Hair Metal From 1996-2000... Underrated Or Better Forgotten?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- In this one my buddy Ryan and I discuss Hair Metal during a bleak period: 1996-2000. However, was it as bad as most of us remember? Maybe... maybe not. Come check it out!
Based solely on your discussions, I finally got WILDSIDE - Under the Influence on CD, the Bad Reputation remastered.
GREAT album. I have it on cassette, but thank God for the Bad Reputation release. I didn't think i would ever get it on CD.
Thanks for another great show Guru, I always get some new old music to check out when I watch your show.
Man, thank you so much, Mark, seriously, I appreciate that.
Don't kick yourself for secretly loving Shadow Life...
Guilty as charged.
Its not a bad album its different but not bad i am still getting used to the sound but i like it
96-2000 was not a good time period for us. If you have to dig up a Michael Monroe solo album that wasn’t even released stateside… you’re really searching deep down in the rabbit hole. Great albums tonight though! Lotta great stuff! 🍻and keep up the great work.
Hey, man, thanks a lot for the kind words. You're right... not a great period at all. Some decent music, but not a period a love to revisit. Thanks again for supporting the channel, I really appreciate it.
Most of the albums mentioned I tbh haven't given much thought to. I often and probably incorrectly in some cases assume that alot of the 90's/00's albums released by 80's bands in one way or another feature a more modern sound or style. With that being said some absolutely killer obscure glam got released in that time period. Guttersluts, Spiral Fetish, Orphan Punks, Hollywood Teasze, The Mistakes, The Peppermint Creeps, Pretty Boy Floyd, Trash Brats and Sick Six Crush etc....all released albums in that era that i absolutely love!
Shit, Brother, I need to do an episode on that stuff, but I need to spend some more time with it before I do. Working on it! And, hey, I really appreciate your support. Seriously.
davy vain - in from out of nowhere
butch walker - left of self centered
journey - arrival
danger danger - four the hardway
faith no more - album of the year
poison - power to the people
la guns - waking the dead
firehouse - category 5
bon jovi - crush
That butch walker album was a really good pop rock record. Right after that he tried going all Americana singer songwriter Emo and lost me. He just sorta goes with whatevers trendy. I find that shyt annoying. It just tells me they want to be famous and don’t actually care about music.
Shit, I love that Butch Walker album... and I really biffed not including Waking the Dead--I dig that album. Thanks for setting my shit straight, Brother. ;-)
@@HairMetalGuru419waking the dead came out in 2002, so you're not in error 🙌
Guru, take another listen to Slaughter’s Back To Reality. It is awesome, so much swagger and groove. Jeff Blando adds a Zakk Wilde feel to it. Ryan, if you give Belly To Belly another spin, it’s an album that benefits from being very aware of the lyrics. They are brilliant. 1996 to 2000 were huge years for me because my band was getting the opportunity to open for all our heroes when they came through town. We had an iconic club that everyone would play on their way up or on their way down (and some like Ozzy and Bon Jovi would play it to warm up for big tours). So if it was hard rock/ hair metal we would get the call. We got to open for Warrant, Firehouse, Great White, Tesla, Sebastian Bach, Dee Snider, Kix, it was a magical time. A few more releases that I loved:
Mr. Big - Get Over It 1999 (Ritchie Kotzen on guitar and it smokes)
Slaughter - Revolution 1997 ( some great songs, CMC records kept the genre alive for awhile)
Buckcherry - Self Titled 1999 (absolute blast of fresh air, just blew me away)
Then Poison had 2 releases in 2000 - Crack A Smile & More and Power To The People. The & More part of Crack A Smile is pure shit but the Blues Saraceno songs are fantastic and the 5 new songs on Power are great but the live tracks are worthless.
Great video, always enjoy when Ryan is on! There are a few albums from these years I have to mention: I really enjoy the first two Funny Money albums, War&Peace- The Flesh and Blood Sessions, Erotic Suicide's second album - Perseverance, Mad Margritt's first album - In the Name of Rock, Shameless - Queen 4 a Day, Bad to the Bone- Itchin', and Davy Vain- In From Out of Nowhere. Two that are great but were releases of older material are: Jailhouse-S/T and Badlands- Dusk. I should've included Jailhouse's Alive in a Mad World EP for 1989, "Please Come Back" is one of my favorite underground hair metal songs
Goran Edman was the vocalist on Eclipse and Fire and Ice really good Yngwie malmsteen albums.
I need to check that shit out. Thanks, man.
