@@jaysonkang The ghostwriter of the movie is A genius and also created many formats. He also designed the 3D technology for Avatar. Otherwise people would still be using red and blue glasses for 3D. What A twist? er
Ramsey Schaefer Where are you looking? There might be some rare movies better that much or people are trying to get that much. But that’s not the standard
Thanks for an amazing 2 years everyone. Please don't be too hard on this video, I was very new at all this at the time. There's a few incorrect details: I switched the North American and Japanese PS4 release dates, I spelled Columbia the wrong way, I guess I say memory when I mean storage, and the V in DVD stands for versatile, not video. There may be some other little things but the story's accurate and I hope everyone enjoys it. Also here's a link to the new website: companymanideas.com
Company Man thank you for 2 years of informative and educational videos on companies/products. Seriously, without you, I had no idea how large some companies were and/or how they failed. Thank you again!
There was barely a noticeable difference for this video. The only thing I didn't like in this one was the background music which just doesn't fit with the style of of your of your channel. It just felt off in my opinion. I'm excited to see how this channel will evolve and as long as you keep doing what you're doing now I'll be back every Wednesday.
I was 100% looking for this comment and you delivered. I remember making this argument at the time, as did many others. "Let's get a PS3 for the living room! It's half the cost of the only blu-ray player (samsung BD-P1000, $1000 bucks)" an easy sell to the family, by far.
Yup. And when I was growing up we got a PS2 because it had a DVD player. Back then both a DVD player and PS2 cost about $200. No reason to buy a DVD player then when you could get so much more for the same price. Oh did you forget it could play CDs, and PS1 games? It was a no contest decision.
@@a_literal_brick Well parents don't want to use a Console to watch Blu Rays or Dvds do they so that might have something to do with owning a blu ray player as well as the console
I bought my ps3 used and the version that would play ps2 games... so i could have the cheap blu ray player AND something to play ps2/3 games.... it was the best of all things together.
@Kai McCook physical products are just sold for memorabilia nowadays.. there will come a time when only collectors would buy CD's produced in limited edition
Not scientific, but I was sure BluRay would win when my boss Greg said he was convinced HD DVD would win (he had also been convinced the Zune would beat the iPod).
@@RyTrapp0 I've actually still got my 1st gen Zune that I use occasionally. and which stores ALL of my music collection through out my entire life. old and new. Love the hell out of it.
I felt Blu-Ray would win just because the name flowed better. Also the blue keep cases just looked more visually appealing than the harsh red to me. Basically I felt it was a format war fought to solve an issue most people didn't feel they had. Then with the PS3 having the built in BD Player, it was an easy win on the format war.
Kinkajou1015 even today the blue cases catch my eyes over the standard black ones. same with the green and blue colored Xbox and PS4 game cases. i think in general our eyes gravitate towards colors that arent basic like say black
@@mattfahringer148 We are quick to spot things that are different from the norm, and the norm was matte black cases for quite a while. Now if you get a Blu-Ray it's a glossy blue, and I think UHD 4K Blu-Ray is glossy black. If HDDVD had stuck around I would have gotten used to the red case but I'm glad it lost.
@@Kinkajou1015 i still have a few red cases just for nostalgic purposes. like for me game Console color is a big deal to me to. like my Xbox 1 is the special edition Gears of War 4 red
Why? It's their development. Do you think this is odd for other companies that profit from their inventions being used by others, or is this gamer wars silliness?
I mostly turn to CZcams for games and wrestling. You are far and away the most oddball of my subscriptions, and just speaks volumes to how profoundly interesting I find you and your subject matter. Thank you for your time and effort dude.
Part of it may be because it's not ubiquitous in the same way things like regular DVDs are. You actually have to buy a Blu-ray player, while almost every computer with a disk drive can play DVDs.
Because it's been so consistently fun. We've had a landmark title on the PS4 almost every six months with at least one major standout per year, even if a multiplatform game.
Yeah, man! This console generation is almost over. Our sense of time with regards to consoles was skewed by the PS3 and 360's longer-than-average lifespans.
Ah yes, the annoyance of Disney's "Fast" Play... If you didn't mash "main menu" at that screen, you'd be subjected to 20+ minutes of trailers and promos (which were usually super outdated even at the time).
Both Sony and Toshiba lost IMO. Blu-Ray, even the supposed winner, isn't the primary media format for HD movies. The migration to streaming services beat them both. Blu-Ray will never be as big as DVD was.
they learned their lesson for sure, they made some big mistakes with the betamax that JVC didn't with the VHS. Betamax's biggest downfall was that Sony didn't license the technology so only Sony could make the players whereas JVC licensed the technology so there was variety in products. Betamax's video quality was better but it was too costly.
They needed it too what with their failed foray with the Mini-Disc (when MP3 was more popular). Oh and let's not forget their own memory sticks for their devices, lol. Sony has had a lot of blunders over the years.
@@edlomonaco2637 Not true. Sony did license beta to other companies. Both Sanyo and Toshiba made beta VCRs. www.betamaxcollectors.com/toshibabetavcrmodelv-s36.html www.betamaxcollectors.com/sanyobetahi-fimodel7200.html I worked in a store that sold Toshiba Beta VCRs. NEC also made beta VCRs www.betainfoguide.net/NEC70eu.jpg
Not to mention the PS3 was a cheaper alternative to a regular Bluray player as the PS3 was $600 (for the 60GB) and the Bluray player was $1K! I remember an older man saying he bought a PS3 and doesn't even play video games but that it was cheaper so it made more sense. 2006-2008 was a weird time for this kind of stuff, haha.
Never heard of HBO Max, but Amazon Prime should be up there too. Like I know Disney bought almost every other studio that exists, but that also means paying that many companies and having like half the entertainment industry employed by a single company. It's dangerous, do you have any idea how many people needs to stay subscribed to Disney Plus for it to make financial sense? At this point, Disney could collapse like a black hole, and take out the entertainment industry as a whole. I'd estimate they need 200 million subscribed at $15 a month to be profitable. And that is assuming that people still keep buying Blu-ray and DVD like normal.
Backstage Bum Then again, HBO Max has Studio Ghibli films, so it’s still a win for most people (like, seriously, who the hell watches Gone with the Wind unless you’re a film student, enthusiast, or a Confederate sympathizer?) 👍
HD-DVD has too many D's... nobody likes to say it. Blu-ray has a better ring. Also Japanese companies fighting each other for world domination.. thats like an anime
@@Voldemorts.Nipple That's subjective, yes, but in my opinion that's wrong - Sony's always had the superior controllers. Why? Because Sony's always gone with aligned analog sticks, instead of the awkward unaligned stick design Xbox has always had - and now Nintendo's changed to. Y'see, I didn't grow up with Xbox - I grew up with the PlayStation 2 (and Nintendo DS Lite). My first controllers were DualShock 2s, followed by DualShock 3s years later, then the Wii U GamePad and Pro Controller, Wii Classic Controller, and Dualshock 4 (and now 8bitdo SF30 Pro and SN30 Pro+). What do all these controllers have in common? That's right - *aligned analog sticks* . So yeah, I find this style a lot more comfortable and natural. Oh, and I wrote before that I grew up with the DS Lite - followed by the DSi, 3DS, and Wii U later on. Because of this familiarity, I've come to map lettered buttons (instead of Sony's shapes - triangle, circle, square, cross) with Nintendo's layout instead of Microsoft's. Ergo, when I use a controller, I expect (clockwise) XABY - *not* YBAX. If the console wants me to press X, I instinctively press the upper button; if it wants me to press A, it's the rightmost button. Xbox doesn't do this, so it's not as comfortable or natural as the Switch controllers, let alone the superior Wii U or 8bitdo controllers.
DVD almost had a format war. But they all agreed on one standard. The SD card logo was supposed to be for a different disc format, but once Toshiba agreed on DVD, they didn't want to scrap it. Also the PS2 did the same thing with DVD.
It's actually 04:48 for me. I was curious about the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray and accidentally endeded up on HD DVD vs Blu-Ray. Fascinating nonetheless :)
I was a full supporter of HD-DVD and had complete faith that they’d win the battle. Even got one of those HD-DVD Xbox 360 extenders. I might actually have it lying around still.
I am a technology nerd and often an early adopter. My brother and I were roommates in our early adult years and we were one of the first people in our circles who had an HDTV, albeit a 65-inch projection CRT before HDMI existed. We had each contributed to our home theater, so it became painful when we went our separate ways in the early 2000s. I got married in 2005 and as a wedding present, my brother bought me an HDTV (with HDMI now but 720p). Owning a higher quality screen, I craved higher quality content. When Blu-Ray and HD-DVD were announced, I researched both very closely. On the technical grounds, I immediately favored Blu-Ray due to higher storage capacity. I didn’t think the software differences were enough to give an edge to HD-DVD because the players could have firmware upgrades to rectify software differences. When it came to actually spending money, I realized that if I bought a PS3 and Blu-Ray lost the war, I still had a cool gaming system, whereas if I bought an HD-DVD player and that format lost, I’d quickly have a useless piece of equipment. I bought my PS3 when they first came out. Oddly, that first model was the best model made. Subsequent models DELETED hardware and capabilities.
The physical format of the Betamax tape lived on to become BetaCam. As crazy as it sounds we still use it today to send commercials to tv stations around the world.
The only mistake Toshiba made was to not be able to strike a deal with Microsoft to have an HDDVD player installed within the Xbox 360 and instead just made a cheap addon.
Our Xbox 360 drive broke, and it turns out there are certain design issues that will only allow a specific drive to work in the Xbox system. I don't remember all of the details, but when the proverbial turkey timer popped on HD, naturally both the media and the piggy back drives were fire-sale cheap, so we bought a few movies and the piggy back HD drive, which allows regular DVD's to play. Although I assume games might have been an issue (by coincidence I did not have any games I liked at that point) we got a cheap band aid for our broken CD/DVD drive and picked up a couple movies we love archived in HD format.
A waste? Man, I bought my HD-DVD player after they lost the war. I also bought an absolute ton of amazing movies on HD-DVD for like 2-5 dollars a piece. They are filled with great special features and menus because they were made in the middle of a format war. I honestly feel like the HD-DVD's were a bit higher quality than the Blu-Rays I bought around the same time.
