Body Language Analyst REACTS to Johnny Depp Lawyers. Why did Amber Heard LOSE?
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- The Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial concluded last week with a verdict mostly in favor of Johnny Depp. This week, Depp's lawyers, Camille Vasquez and Benjamin Chew did some interviews regarding the case. But what does their body language tell us about what REALLY happened? Find out now!
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TIMESTAMPS
01:52 What Does Camille Vasquez Think of Amber Heard?
06:20 Body Language of Ben Chew
12:45 Did Social Media Affect the Verdict?
16:20 The Truth About Johnny Depp
19:20 Why Did The Jury Believe Johnny Depp More Than Amber Heard?
23:10 The Two Smiles of Camille Vasquez
26:26 What Does Ben Chew Think of Johnny Depp?
28:45 Did They Know the Verdict?
32:05 Body Language of Amber and Whitney Heard
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Hope you enjoy this breakdown! Two notes 😊…
1) There are countless conditions that can cause heavy blinking and just because someone is familiar with one it doesn’t mean that’s what it is for sure in Ben Chew’s case. Yes it CAN be a number of conditions as easily as it can not be. I, personally like to avoid speculating on medical diagnoses. I’m a behavior analyst, the physical cause for his blinking is not something I can determine, the behavioral cause is what I’m interested in and since it’s in his baseline, it doesn’t set off any red flags when it happens. That’s all I care about. I think there is a physical cause, and I think lights make it worse.
2) I thought this was clear in our discussion but some seem to be confused about it. Moving a cellphone out of the pocket out of comfort or to not sit on it would TYPICALLY look different than this gesture. Neither Chase, Rob nor I believe she did this to not sit on it. We all felt there was a deliberate movement because she wanted her cellphone for whatever reason, we can’t know what that reason is but the motion was more consistent with someone who wants to USE their phone rather than MOVE their phone. Can it be simply to not sit on it? yes. Do I think it is? no.
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Awesome video. Do you have any other evidence based recommendations than Chase Hughes for analyzing body language and behavior? Thanks
@@eddie4893 absolutely. I’m going to do a book recommendation video next weekend with a ton of stuff but I highly recommend “advanced interviewing techniques” by Joe Navarro and Jack Schafer. It’s focused on interviewing but the information in there is amazing! Science based (and they list the studies) behavior analysis. 10/10
Can Botox hinder reading expressions ?
Did anyone notice how red Amber’s hands are? Look when she’s walking towards the truck. I also noticed it when she first walked out of the courthouse.
Ben is in a class of his own. The man is top tier. Look at how he's given the platform to his junior attorney (Camille), and has allowed her to shine in these past few weeks during this trial. He's almost like her cheerleader, ready to cheer her on, support and defend her if needed. How can you not thrive working for a man like him? 👏🏾🙌🏾
She was promoted to partner now as well!
I would love to have a mentor like him.
Wonderfully said!!
I agree and I see Ben as a true mentor. But also from these interviews I see a law firm with a very healthy working environment. Between everyone on JD’s team you see trust, people working together, and true support from top to bottom. I know there are no absolutes but if I was working in the law profession I would love to work for this law firm.
That is the sign of a very good boss, and a great leader in the company. Camille is amazing and will do extremely well for the firm.
Ben and Camille have so much poise and grace compared to Elaine when talking about this case. These interviews have shown the kind of people they all are.
Camille has such an uplifting smile
Gm, this is a team who 💯 percent believe Johnny is innocent ❣️
Because elaine lost 😂😂
There is a saying, "'you are the average of the 5 people you surround yourself with.' To me, that statement in this case is very true.
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I'm a childhood abuse survivor, even as an adult I STILL "scan the room" for danger. AH sister seems to be doing that as she walks out and gets in the car. She feverishly searching AH body language for signs of danger. That poor woman needs boundaries in her life that will allow her to thrive.
yeah I noticed that, I was like AH sister was messing with her necklace and looking around and looking flighty I thought "She's acting more like a victim than Ah..."
Wow what a interesting twist🤣🤣 twisted thinking that is.
The trauma from childhood may be what you think you saw, and I'm sorry you endured that experience. As far as Amber's behavior in the Court Room, it was extremely calculated and rehearsed to "fit" her made up story of abuse from Johnny. It certainly made her look extra foolish . . . if that is even possible.
Couldn't agree more. Whitney's expressions and actions reminds me of how I'd behave with my ex husband. If i knew he was angry or on the verge of exploding into a rage, my chin would go down, I'd make myself as invisible as possible. I'd fall into step behind him and I would take all my cues from him. I think AH's victims extend to more than just Johnny Depp. I'm sorry you endured that as a child. Children are precious and should be protected at all costs.
I noticed the same.
I truly believe Ben Chew feels respect for Elaine as a lawyer. Credits to him. But it also feels like they're trying to even the fight, to lift Amber's team up as worthy opponents, instead of repeating the victimising cycle of AH's team, who keep shouting that this wasn't a fair trial. With his words of respect he says "no, this WAS a fair trial, we were EQUAL opponents." It makes their victory even greater.
I think Elaine is a good lawyer but amber messed them by feeding them her lies
If the turd won you know she wouldn't be saying it "wasn't a fair trial"
@@jonathanrosel6192 That's a good point. It would be so hard to defend someone who lies to you constantly. Plus, how do you defend someone who appears to be so clearly guilty? Her own evidence convicted her. That would be a challenge for any legal team.
@@jonathanrosel6192If Elaine were a good lawyer, or even a decent one, she would have understood leading a witness during re-direct was not allowed, that “what, if anything” is NOT a magic phrase, context is not an exclusion to hearsay, present state of mind is supported by statements made with present tense verbs….do I need to site more examples?
I couldn't imagine Ben not having respect or at least politeness towards anyone. I'm not sure Ben rottenborn has many people respecting him though. He was a cut throat lawyer. And in a civil case ,that's just not needed. I say Chris Melcher saying Camille wasn't forcing amber to answer yes or no, but camille knew that was absolutely pointless with her, she just let her ramble in some cases, because she just made herself look worse. And it would have made Camille look nasty like rottenborn was. When rottenborn was being rude to that old guy, wouldn't let him talk. That really angered me. I absolutely hated him
When Amber "cried" I didn't feel like crying, I wasn't moved by her "grief". When Ben Chew started having red eyes and tears in them, I had to stop myself from getting emotional like him. That shows me that he felt real emotions and was not acting like Amber. He's such a pleasant man.
Same!! I felt nothing when Amber testified. In fact, I rolled my eyes several times during her testimony. The exact opposite happened when Johnny testified and when Ben got emotional in the interviews. Mind you, watching Johnny testify at this trial was the first time I had heard him talk about the abuse he sustained in that relationship. I had not one preconceived notion about anything in their relationship. I did not know anything about it.
I choked up myself feeling tears welling up when I came across that part in this video. You know that that's real, what Ben is saying and expressing.
So all you women are so arrogant that you all believe your own subjective reality is objective truth without question at all times in life omg thats scary as well.