New Tattoo is totally legit! The spirtual heir to Too Fast For Love and the proper follow up to Dr. Feelgood. If that record comes out in 92, Motley might have survived the 90s.
I think so to
Do you guys remember a band called Johnny Crash?
I saw motley’s dr feelgood tour here in Ohio with Tesla summer of ‘90 and Johnny crash opened the show and that was the first I’d ever heard of them. They were surprisingly loud but in a good way. Motley must of gave them good sound lol.
I fuckin' love the "Neighborhood Threat" album, absolutely.
hey kid
johny crash rocked 🤘
I got autographs from the singer and guitar player at a McDonalds the day after their show with Motley at Val du Lakes in Michigan. Only one album but it's a good one.
There is a Kevin Dubrow connection throughout the hair metal saga . Obviously the beginning with Quiet Riot springing the genre into mainstream with MTV and Billboard #1 . It would also be KD who realized around 99 that these bands could still draw a crowd, and if they consolidated their efforts , they could really draw a crowd . Sorta of a hair metal Lollapolooza . That’s when I came home in leave from the Marines and would see the first Glam Slam Metal Jam in the Woodlands Texas . It would reignite bands like Poison , Cinderella , Warrant , and ultimately get Motley original Crue back in 04 ( Vince was solo on Glam Slam) .
There Goes My Heart by EZN is one of the greatest pop songs ever that hardly anyone knows. That and Baby Loves You.
And you mentioned that it could have been a TV theme - There Goes My Heart was used in the trailer of the movie The Promotion, starring John C. Reilly and Seann William Scott.
The more you know :)
Ryan you HAVE to check out the third Enuff Z'Nuff album Animals With Human Intelligence. All the hallmarks and quality of their sophomore Strength and arguably at times heavier. Mary Anne Lost Her Baby, Rock n World, Bring It On Home, Master Of Pain, These Daze, the list is endless. Animals gave them their trilogy \m/
Former Julliet singer Kenny McGee released an album in 1997 Kenny McGee And Lefty, which I find really great. Catchy, heavy hard rock.
Indeed, i love the song Dont ya worry from this album
Poison - Crack a smile
Slaughter - Back too Reality
Slash's Snake pit - Aint life Grand
Quiet Riot - Alive and well
Dokken - Erase the Slate
I still love Psycho Circus. I don't care with any artist who wrote what or played on what, I just like good rock.
Great to see your episodes! I am learning a lot! What about you two doing a Frontiers records top 10??
Great episode. Definitely a couple that I haven’t heard of and going to check out. I’m 52 and grew up loving the 80’s hair metal and still into it just as much as then but I always think of buckcherry as a bastard child of GnR and L.A. Guns and I would put Buckcherry’s ‘99 debut on my list and Saliva’s 2000 debut. Those would be the bands that obviously weren’t out in the 80’s but I thought they were bringing back that classic feel especially Buckcherry. And I love that great white album and the new tattoo album. The song Fake is a great motley tune. Bon Jovi’s crush album is cool. Different vibe but cool and I like most of slaughter’s back to reality album. Slaughter has always had a cool opening track with their albums
Shit, I can't believe I didn't include the Buckcherry debut, because I'm right with you, I love that album. I must've forgotten it came out during this time frame... shit. Also need to revisit Back to Reality. Hey, I really appreciate your support, Brother.
@@HairMetalGuru419all good brother. I seriously love your channel. It’s like I’m talking to one of my buddies when watching this channel lol.🤘🏼
ZZ Top released Rhythmeen in 96, a return to their classic 70s sound, with filthy fuzzy guitar and bass, and grooving riffs. Heavier than most their other alɓums.
Now I'll have to check that shit out tomorrow... thanks for the recommendation, man.
@@HairMetalGuru419 Cool man. I hope you dig it! The whole album rocks.
That fucking Snakes album exquisite, Truly. Good luck finding it.
Hey Mister on that Great White album is one of my favorite GW songs of all time, that and Silent Night.
Shit, right, that is a damn good song.
Good call about "Euphoria" and it would have been a much better successor to "Hystera " than "Adrenalize" was.
I saw Enuff Znuff open for Ace Frehley a few years ago. Chip talked more about cocaine in his stage raps than any other singer I've ever seen.
Fresh back from a woketube incarceration. Time to rock.
I get a 24 hour timeout once a week for telling truths.
Welcome back, Brother! Glad you're here, man, I mean that.