Just wanted to write the same comment, but will just support this one. Did exactly the same thing! But besides the cheap players and discs, which I was ordering from all over the world, including Russia and Australia, I bought that thousand dollar HD DVD player XA2 with a Reon-VX HQV chip for upscaling DVDs.
The extra content on HD DVDs was amazing. Well discs from Universal anyway. Blu Ray wasn't even close to HD DVD for value for money. And now unless you buy a special edition Blu Ray you get bigger all extra content. I can understand why Blu Ray sells so little compared to DVD. Sony destroyed their own chance to monopolize.
I think some HD-DVDs were better quality. I use to read the reviews for movies that came out on both formats. I think HD DVD quality was superior on earlier releases because they used a more efficient video codec compared to the Blu-ray MPEG-2 codec that was used on early blu-ray releases. Once Blu-ray moved to the MP4 codec, it got better. There were some early blu-ray movies that looked that same as their unconverted DVD counterpart.
Sony’s ps1 was Sony’s first console with a CD player Sony’s ps2 was their first console with a DVD player Sony’s ps3 was their first console with a blu-ray player Sony’s PS4 was their first console with a 4K UHD player... oh wait, they fucked up on that one...
ps4 was their first console that was stupid AF cause it loads even disc games PS5 is their first console that sony isn't try to sell you a media format with
Nice!I didn't get into Blu ray until Xbox 360 had been out for awhile.I purchased the HD dvd player on 360 first and was impressed how clean and sharp the movies looked!
Quroa says that 4k video at 30 fps takes up 375 MB per minute. Ignoring any more compression or sound files, that averages out to 0.208 MB per frame. So you'd have to swap out a new floppy every 6.92 frames (We'll round down to 6 since that's makes my math easier.), or 5 times every second. For a 3 hour movie like Endgame, that's 54,300 floppies.
@@daniellaufer6204 That's why DVD was known as DVD video discs. It would make alot of sense to call it a digital video disc video. The logo literally says DVD video. It's versatile because it can be used for data or video, hence the meaning of versatility.
I worked at Best Buy in the Home Theater department when the war went on. I remember when they finally announced that Toshiba would no longer sell HD DVD Players, they went from hundreds of dollars down to 50 or 40 dollars or so. Owning one wasnt a complete loss back then since they also upconverted regular dvds (as in stretched them out to make it look HD and then tried to fill in the gaps).
There is a universe out there where we're renting Corporation Guy (Company Man's AU counterpart) HD DVDs from Blockbuster in 2019 after getting an HD DVD player from Kmart.
in that universe... jeff bezos is making videos on youtube, about Company Man.. and selling his online merch on Company Man's website *i support company man any universe we exist
11:42 " The real losers are the people who bought hd dvd" Listening to this video while purchasing a HD DVD player and HD DVD movies on eBay for Nostalgia reasons
But the PS3 was also cheaper than it ought to be, since it was pushing the Blu-ray format. It's the Gillette principle. Gillette sells razors at a loss, because no one needs more than one razor anyway. It's the blades that really make the money. It's the same thing here. You buy one player, but a lot of movies, so it would make sense for Sony to add support for 4K to the PS4 in order to support their own 4K Blu-ray format. I'm really wondering if the 4K format will last, or go the way of 3D Blu-ray.
I bought my HD-DVD player add-on from Best Buy on Valentine's day 2008... They eventually bought them back for $50 gift cards to avoid complains and possible class action lawsuits based on their marketing.
The internet at the time implied that HD DVD was gonna take off, so I bought the $129 player for my X360....which became a paperweight within 6 months. At least I can still watch King Kong and Constantine on HD DVD if I want to,
@@bubba842 The thing is though that Microsoft wouldn't have done that in a million years. Their goal was always to launch first and build up a library as cheaply as possible. The only reason the 360 Core SKU even existed was so they could advertise the console at $300, compared to the PS3's ludicrous $500 starting price. What's also strange is that the HD DVD add on wasn't released until November of 2006... Microsoft needed to launch the HD DVD player with the console to gain any foothold with it, but no one bought it after the fact.
@@jktwice8235 it wasn't in their plan to. As you said they needed the 360 to be cheap to Compete with the PS3. They addbon was released a little late because of the price of the tech at the time. A statement was more of a what if, it was very unlikely to happen due to the price.
I don't like the cases of HD DVD. It's the very reason why I like Blu-ray more. Blu-ray covers look like game CD covers. HD DVD covers look like chocolate boxes with a film's poster on it.
i don't see it that way, i have both. sure they don't release any more hd-dvd movies, but what is out there is pretty good. it's nice as a collectors item.
2019: Still own HD DVD Xbox add-on and still have my HD DVD collection. I consider it a part of electronics history and keeping mine in near mint condition.
This lamb has a Toshiba HD-DVD player purchased at Walmart for $99.99 in October 2007. It’s still in this lamb’s equipment rack, along with a 4K Ultra HD disc player, S-VHS VCR, and Laserdisc player.
Interesting that you brought this up as its somewhat common when large companies actually have separate divisions that act somewhat independent. A good example of this is Samsung making not only their own smart phones but also making the ram chips for most of the smartphones that are direct competitors. Also how LG makes both their own OLED TVs and also make the TV panel for Sony OLEDs due to the division of LG that actually sells the TVs and the one developing the tech are independent of each other.
Every movie you’ve ever watched at home is compressed. It’s just a matter of how much it’s compressed. An uncompressed 2 hour movie would have a size of around 1 TB if not more. Not only is the image itself compressed but the color is compressed (YCbCr 4:2:0). This means that Y (the black and white image) is at full 1080 lines resolution while the color is at 1/4 the resolution or 540 lines. Even the DCPs (digital cinema prints) you watch in the theater are compressed but they’re compressed differently and have a much higher quality than Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray. Blu-rays and home media are video. DCPs are actually individual JPEG2000 pictures. 24 of these JPEG2000 pictures every second instead of a continuous video stream. What is truly better on Blu-ray is the audio. While again it’s still compressed, it’s lossless compression (Dolby TrueHD, DTS HDMA) instead of lossy (DD 5.1, DTS). So when your receiver decodes these tracks the sound is identical to the 24-bit/48 KHz uncompressed LPCM master. Of course how much of a difference you can tell depends on the quality of your speakers and your ears. With internal TV speakers most people will not hear a difference. With a solid AVR and 5.1 setup most people should be able to hear more clarity, punch and dynamic range.
@Nerdism . . . a benefit with having a physical copy of a Blu-ray disc is that there are no assurances the video title will remain available on streaming services. I've heard of several popular movie titles from the 1980s and '90s that have been discontinued on streaming.
So, if U remember guys the HDDVD used bonus online, I never seen any BD with this kind of things, I steel buy HDDVD cause for me, it was the best from them, I really regret this cause now Sony has kill himself is video disc and the streaming wins format (like if this quality is not equal at all!) sorry for my english, I am french. Have a nice day ! All@n
@@DarkepyonX Superior format? It was too big for FHD and it is to short for UHD.. BD started as a very fragile disc with a poor slow interface... hardware decoding with HD DVD and interaction with the viewer were second to none in 2007
What's even more interesting, is that the HD-DVD used to be the technically superior format, at least in the beginning. HD-DVDs used the more efficient and qualitatively better VC-1 codec from the beginning, while the first Blu-Rays still used MPEG2. HD-DVD players had full interactive features from the start, while Blu-Ray players had to go through a lot of profile updates until they catched up to what Toshibas machines where able to do, not to mention that some of the first machine couldn't even been updated to the latest profile. That's for example why it took MATRIX so long to be released on Blu-Ray. Ultimately the Blu-Ray had only one advantage from the start and that was its higher capacity. While a single layer BD could hold up to 25GB (not 20 as wrongly mentioned in the video) and therefore 50GB as double layer, the HD-DVD was only able to hold up 15GB per layer and therefore 30GB as double layer. But before all went downhill for the HD-DVD, a three layer standard was finalized, using 17GB per layer resulting in a 51GB version, beating the maximum BD capacity at that time (if only by 1GB). Of course when 3D startet to become a thing, the BD got a also a three layer version with 100GB, but that was far later. So if the XBOX360 would have launched with a built in HD-DVD player (not only wasn't the add on an elegant solution, it also was a movie player only. Games on HD-DVD where never supported) it could have maybe changed something. But in retrospect I'm glad that this format war didn't last any longer. Wars like this only hurt sales and therefore thank god that we didn't get another one of these with the UHD-BD.
I think that may have also increased its base price (not to ps3 lvl but still a bit) which would've made it a less compelling option for new consumers or ps fans...
@@akashP998 at the same time tho even with a higher base price if its still cheaper than the PS3 it may have been a more desirable option for many. Lets also remember the PS3 didn't have any interesting games at launch and third party titles were inferior compared to 360. Plus the 360 wasn't so reliant on a large hard drive while the PS3 required an install on most games
Sony was still a monster in the movie and sound business at that time, so it wouldn't of had that major of an effect on the format change. The additional storage of a standard, single layer Blu-ray still beat out the HD-DVD, and would continue to do so for a few years.
Given the extremely high failure rate on the first model XB360 it would most likely have made the situation even worse for the HDDVD side. Of course, with such a drive that unit would of course also have to be much more expensive, at lest closer to PS3 price or loss. The higher cost of the drive itself, and also no super speed spun-up ordinary DVD because of that, means no base model without HDD anymore, adding even more cost. So maybe the system would have been more reliable as a more premium product, but that is really stretching the ifs and whataboutisms.
@@Stoppskylten in retrospect I actually feel like if they did include the drive the console mightve launched later (close to the PS3 and Wii in November 2006). Granted this is again going into major what ifs. While bad for the HD DVD format I feel MS made the right choice sticking to duel layer DVDs. The PS3 really overshot the need to Blu Rays until way into the gen and it really hurt the console and Sony
Except its now taking orders from disney, it is not its own entity anymore. A 20th century fox production is now a disney production by nature of hierarchy and ownership. To me, anyway, it can't be a major studio if its owned by another major studio.