@@AriesGirl7719 same! I couldn't really stand watching Johnny's testimony live, cuz of all the pain he described, and cuz I felt so sorry for him, and I thought I coundn't stand it, if he had to lose this trial. I revisited his testimony after the verdict was announced though. As for Amber, her testimony was cringy as hell.
Exactly
Ben using “disappointed” is just more reason for me to view him as the dad in the team. It’s like the worst thing to disappoint a parent. He’s the dad I always wanted. Seems like a really sweet guy.
Omg you are so right. They could have come out here and said they were denied every allegation and said they were disgusted, and we would have all agreed because we all were when we first heard Elaine make those comments. However, Ben saying he is disappointed feels like it hits so much deeper. Like when I was young and you heard "I'm not upset, I'm just disappointed." OUCH!
I’m not angry, just disappointed…
They are wonderful people and excellent lawyers. Johnny deserves them !
Yah. I agree. Ben being the more senior attorney probably played the Dad role n that’s why Camille looked over to him for confirmation when they both started to response to the jury being influenced question. It’s very much a show of respect on her part
So much THIS! When you add the fact he brought snacks for the “whole class” aka both tables and was brought to tears in closing, you just want to hug the guy. It’s what makes me believe Johnny is always in the dad frame of mind at his core. You choose an attorney not only to represent you, but to truly BE you in the courtroom.
It’s amazing to hear that Camille made partner. She did an incredible job throughout that whole trial
One thing that makes me know how much Ben and Camille respect and believe their client is that they call him Johnny. They use his name. They have created a bond with him. It always falls flat when Elaine refers to Amber as Miss Heard when she talks about her personally.
Ben Chew getting emotional was in fact the most beautiful moment in all these interviews and in his closing. I've seen this multiple times and my eyes still tear up when I hear it.
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Yep, made me teary every time
This is more than a business and we all can see a brotherly bond between the lawyer and his client.
Same.
Even if “disappointed” was used repeatedly by Ben Chew, the word quite accurately sums up the feelings- by many on LawTube, I’ve noticed - that her rhetoric is unprofessional, and goes against the code of ethics within the legal community to respect the court, jury, and judicial process.
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She even tried to throw the Judge "under the bus".
Of course. They are amazing lawyers and I believe they are classy people. They just need to talk carefully as media may spin what they say
Can I ask a really dumb question!? What exactly is lawtube? Is it a channel? Because I've tried to find it but I can't!?? 🤷🤦
@@maryc4463 I think it's shorthand for "lawyers/legal discussion on CZcams". I've seen the similar term "booktube" used to refer to the subculture/social circle of people and channels reviewing books and talking about books on CZcams.
They are an amazing team! Ben is a kind and genuine soul. You can feel his energy through the screen when he becomes emotional. Camille keeps it to the point, yet is kind. I believe even if they had lost this case, they would have maintained the same professionalism during interviews. Amber's legal team should take notes.
Ben had the pleasure i’m working for a sane person.
Elaine will have repercussions dealing with Amber for years.
@@gypsyscometotown I don't think Elaine will care, as long as the cheques keep rolling in. She also seems to completely buy into everything Amber said and continues to say, which is telling as to her opinions of Johnny. Amber's narcissism has well and truly sucked Elaine in, I think it could be potentially career-ending for Elaine
In respect of the jurors looking at social media in evenings etc. Personally, if I was a juror in this trial, sitting through hours of trial every day, I wouldn't want to look at MORE at the end of the day and on weekends. I'd be doing anything else just to get away from it for a while. Love your channel and info, I've learned so much throughout this trial xxx
Right! And know it may confuse you!
THAT is a great point. If listening to this turgid stuff all day, you’d want to hit the shower, go for a run, play with your kids or younger siblings & _absolutely_ follow Judge Penny’s daily directive….
As a juror, you would also know that social media reactions would be very passionate and often unreasonable (that goes for supporters of both sides), given the sensitive subject matter and the celebrity factor. No surprise there. Even if they did get glimpses of that, it wouldn't contain anything unexpected.
That's a great point and I really don't think they even had to read anything as they saw it firsthand
@@cindytartt4048 Yeah, shower and scrub the dirt off for sure!
Elaine really showed her true character in her interviews and she should be embarrassed! If she wasn't, then she should be upon hearing Ben and Camille, seeing and hearing how it's done properly! As you said, they had EVERY opportunity to insult both her AND Amber, and did NOT, in any way... pure grace, poise and professionalism all the way through. Shame on Elaine for insulting the jury and court, totally unnecessary and unfounded! I OBJECT ❤️
AH's whole presentation was based on character assassination and not on evidence. It is not surprising that her lawyer clung to that strategy in defending her own failure. They were a good match.
I believe her true character showed in the court as well. Maybe that's because I can sense energy, even across the screen. I should be practicing energy healing more!
She is a FOOL. After that last interview and the panel not believing her is why she cancelled those other interviews. She is old enough and been a lawyer long enough to know better. Elaine screwed herself bc she's scared of AMBER HEARD
Facts, that's why I was confused when everybody said they felt bad for Elaine that she had no case because of her client. She took the case having to know who her client was. She had to have known Amber was lying from the UK trial. She mocked Johnny Depp and was rude to witnesses. I never felt bad for her, but apparently many people did during the trial. Her interviews after just confirmed what I always felt. They're just not good people.
@@EasyBreezy24 EXACTLY! They were not court appointed attorneys, they knew perfectly well who and what Amber was! They CHOSE to take her case on. And even if, someone wants to pity Elaine before the verdict (like you, I don't, she was awful!), her behavior afterwards was inexcusable. The epitome of a sore loser!
Everyone throughout this trial could see how much Ben and Camille believe in Johnny's innocence and how hard they fought for him. I thought it was so beautiful to see.
Throughout the trial I thought the same thing. In comparing both sides of lawyers I thought Amber's lawyers were terrible. Now I don't think that way. Amber's side knew she was a nut and totally guilty so they had to represent her the best way they could. No warmth, no conviction of her innocence cuz they knew! Johnny's side knew he was innocent and worked very well knowing that.
My god how Pathetic
@@SixSioux shut up, Amber!!!
😂🤣You gotta be joking ! They were as surprised as the rest of the world when he won this sham of a trial . They know he ONLY won becos he is JD ‘Jack S ‘ .....NOT becos he’s innocent . A total travesty of justice . OJ celebrity trial all over again . Utter farce
HE knows he’s guilty; YOU know he’s guilty ; WE ALL KNOW HE IS AS GUILTY AS FFFFFF .
If he tried any of misogynistic abusive shit on Camille she would chew him up and spit him out in 5 seconds flat . She was paid to do a job & got rich defending a woman hating user and serial abuser . Social media madness won this trial ...not truth or justice . Total circus everyday
@@equatorialjourney4478 lmao are you Eve Barlow 🤣
The sincerity that Ben and Camille express in their communications is so heartwarming and inspiring. Hearing him describe the "moment of victory" with the jury is emotional indeed.
I’m not an expert on human behaviour, but what struck me immediately when I first saw Ben Chew is that he seems to have a minor tic. He blinks very profoundly (his eyebrows move as well). He even does that when he’s listening to Camille answering a question. I don’t understand why you haven’t picked up on that. It’s just the way he is.
