealthis and promoting canabalism and illuminooooti agendas
”4 years is a really long time for a new era”
Fergie: hold my flop
OOP!
Melanie Martinez: Hold MY flop
A m n x s i a
K-12 did a LOT better than Double Dutchess
Perfect lllusion fergies reboot was both one of the worst and one of the most forgettable albums of the decade (and all time)
Thank god nobody wanted that back
Nude Conspiracies888 I MEAN, the only MEDIOCRE songs were M.I.L.F.$., Life goes on and L.A Love. And the whole album is carried by those three damn songs, and really isn’t carried well...
"Katy Perry was the face, but Katheryn Hudson was the person."
I made a point I think 👀
@@popdissected4400 YOU DID! IT WAS AN AWESOME VIDEO!
@@acedcoffee Thank you so much!!!
@@popdissected4400 You should make more. I already subscribed to your channel 🔥
acedcoffee that's true
She had her ARTPOP era, now she needs a Joanne era (an era of healing, with a record for herself, by herself)
*Edit: Smile :)*
Agreed ❤️
Now I miss Lady Gaga damn it.
Then her AISB comes & she become relevant again 😍😍
The fact that ARTPOP is her best album and so is Witness... the 4th album era curse is real
Wow that’s good
Wish her team watches this. I love katy but it broke my heart when she said she didn't want to be katy perry anymore.
Me too. This video gets to me when I watch it. It's just so heartbreaking to know what she's gone through personally.
She's not really Katy Perry she's really Katie Hudson.
Would anyone wanna be someone where they cant go anywhere without being noticed and sexually harrased by everyone you work with in the music industry , entertainment, and everywhere else? Dont get me wrong katy perry or whatever her name is is hot as shit and id love to smash/date her but unfortunately shes fake as fuck cause of the fame..shes gotta play the game which is a shame cause im sure if she wasnt famous shed be fine...but shed still probably be sexually harrased unfortunately..but shes a human like everyone else and has feelings and has her own thoughts
..i hope she geta out the buisness alive gets her head on straight cause whem she isnt on a mental breakdown shes a gorgeous talented and funny women......which there arent many of anymore
...i love katy perry/catherine hudson.....i wish i could meet her n have a convo with her about life and being a normal person...
Im straight btw and i dont listen to alot of her songs but god bless her and i hope she gets her life together stops the illuminoooti shit gets out the buisness alive and finds peace in herself and truly finds god
@@JayBadloss1989 ....
@@hellobye.1581 yes???? Sup????
It’s so weird how people turn on artist. The same happened to Gaga with Artpop.. then Katy with Witness. Both of them paved the way and have so much success that is just over looked now. It’s sad.
It is sad! Very true statement :(
@@alysiamerdavid-wasser9165 ok boomer 🙄
Alysia Mer David-Wasser she has enough STDs anyway lol. she’s been irrelevant since the 90s.
Christian R Gaga isn’t overlooked...what rock you living under.
Alysia Mer David-Wasser Lady Gaga is nothing like what you describe there... in fact she has always insisted that she can sing and her first album is called The Fame is literally about wanting to be famous. Additionally, Gaga got her start in the NY dive bar circuit where she performed Spectacle sets, akin to the coffee shop example you give
“four years is an incredibly long time for an artist to go without entering a new era”
lorde: hold my champagne glasses
Lorde we are starving give us another album omg
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Who?
rihanna: no❤️
I think the real problem here was that what “California Girls”, “Teenage Dream”, “Last Friday Night”, “Part of Me”, “Wide Awake”, and “Roar”, all have in common, is that they were all written by Bonnie McKee. That woman penned a good chunk of Katy’s singles, and they were all hits!
Also, sad to say, but Katy’s entire discography, including some of the songs mentioned above was co-written by, and produced by, Dr. Luke. Katy only stopped working with these two people after prism, when she recorded witness. And that’s the tea. 🤷🏻♀️
PLease go listen to Katy's solo written songs like I'm Still Breathing, By the Grace of God, Thinking of You etc. if you're suggesting that she can't write good and heartfelt lyrics on her own. And no, her "entire discography" wasnt co-written and produced by Dr. Luke. She has had smash hits without him.
Sam I agree with you. All I’m saying is that there was a difference in her chart position when she stopped working with Dr. Luke, and Bonnie McKee. And between One of the Boys, Teenage Dream, the re-release of Teenage Dream, AND prism (her most successful albums) the hits/singles were either written by Bonnie/Dr. Luke, produced by Dr. Luke and or Max Martin, or both. He’s always credited as “Lukasz Gottwald”. He’s literally on almost every song of every album, except for witness.
Katy is capable of writing beautiful songs, but that’s not what the video was about, nor was my comment. The video was about why witness was not as successful as her previous work. And her previous work involved both of those people.
The same thing happened with Gaga. When she stopped working with RedOne, the quality of her music changed, and so did her position on the charts. People noticed a difference, and they didn’t like it. 🤷🏻♀️ it’s sad.
@@chriiiiisco Yeah i understand what you're saying, those albums were indeed executively produced by Dr. Luke and Max Martin, but she couldnt continue working with him after the whole Kesha case....and there are so many much bigger factors that contributed to the chart difference during witness than that, if the rollout was done properly and all the negative unexpected things mentioned in this video hadn't happened, witness era still could have been successful without Dr. Luke. The material was still there. It was her image at the time that people trashed on which affected the sales.
Bitch Please It’s absolutely impossible to know what the actual cause of her low charting was because of all the variables, but I do not believe it was because of Bonnie McKee. No one listens to a Katy Perry song because they plan to hear Dr. Luke and Bonnie McKee. Her getting into politics was just the start of the trouble.
@@peaceful_chaos14 yeah but Bonnie McKee was good.
I think what went wrong with Witness was that she was trying to get political and completely changed not only her music but her looks as well. She didn't stick to the formula that worked for her, so she alienated her old fans.