I didn't think anybody even bought hd DVD when I was in high school. Nobody really cared. To us and maybe most of America it was just accepted Blu Ray was the only option left.
"The Oxford English Dictionary comments that, "In 1995 rival manufacturers of the product initially named digital video disc agreed that, in order to emphasize the flexibility of the format for multimedia applications, the preferred abbreviation DVD would be understood to denote digital versatile disc." The OED also states that in 1995, "The companies said the official name of the format will simply be DVD. Toshiba had been using the name ‘digital video disc’, but that was switched to ‘digital versatile disc’ after computer companies complained that it left out their applications."
And Blu Rays laser is not blue it’s ultra violet more like a purplish colour. Plus’s DVDs hold 8gb of data and Blu Ray holds 50 gb yes there are single layers but all store bought Blu Rays and DVDs are all mostly double layers. Plus some the other reasons Blu Ray won. Better picture and sound quality Protective layer that resists scratches Blu Ray players could still play DVDs as well There was one in every PS3
@@ryans413 It is not Ultraviolet, because then it would be invisible to our eyes (so no colour at all, rather than purple-ish). The reason it is named "Blu-Ray" is that the higher frequency (lower wavelength) part of the spectrum is generally called "the blue end of the spectrum".
I heard about HD-DVD from a nerd classmate at the highschool, he said that there was a format war between it and another format but he didn't remember the name (Blu-ray) soon Blu-ray started to be a thing and I thought that HD-DVD didn't get to be commercialized. I have never seen an HD-DVD personally and until I saw some of them in the Internet by chance some years ago, I thought they were never released at all.
@@TheBrainSquared I think you're remembering it wrong. The difference between VHS and Beta was so small you'd need equipment to measure the difference. Unless your talking real early on and the Beta I speed but that was gone by 1979 and no Beta machine used that speed afterwards to record.
@D B 4 heads had nothing to do with picture quality during playback. The were for clear fast forward viewing, pause and slow-mo. Yes there was a quality war going on but VHS quickly matched any Beta improvements and for less money. VHS was simply the superior format in every way that mattered to consumers of the time period. Beta 1 may have looked slightly better but it was useless in the real world.(to short of a recording time)
I think part of why Blu-Ray also wasn't a bigger hit is because it felt like a DVD 2.0. I, personally, didn't even purchase a Blu-Ray player until 8 years ago, when I discovered that Blu-Ray discs were scratch-resistant. I didn't care about technical specs, but that was an instant win in my eyes.
Also, when it came out, HD content was being sold to everyone who was still watching DVD on an old, probably massive 480p max CRT. True 1080p displays didn't come down in price enough until around 2008-2009 or so for most everyone to upgrade and actually SEE the difference I believe.
@@ballsrgrossnugly Plus many people were probably hesitant to rebuy their entire DVD collection on Blu-Ray, so they were sticking to DVD. Why buy an expensive player for a handful of discs when you already have a system that works fine? I also know quite a few people who have a problem watching HD movies. They are so used to low quality home video that the sharpness of HD puts them off. I only switched over when Blu-Ray releases of my favorite movies started to add more bonus content than the regular DVD release... but I only purchase films I love and know I will watch again. For everything else, streaming...
@@jeanleconquerant4594 Yeah. Why would I spend several hundred dollars more on a prettier-looking video player? I need a more-convincing reason than that.
Blu-rays are pretty cheap and affordable these days; unlike in 2006 when they came out. We're talking that there's tons of movies on such format for 5 bucks in sites like eBay, which is great: given the fact that you actually own something, when you buy a disc. The one thing I hate the most about streaming platforms is that you're at the expense of an internet connection and having to pay only to have access, not to own anything. Besides, movies are sometimes removed, while nobody can erase your discs.
I bought an LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD/DVD player a couple of years ago to add to my electronics systems. I still look for cheap HD-DVDs to add to my collection.
blu ray, dvd, cd, spotify, netflix, youtube & even the ps store to get digital downloads of movies & games. all in one was great for me, tho i watched movies on it more then played games lol
I don't know why they don't just discontinue stand alone DVD releases. The blu-rays pretty much all come as DVD & blu-ray combo packs. This would pull people into the HD era
@Bob so I'm assuming that your message wasn't for me. I'm actually NOT into the whole streaming thing as I too would rather have the movie or Album in my collection and not have to worry about Raising my data plan to watch it listen to them
It stood for Digital Video Disc. They later changed the acronym from Video to Versatile, which was supposed to help "sell" the idea that it was, well, "versatile". Toshiba kept using the acronym "Digital Video Disc" longer than most of the companies in the consortium that developed the format. Almost nobody who actually says the acronym out loud says "versatile" because that is how sentient spiders in human suits talk, not actual humans. The change is a retrofit that sounds terrible and is clearly the result of a board room meeting without enough oxygen in the room. trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=digital%20video%20disc,digital%20versatile%20disc
It originally stood for "digital video disk", but when DVDs started to be used for data storage (around the time of consumer DVD-R being introduced), they revised the term to "digital versatile disk", to symbolize both movie & data storage capabilities.
Actually, You are inaccurate so you did not properly interject with "Actually." It was called first adopted the other then completely abandoned the "Versatile" label option. Also because they knew people like you would ruin DVD format by themselves. Don't be "this guy" doing this you are not wanted at any party or gathering being 'this guy'...
@@NintendoPsycho Thanks for your comment, I've been trying to correct people for years, with not much success. I ask them, "How would you say this number...1999?" Universally their answers are all the same...it starts with NINETEEN. Then I add that saying One Thousand Nine Hundred and Ninety Nine just sounds stupid and shouldn't the next century start with a TWENTY, but usually by then they've lost interest in what I'm talking about and just tell me to shut up.
Honestly love and miss these “vs” videos, it’s great to see this gem be brought to the light and some of my favorite videos of yours have been the old vs vids, especially NBA vs ABA, love all your vids tho !
The PS3 wasn't so expensive because of the Blu--ray player. Though it did have its impact, it was mostly due to having a full on PS2 inside every PS3 for backwards compatibility on the earliest units that made the PS3 so expensive. The price dropped significantly when they decided to remove the PS2 hardware from PS3s and rather use software emulation for backwards compatibility
Majority was the blu-ray and the two chips. The full PS2 chip was nothing in comparison to the rest of the system. They only removed it to drop the price to remain competitive with the 360. You cant remove the blu-ray or the cell/rsx to save money because then it wouldnt be a ps3. The ps2 hardware probably cost $20 for the silicon if that, they also removed the card reader and 2 usb ports. It was overall part of the cost cutting measure, but the blu-ray drive was still a far larger chunk of the cost to manufacture. I think the cell processor alone was over $200 and the original blu-ray drive was estimated to be $300+. They still lost money on every $400 non-BC ps3 because of the blu-ray and the cell, it just hurt sony less and made it more price competitive at the cost of all the features many people didn't use. The PS2 SoC wasn't $200 worth of hardware, they were selling ps2 slims for less than that when the ps3 launched, and they were making a profit on those.
I'm very surprised you didn't mention anything about the porn industry choosing to go with blu-ray. This was also a major reason why blu-ray won the format war.
LOL! I was gonna comment this too. Well not exactly the same thing. I remember discussing this with co-workers and somebody saying it would lose because of porn.
Big HD DVD fan here. I still collect these. Thrift stores are a great source for finding these for under $2. Own two HD DVD Xbox 360 add-ons and a Toshiba HD DVD Player. It's a fun side hobby.
@@nthgth The Universal releases on HD DVD and Blu-ray look exactly the same. Same menus and all, some of the other studio releases are similar, some differ. Overall, it's pretty much the same thing.
Physical discs feel more valuable and make me feel nostalgic from going on vacation with the portable video players or the family getting together to choose a disk to watch.
The current year is two-thousand and nine-teen. Ten years ago the year was two-thousand and nine. I think it sounds better using two-thousand for the 2000s and nine-teen for the 1900s.
Subscriber Yeah I don’t think OP is confused on that. Most people I knew back then and now refer to 2008 as “two thousand (and) eight” not “twenty oh eight” Saying “twenty nineteen” is more common because it sounds less strange.
Yeah, what they said. Nobody in 2008 said twenty-oh-eight. People didn't start using the "twenty so-and-so" convention until the 2010's, and I've never heard it used retroactively to refer to the 00's. Just sounds super awkward.
But, e.g., as far as I know everybody describes the year the Great San Francisco Quake happened as "nineteen oh six". Why should "twenty oh six" be any different?
@@leny4838 Yep, www.researchgate.net/publication/233283035_Triple-wavelength_optical_pickup_head_designs_for_compact_disk_digital_versatile_disk_and_high-density_digital_versatile_disk_devices since 2005
Fun fact, the first DVD was Twister, the last HD-DVD was Twister. How poetic.
BUT WHY
Here I was confused thinking you were talking about a movie based on the game twister..
@@jaysonkang The ghostwriter of the movie is A genius and also created many formats.
He also designed the 3D technology for Avatar. Otherwise people would still be using red and blue glasses for 3D.
What A twist? er
Japan had 4 releases before Twister.
Poetic indeed.
Hd dvd in 2007: $35
Blu-ray In 2007: $59
Blu-ray In 2019: $19
Hd dvd in 2019 on eBay: $125
-_-
Buzzy boy yea 😂😂
Every HD DVD I see on eBay is $5
Ace really?? Last I checked had dvd and laserdiscs were like insanely expensive
Ramsey Schaefer Where are you looking? There might be some rare movies better that much or people are trying to get that much. But that’s not the standard
Jonny Lake I just look up he dvd same with laserdisc they are up in value more
Thanks for an amazing 2 years everyone. Please don't be too hard on this video, I was very new at all this at the time. There's a few incorrect details: I switched the North American and Japanese PS4 release dates, I spelled Columbia the wrong way, I guess I say memory when I mean storage, and the V in DVD stands for versatile, not video. There may be some other little things but the story's accurate and I hope everyone enjoys it. Also here's a link to the new website: companymanideas.com
It was a great video! Everyone has to start somewhere and seeing as you've been here for two years I think you've done pretty well!