And btw, I love him for being so genuine!
I thought that it was a tick for him when he's put in the spotlight. Other talk shows had other people to divert from the main spotlight, I guess.
Also, tics can be affected by fluorescent lighting and stress
It’s a baseline mannerism possibly exacerbated by lights.
You're right.
In am an rn, I also it a facial tic
I think it's silly to say the jury were "swayed by social media" when we came to those conclusions from seeing *the exact same things the jury saw.*
Of course they were swayed by social media. How could they not when AH introduced the hashtags to the jury? Was it planned as something to blame the potential loss on which they felt might be coming? Unfortunately if the trial wasn't watched, nobody would know that.
exactly! like they dont need watch anything else bc everything on the court was enough and clear for everyone, amber get down herself pretending and lying on our faces.
I hear talks about swaying and how Amber's team kept complaining about her portrayal in social media. But are they not prohibited from using these kinds of sites during the trial? How can It then be of any consequence in said trial?
I mostly agree… but there’s something to be said for social contagion. It’s *possible* for public opinion to become a downhill runaway train, in a way it never could with 9 people isolated from one another to formulate initial opinions, and then brought to a room to debrief, negotiate and decide.
Also, some of us listened to audio recordings and such that were NOT included.
For a long time now, watching Camille meet with crowds of fans, it seems to me that she's a very private person. She likes the love and appreciation that she's getting but she doesn't really like all the attention that she's getting. She wants to influence women to pursue a legal career but she still wants her privacy and I think the public has to recognize and understand this.
I hope Camille realises that she is Iconic now. She represented Woman in many strong positions, and was able to do so Respectfully... Considering the topics involved with the Trial
I think you're wrong about the phone. She was already uptight , she was simply grabbing it so as not to sit on it. That's pretty self telling!
people need to start respecting ✨ boundaries ✨
After learning about hearsay and speculation during this trial, i totally understand, why Camille didn't say anything about what the jury thought, but only about her own motivation and opinions! Well done, Camille!
Very professional.
Camille is psychpath. She thinks she is a star and everyone else is shit. She seems to be nice but this is only a mask. I can prove it, but that would reqire a lot of words and video insertions...
It's just so pleasant to see a humble, honest, and sensitive person win against a hateful lying gold digger. It is! This case made me respect JD more for his real self inside than his acting. I can appreciate how beautiful AH is and after the trial I've never disliked any actress as much as this EVER
She may have been pretty once... when younger. But her sneering and condescension.. let alone her botox and filler cheeks makes her very unattractive in my eyes. Nasty
as soon as Elaine said, "the first thing amber said is, 'I'm so sorry for all those women!" I had a brain aneurysm. That shows she's not opposed to straight up lying. Amber has never said anything even close to that, unless she's on some talk show promoting herself.
It's her PR who told her to say these words . Definitely not coming from Amber 🙌
@@YokoFuongAnh That makes more sense. But ironic that Amber is taking PR advice from a person with a history of SA.
It's such BS because I could not imagine Amber thinking of anybody else but herself! And by Elaine uttering those words you know you know that it was a total lie coming out of her mouth.
I think the first thing Amber would have said was I can't believe I lost she would never ever have been thinking of anyone else but herself
She said she was sorry... because she thought her lies might have damaged future cases (they haven't, because the abuse victim won).
I’ll bet the first thing Amber said to Elaine was, “fix this!“.
The moment that really nails the Proud Flaw aspect of Depp, is when he was being admonished about drinking in the morning, he replied "Isn't happy hour any time?" with an innocent tone, as if Rottenborn was his dad... It was ridiculous to try and villainize an adult for drinking, and he knew he didn't need to feel sorry for it.
What really blows my mind is how Elaine and amber keep saying social media played a part but even if it did it was clips of THE TRIAL! We watched the trial and saw her bs but we just got a chance to talk about it more and call it what it was. It wasn’t made up things going around it was clips of the trial and ppl playing the whole trial and discussing it! The jury saw the same thing we saw at home while watching the trial
This is an incredibly solid point! It's not as if any of the jury members were going to see or hear info on social media that they weren't privy to every day in that courtroom!
@@christineholter2195the problem would be if they saw any opinions on the trial. If they saw a headline saying "Johnny Depp refutes wild claims of S**ual A**ault" then even that would be an issue because it implies that other people think that Amber's testimony and claims are ludicrous, which could easily sway the jury.
Ben's emotional response gets me every time. To me that is one of the most telling aspects of this whole dog and pony show. I felt no emotional connection to any of AH's testimony. The only time I saw any real emotion from her was her rapid breathing during the verdict reading, and that felt more panicky and oh sh*t than sadness or defeat.
And she was livid when she stormed out of court after Elaine's awful cross exanimation. Even ignoring the judges instruction to return to her counsels table. I bet she cried tears of anger once she got out of the court
exactly
When Ben Chew gets emotional during the interview, it immediately makes me connect emotionally because it’s real and heartfelt. On a gut level, without even intellectualising it I know it’s real.
Contrast with Amber Heard, I felt nothing when she “cried”. It wasn’t emotional and it wasn’t real. I can intellectualise why and point to the reasons but on a gut level I immediately knew.
It was pretty obvious from the beginning Heard was lying, we’re not stupid!
Shes crying for her self.
@@mimirsvision9929 And yet there is a Harvard Prof who believes she was telling the truth. it is absolutely amazing how clueless some people are can be. To be so delusional to believe a liar like Amber, means you have absolutely zero life skills and you will be a sucker your entire life...
Yes and you worded that perfectly 👌🏻
I think emotionally connecting with others is very much ingrained in human nature. When we sense dishonest emotions, we have trouble connecting. That's with Amber. When she's recounting her stories of horrible abuse, no one wept with her. Instead, we felt uncomfortable and wanted her to stop.
Camille is seriously such a wonderful role model for young women.
Not only young women. I'm almost her age and she inspires me!
And Old ones like me!
@@movingforward3030 you’re young lol
@@goodmorningbeautifulhumans1638 lol. I wish.
Yeah!! She is congratulations Camille 👏👏👏👏
It’s difficult to keep your composure, and show class, when you’re suffering from a self-inflicted case of word vomit. Elaine couldn’t stop moving, she shakes her head back and forth, and it appears that she’s searching for approval. But with JD’s team, they’re calm, they choose their words carefully, and take the high road. They’re a perfect example of, ‘Respect is earned!” Because they’ve definitely earned MY respect, and the respect of so many others!
I watched multiples times Ben being soooo proud of the juniors during this trial. He congrated them, showed his support and trust. One of their forces was the chemistry between all of team, the complementary, their proactivity… We see and talk a lot about Ben and Camille. But Wayne Dennison was very good and make me laugh several times! 😂 He was far the best lawyer to cross-examinate Dr Spiegel. 💙
Absolutely
Ben Chew's eye blinking was very familiar to me. My late father had essential blepharospasm which is a disorder that gave him excessive eye blinking (spasms of the eyelids) especially when the light is shining in his face. When I first saw Chew's eye blinking, I figured he had the same disorder. It looked just like my father's eye blinking.
