I'm a 30 yo true beginner from EU. I just got my motorcylce license this week and got an R7 as my first bike. Even though the bike has a lot of power I find it very managable. The controls, clutch and throttle are much smoother than the bike I rode for riding school (BMW 700 GS). Could not be any happier with my choice for my very first bike!
Same here bro. I'm in love. I'm not even sure I even want to change it eventually, it's more than enough for me. I always wanted an r1, but now I don't feel like spending the money on the bike and its maintenance lol
I’ve completely changed my whole way of thinking about what bike I want. I’m getting an R3 to start on. Love the style of it and by all accounts a great beginner bike.
@@ScoutsOut I just need to sit on one before buying obviously. I’ve been asking around if the R3 is suitable for a bigger rider. No one has been able to give me an answer though. I’m 6ft 2 , 220lbs. My worry is I’m too big for it.
@HAYABUSA 82 this is the same issue I'm having I've been doing alot of research for my first bike but everyone is so small and skinny lol I'm 6'0 and 220
My partner started on a CFMOTO 300SR after her MFS course... Perfect for her to get confident on and I found it to be a fun highway capable (90 + mph if pushed) and fun London commuter. I think for most beginners a R7 is a just two steps to far, but a Ninja 400 is great for anyone with a natural nack for riding and mature behaviour.
I've been riding since 1976 and think you're spot on. Personally, when it comes to getting a bike, for a rider at any level, I think Yamaha has the answer with either the MT or R lines, or both. I think the MT03 is about as good a first bike as has ever been produced. My wife went with a TW200, then a CB500F, then a R3 and XT250. However in hindsight I think a MT03 would have been the best route since is has a low seat, high/wide bars, upright seating, is light, is cheap, has low gearing, good fueling and easy to operate controls, and has enough power to easily street ride. Regarding the R7, which I wouldn't recommend as a first bike due to the ergonomics that make low speed crashing and dumping way more likely (especially for smaller riders), I think it is a great bike for experienced riders too. I have what will be my 3rd R1 on order right now, and have a MT10 (my 2nd one), but I still love the R7. It is the proverbial "Fun = fast, light, and cheap" bike. So unlike many "beginner" bikes, it is not one that someone will almost certainly outgrow. I had a MT07 and a MT09. I liked their engines, but found their suspensions and chassis were not up to what I needed, while on the a R7, it is a great all around and very well-balanced package. Now I if I could only have one street bike, it would be a MT10. For a track bike I like the R1. But I still ride the R7 about as much as the MT10 and really enjoy it.
Another quality video. I agree with you, buy what makes you happy, with that being said, in some respects, I get why other countries do the whole work your way up to the bigger, faster bikes. Maturity is a big factor when making a decision on a bike. Alot of dealers only care about the sale, not the experience, and will sell what the customer wants, my experience the customer isnt always right in this case, any new rider with no experience should not be on a 1000 as first bike. How many times have you heard the younger generation say 600s are slow, I need a liter bike. Keep the video's coming sir.
Thanks bro, it was straight fog coming in off the ocean it was awesome
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Beginner in US and beginner in EU are also quite very different things. EU is much more strict about getting a licence at first place They have restrictions for age and power of the machine, which i actually like and think is very reasonable
Yes much different, I think we would have more riders in the US if we did the same as the EU. So many people go buy a liter bike crash/scare themselves and never ride again lol
Nice, the 650 turned out to be a much better bike than I was expecting I got to ride it earlier this year, I made a review on it if you want to check it out 2023 Kawasaki Ninja 650 Review czcams.com/video/rC7cCXMPV4E/video.html
@@ScoutsOut also if the ZX4R does reach US, the R7 is definitely going to be in trouble for beginners choice. Don’t get me wrong the R7 is a nice motorcycle, I just don’t agree with its price. I own both a 400 an R6
@@Kingnabor yea the zx6r was fun and the bike I’ve owned the longest. I needed to stop ripping that thing off n the freeway like I used to lol. I actually sold the ninja 400 and zx6r stepping down to the r7 to tame myself but also it is such a fun lightweight bike to just shred backroads and take to the track, I figured if I can out ride the r7 on the track I’ll move back up lol
Learn from my mistakes...I bought a ninja 650 as my first bike and outgrew it within 2 months, losing thousands of dollars in the process. I had never driven a motorcycle or dirt bikes prior. Piggy backing on scouts out, Find a used grom for 2-3k and learn on that. Good resale value when you ultimately decide to buy something bigger. At that point - buy the biggest and best bike you can afford and don't look back. I now own an Aprilia Tuono 1100 v4 and I could NOT be happier.
hey man quick question. could you make a video showing how to adjust spring and fork and i think its called rear shock english (preload adjustments etc. )and what their purpose is and maybe which adjustment is best for what situation ?