Very good point!
noemistephanie93 I agree with this whole heartedly! One thing Dolly Parton always said in her career is “ a celebrity in the entertainment industry should never put politics and opinions together”. It’s never a good combination and Katy sealed that thought when she did election duty
Mystery Person Even though there are some examples that can debunked that statement, Katy Perry is the prime example of said statement:
She got me as a new fan with witness .
Remember a true artists changes .
And she did that !
I was a huge fan of KP before she blew up with "I Kissed a Girl". I found her when Madonna said she was listening to her "Ur So Gay" song. I remember her vlogs and I even remember when she had set up a "Call Katy" line where you could call and speak to her for 1.99 a minute or something like that (now I wish I had done that!!!). I fell in love with her sense of humor early on and her ability to inject that humor into her songs. I stayed in love with her music for so long because she could make some powerhouse songs, empowering songs, she loved retro fashion and killed in it... I began to see less and less of that sense of humor but she retained it in her interviews at least. She completely changed and I no longer listen. Everything I liked about her is gone. She's not even that funny anymore. Now she's political, blonde, depressed and sad and has a split personality(?!?), and takes her music waaaayyyy too seriously. Now I listen to Taylor Swift because she is everything KP used to be! I'm sad about that for KP but it is what it is!
I actually liked Chain To The Rhythm when it was released.
_EDIT 2021: since i still get replies here, _*_#FreeBritney_*
Me too
Same
It’s such a good song!!!
G A B E it was okay but not her greatest and of course not all songs are gonna be great
i still do to this day
Katy has bad marketing team. Maybe as bad as Britney's. She should learn from Taylor's.
britney's kept her relevant for almost 15 years. katy's kept her relevant for 5
Ewwe
I don’t like Taylor but I agree w u
Just like Taylor trusted her record label?
ktgbw ... how is that relevant lol
Can we focus on the real flop which is her makeup crew. She looks like Manny MUA....
Oh yeah, her makeup during this era was 😭 Rough most of the time.
kevin M damn you cute
But even in a bad way
@@hharuaa this is much more relevant now
@@hharuaa She made an album around your comment
And now we have Harleys in Hawaii, which hasn’t charted 🥴
I still like the song
I know :( Wasn't even sent to radios either!
That's a shame. They play it on the radio in Australia.
It’s a great song though, one of my personal favorites from her ever
I don't think Katy is gonna recover. I don't think it's even her or Witnesses fault. Music has changed a lot and every late 00s and early 2010s singers are struggling.
The change was too drastic in comparaison to her other records
I agree. It just didn't work with a lot of people. "PRISM" was an evolution, but "Witness" was a 180 spin.
@@Edixim its the hair that made people hate her. Katy Perry is viewed as the sex icon in 2010s but Katheryn broke that mold people made Katy Perry to be. I think Power should've been the second single and Bon Appetit later on after the album. However, I still cant forget how Capitol missed the mark on promoting NRO. that should have been as big as Roar but nevertheless, many people regards NRO to be the summer anthem of 2019.
Honestly her decline in success isn’t shocking, every pop star experiences this at one point or another. What IS shocking was how rapid and dramatic it was. It wasn’t gradual in the slightest, she fell straight down.
It isn't usually gradual. There's something known the "fourth album curse" that after 3 successful albums, the 4th isn't well received, it's missunderstood (artists try to reinvent themselves and try new things but fail), so it eventually flops, because it's already the fourth album and the general public is starting to get tired of them. This also happened to Lady Gaga with Artpop in 2013, and many other artists. So after this era of controversy, massive critics and low comercial performences, the decline in popularity accelerates and so does the comercial success, until they're capable enough to reinvent themselves and come back with an excellent work.
Taylor Swift 's reputation was success? It was so good omg
Kind of reminds me of game of thrones. Went from a cultural phenomenon to just a forgotten relic
And till this day , Katy Perry is one of the worlds biggest pop stars without a Grammy to her name.
Facts.
She has 13 nominations though, thats still something.
Jordan From Texas getting a Grammy means nothing nowadays, I’m not a Katy fan, but there are huge artist around with no Grammy.. Katy just had nice songs and good videos, but she was always nominated with people that were better then her
She doesn’t Grammys The Grammys need her
name cannot be blanked LMAO HAHAHAHAH SORRY i just realized that😂🤣🤣 glad you remind me!
Witness flopped because the songwriting was sometimes cheesy and forced. Nonetheless, the sound and potential was there, but she didn’t know how to manifest it. Listening to Witness, I could imagine an unstoppable era with the right roll-out of songs and promotion.
I agree! I think many songs suffered from lyricism that came off very heavy handed. Miss You More would be a great track if not for the very clunky lyrics. Bon Appetit, while a great bop, had its double entendre pushed to a level that was generally uncomfortable. Deja Vu has very sub par lyricism that doesn't articulate it's theme entirely. But with that, several tracks do have very strong, confident lyrics. The promotion was a bit wonky, and the manifestation of what Katy wanted wasn't all the way there. We should have known with Witness, all of Katy's further promotion would just be terrible. I mean, speaking of 2019 - her single promotion has made no sense and hurt all her songs' potential.
Hey kids, spelling is fun!!! ♥♥♥
@@popdissected4400 Eh, I disagree. Bon Appetit and Miss You More are perfectly fine as they are, and in my opinion two of the best songs she's ever made. Excellent tracks that I still listen to regularly that I wish could have went well for her because they deserved so much. I adore those tracks, as well as Save To Draft and Pendulum. I think the lyrics were much worse on Swish, Swish and Hey, Hey, Hey. The singles suffered from that the most.
As soon as I heard Purity Ring would be writing for it, I knew it wouldn't do well. I LOVE Purity Ring so much but they don't connect well with the common audience. They're not smash-hit writers.
Raye Martin Nothing to do with the songwriting. It was her hair! Seems futile but that’s what drew off many I’m quite sure.
As superficial as it sounds, I do believe her changing her image led the decline of her popularity. Which is sad and shallow. It goes to show sex does really sell. I thought witness was a great concept, she is always unique, cute, and quirky when it comes to her visuals.
Very true! People will dismiss it and say it was solely the music, but she got so much hate for changing her appearance, and her short hair literally made her lose her appeal to so many people. It's so sad.