Wow thanks for this! Makes perfect sense, like I said in the video, I think the blinks are in his baseline but light seems to make them worse.
Yes, it was very reminiscent of this.
My Mom was diagnosed with blepharospasms , I was curious if he had it too
I thought the same... Pretty sure about it..
I have noticed similar eye blinking from people who had suffered head concussion or in business meetings where CEO explaining businesses plans.
“domestic violence has no gender” “don’t try to destroy someone’s life with lies when yours can be destroyed with the truth” “don’t play the victim to circumstances you created”👍
Yeah, I really wish he had included that answer. I understand that it doesn't have a ton of body language to analyze but it is such an important question and answer from a strong woman like Camille so I think it needs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Didn't know that Mark Ruffalo was doing body language analyses in his spare time. Anyways, thanks for this video, I really need more Depp vs Heard related content now that the trial is over
Haha I came here to say this too
lmao underrated comment
I love the respect and real emotion that their law firm put into the defense of Johnny Depp. They actually appeared uncomfortable and apologetic for information that they had to share in court… that were unbelievably personal and painful to JD. Camille seemed to take her role as JD’s lawyer very personally, wearing her pain and anger on his behalf on her sleeve… and not taking the BS that AH was trying to sell or letting her lie about her client. “Not on my watch! Oh hell no!” I was proud of his team, and feel truly sorry for Johnny for what he endured over the time spent with AH… go team JD! And I’m embarrassed to admit that I sided with AH from the beginning of her claims, until I saw with my own eyes AH’s lies. For that, .Johnny I’m sorry. I’m a SA victim/survivor… and I know that SA knows no gender. I am sorry I doubted Johnny Depp.
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You didn’t comment on this but I absolutely loved Ben’s repeated, big, proud smiles when the subject of Camille’s promotion came up. He looked so genuinely happy and proud of her. The tension of being professional in the context of a TV interview just melted away for a moment in celebration of his Partner.
Everything I've seen and heard shows that Ben is a great team leader and mentor. He was definitely proud of Camille and the rest of the team. Their team spirit and team work were starkly different from that of the Heard team. Ben and his team truly believed in Depp and were passionate in helping him clear his name.
In contrast, Heard's team were disorganised and disjointed, almost going through the motions - there were no signs to indicate they believed passionately in her supposed innocence. They were paid to do a job, and did it. They didn't even do it that competently because their hearts were simply not in it.
Depp's team were well organised and competent and did top notch work. Camille's cross examination helped to crack open the facade of a lying narcissist abuser, and the truth about Amber was exposed for the world to see. And Depp finally got justice.
@@citadelofwinds1564 to be honest that could also have been due to being micromanaged by their client. I think motivation is hard to maintain in such a situation.
@@RogerValor , Definitely. Someone like Heard would have insisted on calling the shots. In contrast, Depp seems to have trusted his team to get on with the job and was willing to listen to their advice. He cooperated with his team; Heard was a millstone dragging down her team.
the way ben spoke about all the female lawyers on his team was so lovely. it is interesting to see the way johnny's team were a reflection of his character. i don't think any of the lawyers on his team cared about the potential fame they might get from their involvement of this trial. they wanted johnny to get the justice he deserved and that was fulfilling enough. in tv and film male lawyers are often portrayed as having massive egos and it is nice seeing someone like ben chew representing the large percentage of lawyers who are not that way at all.
Johnny's team is just classy and they don't need to stoop to that level. I'm so happy he found them. They really took great care of him and formed an incredible bond. Thank you for all of your insights. I love the way you present all your information.
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I believe she knows very well she already lost the case..
I have a theory about Whitney pulling out the phone. I think it was avoidance from interacting with Amber in the car. Its much easier to avoid engaging with someone if you have something else to distract yourself with. I notice several people avoiding Amber immediately after the verdict including her lawyers who waited for others to follow Amber out before they left the court room. I can imagine what went on in the back room before they left the court house. Thank you Spidey and Rob for your analysis. Its been enlightening.
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Amber looked Pissed and I honestly think she grabbed her phone to cover up that she flinched a little as Amber entered the car. I think she knows Amber would never do something in front of cameras but I think the tension was very visible, and I think anyone would have flinched at any sudden movement in that tension.
I can totally relate with that cluster that camile does in the beginning, removing of hair, or fixing something on the body, for me though it stems from nervousness before a job interview or presentation. I kind of felt she was nervous, she might have been camera shy in the past and has overcome it but not entirely.
I think Ben's blinking could also be facial tics.
One of the first things I noticed about Ben was that he had facial and body "tics". My daughter also has "tics". Things like heavy blinks, scrunching of her nose and mouth, arm/shoulder movements, clearing of her throat etc. These tics always become more noticeable and frequent when she is nervous or anxious.
Ben's tics happened less when he was doing the interview with Camille and he wasn't as nervous, but then we notice them become much more frequent and pronounced when he was doing the interviews on his own and would be understandably more nervous.
Just a thought, I may be wrong but it seems quite likely to me.
I agree with you. Thought the same.
Yes, I agree, I was looking for a comment like this.
Yes exactly
I'm glad to hear that there are others who thought the same!
I thought the same about tics! My 10 year old has tic disorder and when she's tired, anxious, nervous or experiencing something uncomfortable? Her tics ramp up.
Eff, I teared up when Ben Chew's voice cracked. The emotion translates through the screen. It's genuine. I also liked how he said 'we believe in him otherwise we wouldn't have worked with him.'
Ben conducted his 'team' by sitting back and relaxing. It set a good example for everyone else as they calmly got on with doing their jobs in a professional manner. They didn't need to engage in histrionics to defend their clients what we saw was a labour of love by everyone in team Johnny. It was a privilege to watch.
Your videos are mesmerizing- thank you. I’m always amazed at how much I learn in such a short time. You also have a very gentle, empathetic, non judgmental persona. But what I really want to thank you for is pointing out that light eyed people are more sensitive to light, especially fluorescent lights. I am blue eyed and also suffer from dry eye . It is so frustrating when people assume that I’m blinking due to anxiety or that I’m hiding something. Thank you for pointing out that blinking is sometimes a physical response and not an emotional one. It’s the first time I’ve heard anyone acknowledge that. And I just want to add one more thing. Many people are allergic to dust mites. Depending on the room itself ( carpeting, lots of books in a library, etc.), that can also lead to blinking.
So, when Elaine was on Good Morning America, Nate asked her, in short, if she and the attorneys representing Amber, have, since the guilty verdict, looked in the mirror, so to speak, and thought about what she could’ve done different. Her response was “that’s a good question”, then proceeded to say how disappointed Amber was because she let down all of the women who have been abused. WHAT? Hello Elaine, Amber was not mentioned in this question.
Do videos on whatever seems most interesting at the time. You don't need to close chapters. I appreciate your work and integrity. Thank you.
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Exactly.
@@rickrolled3666 not this time
Also, why not continue when he reliably gets 2+ million views? Clearly people like these videos.
Exactly, if there's still meat on the bone then make more content on it.
