Investors Don't Want Pitch Decks - Shane Stanley
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- Shane Stanley is a producer/author/instructor/screenwriter known for numerous film and television projects including Desperate Passage (1987) starring Michael Landon, The Desperate Passage Series (1988 to 1995) starring Sharon Gless, Edward James Olmos, Marlo Thomas and Louis Gossett Jr. Street Pirates (1994), Gridiron Gang (2006) starring Dwayne Johnson and Xzibit, A Sight for Sore Eyes (2004) with Academy Award nominee, Gary Busey. Shane is also the author of WHAT YOU DON’T LEARN IN FILM SCHOOL: A Complete Guide To (Independent) Filmmaking.
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Just had a pitch today. Pitch-deck was crucial to have on-hand.. it was essential.
I was told no one wants to “read” script anymore. The pitch deck was to sell to these new executives.
You are correct. Don’t listen to this guy! This video is out of proportion.
I have zero reputation or history in real business filmmaking , 20 years as a DV what I’ve called a cosplay filmmaker back in the post Rebel without a Crew days, but it never left, the disease if filmmaking is a real thing, so now I’m prepping a film, a pitch, I have to study what’s used and what’s not in pitching , I hear a pitch deck is a thing, then it’s not. So now my plan is to shoot a $5000 scene from the script, like the full real scene, proper post etc. the reason I have to do that is to show proof of ability. Cinema is about giving viewers an experience that they can get lost in, get caught up in. I’m truly more excited about filmmaking now at 53 than I ever was in my naive 20’s, let’s get to work. 🤓
Depending on the film/genre, doing a scene won't help you much. Rather try to do a sizzle reel, shoot parts of some of the best scenes from your script, whatever you can afford to do. The reel should convey the mood, feel and pacing of the film. If you can do a great 2 mins. reel that's worth more than one complete scene.
@@marcoberdorfer I see how that makes perfect sense but I feel like nowadays all content is fragments of a bigger thing, I don’t think a sizzle reel shows filmmaking talent, sizzle is good for effects people and cinematographers but a filmmaker has to show a moment executed with cinematic skills, (not in reference to the photography as the cinematic humanity )
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Shane is such a wealth of knowledge!
You can't break into the film industry as an unknown screenplay writer by pitching your screenplay to studio production people or anyone else, regardless of how good or original your screen play is. Your product must be way more refined an dynamic than a written screenplay. You have to do it the old fashion way: Do It Yourself!! With your own Blood, Sweat, and Tears (And Money). Make a short film, make another short film. Go to film festivals, then go to more film festivals. Find ways to market your product. But Don't Every Pay to Pitch To a Production Company Executive.
Film Courage is always dropping gems per their guests. Thank you for sharing
I always start by saying, "Whatever you're gonna ask. Don't bother. I don't know."
I love this advice. THANK YOU!
This information was very helpful. It's definitely an eye opener.
Wait, what? Stage 32 says otherwise. And they have Netflix, HBO Amazon etc etc in their network.
Loved this. 😍
Like with everything, don't over do it. A simple pitch deck that gets the point across with just enough information to get them interested can do its job well.
I kinda agree but he forgot that most investors will want to SEE WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE! Some type of sample that you can do what you say you're going to do.
I love all your videos. But I tall ya, this is the best one yet. Shane can be a bit brash at times. But it's so needed for questions like these. They're the uncomfortable truths
I wouldn’t completely kill the pitch deck idea if it’s four or five pages. On my title page I have the picture of the character to spark imagination and curiosity for the producer and investor to think of someone they would like to see in your story. 2nd page the characters and their story ( not movie stars) where do they come from who are they in bullet points. 3rd the story. 4th page pictures of locations. Comps. You do have to have knowledge about figures… just like selling a house. Lastly my bio…. ( not necessarily in this order ) Then rely on a conversation, answer questions short and sweet movies that’s telling my truth stories that I know “ life’s”that I have lived places that I have seen or heavy research for example the first adventure movie I wrote and sold. I absolutely love to write and I love my characters I think that’s a key.
absolute gold
You’ve given some very great insight in these interviews. I’m not a film maker, but it’s really cool to see the processes from an insider perspective.
One question: does your typical investor search for projects themselves, or do they put their name in a hat, so to speak, and wait for the pitches to come in?
