DADGAD vs Standard tuning for Irish guitar
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 08. 2024
- DADGAD and standard are two most popular tunings in Irish and Celtic music, which one is best? In this video, I team up with trad guitar player James Taylor to discuss the pros and cons with these two tunings. Thanks for watching and remember to subscribe to the channel for more videos like this. I would also really like to hear your opinion about this matter in the comment section!
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Chords 2:40
Use of capo 7:17
Styles 12:12
Musical settings 16:01
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Thanks for great informative CZcamsâs, you two guys are a great pair of competent chaps :-)
Im on a vacation to Ireland next week and I thought I'd might brush
up and learn some Irish music. I tuned in to a couple tutorials was
fun but you two game me so much information I think I understand now. I'm going
to learn a few DADGAD songs and then tell my wife I have to buy another guitar.
Good job guys
Brilliant! Happy to be able to spread nerdy knowledge đ€ Enjoy your trip!
yeah yeah of course
Really good analysis and insightful comments. As a committed DADGAD player, I'd suggest finding alternative voicings for your chords, if your capo playing is sounding too samey đ but DADGAD is far and away my favourite tuning for Irish Traditional music, so if you haven't already - try it! âïž
Thanks for sharing your view Jim! I agree that you need to work on finding different interesting chord shapes to keep your open tuning playing fresh!
Great video, guys and GREAT playing! Will share with my viewers.
Thanks so much! Happy you enjoyed it!
Great discussion guys! Learned a lot! Thanks!
Thanks for watching Dave! Happy you enjoyed the video. Looking for topics to make videos about at the moment, let me know if you have any ideas đĄ
Thank you! That was immensely helpful - Cheers!
Brilliant! Thanks for watching!
DADGAD seem to be brighter and richer than common tuning. IÂŽm a big fan of this tuning.
Good man Anders!
Great informative video
Absolutely amazing video, thank you guys. You are very talented. I hope this video will encourage my friend to study this incredible style.
Thanks for watching! Happy you got value out of the video!
Great insight into standard v dadgad.
Thanks a lot.
Happy you found it useful. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I am over 70, and feel I've so much still to learn. I really wish I'd been able to study a folk course in the North East, but these courses just weren't available then. Given that most of us don't use our degrees in any relevant way in any case, learning a life skill like music at university is a no brainer whether you use it directly đor not. I studied classics and ended up being an accountant!
I play in both DADGAD and standard, but I find that in sessions I favour standard because I don't like to change capo. Actually, in sessions I tend to back myself both ways, since I use a repurposed baritone guitar with a 740mm scale tuned down two semitones (DGCFAD) with a Kyser K-lever drop D (green) capo at the second fret (equivalent to a 660mm scale at the second fret). This gives me a low D in the bass (which can be fretted to E with the K lever), and leaves me free to move between keys without changing capo position. I also use a Kyser K-lever (blue) DADGAD capo at the second fret (fretting only the 3rd, 4th and 5th strings), which again enables me to fret the bottom string to E with the lever while leaving the top two strings open (to ring A and D), and maintaining the facility to access standard tuning too. Sadly, these Kyser K-lever capos are no longer made, which is often the way with good ideas.
I've also experimented with Scruggs-Keith tuners (on strings 6, 2 and 1), Tronical tuners and Roadie tuners over the years with Scruggs-Keith tuners being the quickest, Roadie tuners the more accurate and Tronical not great. If I had a decent ear, I'd be able to switch tunings quickly and without tuners, but in sessions and live this process can take a while, although if your fiddle or box player tells a good story (and they usually do) that helps!
Thanks you again for your excellent video.đ
Matt Heaton plays mainly in standard with great effect.
He plays every Saturday with his lovely flute player wife and acolyte on a Live guided session on YT, Shannon Heaton
Subbed my man. Loving the channel đ
Thanks so much for the sub! I'm still playing around with different ideas for this channel, but it was great fun having my mate James on as a guest in this one. If you ever have ideas or suggestions for video topics you would want to see from me, please let me know!