It's so cute that the one time Ben Chew gets exited and looks like he's really eager to talk is when the topic is the success of Camille Vasquez. He just really likes to say nice things about other people ❤️
I love everything about Ben
@@Truthseeker-kc8rd so true
@@Truthseeker-kc8rd I don't know that many lawyers but I'd definitely prefer a guy like him :) And it's nice to see that people like Ben Chew can make it to the top in a business that is often so cynical and calculating. So yeah, just heart warming :)
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Ben Chew had more real tears in 5 seconds than AH had the whole trial. Truly touching
Camille Vasquez and Benjamin Chew are top tier professionals. Being so nice to the opposition makes them even better people and better lawyers than thier opposition. It creates even more contrast between the two legal teams.
Speaking as a (German) lawyer myself: it would be VERY unprofessional to diss a colleague in public. That's a sign of weakness. Only a REAL shyster or loser would do that. What you say behind closed doors or think is a different story. Says a lot about the quality of AH's Team that they cannot abide by that simple rule... bit then it's possible they're just scared of being sued themselves.
Camille and Ben are true professionals. They really care about their client and can express their opinions without insults.
You mean sued by Amber?
You mean they ARE abiding by that rule
I agree. I believe Ben Chew was a real gentleman on TV specifically for that reason! sc rew Elaine! He's just being professional. Not only is he representing his law firm, but also the Virginia State bar, the Virginia Bar Association and legal professionalism/discretion in general.
@@katfromthekong414 , yes, sued by their Client. She seems the Type.
The choke up by Ben is profound, & I immediately feel what he is feeling! Makes me love him all the more! He is a hero for all victim's of abuse! Everyone who has suffered would love to work with a team like this! 👌
What victim of abuse?
@@negativezonecollectibles187 Johnny dear. That man who won
Love that you left it to your audience as to whether to keep going - Personally tired if the subject but you asked and acted accordingly, instead of just analyzing what you wanted. Love love love this.
Spidey, thank you so much for your dedication to this trial and its surrounding events. You have provided so much invaluable information and you’ve educated us with life long lessons we can carry with us forever! You are so very much h appreciated and I will definitely stick around for your future videos. ❤️❤️
I think it speaks volumes to both their professionalism and them as people that Ben and Camille talked about what they, themselves, did RIGHT, whilst Elaine talked about what everyone else did WRONG.
Great and true point
Amber and Elaine are a perfect match. Both blaming everyone else, zero accountability.
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It definitely speaks volumes, great point.
I guess it comes down to the fact that Ben and Camille won and Elaine lost the case..
As a recovering alcoholic myself I think Johnny acknowledging his issues with drugs and alcohol had an even bigger affect on me. I do not equate alcoholism and addiction with bad or immoral people and unfortunately many still do. Also I think Amber’s team’s decision to demonize Johnny specifically for his issues of addiction really upset me.
Well said...!!!!
Well said, when Johnny tried to talk about that, AH Lawyer kept interrupting him.
@@Theflowoflove AH knows very well she gon loose the case, well it's al God.
Melissa, how are you doing today? Trust you having a great day
Well done on your sobriety, keep going and hold that head high ☺️
I think that Ben knows we all know what Elaine did/did not do. Letting us fill in/ come to conclusion of our own, AND give cudos to him for being so kind. He seems to be a humble man, a kind man and a talented attorney. There are just so many terrific things about him.
So marvelous to hear you talk about Chase Hughes!!! He is a favorite of mine! I'm just so thrilled to know you two know , and apparently like, each other. I frequently watch you and the Behavior Panel...and you usually, if not always, agree!!!😊
You're the best of ALL analysts, I love listening to your voice and thorough, objective way of explaining everything! I know you said "no more" of AH, but here she is again! Now on the Today show with Savannah and others, campaigning that her trial with Johnny Depp was unfair. I would love it if you would do some more analysis of these interviews! ❤️
The thing that amazed me the most about Ben Chew is that he is really very expressive and manages to involve you and convey emotions in a unique way. For example, when he got emotional in the interview, the tears immediately came to my eyes. Unlike Amber's testimony which, apart from cross-examinations, gave me nothing but confusion and nervousness
Very true. I also teared up a little watching him.
Same 😢
Awww, when did Ben get emotional? Which interview was it?
Nevermind, I had to continue watching the video to see it, lol. And oh my goodness, that was so precious. ♥️
He is authentic.
Reply to 27:17: you don't have to study anything to FEEL the genuineness of Ben Chew's emotional answer!! I got tears in my eyes while watching the verdict, and I get tears in my eyes when seeing him become emotional in these moments! He truly believes in Johnny's innocence.
Same! And this is why, as an empathetic person, I absolutely know AH’s emotional displays were faked. I felt nothing. Or at one point I even giggled because it was so absurd. In contrast, all it takes is for me to remember Ben’s eyes to well up and his voice shaking for a split second, and I start to have the exact same response.
@@echothegoodwolf exactly!!!
Oh man, the hand-to-chest analysis really got me. A few months ago my partner of 10 years left me, and during the break-up chat I remember almost semi-consciously (i was in a daze of despair) wondering why I kept holding my heart and my chest area with my open hand. That's the only time in my life i've reacted with that involuntary reflex. It still is hands down the worst thing i've ever been through (and the few months since).
I hope you're doing ok
I'm so grateful that I wasn't a juror in this trial. I can't imagine going 6 weeks, without any media, social or otherwise, while not being able to discuss the case with anyone I know, who is definitely watching those things. I'd probably go insane. Taking a breather from social media, or from watching TV, whatever is doable on its own. But during this particular trial, it was such a major topic of conversation for everyone. That would make having any social interaction nearly impossible. That alone would be insufferable to me. I have great respect for these jurors, because it really didn't appear like they broke their oath, and they took their responsibility seriously. IMHO
As an Empath, Ben’s emotions got mine, I teared up with him because he really felt that and it was such a pure feeling! On the other hand all I felt watching Amber on the stand, for example, was cringy and uncomfortable and even triggered
Re: Amber on the stand, I totally agree. Second hand embarrassment, real bad!
Same. As soon as I feel Ben’s tears I get choked up and start crying. I can just sense he’s such a genuine person.
I'm not an empath and I felt the same way
@@haadikhan9729 Most people are empathic to varying degrees. As social animals, it's part of our biological makeup. A lack of empathy is generally classified as a disorder. So I disagree with you! :) You are probably an empath, even if you don't go around telling everyone about it.
@@jeanhartely I disagree. I am a normal individual with empathy like yourselves. No cringy label. No empathy=disorder. Empathy=normal.
The pronoun shift from “I” to “we” I believe comes from her not wanting the spot light and deflecting to the team. As well as a genuine appreciation to the team’s efforts to winning the case.
She did the same thing in public when a reporter was asking questions. She had a embarrassing smile and kept mentioning that it was a team effort.
Also from my personal experience as a manager, when I’m getting praised from owners/executive council, I deflect from the personal praise to the team’s effort because I want them to have that admirable energy directed to my team.
I have no doubt that she has an excellent team burning the midnight oil trying to pull out rebuttals and tracking all these people that came out such as Morgans. Believe me, you don’t look that polished without an excellent team.