Definitely, it will be a little while but I’m totally doing it before I put on a new front tire and my front tire is getting really bad so hopefully soon
im 16 and the last year i have been living in peru and riding my dads 250cc cafe racer bike. I moved back to California and im 16 a looking for my first purchase for myself. I am going to take the MSF course and I'm looking to buy a R7. For my situation do you think I am ready?
Yea bro if you have been riding I think your good, just be careful of the low end power as it will wheelie easy but after first gear your good, enjoy bro
Depends on your riding style, I'm not a go really fast in a straight line kinda guy. The r7 isn't that fast you will get left by 600's and liter bikes. But if you are a backroads guy that wants a really flickable bike and power down low I'd say yes
hey, Scouts out I'm 15 turning 16 in the summer I will for sure be taking the msf course and I was wondering if you think it is ok for me to get a r7 I have no riding experience but when I do get the bike I will for sure be practicing in a parking lot or something like that before I go on the highway please give me your thoughts thx.
Not knowing you your maturity level or your possible dirt riding experience. To give you a more generic answer I would say no bro. I wouldn't let my own son ride an r7, I just got him an r3 and he is 17. I would say the best beginner bike is a ninja 400/z400 or rc390. I think people miss out on a huge learning experience on the smaller cc bikes that will gain you so much more experience than you think. I've owned and rode so many bike and I personally still go back to the small cc bikes as they are just fun to get to use all of the power they have. Sry so long winded, I hope this helps..
Hey man im going from a GSXR600 to an R7. I want a bike i can teach my wife on and stay out of legal trouble. I saw you owned a 636 before. do you still find the r7 satisfying to ride after riding an inline 4? obviously not comparable bikes. but is in enough of a bike to really enjoy when going down to it instead of up?
I do miss the inline 4s, I’ve had a few of them. But for me I am more interested in backroads riding tight slow twisties are my favorite and the r7 is better for that. As for the fun pulls on the freeway it’s not going to wow you, it’s good down low doesn’t pull super hard on the higher end of the rev range and gets to 100/110 pretty good, then slow to climb after. But I’m good with not having that anymore, it’s fun to 100 then I get out of it and spend more time enjoying it on back roads and track days
Hey man, i’m just about to turn 16, and i have ridden dirt bikes forever. I’m on a crf250, and was thinking about what bike to get. My dad use to race in the early thousands. I was thinking about an r7 because at my altitude the power reductions about 20 percent. You think the r7 is a good start?
It's hard to say not knowing you, but I had my son riding for years and started him on the streets with a grom, then crf250L and now he is on an r3. I still don't want him on the r7 but I know he could handle it now. I really think for a year or 2 a ninja 400 or z400 would be the best bet, hope this helps
The riding course should have some dirtbike training too 😂 learning to let the bike move around under you while you have no traction teaches valuable skills for those oh shit situations 🤙
I'm a 30 yo true beginner from EU. I just got my motorcylce license this week and got an R7 as my first bike. Even though the bike has a lot of power I find it very managable. The controls, clutch and throttle are much smoother than the bike I rode for riding school (BMW 700 GS). Could not be any happier with my choice for my very first bike!
Glad it’s working out for ya and that you took the riding school that’s awesome. Congrats on the new bike!
Same here bro. I'm in love. I'm not even sure I even want to change it eventually, it's more than enough for me.
I always wanted an r1, but now I don't feel like spending the money on the bike and its maintenance lol
I’ve completely changed my whole way of thinking about what bike I want.
I’m getting an R3 to start on. Love the style of it and by all accounts a great beginner bike.
The r3 is a good choice, the new versions are really nice!
@@ScoutsOut I just need to sit on one before buying obviously. I’ve been asking around if the R3 is suitable for a bigger rider. No one has been able to give me an answer though. I’m 6ft 2 , 220lbs. My worry is I’m too big for it.
Yea I would suggest sitting on it first for sure. I’m 5’10” and 200 and it was ok for me a little low but that is the nature of beginner bikes though
@HAYABUSA 82 this is the same issue I'm having I've been doing alot of research for my first bike but everyone is so small and skinny lol I'm 6'0 and 220
@Psycho Creep until the CF MOTO 450 SS comes out🤙🏽
also respect for checking all the comments and responding just liked and subed
Thanks man
My partner started on a CFMOTO 300SR after her MFS course... Perfect for her to get confident on and I found it to be a fun highway capable (90 + mph if pushed) and fun London commuter. I think for most beginners a R7 is a just two steps to far, but a Ninja 400 is great for anyone with a natural nack for riding and mature behaviour.