Well seen! I am a guitarist from Brittany in France. I play in standard and DADGAD. I prefer the DADGAD for modal music because of the drones and harmonic resonances and plays as standard for music like bossa-nova, jazz, rock...
Very informative and inspiring.
Thanks for watching!
Great catch at 5:03. My heart skipped a beat
A couple of days ago I watched a short video by Matt Heaton where he demonstrates various chord shapes based on standard tuning. Half a minute in he does a full G chord and quickly adds heâd never use it, because it âcrowds the tuneâ. I felt he somehow expressed essentially why Iâm such a fan of DADGAD myself, for trad Irish backing. Anyway, I greatly enjoyed your discussion, and youâve got a new subscriber. Great to see such devotion for Irish music - sĂ„nn fra Ă©n Nordmann til en annen ;-)
Hi, Petter. Thanks for subscribing! Backing Irish music is indeed a tricky balance between adding to the overall groove and feel of the tune, without stealing too much attention. I'm no expert on the subject myself, but I love learning about it!
Alltid hyggelig Ă„ mĂžte andre med interesse for irsk musikk her til lands :)
@@AndersLillebomusic Ja ikke sant? Det var god kompis og treraderspiller Audun Eken som tipsa meg om deg. Vi har spilt sammen i mange Ă„r.
Hi Peter!
I really like Matt and his lovely wife Shannon.
And their Lives I don't miss every DĂ© Sathairn.
Can you copy past the link to that video with Matt?
He does some cool flatpicking too :)
@@Melvorgazh I'm not sure exactly which video Matt speaks about the G chord but here is a playlist of all of Matt's videos on Shannon's CZcams channel. Matt and Shannon Heaton are wonderful people! czcams.com/play/PLNBgNicF6tU2bTa9HJwU7DX7KgWlZTFIJ.html
@@jsimes1 What G chord are you talking about?
I remember him saying about not to make the backing too crowded indeed.
I was asking for a video of him where he plays the melody flatpicking whith Shannon.
It was at the beginning of a set.
I forgot the name if the tune.
But I remember his flatpicking was as good as Flynn Cohenâs and I like it as much as John Doyleâs.
A pity he doesnât do it at all during the Live Saturday sessions. đ€·đ»
Siete dei grandi
Thank you for the presentation, and the thoughtfully intelligent discussion and demonstrations, hitting on the points and nuances of the standard and DADGAD tuning choices. I like the concept expressed as "movement between the chords." While I love DADGAD, especially on 12-string guitar for its massive sound in solo playing, it is a challenge to not immerse every Irish song in a Dsus4 tsunami of drone strings that approximates a bagpipe regiment, even in fingerstyle.đ€ One only needs to hear players such as Pierre Bensusan and Tony McManus to appreciate the possibility of subtleties within that alternative tuning. Drop D and DADGAD certainly lend themselves to Celtic music, but James shows the more accessible versatility of standard. It all depends what a song needs, really.
Whoa....D-35 nearly went for a burton! excellent job guys.
I loved your video and brief examples between Dadgad & Standard tunings. I play mostly in drop D now for many years but do enjoy Dadgad. Thanks for your insights and taking the time to share your passion of Irish music and guitar.
Thanks for tuning in to our nerdy conversation Brad :)
@@AndersLillebomusic I play in a Celtic band here in Victoria BC, Canada and was pleased to come across your videos as well as the videos with James. I'm always looking for inspiration from others who play with passion and sensitivity to the music. Thank you Andersđ
This video is great, I am just getting into playing folk/celtic music and.. I was wondering if it would be possible for you could to send me a tab of the chords you normally play in the different keys of a Standard Tuned guitar. I would really appreciate it!
Great discussion, must try and do more in dadgad
Dadgad is a ton of fun!
It also depends what mode is the tune in and what instruments you back.