Company Man thank you for 2 years of informative and educational videos on companies/products. Seriously, without you, I had no idea how large some companies were and/or how they failed. Thank you again!
You sould do a n64 vs ps1 video
Hello, I like companymanideas
There was barely a noticeable difference for this video. The only thing I didn't like in this one was the background music which just doesn't fit with the style of of your of your channel. It just felt off in my opinion. I'm excited to see how this channel will evolve and as long as you keep doing what you're doing now I'll be back every Wednesday.
You forgot to mention that the ps3 was still far cheaper than any Blu-ray player on the market at the time.
I was 100% looking for this comment and you delivered. I remember making this argument at the time, as did many others. "Let's get a PS3 for the living room! It's half the cost of the only blu-ray player (samsung BD-P1000, $1000 bucks)" an easy sell to the family, by far.
@@ne0nex I remember when I first got my PS3 it would play blu rays in black and white cuz my TV at the time didn't support HD
Why would anyone buy a Blue Ray player instead?
Yup. And when I was growing up we got a PS2 because it had a DVD player. Back then both a DVD player and PS2 cost about $200. No reason to buy a DVD player then when you could get so much more for the same price. Oh did you forget it could play CDs, and PS1 games? It was a no contest decision.
@@a_literal_brick Well parents don't want to use a Console to watch Blu Rays or Dvds do they so that might have something to do with owning a blu ray player as well as the console
Anyone else remember how much Disney loved advertising for Blu Ray on their DVD's released from like 2006-2011?
All blu rays released pushed the medium
Yep, young me really wanted to switch to it after seeing Disney push it so much
It was an understandable "no" from mum though
Kind of funny that Disney now is killing physical media, as they are turning towards Disney+
I remember the advertising for DVD on VHS
All I remember is
“This Disney DVD is enhanced with Disney’s Fast Play”
That's why I own a PS3 it was the cheapest Blu Ray player in 2009
I bought my ps3 used and the version that would play ps2 games... so i could have the cheap blu ray player AND something to play ps2/3 games.... it was the best of all things together.
The PS3 was the absolute best Blu-Ray player for ages, It took the normal units a long time to surpass the PS3.
Same. I had an Xbox 360 too, but didn't feel like buying the add-on for the Xbox.
Matthew L'Herault pathetic
Same reason why i owned a PS2 in early 2000s.
It was the cheapest DVD player.
It went from VHS->DVD->Blu-Ray->Netflix->Every studio has their own streaming service now.
CZcams
VHS->DVD->Blu-Ray-> computer
@Kai McCook physical products are just sold for memorabilia nowadays.. there will come a time when only collectors would buy CD's produced in limited edition
Quality went up..and up..and then down. But at least accessibility has increased?
@Kai McCook Seriously tho flacc beats mp3 any day
I remember calling HD DVD "Red Ray" when I was younger
You should have called it ultra violet ray since thats what colour the laser is. Same as the Blu Ray laser is actually ultra violet.
@@bubba842 if it's visible, it's not UV. 405 nm is visible, so it's not UV.
(Blu Ray is still a misnomer though)
@@nthgth sorry it's violet light not ultra violet. Yes anything below 400nm is not visible. 405 is visible.
Thats like the sith version of blue ray
I thought I was the only one 😂
Not scientific, but I was sure BluRay would win when my boss Greg said he was convinced HD DVD would win (he had also been convinced the Zune would beat the iPod).
Omg! I remember the Zune! 😂
The Zune was such a superior device, I loved mine - but, you can't beat marketing hype with just a good product
@@RyTrapp0 I've actually still got my 1st gen Zune that I use occasionally. and which stores ALL of my music collection through out my entire life. old and new. Love the hell out of it.
lol
Dude. Take Greg to Vegas with you and bet against EVERYTHING he bets on.
Blu-Ray: Did you do it?
PS3: Yes
Blu-Ray: What did it cost?
PS3: Millions in sales
If anything Blu-Ray actually propped up PS3 sales.
lmaoo good onee
@@riteousrighthand6144 it hurt at first ... then it helped prop it up ... ps3 actually came out on top over the 360 by the end of their lifecycles
@@limitslines9896 perhaps, it was still the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market at launch.
Yet it is the 7th best selling console of all time and not a single Xbox system is ahead of it in sales.
I felt Blu-Ray would win just because the name flowed better. Also the blue keep cases just looked more visually appealing than the harsh red to me.
Basically I felt it was a format war fought to solve an issue most people didn't feel they had. Then with the PS3 having the built in BD Player, it was an easy win on the format war.
Yeah. I bet the name “HD-DVD” caused A LOT of confusion for consumers.
@@MysteryMii Yeah, it's the whole Wii U thing all over again.
"Is it a new Wii or a new console?"
Kinkajou1015
even today the blue cases catch my eyes over the standard black ones. same with the green and blue colored Xbox and PS4 game cases. i think in general our eyes gravitate towards colors that arent basic like say black
@@mattfahringer148 We are quick to spot things that are different from the norm, and the norm was matte black cases for quite a while. Now if you get a Blu-Ray it's a glossy blue, and I think UHD 4K Blu-Ray is glossy black.
If HDDVD had stuck around I would have gotten used to the red case but I'm glad it lost.
@@Kinkajou1015 i still have a few red cases just for nostalgic purposes. like for me game Console color is a big deal to me to. like my Xbox 1 is the special edition Gears of War 4 red
It still blows my mind that Sony gets a cut of every blu Ray made regardless of studio.. They really struck gold there
Just good and smart business.
Not to mention videogames are on blu rays
Why? It's their development. Do you think this is odd for other companies that profit from their inventions being used by others, or is this gamer wars silliness?
I mostly turn to CZcams for games and wrestling. You are far and away the most oddball of my subscriptions, and just speaks volumes to how profoundly interesting I find you and your subject matter. Thank you for your time and effort dude.
What a waste of a CZcams account.
Same here bruh
I love his voice when narrating
Same
zzzarkka lol exactly what I was thinking
Why does Blu-ray still feel so new even though it came out when I was 7 and I used VHS tapes up until I was 13?
Part of it may be because it's not ubiquitous in the same way things like regular DVDs are. You actually have to buy a Blu-ray player, while almost every computer with a disk drive can play DVDs.
Argeniside 101 Because it comes in a blue box and the blue box looks smaller and more compact than the DVD boxes that are still being made to this day
Right!
fun fact, in 2014 bluray sold 17million, that same year dvd sold 125 million. vhs were great tho, i still have my scarface 2vhs collection.
I still use VHS tapes
Holy shit, didn't realize it's been 6 years since the ps4 came out.
JOSEPH WODARCZYK time flies
That's spooky
Wtf.
Because it's been so consistently fun. We've had a landmark title on the PS4 almost every six months with at least one major standout per year, even if a multiplatform game.
Yeah, man! This console generation is almost over. Our sense of time with regards to consoles was skewed by the PS3 and 360's longer-than-average lifespans.
"This HD DVD is enhanced with Disney's Fast Play. Your movie comes with a selection of bonus features..."
"Fast Play will begin in a moment."
Who else remembers the blu ray disney commercial
Goddamn, nostalgia
This brings back memories, could legit see tinker bell flying in as the DVD logo appears
Ah yes, the annoyance of Disney's "Fast" Play... If you didn't mash "main menu" at that screen, you'd be subjected to 20+ minutes of trailers and promos (which were usually super outdated even at the time).
Biggest thing that hurt HD-DVD was Microsoft not having HD-DVD built in from the start.
Microsoft always finds a way to fuck up its products :(
Both Sony and Toshiba lost IMO. Blu-Ray, even the supposed winner, isn't the primary media format for HD movies. The migration to streaming services beat them both. Blu-Ray will never be as big as DVD was.
4k Is the new now..
@@evilbred974 It was the primary format for HD movies for a while, but not as long as Sony expected. HD-DVD nearly killed Toshiba, though.
@@evilbred974 Heck, Blu-Ray didn't even beat DVD. DVD's are still being sold.
I love how deceivingly mundane these subjects sound, but they turn out to be fascinating
That actually happens with everything if think about it 🤔
Or vice versa, something might look decisively fascinating, but turns out to be mundane. A.K.A clickbait
I think Sony went hard on Blu-ray simply as a revenge for Betamax.
I had a few ideas but man I think you are spot on. The Japanese love revenge and will wait as long as it takes to get it.
@@jukeofearl
Who doesn't?
they learned their lesson for sure, they made some big mistakes with the betamax that JVC didn't with the VHS. Betamax's biggest downfall was that Sony didn't license the technology so only Sony could make the players whereas JVC licensed the technology so there was variety in products. Betamax's video quality was better but it was too costly.
They needed it too what with their failed foray with the Mini-Disc (when MP3 was more popular). Oh and let's not forget their own memory sticks for their devices, lol. Sony has had a lot of blunders over the years.
@@edlomonaco2637 Not true. Sony did license beta to other companies. Both Sanyo and Toshiba made beta VCRs.
www.betamaxcollectors.com/toshibabetavcrmodelv-s36.html
www.betamaxcollectors.com/sanyobetahi-fimodel7200.html
I worked in a store that sold Toshiba Beta VCRs.
NEC also made beta VCRs
www.betainfoguide.net/NEC70eu.jpg
Not to mention the PS3 was a cheaper alternative to a regular Bluray player as the PS3 was $600 (for the 60GB) and the Bluray player was $1K! I remember an older man saying he bought a PS3 and doesn't even play video games but that it was cheaper so it made more sense. 2006-2008 was a weird time for this kind of stuff, haha.
The DVD logo will forever give me good memories from back when i used to watch movies with my family
Same. Also, I would comb through every bonus feature on every disc I owned. Whole afternoons were dedicated to one movie, and I don't regret it.
Satan has a family?
Damn.. Too bad you we're the first to fall out of all of them
What happened to your family?