Yes, i am also "awfull" at getting compliments.
I absolitly like being appriciated (because i do give 500%).
But at same time i get same embarassed reaction as she got. (Sort of want it to be finished, but trully appriciate the recognizions, please let it be over;)
I love this. I thought the same thing, instantly.
I also thought the same thing as you when he was talking about it.
my daughter does the same thing about sharing the praise of a job well done . she will tell her district manager in a heart beat that "Without my team I couldn't have done this ." As a manager she gets a bonus every 3 months and she shares that with her team anywhere from $50.00 to $100.00 each to each person depending on the bonus amount. because she tells them the same thing " I couldn't do this without U." she has an awesome crew and she has so meny that want to work under her, not so much for the money as for the mutual respect she gives to her crew. They call her an angel boss. but she doest let anyone walk on her , No means No and Now means Now. lol.
I think Johnny must be a really incredible person to inspire such loyalty in all the people around him. I mean, wow!
You and Rob have always been so respectful of each other and praising of one another’s expertise. It’s seriously so refreshing to see two intelligent men giving each other full, reactive responses that directly pick up where the other left off.
I feel they were very tactful, classy, professional & careful with their responses...a stark difference from AH’s camp. Camille & Ben saying they’re disappointed is a tactful way of not being disrespectful, but more like reprimanding a child for catching his hand in a cookie jar😝 I appreciated their interview, felt it was up front & with team effort. They’re above board & it’s evident!
Agreed! And wow, wouldn’t it be great if we as a people spoke a bit more like them. Not that it’s bad to call something wrong, but I love that they act in such respectful ways.
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Yes, I think the word "disappointed" was the best most polite substitute they could find for "she f'ed up".
I don't think this is about political correctness, I think it's just about being respectful of the opposing party and setting an example of professionalism. They addressed the questions directly while still giving the other side the space and opportunity to be professional equals and rise to that level. It diffuses the blame game the other side was trying to do, and it's classy AF.
I agree, they put on a master class on how to be gracious winners. Good on them.
I agree. It’s a test book for how winners reply
Agreed.
I agree. I have been really disheartened as to how much professional has been so often kicked to the wayside these days. Great way of phrasing it, too.
I watched the video of them leaving the courthouse over and over and after seeing you and Law & Lumber talk about the deliberate move for her cell phone made me think that Whitney was responsible for sending the tweet out for amber. It would be interesting to see exactly what time it was when they walked out and how long it took for the tweet to appear.
I agree
i like it a lot and its very important that you study and acknowledge the baseline of whoever’s body language you are interpreting. i see a lot of analysts skip that part, or at least skip addressing it in their video. i like that you include that as its one of the most important parts. great analysis as always 😊
When I first heard Ben Chew mention about Johnny writing his own scripts, the first thing I thought of was that he wanted to make sure that he jotted down all of his thoughts and didn’t forget anything. I’ve unfortunately dealt with narcissists and gaslighters , and I’ve found it helpful that when I didn’t say what I initially wanted to say, I write down what I wanted to say and then address the narcissist with what I really want to say, once I decided I wasn’t going to accept their behavior. I feel like Johnny was probably trying to do the same thing. This is the first time that Johnny was able to speak the truth. Great analysis! I love Ben and Camille! They come off as truly genuine. #thankGodJusticewasServed
Same thing for me, when I have difficult/emotional talks upcoming I will have at least a post it note with most important topics. And when going to the therapist as well, and when I was testifying to the police about some two people getting into the fight - to put all I remember on paper in quiet, and not get messed up or stuck due to stress or emotion.
I am going to start doing this! Thank you!
Absolutely agree with you in this.
I have had to do this with narcissistic spouse. This way when he would start and blame me for everything I was ready with talking points.
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This team has class! Refreshing to see them taking the high road by giving the benefit of the doubt at every opportunity. They convey trust in our judicial system effectively.
Please keep the JD & AH Analysis coming. They are so informative. Thank you so much for your hard work!
Great video! I really appreciate that we can see integrity where there's so much dishonesty happening in the world...With Spidey and his buddies; with Ben Chew and Camille. It's very heartening! I do think that this is why so many related to Johnny. The world said, "We will accept a human with flaws and imperfections," perhaps in large part because they are sick of the liars out there?
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Honestly, when I watched and heard Ben Chew get emotional in those interviews, it really hit home. I could feel that he was being genuine.
Even from his gestures and demeanor inside the courthouse. I'd observed that as stoic as he may seem, he was equally quite expressive: the eyebrow flashes, exchange of glances and of course, the fist bump.
It's been quite interesting following the court sessions paired with your analysis of the events surrounding the trial.
Really love what you're doing on this channel and I'm looking forward to watching and learning more. :)
I would guess that Ben Chew also has children and so empathizes with Johnny's absolute dedication to not harming his children. Depp said in one of the recordings, "She is trying to alienate me from my children." That is the type of thing that malignant narcissists do. It gave Amber Heard pleasure to try and destroy the kids' love for their dad. I think Ben Chew knew of Depp's terror at the harm he saw himself exposing them to. Hopefully Johnny forgives himself and both kids are okay now. Malignant narcissists are very capable of deceiving for a while.
I didn't know the first thing about JD before the trial. I respected the way he owned up to his faults/mistakes and didn't try to hide or deny anything. It added so much to his credibility. Can't have been easy, I admire his strength in going through with it. Like just lay it all open, got nothing to lose.
Ben and Camille are just so professional and courteous. They have so much class. Things like blaming or accusing are beneath them. I loved their warmth and interactions with each other and JD in court and it's carried on it's a constant.
I never noticed Whitney's going for her phone was so deliberate, that was lost on me. Their walk to the car feels like she's almost walking on egg shells, like she knows how to deal with (or rather avoid) Amber because she's been there before. Like stay clear, don't volunteer words lol, and don't do anything to aggravate her current state of mind and that temper.
I love learning from your videos and they're just so entertaining. I can't get enough! 🖤
Ditto…every word
I totally agree 100%
I agree. I knew Johnny as an actor only and honestly I wasn't into the pirates. After knowing the personal side and after hearing about AMBER, I knew instantly she was a liar bc almost once in most PPLS lives of having mates we almost all have had an AMBER... I can connect to Johnny and cringed towards Amber bc I was married to a person like Amber. I just didn't allow it to get to him hitting me. Then I know how they flip lies and own the victims story to making it theirs. Even after my ex I dated 2 more men who were severe liar's. I ran away fast after seeing truth and red flags... I can't be around liar's. It does something to my soul and they are dangerous and lean on the public for bad behavior.
I think Whitney just didnt wana sit on her phone so she pulled it out. It was in her backpocket so it would have been uncomfy sitting on it
Really enjoy your breakdowns of these cases and behaviors. I feel like I am always learning.
Amazing video, as always. I love your channel! Thank you for taking us through the process of behaviour analysis with you!
When Amber and Whitney walked out of the courthouse I felt like Amber was angry and Whitney was nervous because Amber was angry. It reminded me of myself and my abuser. When he was angry but not yet in a rage I began watchful and nervous. I would try to comfort myself, and be less noticeable to keep him from zeroing in on me. Which is kind of what I felt like Whitney was doing.