@@popdissected4400 yeah I agree. I think it's cause Katy was known for having that sexy pin up look with her black hair and lots of guys liked her but once she chopped off her hair, she lost them and sex appeal
My best friend always says that this stupid reaction was mainly due to her short hair and not her (in their minds) "sexy black long femenine hair" and i believe that's so true
I’m not a fan of her but after she cut her hair she seemed weird and odd. I don’t know why it was off putting.
@@1javixD I got the same vibe too.
Katy Perry: Cuts hair
People on the internet: She's cRaZy and a liBeRal.
Yikes, I dont see how anyone stays sane under the public eye. No wonder so many artists die before their time😔
Exactly. The internet is such an evil place sometimes.
If we learned anything from Felecity it's to never cut your hair.
Let's not forget Katy herself even made fun of Britney shaving her head, so really is kind of a karma. I liked Katy and even attend the Witness tour but the fact she made that tasteless joke was such a turn off.
Juan Sebastian Montoya what did she say??? :(
Yami Yugi she basically make fun of shaving her head because she hasn’t had a “mental breakdown yet”. She did that a couple of times on red carpet/ interviews, that was pretty disappointing.
Katy Perry's story sounds like Alice Cooper all over again. When Vincent Fournier created his alter ego Alice Cooper, he never imagined that his alter ego would take over full time. Especially as Alice Cooper was a hard-drinking, very dominant persona, Vincent Fournier got lost in his own creation and it took him years of breakdowns and therapy you find himself again.
Katherine Hudson created Katy Perry, a very bubbly and overtly sexy persona, very different from the far more reserved and troubled Katherine. When she felt Katy became too dominant she tried to course-correct, but the fans wouldn't have it and critisized her for suddenly being "pretentious" and "not true to herself", while in reality the opposite was true. Yet another example of the dangers of creating a stage persona or alter ego and then almost constantly living that alter ego, because it can cause severe trouble when that alter ego actually takes over control.
Jesus Christ. Wow...I have no words.
Towards the end, even Elvis Presley got tired of being "Elvis".
Ke$ha was nothing like her glittery persona either.
Then we have Eminem/Slim Shady.
I wonder how many other artists have this issue.
She flopped mainly because of how she went from having this popstar image to coming across as a cringey grown-up, also the industry shift was a key point. I think what you stated in the video is correct, but would apply better to Kesha's case.
Katy just needs to adjust to how the industry has evolved. That's a huge thing holding her back. I'm curious though, how would it apply to Kesha's case?
@@popdissected4400 Well, Kesha was also huge. She took time to deal with her rape and so she spent a lot of time without putting anything out. When she returned she stopped making 100% commercial music and being marketed as the young crazy sexy blonde party-girl, which has lead to lesser commercial success. Still I believe she has gotten better with her music. Katy just released an album with less quality, which can happen to anyone (in fact, a lot of people expect High Road to be kinda mediocre) and her public appareances made her look like an adult trying too hard to seem like a teenager (In my personal opinion). Anyways, I loved the video!
Mars Though you sound a little more respectful than most people commenting about her and Witness era in general, you still don’t seem to understand that her feelings were very real and that she captured them in form of the witness album which is an honest and rough record and not her trying to be woke or trying anything particular in general. Yes, there were things that she was trying to get across with every song but they were all things she truly felt and not because she thought they would be received well or make her look good like you’re making it sound. You’re trying to invalidate a real person’s feelings, someone who has clearly gone through a lot and comparing her or her struggles to other artists and their hardships is honestly insensitive and disrespectful to both of them.
@@SkyLene I get it but the issue is not the album itself, I feel like a good image and the place you occupy in the industry is usually more important in terms of commercial appeal, and Katy's image through Witness just wasn't as likeable. She also changed her lane in terms of pop, which raised the typical "She was cooler before" kind of comments.
Mars You’re right in saying that’s why Witness failed to appeal to the general public. It still is no indicator of the quality of the album or the „realness“ of it. It is her expression of her thoughts and feelings and just like any other singer’s honest and heartfelt creations, it is art which holds an important message for her and her fans and whether you like it or not is also just subjective opinion and no indicator of objective quality.
This is so true and underrated.
Very true indeed! People don't always look to see what's actually happened, and more often than not just make up their own conclusions unfortunately :(
Peope have a right not to like stuff, its called being a person.
@@popdissected4400 Witness was never a flop in my eyes.
In my eyes she didn't deserve the hate from those "fans".
I never saw her as a sex symbol, I never saw her as perfect.
I saw her as a person.
I saw her as Katy and Katherine.
I saw her as herself.
@@theskeptic777 So well said ❤️
XD
It’s scary how similar the ARTPOP and Witness eras were
1. Both lead singles peaked at #4
2. Both were experimental new sounds for the artists
3. Both had controversial collabs
4. Both had lower tour sales than previously
5. Both were wrongfully panned and are looked back at as great albums
What’s controversial collab in Witness?
@@Qwerty-lq2op bon apetit with migos
@@kevinketimunlaut170 is it because of the collab or the mv ?
@@Qwerty-lq2op If i'm not wrong. It's because the collab, Katy were known as a pro LGBT community. Then she did a collab with Migos which is homophobic
Artpop is a really bad album with meta critic score of 60..how can that be even good let alone great? Don't you have an ear
To me, the Witness era was bad because it felt so fake and insincere. Everything from the music to the dyed blonde hair that really didn't suit her, imo. Also, if she truly struggled with depression - she should know better than to indirectly poke fun at Britney for shaving her head. Those live streams of her supposed "therapy sessions," weird yoga, and free feminism classes were just the cherry on top of the disastrous campaign. It felt more like propaganda. I also believe her music suffered because she severed her work relationship with Dr. Luke who basically invented the Katy Perry sound as we know it (along with Max Martin and Benny Blanco).
Very valid points. I didn't think it was right for Katy to make that comment at all. However, I personally don't think she meant it with any ill-intent. I believe she was making a 'joke' in poor taste that was just a very fault comparison to how she felt at the time, so she was commenting on something people would understand. Nonetheless, she shouldn't have said it at all.