Hassan Khan Satan only killed 10 people and god killed way more
"Intense competition like this could actually be harmful"
[Looks nervously at Netflix/Disney+/HBO Max]
Never heard of HBO Max, but Amazon Prime should be up there too. Like I know Disney bought almost every other studio that exists, but that also means paying that many companies and having like half the entertainment industry employed by a single company. It's dangerous, do you have any idea how many people needs to stay subscribed to Disney Plus for it to make financial sense? At this point, Disney could collapse like a black hole, and take out the entertainment industry as a whole. I'd estimate they need 200 million subscribed at $15 a month to be profitable. And that is assuming that people still keep buying Blu-ray and DVD like normal.
I saw that Hulu is owned by Disney for 67% & Comcast for 33%.
Backstage Bum
Then again, HBO Max has Studio Ghibli films, so it’s still a win for most people (like, seriously, who the hell watches Gone with the Wind unless you’re a film student, enthusiast, or a Confederate sympathizer?)
👍
@Backstage Bum well, they got Justice League Snyder Cut
For Streaming Services You Have To Power On The TV And Wait for Thr Loading But Physical Discs Just Turn On The Player And Watch No Clicking
HD-DVD has too many D's... nobody likes to say it. Blu-ray has a better ring.
Also Japanese companies fighting each other for world domination.. thats like an anime
most people would cut the name down to just HD
Could've been HDVD
King Dedede:
**Stares Motherfuckerly**
But Blu... not blue... arghhhh my ocd...
You obviously dont like the D. Me, i can never get too many D's. Ohh, wait, i mean uhhhhh not like that
what i find interesting is that the ps3 actually ended up selling more units than the 360 after the consoles were obsolete
Rainy Nooo not true czcams.com/video/uhjIl86yXsk/video.html
@@xboxbetterthanplaystation9395 Uhh, yeah it is true.
Probably because the PS3 didn't suffer as many faults as the godawful Xbox 360 - and had a better controller and GUI design too.
@@PokeMaster22222 xbox has always bad the better controllers
@@Voldemorts.Nipple That's subjective, yes, but in my opinion that's wrong - Sony's always had the superior controllers.
Why? Because Sony's always gone with aligned analog sticks, instead of the awkward unaligned stick design Xbox has always had - and now Nintendo's changed to.
Y'see, I didn't grow up with Xbox - I grew up with the PlayStation 2 (and Nintendo DS Lite). My first controllers were DualShock 2s, followed by DualShock 3s years later, then the Wii U GamePad and Pro Controller, Wii Classic Controller, and Dualshock 4 (and now 8bitdo SF30 Pro and SN30 Pro+). What do all these controllers have in common? That's right - *aligned analog sticks* . So yeah, I find this style a lot more comfortable and natural.
Oh, and I wrote before that I grew up with the DS Lite - followed by the DSi, 3DS, and Wii U later on. Because of this familiarity, I've come to map lettered buttons (instead of Sony's shapes - triangle, circle, square, cross) with Nintendo's layout instead of Microsoft's. Ergo, when I use a controller, I expect (clockwise) XABY - *not* YBAX.
If the console wants me to press X, I instinctively press the upper button; if it wants me to press A, it's the rightmost button.
Xbox doesn't do this, so it's not as comfortable or natural as the Switch controllers, let alone the superior Wii U or 8bitdo controllers.
First time I've ever heard some say "20oh7" instead of 2007
i had to say it to myself to figure out what the hell he was saying LMAO
I used to hear that all the time
@@sneezu it means instead of saying 20-oh-7, the right pronunciation was 2007 (two thousand seven)
Not me...
@@princepeachfuzz 2000?
DVD almost had a format war. But they all agreed on one standard. The SD card logo was supposed to be for a different disc format, but once Toshiba agreed on DVD, they didn't want to scrap it.
Also the PS2 did the same thing with DVD.
billy never forgets
Also PSX PS1 was cheapest CD player
Technology Connection? ;)
you can't call the PS1 the PSX since the PSX is the name of a PS2 console in Japan that also combined a set-top box for watching TV.
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials PSX DVR is flop, PSX is community name first gen PS. When PS started look on ROMs site.
Everyone at four in the morning: sleeping
Me: HD DVD VS Blu Ray
It's actually 04:48 for me. I was curious about the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray and accidentally endeded up on HD DVD vs Blu-Ray. Fascinating nonetheless :)
It's literally exactly 05:00 for me right now
+1
For me 03:33
02:48 with me😬
I was a full supporter of HD-DVD and had complete faith that they’d win the battle. Even got one of those HD-DVD Xbox 360 extenders. I might actually have it lying around still.
Yeah, it's over there next to your Zune.
@@lastguyminn2324 No, no, you're going too far. That's the Windows Phone, move to the right, right...
@@lastguyminn2324 LMAOOOO
Rip, sell it if you find. Probably can make some good money off it
I still have the xbox HD player and some movies. I wish Microsoft had at least offered drivers so you could play them through Windows.
Once you find all six, you've won
Sounds..... familiar
The Chaos Emeralds from sonic 1?
*Thanos snaps his fingers*
@@davidcopeland5450 I think he's missing one...
I think everybody knows the reference.
Kind of loses its luster when that happens.
Not to me, I'm always trying to find all 7 Dragonballs
Speaking of DVDS I can't find my 'Gone in 60 seconds' dvd.
It was here a minute ago
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
oh god...
Half ass joke
And the best dad joke award goes to.....😂
God damnit take my like
11:09 "We all may be watching HD DVDs right now"
Alternate universe me: *Closes Netflix package with the New Episode of Company Man on HD Dvd*
I am a technology nerd and often an early adopter. My brother and I were roommates in our early adult years and we were one of the first people in our circles who had an HDTV, albeit a 65-inch projection CRT before HDMI existed. We had each contributed to our home theater, so it became painful when we went our separate ways in the early 2000s. I got married in 2005 and as a wedding present, my brother bought me an HDTV (with HDMI now but 720p). Owning a higher quality screen, I craved higher quality content. When Blu-Ray and HD-DVD were announced, I researched both very closely. On the technical grounds, I immediately favored Blu-Ray due to higher storage capacity. I didn’t think the software differences were enough to give an edge to HD-DVD because the players could have firmware upgrades to rectify software differences. When it came to actually spending money, I realized that if I bought a PS3 and Blu-Ray lost the war, I still had a cool gaming system, whereas if I bought an HD-DVD player and that format lost, I’d quickly have a useless piece of equipment. I bought my PS3 when they first came out. Oddly, that first model was the best model made. Subsequent models DELETED hardware and capabilities.
projector tv's arent CRT's But HD crt's with and without HDMI do exist
I'm still holding out for Betamax to have a renaissance.
ahh
betamax, the hipsters of the video cassette world
@Twenty Vue but Betamax is so fetch 💅
Betamax lived on in recording studios, as did the Minidisc. I miss the Minidisc, such a great format IMO.
Luke Rinderknecht 😂
The physical format of the Betamax tape lived on to become BetaCam. As crazy as it sounds we still use it today to send commercials to tv stations around the world.
My first Blu-Ray player was the PS3 Slim back in 2009, ten years later and it still works perfectly.
Do you play games on it
I have the slim as well with hundreds of movies installed on it. Hope ps5 has those multimedia functions because ps4 surely does not.
My Blu-ray player is a PS3 Slim! Sure it's my brother's but sure.
The ps3 slim came out in 2011
PS3 Slim was released in 2009, Super slim in 2012. Get your facts straight.
The only mistake Toshiba made was to not be able to strike a deal with Microsoft to have an HDDVD player installed within the Xbox 360 and instead just made a cheap addon.
Agreed 100%.
Microsoft was too cheap.For instance, they could have solved the red ring system by using decent epoxy but didnt
yeah true noone likes addons
Our Xbox 360 drive broke, and it turns out there are certain design issues that will only allow a specific drive to work in the Xbox system. I don't remember all of the details, but when the proverbial turkey timer popped on HD, naturally both the media and the piggy back drives were fire-sale cheap, so we bought a few movies and the piggy back HD drive, which allows regular DVD's to play. Although I assume games might have been an issue (by coincidence I did not have any games I liked at that point) we got a cheap band aid for our broken CD/DVD drive and picked up a couple movies we love archived in HD format.
Cheap? Yeah not at the time
A waste? Man, I bought my HD-DVD player after they lost the war. I also bought an absolute ton of amazing movies on HD-DVD for like 2-5 dollars a piece. They are filled with great special features and menus because they were made in the middle of a format war. I honestly feel like the HD-DVD's were a bit higher quality than the Blu-Rays I bought around the same time.
I agree
There are still so many good cheap movies on hd-dvd
Just wanted to write the same comment, but will just support this one. Did exactly the same thing! But besides the cheap players and discs, which I was ordering from all over the world, including Russia and Australia, I bought that thousand dollar HD DVD player XA2 with a Reon-VX HQV chip for upscaling DVDs.
The extra content on HD DVDs was amazing. Well discs from Universal anyway. Blu Ray wasn't even close to HD DVD for value for money. And now unless you buy a special edition Blu Ray you get bigger all extra content. I can understand why Blu Ray sells so little compared to DVD. Sony destroyed their own chance to monopolize.
I think some HD-DVDs were better quality. I use to read the reviews for movies that came out on both formats. I think HD DVD quality was superior on earlier releases because they used a more efficient video codec compared to the Blu-ray MPEG-2 codec that was used on early blu-ray releases. Once Blu-ray moved to the MP4 codec, it got better. There were some early blu-ray movies that looked that same as their unconverted DVD counterpart.
Many people will tell you-
Their first CD player was the PS1
Their first DVD player was the PS2
Their first blu-ray player was the PS3
If your first cd player was a ps1 you were a really late adopter. CDs were a thing in the 80s
Sony’s ps1 was Sony’s first console with a CD player
Sony’s ps2 was their first console with a DVD player
Sony’s ps3 was their first console with a blu-ray player
Sony’s PS4 was their first console with a 4K UHD player... oh wait, they fucked up on that one...
No many people will not tell you that lol. Everyone had a cd player before ps1 a dvd player way before ps2 and a bluray player before a ps3
They didn't put in a 4K player in the ps4 or ps4 pro. Kinda dissapointing
ps4 was their first console that was stupid AF cause it loads even disc games
PS5 is their first console that sony isn't try to sell you a media format with
I remember when Blockbuster was liquidating their HD-DVD inventory when they made the full switch. $1 each.