Yes!
It sure looked that way. Although, she might have also felt threatened by the media and crowd outside the courthouse. The most telling thing was what I did not see. There was no connection between them, no emotion expressed, no eye contact, no support.
I completely agree.
I know that feeling being a survivor myself
My impression was she was waiting for the volcano to blow and hoping to stay out of the blast range.
The word “disappointed” is actually a lot more impactful that I think one might think. When someone you respect, or at least respect their view of you, and they’re “disappointed,” it can feel awful. For a person that tends to be preoccupied on some level with the perception of others when I was younger, that was my mom’s best weapon. She would say “I’m not angry, I am just so disappointed. I know you can do so much better.” Nothing was more effective.
This is a really good point! That makes me remember my favorite teacher from 6th grade, my gym teacher. I'd often forget my gym clothes and one day she said she was disappointed and I had to try so hard not to break down crying.
It always killed me when my dad said he was disappointed in me. It was the worst.
Yes!!! 💯 I would have rather been yelled at then told someone was disappointed in me.
When I was little, if my mum said to me “I’m VERY disappointed with you” I knew I’d done something bad
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I think one thing that also needs to be taken into account is the fact that the defamation counter-suit was against Johnny's former lawyer, something that his lawyer said, so Camille and Ben were VERY careful about what they said and how they responded to some of the leading/baiting questions.
Yes...and the first thing Elaine did was open her mouth, making herself vulnerable to a defamation suit. She learned absolutely nothing from this trial!
I personally love seeing Law and Lumber on your videos! The body language knowledge bouncing off the Lawyer knowledge, it's it's perfect. I was happy to see him featured; really hope you two collaborate more
That's actually what I loved about Camille how she used Amber's own words against her, brilliant. Ya, she definitely is just being very careful what words she used. Trying to make the best of the time without hurting the case. I love how they both took the high ground, so respectful, shows what kind of integrity they have. I would of had trouble maintaining my integrity at that point.
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Ben chew is a sincere person to the furthest point . Those clips when he got emotional,I LITERALLY had tears in my eyes . Such a great respectful person that I’ll be honored to meet .
I'm not crying there is just a lot of dust in here. Ok?
Yes! I saw those clips multiple times now and he's giving me a lot of emotional response as well, especially the Law & Crime one: teared up every single time!
I love when you & Rob collaborate…. It’s interesting to watch. You guys work really well together. Also, it was fun to see some older Spidey clips! Thank You for another amazing analysis video! 😄
Ben' s reactions are so real and heartfelt. He was on a crusade to save Johnny. Camile is a gem ....love her
I had no doubt that he totally believed Johnny
Re “disappointed”: something I picked up in parenting is to-instead of saying I’m mad at you or how could you do that etc-say I’m disappointed (not “in you”, just disappointed). The reasoning is that it removes much of the emotional weight and feels less personally debilitating to the child (and is then segued into a conversation). When I hear Chew speak about EB I think about how he sounds more like a parent than an adversary. Aaaaannnnddddddd: they’re also not giving ammo to the other team w their responses-DIFFUSION! Well done
Agree 💯
I don't know if this is a cultural thing or not, but disappointing someone is also way worse than making them angry - after all, if you disappoint someone it means they had higher hopes for you or put you to a much higher standard and you broke that to such a degree that it doesn't even evoke anger, but simply disappointment. The blow you gave by letting them down is so severe, that there is no energy to spare on anger.
Yep, used to say to my kids I'm not angry just disappointed. Worked wonders.
That simple phrase, I'm disappointed, is pure truth with no blame. ❤️
lol That's pretty much what I would say during watch parties, "I'm not mad at Elaine, just disappointed" - Ben Chew dad mode 😁
Ah yes, I see what you mean about the cell phone in pocket. She was actually prepping to get it long before she even got to the door, I didn't notice that before. I'd likely not think to move my phone until I was about to get in the truck, because my phone would not be on my mind until the moment I needed to move it out of the way.
What a nice finishing touch to my (belated) journey! While Amber provided a lot of material for analysis, it's so much more satisfying to see justice prevail and people who strongly appear to be of integrity stick together. Ben says they'd never taken on the case if they didn't feel genuine about Johnny, too. Love it, felt that. Nothing like Elaine doing a double take and realizing that they should probably hug, too. You know, for show. Amber and her lawyers created just that, a grandiose show which lacked honesty.
Ben is a good person.I have never seen such a good attorney. Attorneys are usually like Amber's team which I despise and wonder how some of them can sleep at night.
Yeah
Have met a few like Ben! Praying we get more like him!
@#PrisonForJohnnyDepp no you don’t. You’re a liar and spreading hate and misinformation. If you’d honestly “transcribed that in court” then it would have been presented in this court - and it wasn’t! So stop trying to defend Scamber Turd! Hope you were paid well for selling your soul to satan! You’re a sick POS! If there was anywhere that level of info - Amber would have leaked it but she hasn’t has she? Nope! You’re the worst type of person alive! Go away!
I have never met one like Ben or Camille and I worked at a law firm. Most are definitely Elaine and her crew. I can’t remember one lawyer I’ve met in person I didn’t feel was a creep. The firm I worked for did mostly business law too. Snakes
"Disappointed" is a word I use often with my kids. I try to stay away from "You made me so mad...", etc. It's a a softer word that I think carries more meaning behind it. I love these two...🥰
I'm so glad you went back to this.
I'm so glad you mentioned the Prat effect. One thing that struck out to me about Heard's testimony was when she said "I'm not perfect" (and Elaine parroted that line in one of her talk show appearances, I believe). It was important to me cause she SAYS she's not perfect, and yet she never admits WHY and what it is that she's done wrong. Instead, every time someone brings up bad things she did, even the non-illegal ones, she avoids taking the blame. This is one of the most common forms of manipulation I've experienced and seen: when someone says they're "not perfect" and "are trying to be better", but don't admit what they did wrong, it's almost always their attempt to placate who they're speaking to. They want to make you believe that they know what they did is wrong and are sorry for it, when in reality all they're doing is avoiding repercussions of what they did by slapping a band-aid on an open wound.
TRUE.
(Although, intentionally/ maliciously/ manipulative people aren't always the only people who can or will do that, too.)
I have totally been in a relationship with somebody like this! If I ask them if they thought they ever made mistakes they would say stuff like “of course they make mistakes I’m human like everyone else”… But they would still never admit to any mistakes 😅
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Thank you. You put words to something I have experienced with a toxic friend, but couldn't quite explain what was off.
When Amber was 13, she had a zit, that's why she said she's not perfect.
I think people are so absorbed in this trial because there are so many victims of narcissists who are never believed- even accused of being the one doing that which was done to them- that there is huge healing for everyone to see that it is possible to finally get justice. Please don't feel that you are overdoing focus on this trial because you are helping people in ways you've never imagined. Thank you!