Well said! I’m glad she started out on the 300 that is a good choice!
Great vid as always Scout... Good job on breaking down "beginner" as well. It means something different to everyone... :D
Thanks bud 🍻
I've been riding since 1976 and think you're spot on. Personally, when it comes to getting a bike, for a rider at any level, I think Yamaha has the answer with either the MT or R lines, or both. I think the MT03 is about as good a first bike as has ever been produced. My wife went with a TW200, then a CB500F, then a R3 and XT250. However in hindsight I think a MT03 would have been the best route since is has a low seat, high/wide bars, upright seating, is light, is cheap, has low gearing, good fueling and easy to operate controls, and has enough power to easily street ride.
Regarding the R7, which I wouldn't recommend as a first bike due to the ergonomics that make low speed crashing and dumping way more likely (especially for smaller riders), I think it is a great bike for experienced riders too. I have what will be my 3rd R1 on order right now, and have a MT10 (my 2nd one), but I still love the R7. It is the proverbial "Fun = fast, light, and cheap" bike. So unlike many "beginner" bikes, it is not one that someone will almost certainly outgrow. I had a MT07 and a MT09. I liked their engines, but found their suspensions and chassis were not up to what I needed, while on the a R7, it is a great all around and very well-balanced package. Now I if I could only have one street bike, it would be a MT10. For a track bike I like the R1. But I still ride the R7 about as much as the MT10 and really enjoy it.
Here a short go-pro I did recently: czcams.com/video/IZE-7h7yB9g/video.html
That’s cool, such a fun bike
Great video mate, it was interesting to hear your view. Nice footage and good overlays. Keep up the good work and ride on. Have a nice week🤙
Thanks ck, much appreciated
Another quality video.
I agree with you, buy what makes you happy, with that being said, in some respects, I get why other countries do the whole work your way up to the bigger, faster bikes. Maturity is a big factor when making a decision on a bike. Alot of dealers only care about the sale, not the experience, and will sell what the customer wants, my experience the customer isnt always right in this case, any new rider with no experience should not be on a 1000 as first bike.
How many times have you heard the younger generation say 600s are slow, I need a liter bike.
Keep the video's coming sir.
Thanks i appreciate that, and man that new R1 of yours is sick!!
Never rode a motorcycle before and started out on a R7, love that bike
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Congrats man. Be safe.
The R7 is a decent first bike. 👌
Make sure to subscribe to this guy,
That’s a really good video. Good job, keep it up and stay safe.
Thank you, I appreciate that ride safe
Dude is the smoke you’re shrouded in? Great and helpful
Thanks bro, it was straight fog coming in off the ocean it was awesome
Beginner in US and beginner in EU are also quite very different things. EU is much more strict about getting a licence at first place
They have restrictions for age and power of the machine, which i actually like and think is very reasonable
Yes much different, I think we would have more riders in the US if we did the same as the EU. So many people go buy a liter bike crash/scare themselves and never ride again lol
Love you bro! Great video. Keep it up!
Thanks bro, I appreciate that!
I’m planning on starting a ninja 650. My goal is to ride responsible and disciplined, can’t wait to get my license!
Nice, the 650 turned out to be a much better bike than I was expecting I got to ride it earlier this year, I made a review on it if you want to check it out
2023 Kawasaki Ninja 650 Review
czcams.com/video/rC7cCXMPV4E/video.html
@@ScoutsOut I will man, thanks
If I’m gonna spend that much money on an R7 I might as well get a R6 or 636. 400 is the best starter bike in my opinion.
Those would both be great options, and I agree the 400 is the best all around starter bike
@@ScoutsOut also if the ZX4R does reach US, the R7 is definitely going to be in trouble for beginners choice. Don’t get me wrong the R7 is a nice motorcycle, I just don’t agree with its price. I own both a 400 an R6
Yea I agree and also have owned a ninja 400 and 636. If the zx4r or r4 show up next year I will be buying of of them as well.
@@ScoutsOut yeah that ZX4R looks so tempting, still debating on picking up a ZX6R in the future.
@@Kingnabor yea the zx6r was fun and the bike I’ve owned the longest. I needed to stop ripping that thing off n the freeway like I used to lol. I actually sold the ninja 400 and zx6r stepping down to the r7 to tame myself but also it is such a fun lightweight bike to just shred backroads and take to the track, I figured if I can out ride the r7 on the track I’ll move back up lol
The motorcycle safety course is free in PA so its def worth the money lol
That’s awesome
great video
Thanks 🍻
Learn from my mistakes...I bought a ninja 650 as my first bike and outgrew it within 2 months, losing thousands of dollars in the process. I had never driven a motorcycle or dirt bikes prior. Piggy backing on scouts out, Find a used grom for 2-3k and learn on that. Good resale value when you ultimately decide to buy something bigger. At that point - buy the biggest and best bike you can afford and don't look back. I now own an Aprilia Tuono 1100 v4 and I could NOT be happier.