Worth less now 😅
Nice!I didn't get into Blu ray until Xbox 360 had been out for awhile.I purchased the HD dvd player on 360 first and was impressed how clean and sharp the movies looked!
I only watch 4k movies via floppy disks.
Could you even fit a single frame on a floppy? heh
Quroa says that 4k video at 30 fps takes up 375 MB per minute. Ignoring any more compression or sound files, that averages out to 0.208 MB per frame. So you'd have to swap out a new floppy every 6.92 frames (We'll round down to 6 since that's makes my math easier.), or 5 times every second. For a 3 hour movie like Endgame, that's 54,300 floppies.
@@mrjotz r/wooosh
@@josephwodarczyk977 r/theydidthemath
Call me a sellout, but I find the Iomega Zip 100MB discs provide a warmer and deeper color tone to my 4k files.
The “V” in HD-DVD doesn’t stand for video. A DVD is a Digital Versatile Disc.
Someone had to say it.
Doesn't it depend on video vs data?
That's the term for the entire format, but for pre-recorded movies it does in fact stand for video.
@@daniellaufer6204 No a DVD is a digital versatile disc
@@daniellaufer6204 That's why DVD was known as DVD video discs. It would make alot of sense to call it a digital video disc video. The logo literally says DVD video.
It's versatile because it can be used for data or video, hence the meaning of versatility.
I worked at Best Buy in the Home Theater department when the war went on. I remember when they finally announced that Toshiba would no longer sell HD DVD Players, they went from hundreds of dollars down to 50 or 40 dollars or so. Owning one wasnt a complete loss back then since they also upconverted regular dvds (as in stretched them out to make it look HD and then tried to fill in the gaps).
There is a universe out there where we're renting Corporation Guy (Company Man's AU counterpart) HD DVDs from Blockbuster in 2019 after getting an HD DVD player from Kmart.
in that universe... jeff bezos is making videos on youtube, about Company Man.. and selling his online merch on Company Man's website
*i support company man any universe we exist
Lol
@LedosKell.... BEST COMMENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And in that universe, Kids WB, Fox Kids, and Saturday Morning Cartoons/Good Animated blocks still exist, and Saban bought out Funimation in 2002.
@@BrianAwesome wished
blu ray is thanos and hd dvd is the avengers trying to stop bluray from getting all six companies
BUSCEMIBOI leave your nerd shit at home.
Salvador Prado It’s a relevant joke.
@@salvadorprado3175 leave your boring ass home
@@salvadorprado3175 leave your lack of humor at the door
100th like
11:42 " The real losers are the people who bought hd dvd"
Listening to this video while purchasing a HD DVD player and HD DVD movies on eBay for Nostalgia reasons
That’s ridiculous. (And relatable as hell. ) 😅👍🏼
To this day I still don't understand why the Sony Owned PS4 Pro does not have 4K BluRay playback.
That's a terrible business decision. The PS4 Pro wouldn't sell as well if it was twice as expensive just for the 4K BluRay player
@@PDANYreal Twice as expensive? The Xbox One S has a 4k BluRay player and sells for less than $250
Kendall Brice the Xbox one s and X has the cheapest and worst 4K Drive possible to keep the price down. I own the X but the 4K Drive is pathetic.
It is to get you to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on a 4k player....
But the PS3 was also cheaper than it ought to be, since it was pushing the Blu-ray format. It's the Gillette principle. Gillette sells razors at a loss, because no one needs more than one razor anyway. It's the blades that really make the money. It's the same thing here. You buy one player, but a lot of movies, so it would make sense for Sony to add support for 4K to the PS4 in order to support their own 4K Blu-ray format.
I'm really wondering if the 4K format will last, or go the way of 3D Blu-ray.
I bought my HD-DVD player add-on from Best Buy on Valentine's day 2008... They eventually bought them back for $50 gift cards to avoid complains and possible class action lawsuits based on their marketing.
Yeah. I remember that. Target too jumped on the band wagon giving customers a refund for their HD DVD players.
Blue ray just sounds cool...
Modern and sci fi like...
Rolls off the tongue smoothly....
HD DVD sounds like a model of a refrigerator.
grandinosour 😂🤣🤣
agreed
HD DVD is too long, Blu Ray ( at the time) sounded prestigious, new and futuristic .
It's called blue ray as it sparks out blue rays from inside the DVD player when playing a DVD
Blue disc inside blue casing look way better than red HD DVD.
I remember seeing a shelf of HDDVDs in Toys R us about Ten years ago....How times have changed...
That was a different world
I went to Toys R Us the other day and found a locked door and the lights off
@@ManicEightBall ☹️ Damn it, I still don't want to grow up!
@@davezanko9051 I understand
The internet at the time implied that HD DVD was gonna take off, so I bought the $129 player for my X360....which became a paperweight within 6 months. At least I can still watch King Kong and Constantine on HD DVD if I want to,
CompanyMan: Bigger than you know. (like, 6'8)
MILES BRONSON I laughed too hard at this
11 inches...
Somethin else of his is also probably bigger than any of us know....and I’m not talking about his brain, which I’m sure we already know is uge
I'm sorry, I have to do this.
Company Mans dick is so big,
In the middle of summer the tip still has snow on it...
His dick is so big, it was once overthrown in a military coup.
It's now known as the democratic republic of dick
The term 20-06 makes me uncomfortable.
It'll become more normal as years go on and people like us that were alive at the time either get used to it or get old and die off.
Lmao 😂
Don't forget 20-08
I wanna be like grandpa simpson and say "ought six" personally.
I'll still call it "two-thousand-six" and "oh-six" even if it dates me. Get off of my lawn!
When Sony stuck a Blu ray drive in their Playstation, it was game over for HD DVD. Always liked the brown Amaray cases though, looked classy.
I truly believe that if the X box 360 came with an HD DVD drive we would all be using HD DVDs to this day.
@@bubba842 probably
@@bubba842 The thing is though that Microsoft wouldn't have done that in a million years. Their goal was always to launch first and build up a library as cheaply as possible. The only reason the 360 Core SKU even existed was so they could advertise the console at $300, compared to the PS3's ludicrous $500 starting price. What's also strange is that the HD DVD add on wasn't released until November of 2006... Microsoft needed to launch the HD DVD player with the console to gain any foothold with it, but no one bought it after the fact.
@@jktwice8235 it wasn't in their plan to. As you said they needed the 360 to be cheap to Compete with the PS3. They addbon was released a little late because of the price of the tech at the time. A statement was more of a what if, it was very unlikely to happen due to the price.
I don't like the cases of HD DVD. It's the very reason why I like Blu-ray more. Blu-ray covers look like game CD covers. HD DVD covers look like chocolate boxes with a film's poster on it.
I still have the HD DVD player for the 360 sitting on a shelf collecting dust. I picked the wrong side
Yes you did son, it's ok we all make mistakes
You were the chosen one!!
that remote is the shit.
i don't see it that way, i have both. sure they don't release any more hd-dvd movies, but what is out there is pretty good. it's nice as a collectors item.
accordgolfer It’s still on my shelf as well collecting dust while connected to my 4K OLED 😂
2019: Still own HD DVD Xbox add-on and still have my HD DVD collection. I consider it a part of electronics history and keeping mine in near mint condition.
What movies do you have?
I bought mine on a whim in 2017 and started amassing a collection ever since. Kinda worth it.
Im betting most if not all of the warner bros movies no longer work.
This lamb has a Toshiba HD-DVD player purchased at Walmart for $99.99 in October 2007. It’s still in this lamb’s equipment rack, along with a 4K Ultra HD disc player, S-VHS VCR, and Laserdisc player.
@@upeedinalamb5297 this ODST has a DVL-909 that he bought for $50
Interesting how Toshiba and Sony were fighting for formats even though Toshiba made the CPU for the ps3
Interesting that you brought this up as its somewhat common when large companies actually have separate divisions that act somewhat independent. A good example of this is Samsung making not only their own smart phones but also making the ram chips for most of the smartphones that are direct competitors. Also how LG makes both their own OLED TVs and also make the TV panel for Sony OLEDs due to the division of LG that actually sells the TVs and the one developing the tech are independent of each other.
Kind of like how Apple and Samsung are bitter rivals in phones but Samsung fabs a lot of chips and screens, For Apple.
@@filanfyretracker if I remember correctly Sony makes the cameras for most smartphones
IBM maybe?
@@tuff_lover Yeah, i believe the cell cpu was a joint venture. IBM was def involved with the cell cpu and the 360s power pc cpu
6:10 "Twenty-o-six"... you're an absolute monster. ☠
Well it's better than saying "Two thousand twenty".
I hear "Two thousand twenty" all the time.
@@charlieinfinite9434 Yeah well "Twenty Twenty" is the standard and "Two thousand twenty" sounds weird but I do hear it a lot sometimes
@@mattyian1208 I've been hearing it being called "oh, six" or "oh, 17"
@@charlieinfinite9434 I hear that all the time. We're not in the 2000's anymore and yet people saying like that anyway.
I prefer watching movies on Blu-ray over streaming media because there’s no compression, leading to a much more immersive movie
Every movie you’ve ever watched at home is compressed. It’s just a matter of how much it’s compressed. An uncompressed 2 hour movie would have a size of around 1 TB if not more.
Not only is the image itself compressed but the color is compressed (YCbCr 4:2:0). This means that Y (the black and white image) is at full 1080 lines resolution while the color is at 1/4 the resolution or 540 lines.
Even the DCPs (digital cinema prints) you watch in the theater are compressed but they’re compressed differently and have a much higher quality than Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray. Blu-rays and home media are video. DCPs are actually individual JPEG2000 pictures. 24 of these JPEG2000 pictures every second instead of a continuous video stream.
What is truly better on Blu-ray is the audio. While again it’s still compressed, it’s lossless compression (Dolby TrueHD, DTS HDMA) instead of lossy (DD 5.1, DTS). So when your receiver decodes these tracks the sound is identical to the 24-bit/48 KHz uncompressed LPCM master. Of course how much of a difference you can tell depends on the quality of your speakers and your ears.