A great question that I cannot answer. However I have self funded the POC on my site. Like he said always have a few. - 1890 Media
In other words, if you want funding for your movie, you got to get David Hasselhoff on board. ;)
Actually, it's really good advice not to compare your movie to Spider-Man but to El Mariachi or The Blair Witch Project. Show realistic expectations and show that your budget will be low and the potential for profit will be there right away. Also, I totally agree with starting small and gaining trust by showing success.
the interviewer on this channel always seems to ask such great questions
Damn, just done with my awesome straight to the point pitch deck as advise from a friend to do :(
Go with what you have. Shane is talking about his experience with his investors. Your experience may be entirely different.
if its 60 pages its not a pitch deck he seems to be talking about binders. i got asked for a pitch deck it was 13 pdf slides mostly images no budget, it is to start a conversation
Damn this is great!
Love this one. Thanks for watching Benjie!
Broadcasters in Development require the larger 70 pages budgets from Producers. To start , first meeting 8 pages and a synopsis and logline and then if they want it then the year long Development process starts.
Interesting. I e directed and produced features and I have never not been asked for a pitch deck and written on the movie and return on investment.
I wouldn’t completely kill the pitch deck idea if it’s four or five pages. On my title page I have the picture of the character to spark imagination and curiosity for the producer and investor to think of someone they would like to see in your story. 2nd page the characters and their story ( not movie stars) where do they come from who are they 3rd the story. 4th page pictures of locations. Lastly my bio…. Then rely on a conversation answer questions short and sweet ice peak to movies that’s telling my truth stories that I know lies that I have lived places that I have seen or heavy research for example the first adventure movie I wrote. I absolutely love to write and I love my characters I think that’s a key.
Shane's cool I like this guy, real talk.
super great informational video.
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Good interview, usable advice, I hate creating pitch decks but have created dozens of them and the films that get financed have absolutely nothing to do with the freaking pitch deck. But if you don't have one you'll have a harder time conveying your vision to your investors, cast and crew. Pitch decks are for directors to create something tangible for presentation. If your deck sucks your film will probably suck too. You'd be surprised how many first time directors don't have their scenes designed. They actually believe that the art gods will show up and tell them on the day. Nonsense, this is a craft not art. You are not an artist, you are a storyteller and business person.
I am working on my pilot episode of an epic fantasy series. If I chose to produce a graphic novel of the pilot instead of a pitch deck, could that lead to success?
I had a similar idea for a feature.
Sounds like a great idea. For some reason frank millers 300 popped into my head. Check it out. Good luck!
Houston Howard is a huge advocate for graphic novels being a starting point for growing your audience before translating to film. Right here on Film Courage too!
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If the graphic novel sells well, possibly. Maybe go through GoFundMe or GiveSendGo to get hype for the graphic novel (tackling a social issue or appealing to a specific crowd [Christian, etc.] always generates hype). People are more willing to invest in something if they know others are already investing. If your graphic novel is a success (at least from a money-raising standpoint), the movie might be too. Good luck and God bless.
If it sells well, then yes its a good idea. But are you an artist or do you have to hire someone to do the art? Can you secure a publisher or will it be self-published? So you might have to invest a lot of money. And there is no guarantee of success. Even if you sell 50,000 copies or more, then potential investors and studios might think that is not enough. So you could have a very successful graphic novel or series of them, but you never get to make it into a TV show
Make sure you seek investors that understand risk investment in the film industry..get a good attorney..do your homework on distribution and marketing with realistic ROI...don't work with friends work with business minded individuals..get good actors. Learn the trade..learn how to write and produce equitable projects..good luck.
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Johnny Bond married a Filipina and have a daughter Jainy Bond ****
He talks a lot of sense, but the hat shading out the eyes is not good look for an interview.
Nobody is going to loan you millions of dollars for an original, untested concept, so either write for an already established franchise or start on a smaller, cheaper scale. (books, comics, graphic novels, internet episodes, etc.)
Unless you have the "Rights" to those smaller, cheaper scale (books, comics, graphic novels, etc) don't waste your time. If you don't have the Rights, no one will finance your film. And don't waste your time writing a screenplay for an 'already established franchise', that franchise won't be interested in seeing your screenplay. If that franchise wants to or plans to produce another film in their franchise they will, and unless you get hired to write the script before you've written it, you're just wasting your time.
My original idea, James Bond 007 is the uncle of Jainy Bond 007,The father of Jainy Bond is Johnny Bond the brother of James Bond 007***
Is it just me or this guy is telling inconsistencies stories about his first funding for his film ? I don't get it. Is he got the fund after he called back after he can't answer the question, of he has to back and forth 5 years for the first yes ?
Who will buy my original idea the Jainy Bond 007 ?
People would watch more of your videos if they were shorter
Longer = more knowledge !