These people are truly on a totalitarian power trip...f them. One thousand times and again.
I need to check out the snake album I love Jorn Lande and i love Whitesnake so im sure ill love it lol thanks for giving info guys .
It sounds like Whitesnake from 1981.
My favorite Concert was when my wife and I went to see a Warrant/Poison concert. Turns out Enuff Z'nuff and Quiet Riot opened up, and Enuff Z'nuff sounded amazing.
Anyways, a great 2000 album: Danger Danger - REturn of the Great Gildersleeves
I saw the same tour in Nashville. I met Quiet Riot that night & They stole the show , they were amazing.
Great selection of bands and killer albums during this time period.
Awesome video! any chance you have listened to the album Vinegar Blood from 96 by Jan Stenfor (Nasty Suicide)?
also if you like Swedish glam and punk i would DEFINATLY recommend the band Reckless Love you should definitely check out their song "Monster"- it came out in 2016 but sounds like it was ripped right out of the 80s. Also this is not directly related to this era but have you checked out the EP 100 degrees in the shade by the band Cherry Bombz- it came out in 86 and featured Andy McCoy and Nasty suicide.
Hey Guru ..you want more Swedish Bands ..here you go..Crashdiet, Reckless Love ( technically From Finland ) , H.E.A.T ( you ll know the singer) , Santa Cruz , Lipz, Treat , Crazy Lixx , The Poodles, Babylon Bombs , Nasty Idols , Trench Dogs , Sister , Vains of Jenna , Bullettrain , Fatal Smile , Swedish Erotica, Lordi...there s a few off of the top of my head ..enjoy ..let me know what you think
Hey bro, thanks for this list. I've been picking up nearly as much bands from the comments as I have from the videos.
I'm spilling the beans.. the guru lives in Seattle.. he works for sub pop records
That Autograph album is great. My favorite track is one not mentioned, When I'm Gone. Had it actually been released in the 80s, that is a hit song.
Okay, gonna check it out now... thanks for watching, man.
Here goes...
-LA Guns shrinking voilet (this is amazing, a spectacular album with Jizzy Pearl singing, he and Tracii had great chemistry, it's my #1 for this time period)
-The Loveless / a tale of gin and salvation (the guys from the Electric Angels, great album, more similar to Candy's whatever happen to fun than the EA album)
-Warrant belly to belly (Indian giver, letter to a friend... loved it then, still love it today)
-Kiss Psycho circus (Gene's tunes are a highlight - within, journey, we are one)
-Kiss carnival of souls (Gene again kills it - Childhood end, seduction of the innocent, hate, i walk alone)
-Motley Crue new tattoo (I didn't like it at the time but both 'she needs rock and roll' & 'first band on the moon' are killer)
-Cheap Trick 97 (excellent)
-Van Halen III (maybe I'm the only one who loves this album, Ed's playing is great and timeless, and i liked Gary's spin... not better than Fair Warning or Women & Children, but it's Van Frickin Halen)
-Marvelous 3's hey album (the guys were in southgang, so i say it counts, and it is great!)
-(honorable mention) Motley Crue generation swine - i really enjoy a few of the tunes (afraid, generation swine, anybody out there, let us prey confessions, flush) but i understand why it gets crapped on...
One album that rivals the sheer crappiness of Dokken's 1997 "Shadowlife" is Lynch Mob's 1999 "Smoke This" !
I don't get all the hate for "Shadowlife" by Dokken. It is a departure from the standard sound but I actually like it more than the "Dysfunctional" album that preceded it. As far as ballads go if you like "Nothing Left to Say" off Dysfunctional you should like "Bitter Regret" off Shadowlife. Beautiful song. The other ballad "Convenience Store Messiah" has some nice lyrics about a store worker that helps local homeless people. I really like that one too. I like the faster songs such as "Sky Beneath My Feet", "Here I Stand", "Puppet on a String" also too. To be fair I like grunge and alternative music too and if you absolutely hate that I can understand why Shadowlife wouldn't appeal. However, I still insist that "Bitter Regret" is a really nice ballad that should be given a fair listen.
Part of the problem was few bands could get any radio airplay or promotion at all. There were actually some good albums that came out but so many of the bands were on something like the CMC International Label at that time. I appreciated the label signing so many of the bands but they didn't have the finances to push anyone. Not hair metal but Bruce Dickinson put out a couple of great solo albums.
Yeah, like I said, these bands could've put out The Dark Side of the Moon and radio wasn't going to push it. And that sucked. Hey, thanks for watching man.