With internal TV speakers most people will not hear a difference. With a solid AVR and 5.1 setup most people should be able to hear more clarity, punch and dynamic range.
@@BrianBeckman yeah, but there's "almost the same quality as source" compression and "looks like 480p" compression.
@@lecorsaire2283 most WILL not see or hear a difference
@@BrianBeckman Yes, but less so than streaming. Blu Ray and UHD still provide the best quality.
@Nerdism . . . a benefit with having a physical copy of a Blu-ray disc is that there are no assurances the video title will remain available on streaming services. I've heard of several popular movie titles from the 1980s and '90s that have been discontinued on streaming.
No region encoding was HDDVD's greatest asset. Probably also why some studios had a problem with it.
Nope , 1000s of studios used both , shit tons in porn industry , blu ray was superior format with far far better hatdware options
@@DarkepyonX but hd-dvd was cheaper, thats why the dvd is still life today
So, if U remember guys the HDDVD used bonus online, I never seen any BD with this kind of things, I steel buy HDDVD cause for me, it was the best from them, I really regret this cause now Sony has kill himself is video disc and the streaming wins format (like if this quality is not equal at all!) sorry for my english, I am french. Have a nice day ! All@n
@@DarkepyonX Superior format? It was too big for FHD and it is to short for UHD.. BD started as a very fragile disc with a poor slow interface... hardware decoding with HD DVD and interaction with the viewer were second to none in 2007
My pops bought the loser of both format wars both times. Betamax back in the early 80s, and HD-DVD more recently. 🤣
why didn't he invest in D-Theater vhs HD video in 2002, he would have added a 3rd?
you do realize hd-dvd has the same quality as bluray, both do 1080p.
@@demonpride1975 Yes, though Blu-ray has double the gigs, meaning fewer discs. HD-DVD was even the first to implement online features.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy not double, blu ray can do 10 gigs more. as single layer hd-dvd is 15 and blu ray is 25.
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What's even more interesting, is that the HD-DVD used to be the technically superior format, at least in the beginning.
HD-DVDs used the more efficient and qualitatively better VC-1 codec from the beginning, while the first Blu-Rays still used MPEG2.
HD-DVD players had full interactive features from the start, while Blu-Ray players had to go through a lot of profile updates until they catched up to what Toshibas machines where able to do, not to mention that some of the first machine couldn't even been updated to the latest profile. That's for example why it took MATRIX so long to be released on Blu-Ray.
Ultimately the Blu-Ray had only one advantage from the start and that was its higher capacity. While a single layer BD could hold up to 25GB (not 20 as wrongly mentioned in the video) and therefore 50GB as double layer, the HD-DVD was only able to hold up 15GB per layer and therefore 30GB as double layer. But before all went downhill for the HD-DVD, a three layer standard was finalized, using 17GB per layer resulting in a 51GB version, beating the maximum BD capacity at that time (if only by 1GB). Of course when 3D startet to become a thing, the BD got a also a three layer version with 100GB, but that was far later.
So if the XBOX360 would have launched with a built in HD-DVD player (not only wasn't the add on an elegant solution, it also was a movie player only. Games on HD-DVD where never supported) it could have maybe changed something. But in retrospect I'm glad that this format war didn't last any longer. Wars like this only hurt sales and therefore thank god that we didn't get another one of these with the UHD-BD.
I wonder if the outcome would've changed if the 360 had an integrated HD DVD player rather than an addon
I think that may have also increased its base price (not to ps3 lvl but still a bit) which would've made it a less compelling option for new consumers or ps fans...
@@akashP998 at the same time tho even with a higher base price if its still cheaper than the PS3 it may have been a more desirable option for many. Lets also remember the PS3 didn't have any interesting games at launch and third party titles were inferior compared to 360. Plus the 360 wasn't so reliant on a large hard drive while the PS3 required an install on most games
Sony was still a monster in the movie and sound business at that time, so it wouldn't of had that major of an effect on the format change. The additional storage of a standard, single layer Blu-ray still beat out the HD-DVD, and would continue to do so for a few years.
Given the extremely high failure rate on the first model XB360 it would most likely have made the situation even worse for the HDDVD side.
Of course, with such a drive that unit would of course also have to be much more expensive, at lest closer to PS3 price or loss. The higher cost of the drive itself, and also no super speed spun-up ordinary DVD because of that, means no base model without HDD anymore, adding even more cost. So maybe the system would have been more reliable as a more premium product, but that is really stretching the ifs and whataboutisms.
@@Stoppskylten in retrospect I actually feel like if they did include the drive the console mightve launched later (close to the PS3 and Wii in November 2006). Granted this is again going into major what ifs. While bad for the HD DVD format I feel MS made the right choice sticking to duel layer DVDs. The PS3 really overshot the need to Blu Rays until way into the gen and it really hurt the console and Sony
You should do the rise and fall of Myspace.
WeGon Holla please do this
CZcams, Netflix, Spotify killed Cds
WeGon Holla that would be amazing
Yeeeeesssss
What about this video:
*What Killed MySpace?*
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Sony was NOT going to loose this one after the huge VHS/Batemax loss they went through.
and minidisc
@@victimology7761minidisc only failed in the states, in the UK and other parts of Europe, it did quite well
@@victimology7761 minidisc didnt die to another format, it died from sonys own dumbassary with drm and proprietary shit.
Bought a used HD-DVD player and 100+ movies used a few years ago to expand my movie collection. They look and sound great.
Now theres only 5 major studios ever since 20th century fox was bought by the House of Disney.
There's still 6. Company man failed to mention MGM
then its not REALLY around.
The information was still accurate at the time of the format wars. The current state of things doesn't matter.
@@Astro-Rabby except it is still really around. It's a company >;]
Except its now taking orders from disney, it is not its own entity anymore. A 20th century fox production is now a disney production by nature of hierarchy and ownership. To me, anyway, it can't be a major studio if its owned by another major studio.
I didn't think anybody even bought hd DVD when I was in high school. Nobody really cared. To us and maybe most of America it was just accepted Blu Ray was the only option left.
DVD = Digital Versatile Disc
Not Digital Video Disc. Even though its unmistakably recognized either way.
"The Oxford English Dictionary
comments that, "In 1995 rival manufacturers of the product initially
named digital video disc agreed that, in order to emphasize the
flexibility of the format for multimedia applications, the preferred
abbreviation DVD would be understood to denote digital versatile disc."
The OED also states that in 1995, "The companies said the official name
of the format will simply be DVD. Toshiba had been using the name
‘digital video disc’, but that was switched to ‘digital versatile disc’
after computer companies complained that it left out their
applications."
And Blu Rays laser is not blue it’s ultra violet more like a purplish colour. Plus’s DVDs hold 8gb of data and Blu Ray holds 50 gb yes there are single layers but all store bought Blu Rays and DVDs are all mostly double layers. Plus some the other reasons Blu Ray won.
Better picture and sound quality
Protective layer that resists scratches
Blu Ray players could still play DVDs as well
There was one in every PS3
Digital Versatile Disc was Sonys version of DVD.
@@ryans413 It is not Ultraviolet, because then it would be invisible to our eyes (so no colour at all, rather than purple-ish).
The reason it is named "Blu-Ray" is that the higher frequency (lower wavelength) part of the spectrum is generally called "the blue end of the spectrum".
Thanks, Technology Connections
I heard about HD-DVD from a nerd classmate at the highschool, he said that there was a format war between it and another format but he didn't remember the name (Blu-ray) soon Blu-ray started to be a thing and I thought that HD-DVD didn't get to be commercialized. I have never seen an HD-DVD personally and until I saw some of them in the Internet by chance some years ago, I thought they were never released at all.
i saw them shortly after the war was over on fleetmarkets here and there.
VHS/Beta was 40 years ago?!? Oh noes, I'm so ooooooold....
My grandmother actually owned a Betamax and the quality of the video was damn good compared to VHS..
@@TheBrainSquared I think you're remembering it wrong. The difference between VHS and Beta was so small you'd need equipment to measure the difference. Unless your talking real early on and the Beta I speed but that was gone by 1979 and no Beta machine used that speed afterwards to record.
@D B 4 heads had nothing to do with picture quality during playback. The were for clear fast forward viewing, pause and slow-mo. Yes there was a quality war going on but VHS quickly matched any Beta improvements and for less money. VHS was simply the superior format in every way that mattered to consumers of the time period. Beta 1 may have looked slightly better but it was useless in the real world.(to short of a recording time)
@D B VHS would have retaken the market in 2002 if the public knew what D-Theater was.
Blu ray is just a lot more fun to say. Rolls off the tongue
Fun to think too. Fun to advertise too. HDDVD only applies to mega nerds because nerds like to say complicated things.
@@mitchjohnson4714 🤣🤣
@@mitchjohnson4714 I always just said dvd, didn't even know the full name was hddvd
I think part of why Blu-Ray also wasn't a bigger hit is because it felt like a DVD 2.0. I, personally, didn't even purchase a Blu-Ray player until 8 years ago, when I discovered that Blu-Ray discs were scratch-resistant. I didn't care about technical specs, but that was an instant win in my eyes.
Also, when it came out, HD content was being sold to everyone who was still watching DVD on an old, probably massive 480p max CRT. True 1080p displays didn't come down in price enough until around 2008-2009 or so for most everyone to upgrade and actually SEE the difference I believe.
@@ballsrgrossnugly Plus many people were probably hesitant to rebuy their entire DVD collection on Blu-Ray, so they were sticking to DVD. Why buy an expensive player for a handful of discs when you already have a system that works fine? I also know quite a few people who have a problem watching HD movies. They are so used to low quality home video that the sharpness of HD puts them off. I only switched over when Blu-Ray releases of my favorite movies started to add more bonus content than the regular DVD release... but I only purchase films I love and know I will watch again. For everything else, streaming...
Really ??
@@jeanleconquerant4594 Yeah. Why would I spend several hundred dollars more on a prettier-looking video player? I need a more-convincing reason than that.