DayvinDazone propaganda is the perfect way to describe it
@@popdissected4400 and probably being fucked up and probably being aexually harrassed or worse..which is not something im making fun of..but think bout it why cut dr luke and also cut her hair? Shes fuckin gorgeous
Pop Dissected “poor taste” please. she is a grown ass woman. she knows how the industry works. she knows why she said that and was obviously to make fun of another female artist. the fact that you defend her as if the even idea of making fun a mental illness was not meant as mean is classic from stan twitter and her fans. you can say all the nicest words on the dictionary to paint her as the victim but sometimes you receive what you you give and put in the world. she probably had this thought about her since 2007. anyway, she’s doing worse than ever on the charts and i hope she fix her mentality since she never even cared about apologizing. and i’m glad britney clapped back on her shady ass.
@@popdissected4400 I agree it seemed fake.
This video was so mature, honest, and informative. As a Katycat, thank you! 🧡
As a fellow KatyCat, I appreciate that so much! Thank you for watching! It was important as a KatyCat to be very honest when discussing these hardships Katy went through, but also be as respectful as possible!
I'm also a Katcat! And, I agree with that statment, it showed us, what she was going through and why this album flopped.
Hey everyone! As this video's popularity has grown, I'd like to address a few things! First off, I'd like to address some things I missed in the video - Katy's "Witness: World Wide" 4 day livestream, the controversy of collabing with Migos because of the claims they were homophobic, Katy's comment about Britney Spears at the 2017 GRAMMYs - as well as the specific reactions from the general public. Also, the sales stats provided for "Dark Horse" and "Roar" are faulted. Those were added last minute to the video and are very vague and confusing. Just ignore them, please. I don't want anyone to think I'm blatantly lying about the sales; I didn't do accurate research for them. This was one of my first videos I ever did, so if it was remade, a lot more information would be included on all the other things happening during this time. But since it was one of my firsts, I didn't want to make the video be too long. Thank you to everyone who's been bringing to my attention the things that were missed. I appreciate learning from everyone, and I will always appreciate constructive feedback to try and make my videos better, more informative, and more objective. Once more, thank you all for watching, liking and subscribing. It does not go unnoticed! ❤️
Pop Dissected it was in my recommended and it seemed like a good video, I was not wrong
@@ibrahimabarry4937 Thank you!
@@popdissected4400 You should pin this bruh
It's heartbreaking to say the least, imagine what she must felt when people turned her back when she decided to open up and be herself. The entertainment industry sure is ruthless. In my humble opinion the songs weren't as catchy as before.
Thank you for being so respectful! Even if you didn't like the music as much as her previous work, you still were kind in acknowledging her struggles. Thank you.
Honestly, I don't care if she is "flopping" or she is underrated nowadays and some people hates her, I still support her no matter what, and in my opinion she is already a LEGEND of the music.
I'm proudly KatyCat since 2011. ❤
#KatyPerryIsNeverReallyOver
Same
She is talented, smart, rich, famous, funny and succesful
Sorry haters 😌😌
@@covid__2017 Exactly 👌🏻😎
Katy Kay here
People don’t like change and I think that’s the problem
Agreed!
Oakley Brighton that’s simply not true. David Bowie changed with every new album, same with Madonna. Both had amazing success throughout their careers.
Rebecca O i’ve heard from madonna fans that there are some rEALLY DIFFERENT madonna albums that fans rly hate
Depends on what kind of change. I guess all that was just too much for her general audiance
I agree but disagree at the same time. I think people don’t like *abrupt* changes.
It's underrated but it didn't flop. It was just not as well received as her previous albums
Agreed!
I loved many songs of that album ! It’s not a flop to me at least
It’s not about how that album performed . It literally killed her music career she can’t even chart now .
Agree.
It is a flop babes, specially compared with her previous albums and era
Don't forget that taylor release all her songs in spotify on witness' release
Nani Boricua NO it was Judy because of her album reputation was being released and she made a deal with spotify for better pay for artists.
Women should be treated equally and not by they appearance
?!? 😂 😂 😂.
dark rose yes
Sure but that doesn't really work when you build up an entire career based off of your sex appeal and looks...
Allison Walker Damaged from a radical religious upbringing, she didn’t know better at the time. And then, when she recovered from that and finally tried to find out who she really was, it was too late and people didn’t care about her as a person, only about her appearance and that’s honestly fucked up and not the way it should be
@@SkyLene does anybody care about the person behind the music
I'm surprised you didn't include the bizarre 4-day livestream Katy had leading up to Witness. It was strange and very offputting, and some things that occurred were the subject of much controversy and ridicule, such as her therapy session and her limited grasp of basic concepts in math/science. It also heavily contributed to the "fake-woke" perceptions as well.
Agreed, I wish I included the livestream in this video. Important to note; Katy comes from a very sheltered background and strict upbringing. What we see as "basic concepts" may be very foreign to her. She didn't even complete high school or go to college. So I understand why people see it as ridiculous, but there is a reason - and if it justifies it - that is to any one's one opinion.
Yeah, he ignored a lot of her own bad behavior that took the shine off her - working with homophobic artists, continuing unapologetic instances of cultural appropriation, kissing that kid on American Idol without his consent... You can’t blame it all on a 4year break and a haircut.
@@Lowlight91 the homophobic one is so weird because she was advocating for lgbt rights
What math/science does she not grasp?
She needs to stop making ridiculous music videos, make a record far from her usual producers, blow that vocal capacity and guitar skills that she have.
I agree; she needs to shake things up vocally and sonically. Katy needs a new song where she can channel her guitar skills, showcase her vocal ability, and play into a genre that is not only refreshing, but familiar! But as for her videos, I do like them even if they're goofy. I think Katy has always made silly, fun videos and honestly I'm okay with that. With that said, I would like to see more 'darker' style videos, such as Wide Awake or E.T.
@@popdissected4400 the Swish Swish video was a completely mess... Honestly I was expecting a vouging ball video with that type of song, but instead she ridiculized her own single, wich had great potential for commercial success. I'd love to see a stripped comeback with Katy Hudson instead of Katy Perry, like a One of the Boys era, but modern and familiar.