Fantastici
Thanks for watching man!
THANKS, FOR THIS GREAT DEMO, AND EXPLANATION!!![ANDERS:.FYI: ...YOUR CLOCK HAS STOPPED!....]
Thanks for watching! So happy you enjoyed it. The wall clock has now been retired, and the whole room has been renovated. Looking forward to show you the result in future videos!
this topic. this talent. these accents. these faces
i am happy
Not to mention the interior design!
Hi!
Dia dhaoibh!
Anyone tried the sitar-tuning for Celtic trad?
I would say it depends if you play alone or in bigger bands(where you can stop the backing and allow yerself to move the capo arround.
For flatpicking definitely standard!
because it suits key change without the capo better.
ps: excellent video! Diolch! Trugarez!
Grma!
nice d18 and 35
where can i learn some guitar from James?? Great sounding player.... does he have his own lessons or page?
James is great! You can reach out to him on Instagram @jimmypatrickguitar
Personnaly I prefer Drop-D.
Only when you play tunes in E dorion you gota put the capo and fine tune the strings again.
Donough Henessy plays in Double Drop-D :)
I must try the sitar-tuning
Drop D is a great tuning for Irish music! It gives you a bit more flexibility with chords than dodged, but you still have that powerful D bass.
@@AndersLillebomusic Indeed.
I tried DADAGAD and it's not easy and when playing tunes in different keys like E Dorian it wasn't so great.
I suppose for backing only it's fine.
Finally subscribed.
Where are you from?
Me from Brussels đ
@@Melvorgazh DADGAD is one of the most versatile tunings for Irish/Celtic music because the majority of songs are in D or a relative key. Backing or fingerstyle it's a lovely tuning but it needs practice if you're not used to playing open tunings. I've danced back and forth with it, DD, DDD and standard and I eventually stuck with drop D. It's easier to tune back up to E for when I play the standard strumming tunes in the band and drop it down for doing some backing.
@@derrickdoiron4421 Interesting.
But If I play in Drop-D I have no bass in E (which I love) especially for E-dorian tunes.
I also play in G and A dorian a bit.
Love this video! What's the name of the lovely tune you're playing in the beginning?
Thanks for watching! The tune is called «Luke's Jig», written by Luke O'Malley
@@AndersLillebomusic Super, thanks! I have O'Malley in my heritage. Cool
Thanks for sharing ! Can you advise me some good irish guitar players to listen ? I know O'Domnhail, Paul Brady.. looking for more inspiration.
Look up Arty McGlynn, he was probably the most influential.
Also Daithi Sproule, Dennis Cahill, John Doyle, Garry O'Briain, Paul De Grae, Tommy O'Sullivan, etc.
@@erickfp Thank you very much!
@@elcono1000 You're welcome. Take the time to watch this documentary about Arty, it's really worth it: www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/irish-music-series/play/?pid=5855558975001&title=Arty%20McGlynn
@@erickfp Great i will ! Thanks !! :)
Anyone knows in which tuning Julia Toaspern, Tia Files and Jenn Butterworth play?
3 skilled ladies on the guitar â€ïž
I know Julia and Tony McManus and the both play in many different tunings. Julia plays in standard more than open tunings because she plays more jazz and pop songs.
@@jsimes1 Thanks.
I asked her too.
I didnât see your response before, sorry.
She said she played mostly in standard.
Ans she also said she had a special plectrum made by a friend.
By the way.
I am looking for a plectrum that is slightly tougher than a Nylon Dunlop 0.60mm, something like 0.63-065mm.
Would you by any chance know a brand that makes something like that?
Thanks a lot!
Greetings from Brussels Belgium. Have a good day!
Thomas
I play both accordion and guitar - it is impossible to play either when your hands are freezing.
True! We didn't do many takes đ
Nah, Saya mencari yang menggunakan tuning standart. Karena jika DAD bla bla... đ€Łđđ
Go raibh maith agat!