Proxxon TBM220 Bench Drill Review

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • A review of the Proxxon TBM220 Bench Drill.
    Please note, I have had this product for about 6 months or so in order to give a fair review, having used it in my own modelling.

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  • @MIKE_FROM_DETROIT
    @MIKE_FROM_DETROIT Před rokem +4

    The head swivels so you can drill into taller objects. Have it swiveled off the bench and you can drill a hole in something tall between the floor of your shop and the drill bit (3 or 4 feet / 1 meter+)...instead of being limited to the few inches between the head and base.

  • @drm9979
    @drm9979 Před 3 lety +2

    I also wondered why (5:00) the drill bit was not centered/fixed over the hole. would make things a bit easier if only the height was adjustable. but i recently realized why they did this. I had to drill holes in a subwoofer box already fixed in place in spare tire well of car. could never have drilled straight holes by hand. but i was able to use the drill press by swinging the drill bit out to the side of the base. perfect holes every time. this drill press is awesome.

  • @aepickard7907
    @aepickard7907 Před 4 lety +2

    I have one of these.
    Shortcomings:
    Requires speed controller, even the slowest speed is too fast
    Manual height adjustment of the motor housing is a pain
    Really needs the 3 jaw chuck
    Otherwise excellent

  • @KRISHNAWARRIOR
    @KRISHNAWARRIOR Před 2 lety

    Thank you for mentioning the Product Numbers ! I will buy all 3 items, thank you.

  • @jpdesroc
    @jpdesroc Před 6 lety +2

    Here are my experiences with the TBM-115(USA).
    First I bought it from a well known USA distributor.
    I bought the TBM115 model with a Proxxon chuck.
    This was mainly for small PCB drillings..
    When I received the drill I just tried to let it run
    with its genuine Proxxon chuck installed, with no drill but at its maximum speed which is 8500rpm.
    Ooooff, let me say this drill was NOISY !! Rattling with succeding noises
    just like if the installed bearing had loose balls.
    The chuck was tightly screwed, no loose belt..
    Very disapointing.. Since the machine was still on warranty
    I sent it the Proxxon service department. They gently replied to all
    my emails and asked to send the drill to be tested and replaced.
    The person at the service dept told me that he will
    test the other drill before it is shipped to me.
    Well after about 10 days I received an other brand new TBM115
    and guess what ? The other drill had the same noise problem has
    my preceeding one.. Even if they said they would test it before shipping !!
    So I had a closer look at the drill and started to wonder
    if these new TBM models were now made in China.. (??)
    I wonder because at work we have a Proxxon TBM115 dating
    around 1995 (the black & grey model) and it is working very silently
    compared to the new green/yellow ones..
    I compared both machine and discovered that their respective original Proxxon chucks
    were not the same. They looked the same but each of their adjusting keys were differents.
    The new one had smaller teeth around it compared to the older one.
    Chinese made ?? Well I cannot tell but it looks like.
    And the overall press drill mecanisms are also different.
    The old one looks sturdier.
    Here is what the old black/grey drill looked like:
    www.arcenson.com/public/Proxxon/Proxxon%20TBM-115%20drill.jpg
    Conclusion, don't buy the new yellow/green TBM drills.
    Try to find the black/grey first version which seems
    to be all american made and much reliable.
    By the way, I tried to find a video showing the new green/yellow TBM
    drills running with the motor sound included but
    couldn't find one.. The existing videos have their drill sound removed
    and replaced with background music.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    So far I found an old working black/grey TBM115 and got rid
    of the newer one.

    • @thanhtungvo9098
      @thanhtungvo9098 Před 6 lety

      jpdesroc But can i use it in drilling PCB sir. is it perfect in drilling pcb exceprt the noise?

    • @jpdesroc
      @jpdesroc Před 6 lety

      If you use the small six triple slit MICROMOT precision steel collets it generates less noises.

    • @jpdesroc
      @jpdesroc Před 6 lety

      And yes it is good for small PCB drillings.

    • @drm9979
      @drm9979 Před 3 lety

      the 115 is made in Luxembourg, not China. and it is awesome. and yes, I have the new yellow/green model.

  • @fabioribasdeoliveira7221

    Por favor. Desculpe minha falta de conhecimento mas acabei de comprar essa máquina e te pergunto...O mandril grande(3/8)deve ser só da marca proxxon ou podemos comprar de outra marca?