Did you take the ninja 650 to a track?
hey man quick question. could you make a video showing how to adjust spring and fork and i think its called rear shock english (preload adjustments etc. )and what their purpose is and maybe which adjustment is best for what situation ?
Definitely, it will be a little while but I’m totally doing it before I put on a new front tire and my front tire is getting really bad so hopefully soon
this video could be like 4x longer, seems like you had a lot to share. was this edited down? cheers.
Thanks you and yes sadly i did edit down a lot , i stair at stats to much and try to keep the videos within a 8-12
im 16 and the last year i have been living in peru and riding my dads 250cc cafe racer bike. I moved back to California and im 16 a looking for my first purchase for myself. I am going to take the MSF course and I'm looking to buy a R7. For my situation do you think I am ready?
Yea bro if you have been riding I think your good, just be careful of the low end power as it will wheelie easy but after first gear your good, enjoy bro
@@ScoutsOut thanks
How good is this bike? Would it be fun as the only bike for an experienced rider?
Depends on your riding style, I'm not a go really fast in a straight line kinda guy. The r7 isn't that fast you will get left by 600's and liter bikes. But if you are a backroads guy that wants a really flickable bike and power down low I'd say yes
I have got on a motorcycle in 8-9 years. Commuted a lot in Dallas. I’m dying to get back on a 400 to get back in. Your thoughts?
The ninja or z400 from kawi are great bikes imo. What type of riding are you planning on doin?
hey, Scouts out I'm 15 turning 16 in the summer I will for sure be taking the msf course and I was wondering if you think it is ok for me to get a r7 I have no riding experience but when I do get the bike I will for sure be practicing in a parking lot or something like that before I go on the highway please give me your thoughts thx.
Not knowing you your maturity level or your possible dirt riding experience. To give you a more generic answer I would say no bro. I wouldn't let my own son ride an r7, I just got him an r3 and he is 17. I would say the best beginner bike is a ninja 400/z400 or rc390. I think people miss out on a huge learning experience on the smaller cc bikes that will gain you so much more experience than you think. I've owned and rode so many bike and I personally still go back to the small cc bikes as they are just fun to get to use all of the power they have. Sry so long winded, I hope this helps..
Hey man im going from a GSXR600 to an R7. I want a bike i can teach my wife on and stay out of legal trouble. I saw you owned a 636 before. do you still find the r7 satisfying to ride after riding an inline 4? obviously not comparable bikes. but is in enough of a bike to really enjoy when going down to it instead of up?
I do miss the inline 4s, I’ve had a few of them. But for me I am more interested in backroads riding tight slow twisties are my favorite and the r7 is better for that. As for the fun pulls on the freeway it’s not going to wow you, it’s good down low doesn’t pull super hard on the higher end of the rev range and gets to 100/110 pretty good, then slow to climb after. But I’m good with not having that anymore, it’s fun to 100 then I get out of it and spend more time enjoying it on back roads and track days
@@ScoutsOut Thanks man! Sounds like what I’m looking for! This is what I needed to know. Great videos btw!
Thanks Cody I appreciate that bro 🍻
Which alpinestars jacket is that man I love the colors but can’t find it 🙁
It’s a Celer v2, old school but I think they are better looking and have better protection then the new ones
Hey man, i’m just about to turn 16, and i have ridden dirt bikes forever. I’m on a crf250, and was thinking about what bike to get. My dad use to race in the early thousands. I was thinking about an r7 because at my altitude the power reductions about 20 percent. You think the r7 is a good start?
It's hard to say not knowing you, but I had my son riding for years and started him on the streets with a grom, then crf250L and now he is on an r3. I still don't want him on the r7 but I know he could handle it now. I really think for a year or 2 a ninja 400 or z400 would be the best bet, hope this helps
@@ScoutsOut Thanks man, i’ll probably pick up a ninja 400. Thanks!
What’s an average price to expect on insurance for r7
I am paying $38 a month for mine
depends on your age, location, how long you’ve been riding, your driving record etc.
@@moisesojeda1085 he mentioned it was a jump in price from an r3 to an R7 was just wondering what it would be ruffly
Mt03 great beginner bike..
Yea it is!
The riding course should have some dirtbike training too 😂 learning to let the bike move around under you while you have no traction teaches valuable skills for those oh shit situations 🤙
So true! That would be a great idea