@@sevsabril Ooh, very interesting expectation! Now that you mention that, I would have loved to see that! And I agree on the latter 110%! I would love another One of the Boys sounding record. I love Katy's pop music, but that rock/pop style of OOTB is perfect for Katy.
@@sevsabril and Bad blood outpeakee and outsold
@@Chayenswee1 "And we see you over there on the internet comparing all the girls who are killing it"
its truly sad when 'artists' are only looked at as a 'celebrity' and an 'idol' and fans claim to love their 'work' and 'art' but when artists like katy try to open up and show true authenticity they get backlash and hate which is crazy yet understandable because of how being a celebrity and public figure is basically playing a character for people to relate to and talk about and a lot of the time fans forget that their idols are also human beings with feelings and struggles
YES!!!
to be honest, since after prism, i'm waiting her comeback, but Witness isn't what i want. i really miss her song in teenage dream era. Her style, her music, her long black hair.
I agree! Her black hair is her LOOK! And I get Katy has every right to change how she looks and should feel proud in doing so. But let's be real, her long black hair is her image, and it's what people recognize.
@@popdissected4400 She looked really good in short blonde though, like the one in '365'. I love that song but dang, people really didn't promote it and its sad.
U basically don't want change.
but she is a person. growth and mental development is natural. it’s also a very natural and good thing that her music reflects how her personality changes and evolves. it’s normal to miss the things that you’re familiar with and be sceptical against change but please try to stay open for the new things she has to offer.
Erra Mystique Rosette I know!! I’m still so mad thinking about the wasted potential of 365.
People love to build someone up and then try to tear them down. It’s been that way for a long time! I would never want to be famous!
Very true.
It is sad that she seemed timeless up until 2014. She definitely lost her momentum. It is sad because I miss her Teenage Dream era. I will miss pop music from early 2010s.
Same. Bo Burnham has said something along the lines of if you have the chance to live a normal life, live it. And I’m sticking by that. Fame seems absolutely miserable.
That's what the pop culture business is supposed to be. You get in, get money, and get out. People who want to continue to drag it on are the ones that get "torn down".
@@garichar Unless you manage to survive the 'storm'. Then you can slowly recover to the top. And you need a dedicated fanbase. Fans leaving her on Witness era speaks that state of the fandom.
Witness was the first Katy Perry’s record where I listened to every song tho
Ooh, very cool! :D
Same
Yea I kinda loved this album.. roulette is my favorite song
@@AbsolutAlim It's awesome!
Same here!
"you wouldn't say that to your sister or your mother. and we're all sisters and we're all mothers" hol up wtf 😭
xD thank you I was looking for this comment lol, classic Katy, like I know what she is trying to say but I am not a sister or mother lol, daughter would have worked :b
@@slushpuppie19 sister kinda makes sense but mother?? 😭
artists "flop" at some point because of
1. public is over them
2. fans are very close minded to new or different eras
3. they dont want an artist to grow as a person
But that never happened to Mariah tho instead she made her career extended up to 2000s while Whitney and Celine stuck in the 90s because they refused to experiment their musical styles
*"Be new to us, be young to us, but only in a new way and only the way we want.*
And reinvent yourself only in a way that we find comforting but also a challenge for you. Live out a narrative that we find interesting enough to entertain us but not so crazy that it makes us uncomfortable."
- _Taylor Swift_ explaining how the music industry treats women
Not Nicki Nicki had top ten on each album
@@ralphanthonymallillin2712 Mariah flopped so hard and was considered over and done by many between 2001-2004, and she came back in 2005 with the Emancipation of Mimi wich was considered a come back of comercial success.
@@rao803 yup I know that since I'm a lamb
I would've also added that all of her major live performances of her singles were memed to death on twitter bc of the way she would dance during the rapping parts of the songs which really affected how everyone viewed the songs.
Very good point! Thank you for bringing that up. Honestly, Katy's televised performances for Chained to the Rhythm are the only ones you can take seriously. But Swish Swish on the X Factor and even the VMA's were pretty good...nothing like the SNL performances.
😂
you talk about her weakness with a such kind way...it's so nice there is someone spread this love and understanding 💜
Justice for ARTPOP and Witness two of the most underrated albums of this generation
Literally sobbing at the end right now, 2020 is gonna be her year, I love her so much 😭😭😭😭😭
I love her too! I hope 2020 is her year!
no its not. She already had her peak, now its all going down hill. billie is taking over :)
@@xFellazz Hell no... There's space for both of them and for a lot of others.
I hope so too. Hers and GaGa as well 💜
xFellazz you must be a JOY huh
You deserve so many more views and subs! This video is well researched and overall a really great video!!!
Thank you SO much! Words like this mean SO much to me, and inspire me to keep creating. I appreciate your comment so much, thank you :)
Teenage Dream was HUGE. That and Prism defined my childhood even if I'm not a fan.
Those records defined my childhood as well!
Her song “Never Really Over” was almost a hit. The song “365” was a total flop. It had almost no airplay on radio and it mostly played in overnight/lunar hours.
"NRO" needed better / more promotion and live performances. I loved "365", but it BOMBED. Just tragic.
I really liked 365 I couldn't understand why it flopped
Pop Dissected Possibly because it leaked 2 1/2 weeks before it was released, and over 10k people downloaded it before the song even released.
@@Gaburierairuze When I heard 365 I thought it was going to be big! I heard it literally twice on the radio then nothing! :(
I loved 365 and never really over!! Shame :(
she should’ve released roulette after chained to the rhythm
also can we start a petition to stop saying "woke" (fking cringe) and go back to saying educated/aware pls? thanks
Okay, I agree. I only used it in the video to quote what others were saying about her 😂 I'd never say "woke" in my waking life ever.
White people take terms from the black community and then make it cringe
Pop Dissected I know! I wasn’t directing it towards ya ;) great vid!
TSM baby no, it’s bad english and sounds fucking stupid to say “woke”. Makes
My eyes roll to the back of head with embarrassment for those who say it and swear they’re aware or educated or enlightened. They usually are not anyway.