  • @AnthonyFrancisJones
    @AnthonyFrancisJones Před rokem

    Basic question - can anyone help me? On the top of the machine vice next to the adjustment knob is a 'boat' shaped moulding with a rectangular hole in it. What is this whole feature for?

  • @black5f
    @black5f Před 6 měsíci

    Are you trying to drill 0.5mm holes vertically through brass or N/S that you intend to tap? Then you need one of these? I have a garage full of larger tools and it's very difficult not to break off small drills on small work, because you just can't feel or hear the cut properly. I just bought one of these, why I didn't wake myself up and buy one 50 years ago when I started this lark is a complete mystery?
    The drill is great, excellent and really nice, brilliant. It's a shame it's not variable speed though. Movement is 30mm which is more than adequate. Maybe it could do with a key way so it doesn't wiggle day to day? I might modify mine, but all good press drills can swing so you can drill things much longer than the throat. My Meddings is 6ft high and because it can swing, I drilled out the snapped off head bolts on and outboard motor for mate without dismantling it.
    The optional vise is mediocre but OK. The one I have has been milled flat on the top. It could do with some holes to screw down some slightly thinner outer sacrificial jaws on the top for holding thin pieces flat as the vee is only in one jaw. But press vises are meant to be drilled, tapped, milled and modified for your projects.
    The fence is complete pants, the play on mine is 4 degrees and when you can tighten it, it sits at 2 degrees ish but changes. It's a rough casting seated in a very nicely milled slot on the bed! This doesn't make any difference for one straight row of holes, but two or three parallel lines of holes you will struggle. Find someone with a mill to make you a proper fence that fits the slot, and is square as it's adjusted and re-seats square.
    Get the chuck, a must, it's actually very concentric if you keep it clean. Run out is important, small drills skate badly anyway ... always centre punch? Just drilled a 0.8mm hole in 40 thou N/S and tapped it 14BA no problem. The chuck should be standard, collets optional. I haven't tried them but 1/8" is not 3.2mm?
    Is it a Sherline ... no. Is it good, absolutely yes. A really really good tool for accurate bench top work like locos, brass work etc.
    My Sherline lathe is 40 years old and is bang on accurate despite heavy use. I don't know what they cost now, more than I want to pay for sure.

  • @cliffordherbert9587
    @cliffordherbert9587 Před 3 lety

    A useful review. Thank you.

  • @webtvrevolution7608
    @webtvrevolution7608 Před 3 lety

    Which is the maximum depth you can drill? Or in other words, which is the max height of a piece you can block under the drill? Thank you!

  • @vladnickul
    @vladnickul Před 27 dny

    does one measured the runout of such a machine?
    maybe modified it to take "ER" collets ?>

  • @williamsworkshopuk
    @williamsworkshopuk Před 5 lety

    Hello sir, I've been gifted this by father Christmas - but I'm not entirely sure what I'm going to do with it. i'm a railway modeller in 2FS and just about the only thing I can imagine is drilling out concentric holes on chassis sides, coupling rods, etc. that have been sweated together. Any other ideas?! :)

  • @thanhtungvo9098
    @thanhtungvo9098 Před 6 lety

    so many negative comments on this producr but is it perfect in drilling pcb excerpt the noise?

  • @buildfix4212
    @buildfix4212 Před 4 lety

    Nice tool.
    Iwant to add it in to my collection soon

  • @angelg3986
    @angelg3986 Před 6 lety +5

    I don't know were do you guys buy it or how many holes do you drill per hour, but I can *NOT* recommend this tool unless I want to give somebody a *bad* advise. It's a low quality product made of low quality parts which can catch rust (mine came with some signs of rust on the "collar").
    Reading such reviews, I procured TBM220 (on 230VAC as in EU) for drilling tiny holes in PCB. Typically on a PCB I have 20-40 holes. Piece of cake for any drill, OK ? The darn thing can't make a single PCB without getting so hot that it might catch fire or meltdown the belt. To get so hot it needs 10 min operation. It uses brushed motor and I can smell the product of sparking brushes. They even saved from building an electronic speed regulator so you either have to make it yourself or are limited to 3 manually ... mountable (you re-mount the belt) speeds.

    • @cb01ttr
      @cb01ttr  Před 6 lety +1

      Hi, thanks for sharing your views on the product. I have to say I am surprised it doesn't work for you, as for me, it does a great job. Out of interest, what drill might you try next?