I agree. Last year my ex... She is exactly like Heard. And watching this and seeing all the things that they both did and that I wasn't just "being dramatic". Basically this whole trial helps me feel validated that I was being abused by her and the judge I had when I went to get a restraining order was in the wrong for telling me she didn't believe that she could do what I accused her of. Shit .. she even refused to look at the 30 pages I submitted of evidence too.
You've hit this on the head for me. I was in a relationship like this but no one understood. It came to the point where I had to take medicine to be around her. I felt so bad for JD as I could absolutely relate.
Spot on there mate....we all, men and women, will inevitably have to, or already have had to deal with people with narcissistic tendencies, gaslighters and liar's.....it's why Amber is hated so much, she literally reminds everyone of the person they dealt with....man, she reminds me of 2 of my ex's....the mannerisms, the eye rolls, the denials....
I think also it may be because a lot of us can relate to some part of this case. I know friends that are very similar to both people. I have a very good friend like AH. With all the same issues.
@@jgobroho I'm sorry you had to go through that. Even though domestic violence and abuse is more commonly perpetrated against women and there's some really scary and disturbing murder statistics around that(I was one who barely escaped a murder-suicide scenario with my son!), men ARE also victims of domestic violence and abuse. And they're put in a bind because society says "Well how can a man feel powerless when you're obviously physically stronger?" Like implying that you're supposed to physically fight off the woman, in which case you're going to be seen as a "wife-beater", not to mention if you're not an a-hole, you don't have any taste for that violence. Damned if you fight back, damned if you don't...of course that feels powerless! I don't know you or the situation, but if YOU were the one who filed the RO-unless you're a psychopath- that says something to me. You should have been listened to.
I approached this with an open mind. I was willing to be completely disilliousioned about Johnny Depp. I wanted to hear Amber Heard out, regardless of public opinion. Throw out any prejudices about them as celebrities and actors. This is important to me because I know, as a woman, how much the issue of domestic violence is treated dismissively. When I was brutally assaulted by someone who was completely out of control in that moment, and my life was saved by concerned neighbors intervening...after they'd called 911 and the police were on scene, I overheard one of the cops reporting "There's been a fight". And I snapped out of my shock and said "You call this a fight?" As I had blood dripping down my shirt from my split lip(and was later taken to the ER for my injuries) "That was NOT a fight, I was f-ing assaulted!" Dismissive towards women, why not dismissive towards men, too?
When I was hearing Amber Heard out, I tried to relate, but I could not. She reminded me so much of my abuser! The manipulation, the gaslighting, her admitting to being physically violent and trying to minimize it and mocking her partner for being a "baby", as if he should take it "like a man". Really familar, and really gross and toxic. And her stories of violent abuse were just stories-I didn't relate to them at all, they just didn't add up in any realistic way. And it pissed me off that she was co-opting my experience like that!
I am glad that you feel more heard now. I stand with anyone who has survived narcissistic (often violent and cruel) abuse. We need to shine a light on this.
I AM SO GLAD YOU DID THIS Thank you 🙏 I really enjoy your insight!
When Ben was saying how Johnny got his life back, ahh man, the lump hit my throat. His emotion is so powerful it actually affects me, makes me emotional. This is most rare for me, I am not an emotional person at all and can probably count on 1 hand the times I have cried. The fact Ben was still emotional about it some days later, shows me he believes Johnny was not guilty and Ben had access to way more information that we did, than the jury even. That counts for a lot in my book
The love for their client was palpable. Conversely- Amber’s bunch looked like they didn’t expect to win... no shock at the verdict; no comforting. I don’t doubt they all remembered that she threw them under the bus over evidence not brought. I’d warrant they’ve felt the sharp edge of her tongue once or twice too, for she thinks that fire-alarm vocal tone is normal.
My friend is a lawyer and he once said the worst responsibility in his life is when he needs to defend innocent person. I think that Ben Chew moment at 26:49 when he said "his life is on the line" is the perfect representation for that. (I dont ask him whether that is true though. It is just my assumption hahah)
Most lawyers like to make statements that come off as though they're trying to convey "I am a great litigator, you all watching should consider hiring me" when they speak to media. It's really rare that a litigator has that much faith in their client's innocence and feels that much compassion about what they've been through to be emotional about it.
Compare him to Elaine. Elaine seemed more pissed that she was made to look bad and was ridiculed online. Which I would agree with bc most of it had nothing to do with her performance as an attorney, but the criticism of her performance was valid and I doubt that anyone who watched it was actively blaming her for failing in the case because the heard team would change course so much, it was obvious that some client-lead decisions were really throwing a spanner in the works
22:25 this right here is why Elaine's point is moot, Johnny repeatedly talked about his flaws and the jury still found him to be a victim so no, you don't have to be a "perfect victim" to be believed in court!
As I watched this trial I really enjoyed watching Ben and Johnny's connection. He picked a really good legal team. Loved them
Great collaboration between the two of you made this video even more interesting
Also for the script thing that Ben said. I believe he was also saying that Johnny doesn’t stick to scripts. Based on past interviews, He doesn’t stick to the script notes for his roles. So in the same fashion, they advised him on what to talk about on the stand but Johnny did his own thing like he does on sets.
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i also thought that, ashley ventura
Another example of avoiding psychological distancing is when Johnny Depp used the term "wife beater" while on the stand. I think you mentioned that during one of the streams. Good video! 👍
I agree with your general point, but there he was repeating the specific accusation made by the Sun. The headline was literally, JD is a WB.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually he’s practicing psychological distancing, not avoiding it
@@TheMrswestbrom yeah, but the point is that if he was a real WIFE BEATER, he'd do anything to avoid saying it, he'd go around it and try to distance himself as far as possible from these words. When Johnny said it, he experienced once more, that false accusation, and I could truly feel the dagger that was twisted in hisheart. I could truly feel the shock, disappointment and deep saddens he felt, while saying that. Still in some sort of a disbelief, like "how did I even get here?" It didn't feel like acting, to me, and obviously to many others. His testimony was very different from Amber's story about the carpet, which was ridiculous and felt untrue and unreal...
Yes! Janine driver noticed this as well and emphasized the importance of that! Shes also a body language analyst and worked for many years for law enforcement.
Ben and Camille both embodied a higher level of consciousness and awareness. They are very in tune with the power of their words and use it strategically to create a positive environment. Every time that see these 2 lawyers talking there is an energy that the emanate and is very aligned with the facts, evidence and results of doing an outstanding representation.
The marketing research you added !!! Yay thank you makes me enjoy this even more! I’m hooked !!!!
I started to cry "with" Ben. What humble and gentle soul he is, and also the happiness he felt for Johnny.
Me too
As an empath, I just teared up at that little snippet of Ben getting emotional. That was genuine. Also thank you for keeping the door open to these videos. So glad you did this.
Same here!!! Fellow Empath here
Me toooooo. Funny how we could all weed out Amber's fake crying instantly, and then we get a 5 second clip of Ben tearing up and we all cry! Shows how much human beings can truly tell when someone is being truthful with their emotions.
Me toooooo. Funny how we could all weed out Amber's fake crying instantly, and then we get a 5 second clip of Ben tearing up and we all cry! Shows how much human beings can truly tell when someone is being truthful with their emotions.