@@xxo5294 No worries, haha :) And thank you!!
Taylor Swift also released her entire catalogue on streaming services the day Witness was released I wonder if that affected anything
I wish I had put that in. I love my girl Taylor - but let's be honest, she's had a hand in affecting Katy's career.
@@popdissected4400 I agree. Can I ask how long did Katy took a rest?.
Lei Ar Close to 4 years, as he said in the video.
It really shows what kind of person Taylor is
@@popdissected4400 Tay Tay is a stone cold bitch and we know it lol but she's like 30 now so hopefully she's growing up a bit :b
When he talked about how she was hurting and how the public hated her coming out about this, I’ve actually shad a tear. This was really sad to hear. True fans stick to the celebrities they’re fans of even during their hard times, especially during their hard times and they show their love and support to them. This is just sick, the public is sick, celebrities can’t be vulnerable whatsoever, I guess.
She's so underrated now. 💔
I mean her latest release NRO and Harleys in Hawaii were so good. It's actually great songs. I don't know why she's so underrated nowadays 😔❤️
Right!!!
I think Witness was just the album minus the singles; they felt forced and the production rushed. Otherwise she would’ve a have a sonically consistent record. She should’ve dropped the promises of it being woke, and focused on songs like Tsunami, miss you more, Save as Draft and Roulette. I like her new songs; I just agree that she and Capitol aren’t promoting them at all, and just going by Katy Perry’s pop star power; but they need the input, a name on its own won’t sell them anymore. It’s a shame because Harley’s in Hawaii is amazing.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
It should've been promoted as a 'personal album', not a political one.
This album made me become a fan of hers. I was going through a lot and this album was one of the albums that helped me and it made me sad that a lot of people didn’t like this album. It’s like Joanne from lady Gaga which helped me so much too. The rawness in these albums helped me so much.
It seems the only way to make it to the top and stay there is never having a break. No days off. Taylor Swift does it like it’s nothing idk how she does it. It’s crazy
I know!!
I think because Taylor has more super loyal fans
@Joaquim Dos Santos From one who doesn't pay close attention to her, it seems to me that all or most of her songs are about breaking up with the next guy or something. At least the singles seem to always be about that.
@Joaquim Dos Santos All the songs seem to be about the same thing. Breaking up with the next guy.
@@justtester_9962 man look up the lucky one or starlight or treacherous and state of grace, we buy her albums because the best thing is inside the album, unlike most artists. She's kinda become pop now so yeah she's kinda shit but she used to be exceptionally good.
I love Katy so much, it makes me so sad to see how the public has dismissed her. I loved going to witness the tour and I’m still a huge fan! She inspires me to keep going after my dream
Katy inspires me in the same way ❤️Witness: The Tour was AMAZING! The production was literally insane.
What was your dream?
Oops, I Quid Pro Quo'd Myself to be a famous singer just like she is 🎶
@@jakstarzin I hope your dreams come true :) Don't forget about us CZcams strangers when you get there 😉
Oops, I Quid Pro Quo'd Myself thank you lol I’ll put you on my thank you list 😂
It's heartbreaking because i know katy poured her heart into witness and just wanted to make a record that was more authentic. I love her so much, and hope she's doing better now.
The clip where she is crying and breaking before going on stage, always breaks my heart :(
I remember when witness came out. As a Katykat- It was so sad to see her being bullied, and shamed. I will never forgive humanity for giving up on Katy.
I want to go give her a big gigantic hug, I’ve been with her since her beginning and I never turned away even if I didn’t’t love the song, but who has the right to judge her, no one can because they don’t know what she went through. I love her and not just her physical appearance
That's so beautiful. I agree. NO ONE has the right to judge her - they don't know what she's gone through or her personal life. They only see what she puts out. Everytime I rewatch this video, it makes me so upset knowing what Katy has gone through 💔
anyone! anyone can judge her, it’s your right. i judge her for her fetishizing of bisexual women.
asmRTPOP are you a bisexual woman? If not you have no right to speak on that behalf
Thank you crazy average Asian
Goaliestar45 you’re welcome
It wouldn’t have flopped if she had released it earlier. But she definitely deserves time to herself. And that’s why I will support her no matter what. Love you Katheryn ❤️
So well said ❤️ We love our girl, Katheryn Hudson!
They ask you how you are and you just have to say that you’re fine
Idk with the witness era she became too corny for my liking, but after watching this video I want to give her another shot.
That's wonderful!
This video is so well structured! You did a great job. Me as a KatyCat I could see the whole process of this situation. And I totally agree with You.
I wish Katy good luck
Thank you! I'm glad you liked the video. I also wish the best for Katy; it's such a shame all this happened to her !
Well... The same kind of thing happened to Lady Gaga when she released Joanne, I guess it's normal to flop at some point
True. Every artist hits a wall at some point. But it seems Katy is having a big difficulty recovering from it. I mean, Gaga has achieved so much in her career recently. But Katy? ... well ...
Was Joanne a flop?
@@petertruckenmiller9826 I can't tell because I barely check the charts, but Joanne was my least favorite album by Gaga, just an opinion
@@petertruckenmiller9826 I like to see her being extravagant, excentric... Sometimes I see Joanne as an excuse to clean that image a little
Pop Dissected Taylor Swift hasn’t hit a wall nor has beyonce or rihanna. They flop because they weren’t good
I believe she is slowly making a comeback she has released some good songs this year but I can’t wait for a new album in the future.
Me too!
The new album flopped I'm crying
Katy Perry can still make a huge comeback. Look at the Queen Mariah Carey. She had two albums that fell short of selling big but then came The Emancipation of Mimi that truly cemented her status as a legendary artist. It's just life - you go through ups and downs.
I agree but let's be honest, Mariah Carey is way more versatile and has reivented herself so much throughout her carreer. In my opinion she's in another level.
But yes, if Katy was able the make 3 good albums, one of them Teenage Drem which is legendary, she can make another one. But she needs to reinvent herself and bring something new.