CaptainRaccoonWhitly and now with 4K blue rays what do you think
Blu-rays are pretty cheap and affordable these days; unlike in 2006 when they came out. We're talking that there's tons of movies on such format for 5 bucks in sites like eBay, which is great: given the fact that you actually own something, when you buy a disc. The one thing I hate the most about streaming platforms is that you're at the expense of an internet connection and having to pay only to have access, not to own anything. Besides, movies are sometimes removed, while nobody can erase your discs.
I like that Naruto style flashback to something that happened 2 minutes ago lol
that damn swing
I bought an LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD/DVD player a couple of years ago to add to my electronics systems. I still look for cheap HD-DVDs to add to my collection.
Sounds like *Techmoan* shopping for discontinued formats.
With the PS3, it wasn’t just expensive for that. It held PS2 in it as well, holding 3 consoles and a blue ray player.
I guess people just saw the Phat PS3 as just a game console and not anything else...
but all those card readers are outright ridiculous
In this comment: 1+1=3
For the storage capacity, it was expensive at launch. But now Sony usually doesn't push it.
@@mjc0961 the PS-2 could also play PS-1 games. So the PS-2 was already two consoles.
blu ray, dvd, cd, spotify, netflix, youtube & even the ps store to get digital downloads of movies & games. all in one was great for me, tho i watched movies on it more then played games lol
I don't know why they don't just discontinue stand alone DVD releases. The blu-rays pretty much all come as DVD & blu-ray combo packs. This would pull people into the HD era
or stop movie purchases altogether...
@@SupremeNerd?
Dvd fills in a hole for especially budget-minded customers.
I guess it's because DVD was cheaper, making it popular
@Bob so I'm assuming that your message wasn't for me. I'm actually NOT into the whole streaming thing as I too would rather have the movie or Album in my collection and not have to worry about Raising my data plan to watch it listen to them
Actually, DVD doesn't stand for Digital VIDEO Disc like we all thought. It actually stands for Digital VERSATILE Disc.
It stood for Digital Video Disc. They later changed the acronym from Video to Versatile, which was supposed to help "sell" the idea that it was, well, "versatile". Toshiba kept using the acronym "Digital Video Disc" longer than most of the companies in the consortium that developed the format. Almost nobody who actually says the acronym out loud says "versatile" because that is how sentient spiders in human suits talk, not actual humans. The change is a retrofit that sounds terrible and is clearly the result of a board room meeting without enough oxygen in the room. trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=digital%20video%20disc,digital%20versatile%20disc
this might be the nerdiest thing I read on CZcams today...... AND THAT'S SAYIN' SOMETHING!!!!
It originally stood for "digital video disk", but when DVDs started to be used for data storage (around the time of consumer DVD-R being introduced), they revised the term to "digital versatile disk", to symbolize both movie & data storage capabilities.
Is that like how it became "Kentucky Fresh Chicken" for a while?
Actually, You are inaccurate so you did not properly interject with "Actually." It was called first adopted the other then completely abandoned the "Versatile" label option. Also because they knew people like you would ruin DVD format by themselves. Don't be "this guy" doing this you are not wanted at any party or gathering being 'this guy'...
I've never heard anybody pronounce it "Twenty Oh Six" before.
I say it too. Only makes sense.
@@NintendoPsycho Thanks for your comment, I've been trying to correct people for years, with not much success.
I ask them, "How would you say this number...1999?" Universally their answers are all the same...it starts with NINETEEN.
Then I add that saying One Thousand Nine Hundred and Ninety Nine just sounds stupid
and shouldn't the next century start with a TWENTY, but usually by then they've lost interest in what I'm talking about and just tell me to shut up.
He also said "impordent" at least twice, which I found oddly irritating for reasons I cannot explain.
😂 same
David Butler it’s the exact same amount of syllables, and IMO it rolls of the tongue better.
Two-thou-sand-six
Twen-ty-oh-six
Honestly love and miss these “vs” videos, it’s great to see this gem be brought to the light and some of my favorite videos of yours have been the old vs vids, especially NBA vs ABA, love all your vids tho !
The PS3 wasn't so expensive because of the Blu--ray player. Though it did have its impact, it was mostly due to having a full on PS2 inside every PS3 for backwards compatibility on the earliest units that made the PS3 so expensive. The price dropped significantly when they decided to remove the PS2 hardware from PS3s and rather use software emulation for backwards compatibility
Majority was the blu-ray and the two chips. The full PS2 chip was nothing in comparison to the rest of the system. They only removed it to drop the price to remain competitive with the 360. You cant remove the blu-ray or the cell/rsx to save money because then it wouldnt be a ps3. The ps2 hardware probably cost $20 for the silicon if that, they also removed the card reader and 2 usb ports. It was overall part of the cost cutting measure, but the blu-ray drive was still a far larger chunk of the cost to manufacture. I think the cell processor alone was over $200 and the original blu-ray drive was estimated to be $300+. They still lost money on every $400 non-BC ps3 because of the blu-ray and the cell, it just hurt sony less and made it more price competitive at the cost of all the features many people didn't use. The PS2 SoC wasn't $200 worth of hardware, they were selling ps2 slims for less than that when the ps3 launched, and they were making a profit on those.
I'm very surprised you didn't mention anything about the porn industry choosing to go with blu-ray. This was also a major reason why blu-ray won the format war.
LOL! I was gonna comment this too. Well not exactly the same thing. I remember discussing this with co-workers and somebody saying it would lose because of porn.
porn was a vhs supporter back then also if i recall..
They even mentioned this in Tropic Thunder.
lmfao
Porn controls all format wars. It's the only reason VHS won
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Blu-ray vs 4K
Blu-ray can do 4k
@@cdsbradley Blu-ray can 8K with 22.2
Jay Sway
Or.... HD DVD 4K Blu-Ray Max. 👊🏽👍🏽
4K Blu-ray isn't so much a competitor as it is a successor....though DVD is still around. So he'd simply be comparing products.
Donald Bradley no it can’t. Can it? I don’t think my Blu-ray can view 4K
I swear, there's something about your voice that just feels so relaxing and comfortable, its honestly kinda weird.
Company man asmr
@Standing While White & Proud No Shame Then why on earth do you watch him?
Big HD DVD fan here. I still collect these. Thrift stores are a great source for finding these for under $2. Own two HD DVD Xbox 360 add-ons and a Toshiba HD DVD Player. It's a fun side hobby.
It's the experience any different from Blu Ray, or is it essentially the same exact thing just with their own players?
@@nthgth The Universal releases on HD DVD and Blu-ray look exactly the same. Same menus and all, some of the other studio releases are similar, some differ. Overall, it's pretty much the same thing.
9:33 The Blu-ray Alliance on February 19, 2008:
"One to go."
When I was lad, "Blue Ray" was a guy that sold us pirate pornos, from the boot of his Volvo.
A true antrupunure
Aye,good times
We have a Peter Kaye fan I see.
Blue Ray is big in Japan... He's done well
Other than the outdated intro and a couple of odd edits, this video seemed almost as high quality as your recent work. Nice job, and congrats again!
I prefer physical media. I own the medium, they can’t come back and add Jabba the hut latter and they can’t make it disappear.
Physical discs feel more valuable and make me feel nostalgic from going on vacation with the portable video players or the family getting together to choose a disk to watch.
Twenty-oh-six/seven/ eight? Man that's weird to hear.
The current year is two-thousand and nine-teen. Ten years ago the year was two-thousand and nine. I think it sounds better using two-thousand for the 2000s and nine-teen for the 1900s.
Subscriber Yeah I don’t think OP is confused on that. Most people I knew back then and now refer to 2008 as “two thousand (and) eight” not “twenty oh eight”
Saying “twenty nineteen” is more common because it sounds less strange.
Yeah, what they said. Nobody in 2008 said twenty-oh-eight. People didn't start using the "twenty so-and-so" convention until the 2010's, and I've never heard it used retroactively to refer to the 00's. Just sounds super awkward.
Twisted Logic I agree that it’s not common, but i think the twenty o 8 sounds better in hindsight. Thousand is such a harsh sounding word.
But, e.g., as far as I know everybody describes the year the Great San Francisco Quake happened as "nineteen oh six". Why should "twenty oh six" be any different?
By the time i got my first Blu Ray disk as a teen, HD DVD was already dead.
HD DVD was dead the second it started.
Same here, but mainly because I also had an HD-DVD player.
I should have waited.
Nah DVD just rebranded as Blu Ray
are you a girl, mercury?
@@JackieFuckingChan sorry no. Just a Sailor moon fan.
I had "The Game" on HD DVD. I had a Panasonic HD DVD & Blu Ray combo player, so i was set regardless.
I just lost it
5:42 I thought that Colombia only made a good coffee, but now I get that it also produce films. Wow!
Boooo
Lame joke 🙄
5:45 I had no idea Sony owned Shakira's home country, good for them.
Sony owning Cocaine Land...
Makes a lot of sense
Correction* I believe DVD stands for Digital Versatile Disc.
DVD can actually stand for either; so you’re both right.
Correct.
Other correction hd dvd is for high density digital versatile disc
@@leny4838 Yep, www.researchgate.net/publication/233283035_Triple-wavelength_optical_pickup_head_designs_for_compact_disk_digital_versatile_disk_and_high-density_digital_versatile_disk_devices since 2005
it does.
To me it felt like it went DVD -> HD DVD -> Blue ray
I always thought blue ray would win because the name was better. Lol
I never bought a blue ray disc in my life. When DVD was getting phased out, downloading and streaming movies were on the rise.
Love the original intro. Can't believe it's been 2 years already. Happy CZcams Birthday! :)
Fun fact: DVD doesn’t stand for Digital Video Disc. It’s actually Digital Versatile Disc. Great video company man!
Fuck off
H. E. M. Chill out
RIP, most of Best Buy's movie section.... remember when it was more than one aisle? I do. :-/
Yeah I loved going to Best Buy just mostly for the movie section. Now it's almost none existing.
My stores still have multiple lines of movies.
The packaging for HD DVDs still looks so cool to me. I wish blu ray players could play both, just so I could have a few in my collection.
100% agree, that would be really cool and the red cases do look really cool alongside the blue Blu Ray ones. Variety is nice.