    • @angelg3986
      @angelg3986 Před 6 lety

      If I could recommend something, I would do it here. Unfortunately those kind of instruments are like stuck in the mid-20th century tech. No brushless motors, no electronic speed control (with preserving high torgue) and likely (this is from 21st century) no much pre-production testing and quality control.... At least the collar could be of stainless steel. Doesn't your get so hot after 10 min?

    • @thanhtungvo9098
      @thanhtungvo9098 Před 6 lety

      The Loco Builder is it usefull in pcb drilling sir?

    • @lensman5762
      @lensman5762 Před 5 lety +1

      I had a proxxon bandsaw a few years back. Not a cheap item by any means and the motor windings melted after 6 months of light use cutting 2~3mm brass and aluminium sheets or flatbars for model engineering. I think these items are very cheaply made for the asking price and relying on the so called German brand name to justify their prices. In all honesty one is better off buying one of those cheap Chinese pillar drills that surprisingly can be quite accurate , much more robust and versatile for a little over £70.00.

    • @skallagrim3
      @skallagrim3 Před 5 lety

      @@angelg3986 Nothing to recommend but empty air...

  • @gofast1394
    @gofast1394 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi great video on showing the many features and operation of the Proxxon is the TBM 220 made in Germany! and do you know anything about the quality of the TBM 115 bench drill Thanks David

    • @drm9979
      @drm9979 Před 3 lety +1

      Luxembourg and the 115 is awesome.

  • @acrossdrew
    @acrossdrew Před 3 lety

    Very helpful. Thanks mate.

  • @thijsd
    @thijsd Před 3 lety

    does the drill yank sideways when it reaches the depth stop, like with many cheap bench drills?

    • @eleotlecram
      @eleotlecram Před 3 lety +3

      The quill is rock solid on this device. It can even be tightened should it ever develop any slop.

  • @melangkoh4184
    @melangkoh4184 Před 3 lety +1

    oh...why only 6mm for a tabledrill?

    • @harrydelange1821
      @harrydelange1821 Před rokem

      The TBH model goes up to 10 mm, this one is especially for very small precision (hobby) jobs

  • @denisivanov9943
    @denisivanov9943 Před 6 lety

    Can i use this proxxon 220 with giaride electro generator?giaride generator have 100 watt ,proxxon use 85 watt?

    • @cb01ttr
      @cb01ttr  Před 6 lety

      I'm afraid I couldn't advise on that issue, I'm not an electrical engineer. Sorry.

  • @keirfarnum6811
    @keirfarnum6811 Před 4 lety

    I prefer the Micromark variable speed jeweler’s drill press.

  • @Berghiker
    @Berghiker Před 3 lety

    Show us how you changed the belt.

  • @drm9979
    @drm9979 Před 3 lety

    I have the TBM 115 version which I understand is the US version? anyway, it is a tremendous piece of engineering, absolutely incredible for the price; I enjoyed this helpful video as well. only minor disagreement, I like the way the collets grip the drill bits, I only use the big collet-free chuck for bigger bits as the collets only go up to 1/8".

    • @x1area51ii7
      @x1area51ii7 Před 3 lety

      Im planning to buy this off amazon, how do you like it? Any vibrations? Slop? I'm going to be drilling stock 5mm round shaft rod.

    • @drm9979
      @drm9979 Před 3 lety +1

      @@x1area51ii7 This Proxxon is truly awesome. i detect zero runout with the collets, but they only go up to 1/8", a bit over three mm. they provide better stability and grip than the keyless chuck (which is what you will use for 5mm) does but I suspect you will be fine.

    • @x1area51ii7
      @x1area51ii7 Před 3 lety

      @@drm9979 thank you for reply. I will be using 5/64 drill bits (2mm).will it be ok? My order coming tomorrow, do I still.need a chuck?

    • @drm9979
      @drm9979 Před 3 lety +1

      @@x1area51ii7 nope, no need for the chuck. should be great.

    • @x1area51ii7
      @x1area51ii7 Před 3 lety

      @@drm9979 cool thanks!.

  • @megs2717
    @megs2717 Před 3 lety

    Can this drill through brass sheet?

  • @pitonastra
    @pitonastra Před 3 lety

    к этому станку очень нужна педаль для ноги.