Although Witness didn’t sell as well as her previous albums it was by no means a flop. It would be any artists dream come true to have a top five hit AND a #1 album. I think every major pop star has one era that doesn’t do as well as the other ones, but that by no means makes them unsuccessful. Just look at Madonna. Everyone criticized her for ‘Erotica’ and yet she was able to recover from it and almost 30 years later, people are calling it an underrated album at the time. A performer as big as Katy Perry will never fade into obscurity.
I love the positivity in this! Though Madonna isn't super huge now, she did comeback after "Erotica", - and i took her some time! So I think Katy will come back - maybe not as big as in the early 2010s, but she will. I never want her to be seen as a forgotten pop artists of the 2010s.
Pop Dissected I agree! She has something special about her and she has contributed so much to the music industry. I still have high hopes for her! 💙
Totally different genre, but everyone hated Folie a deux from Fall out boy when it came out, to the point where they didn’t even want to play it at shows anymore.... and it is literally their best album! people are now coming out like why the fuck did everyone hate it so much... short answer: sound changed a lot from the album previous. People. Hate. Change.
Actually I became a Katy Cat during the Witness era
That's wonderful!
Me as well! In love with her and her music as well
Witness is actually one of my favorite Katy Perry albums.
I think Witness is such an underrated, misunderstood album. Its absolute art. I appreciate Katy so much for experimenting with her sound and look, I wish more people would have given this masterpiece a chance.
WITNESS IS ACTUALLY AN INCREDIBLE ALBUM. SHE'S JUST AHEAD OF HER TIME.
i honestly love witness and is my fav album of katy perry i even liked her haircut lol . ppl need to stop acting like artists cant change
I agree! I loved Katy's pixie, and also appreciate the experimentation she did with Witness. It's sad people turned their back on her because she did want to try something new and evolve in a different direction. It's sad to still see people ignoring her and the great music she's put out this past year.
I don't understand why so many people hated her hair. I think she actually pulled off the look pretty well, as she's got the right face shape for it (imo). What blew my mind was when people were comparing this to that time when Britney Spears shaved her head in 2008, even though Katy only cut her hair short and didn't shave it. Plus they both did it for different reasons. Britney did it because she was having a mental breakdown and wanted to get herself out of the music industry because of the way they abused her for years (at least I think that was the reason). I'm pretty sure Katy did it because she just wanted a fresh new look for her new album. People are so dramatic.
Yeah, I agree that taking a long break sort of harmed her career, but I truly truly believe that if we all want to see a very well conceived and put together era she needs time to heal and time to create a beautiful piece of work again! I’m sure she’s gonna make it....we all need to forget about the negativity and stay optimistic and let her career flourish and dazzle like a firework 🎆🎇
YES!!! ❤️
Katy perry doesn't have a strong fandom she relied on the public and when the public didn't like something they left. Taylor has the fandom that reputation still preformed well
I still don't understand how people don't find women with short hair "sexy"?
Beauty standards 🤷♀️ Some just see "long hair" as the standard and what is acceptable 'attractive'.
Depends on the person- it worked on Angelina Jolie very well. Katy looks pretty no matter what but the hair cut was a bit of a lazy move. Doing your hair is hard work and women will sometimes get a really short cut cuz they don’t have the time or energy to do their hair.
Because they don't see it as feminine since it's a "boy's thing"
I hope katy would release her biggest, freshier, and better album soon
Me too!!!
Smile
@@queensawayama6773 Unfortunately smile didn't become her comeback album. I hope for the best and i hope she releases the album that would reestablish her in music industry
Bon appetit was my favorite song off witness. I thought the music video was both hilarious and visually stunning, disappointed that more people didnt like it.
It was sad people didn't like it! I loved the video - and the song; despite the lyrics being a bit too forward for my liking.
The Key of Awesome parody of that song, and video is what made me enjoy the original.
Same. The gays™ loved it tho
@@alexcarlson4344 Facts.
it's one of the worst songs I've ever heard. musically and the lyrics. embarrassingly bad.
She’s dropping new music now but isn’t catching much attention
The sad thing for me is that Witness came out in a very happy,good time in my life, and has such intense feelings associated with it. I can’t help but get chills when I listen to the record. Like I remember how every morning I would wake up and immediately go on her Witness World Wide stream, and how I would stay up til 3 every night so that I could stay right until she fell asleep. Everything was just so fun ! The music also just really connected with me . I’m so confused at how Witness the song wasn’t chosen as a single, it’s one of if not my absolute favorite song off the record. I really really hope people give her a chance again and let her reclaim her place as a pop queen.
Okay, yes to ALL of this! I'm right there with you!
Witness has a billion streams on Spotify.
Yes, it does! Amazing.
harleys in hawaii is actually a good ass song. smh.
"A woman should be able to feel free and liberated with her body without being subjected to others gaze"
This statement seems SUPER loaded in the context of a pop star. I could get on board with any of the following:
"Without being subject to harassment" or "Without being subject to disparagement" or "Without being subject to unwanted advances"... but to says "... subjected to others gaze" disregards the fundamental truth of her profession. Her appearance is part of the product she's selling. She doesn't just make albums and release songs. She does videos and tours which are, in no small part, visual mediums. Is it unfortunate that the industry doesn't allow the "simple studio artist"? Yeah... yeah it is. And maybe that's an issue to take up with hollywood / the music industry in general. But no pop star is free to dress/appear/groom/whatever themselves with abandon without financial repercussions.
I love Katy (and I say that as a grown ass man... I wish I could claim my teenage daughter was the reason but the truth is, I like pop music... sue me). But I happen to think that Small Talk and Never Really Over are better than anything on Witness. I think Witness "flopped" because she took a risk. She changed her music style and it didn't hit. Sometimes artists do that well. Sometimes they do it poorly. In this case, people didn't like the new style as much (and here I'm speaking of audio style). Her three newer songs (I'm counting the XMas song here) are clearly a return to that older style. When you compare them to "Bon Appetit" or "Swish Swish", they're very much throwbacks and I think that's intentional (and, from a commercial success point of view, a good decision).
Witness was the album that made people realize how vapid KP’s music always was.
I think WITNESS is her best album, tbh.
For a while, I also thought it was her best. And obviously 'best' is very subjective and everyone's opinion varies. I used to believe it to be her best work cause it was so different from what she had previously created. Sonically it was unlike any of her previous work, and I saw that experimentation as something very great. I also thought Witness had some top notch songs. Tsunami, Pendulum and Roulette are my favorite 3 tracks off the record, and I think the best. They join the ranks of Wide Awake, Firework and Dark Horse in my opinion. Why I personally don't believe it's her best work is I think there's a lack of cohesion in the vision for the record, as well as it's intent. It does seem a bit muddled. Her previous efforts didn't have this issue cause they weren't marketed as something, they were just released. Witness however had a specific image associated with it - 'purposeful pop'. It lived up to it in certain songs, but most of that message didn't come through for me.
Pop Dissected i Can see that but tbh although it may or may not be as cohesive, I think that was kinda the point. They all are not the same kinda songs, and many are a lot deeper in meaning than the average listener will realize. I think It just deserved more appreciation. And as a long time Katy fan, it’s the one I find that I listen to the most, even more than the others
@@ImJustinPineda Witness is also my most listened to record by her as well! By no means do I think it's bad, and it absolutely did not deserve the hate it got. For me, I felt some of Katy's lyricism, and production is clunky.
Mind Maze is so painfully autotuned in the chorus, I still can't hear what the actual lyrics are - even though I know them. The entire song is great, I love the instrumental bridge and how the song closes - but the chorus makes it unlistenable. Regardless of Katy's intent, it does not translate well. I think intent is important to recognize. Even if a song has a 'deeper meaning', it can still be flawed in its' execution, and that doesn't mean the meaning isn't recognized or appreciated!
Miss You More is probably the biggest lyrical offender on the record. "Saw a balloon floating away / Thought did someone let go / Or did they lose it?" I understand she's comparing that to her loss in her relationship, and questioning if SHE let go or lost her lover. But the lyricism is very insensible in my opinion. I know Katy loves using idioms, so I think she could have found a better way to execute that analogy that would be creative rather than bland.
Despite my criticisms, I do love the record. I've been a KatyCat since the beginning of the Teenage Dream era! I don't want to sound like a hater, but I think part of supporting an artist is being able to recognize when you believe they've fallen short, or missed the mark. Because after all, nobody's perfect! :)
Justin Pineda honestly i dont see what ppl see thats my fav album also
Teenage Dream sweetie I am SO sorry
She means Karma for herself I guess .... because Taylor is still having number ones !!!!!!!
Witnesses should've been the single with video. That song was the best of that album.
YES!
I still think she can comeback to the top. I really liked her "Never Really Over" however, she already "had a time" in the music industry so people don't bother. She needs a huge album in order really bounce back.
Agreed! If she doesn't have a new record then....yikes.
ok I don't wanna be that bitch but like EXOLLLL omg I don't usually see Exols on non kpop vids ahh
Great work broo.. you just got a fan.....
Thank you so much!
I'm huge fan of her and I have to agree with this :(
It's a hard reality :(
She was called crazy because of the way she acted in interviews.
For me, as a non fan, witness was the only album, I got connected with. I liked the dark "gay-club"-electro sound and the deepness of the songs. I don't care about her as a person, although I respect her as an artist. I appreciate your work for this video. It gave me a whole new look at this time of pop-history.
that and also how witness leaked like 1 year before the release
True! I don't think the "Witness" leaked majorly impacted this record though. I'm a huge KatyCat, and I didn't even know the title track leaked until after the record came out honestly. I think it was a leak that was very under the radar as well. I'll be honest, elements of that demo are much better than the final track.
What is "that" referring to? Or was it just an excuse for you to announce the groundbreaking information "it leaked" 🤔
Pop Dissected You’re a Katycat and never heard about the Witness leak until over a year later? Wut. It was all over social media. I never listened to it though because I wanted to be surprised when the album dropped.
I was a huge Katy Perry fan back in the day!
I'm tired of the music industry just tossing talented women aside after they get older
When she starts making music again I'll be right here!
Witness is by far her most matured album. So sad people continued to pit her mistakes against her and misinterpret her intentions.
As someone who was only ever a casual fan of her, ie. Listening to her popular songs and loving them but never finding her interesting enough to seek out her music on my own, this sorta is giving me a desire to listen to this album. I'd literally never heard of it before now.
Thank you so much with this video 🖤
Of course!
I hate that Witness negatively affected her career like this. Witness was the album that made me like Katy again. I couldn’t stand her persona through Teenage Dream and Prism. Witness is the first Katy album (since One of the Boys) that felt like it was actually herself.
Very interesting! "Witness" very much was intended to be Katy's most "authentic self", so I can see why YOU see that! And yes - it's so unfair ONE record has done this to her career.
Katy Perry is an ICON
I really enjoyed Katy's "Witness" tour when I saw her in DC. It was fun and very well done.
I think the biggest thing for Katy to overcome if she makes a new album is how she can embody elements of Katy Perry while staying true to herself as Katheryn Hudson. Me personally, I wasn’t a fan of the Witness era because it was such a big change from all her other eras, it didn’t feel like Katy, and it flopped. At the same time, I understand Katy’s struggles and ultimately things happen for a reason, and I believe Witness had to flop so that she can really discover herself creatively. With her new music being really good, I think she’s starting to realize that and now we’re seeing songs like Never Really Over, that have a deep personal connection to Katy but still feel like a Katy song, along with her other songs. I think if Katy can really promote her music and keep the same energy seen in her recent singles, I can see her come back stronger than ever and have a moment like Mariah Carey did back in the mid 2000s. Of course, I know Katy isn’t focused on promoting her music and just feels like releasing these singles, then that’s fine because she should be doing what’s best for her and the ultimate goal is for her to be happy. I really liked this video, it made me see the Witness era in a different light, and gave me it from what Katy’s perspective was, and helped me understand her a little bit better. And whether or not she continues to see the same success she did earlier this decade, I’ll always be a fan of her music and be listening to whatever she puts out.