Exactly and so much is perception. People already assume they are going to hate something because it "doesn't sound like the old stuff" automatically.
Their were some great albums released between those years thar I enjoyed erase the slate ,new tattoo, alot of people don't like shadowlife so far their are 4 songs I really like and I listen to that album gives it another chance
Rock music in general really began slipping in the late nineties, not just hair metal.
Awesome channel guru a really good hair metal band is Kidd blue song called big trouble
Agree! Fatal Attraction is another fantastic song from them! 😎🤟
Oh yeah that is a banger
May 1996 Great White released Let it Rock. Has some really good songs on it. It’s definitely a forgotten album. It’s not on Apple music or anything. Thanks for giving Great White some love🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Can’t get there from here got a little more attention because they toured with RATT, poison & la guns.
Only positive thing about Def Leppard Slang album We got front row seats for around $70. Played all the good songs. Thanks for another good video 🤘🏻
@JimbobZ17 Let It Rock is the superior of the two albums IMHO. I never got into Can't Get There From Here. 😎🤟🎸🎵
@@michaelhenderson5946 agree Let it Rock is a harder album. My world, lives in chains & Hand on the trigger are really great songs .
Psycho City is my favorite. That album should have made them huge. 🤘🏻
It was...bleak. The one two punch of Psycho Circus and The Phantom Menace almost killed me.
I've always listened to it even when it fell out of favor, still do long live
rock n roll
I'll throw in Bob Catley - The Tower (1998) and Legends (1999) - great albums written by Gary Hughes. And if you like David Glen Eisley, there's the s/t Murderer's Row from 1996, a super group also featuring Bob Kulick and Jimmy Waldo (I don't think it originally got an US release.) And because it's Mike Tramp, his solo album Capricorn from '97 - it's softer but I like it a lot.
The 90s stuff from Yngwie and Pell is great, and if you like this, definitely check out what Riot did during those dark years!
Dokken is one of the best hair metal bands ever!! Erase the Slate was great. Saw them on that tour. Also love the first three Enuff Z Nuff albums.
Hair metal Guru and subscribers if there is any rare hair metal that you want me to make a video for an upload on my channels let me know I will be happy to do it for you..
I enjoy creating new videos for the song sometimes. Sometimes there's a little commentary before and after just to make it a little different.. I will check the comments here I don't get them on my videos.. so let me know if there's anything you want like I said.. today lots of Vixen and DC LaCroix.. the other channel is West Coast Grind house party
This is James Anthony really enjoyed the video this one was a hard one for me my list is
Warrant Belly To Belly
Dokken Erase The Slate
Enuff Z Nuff 1985
Wasp Helldorado
Kiss Psycho Circus
Motley Crue New Tattoo
Great White Can't Get Their From Here
That's my list not much to choose from for me but another great video Anthony keep them coming
James, thanks again, Brother, for always supporting the channel. Honestly, I truly appreciate it.
Check out The Bronx, their first album is something I feel like you’ll dig. Get on it!
My 99 , I would go see Kid Rock at a Theatre while stationed near San Diego . An unknown Buckcherry would open up and blow the show away . I was on repeat with that first Buckcherry record . I would also discover another band who opened for the Black Crowes , Bare Jr . Now this band was unique . Frontman is son of country artist Bobby Bare , and they are a weird Nirvana meets Skynyrd mix . Find and listen to Boo-tay by Bare Jr . Sammy Hagar is genius , he took on this hard rock Jimmy Buffett thing . I dig a song called One Sip of his , once again , Van Buffett
KINGDOM COME and KROKUS have a s*** ton of albums that you need to look at
I love 90s 2000 hair metal...Danger Danger DAWN .. Warrant UNDERTOW... Kingdom Come...Britny Fox SPRINGHEAD MOTOR SHARK
Today is the day. Fresh young beard..and flannel.. rub the Band-Aid off and do it already
Let’s do this!
I'm all in, Brother! haha
I don’t really visit these years for hair metal , certainly a weak era . Which is why the second wave of hair/sleaze metal from Sweden /Europe became a great little movement from 2000-2010ish , like Vains of Jenna , Crashdiet , reckless love , dirty penny and like you mentioned hardcore super star 🤘
Sammy and neal schon had another attempt at a super group Planut Us forgot all about those songs though.
sammy left and schon replaced him with jeff scott soto. thats how soto wound up in journey for a short time.
I'd totally buy a shirt that says, "They call me the Guru!"
Here we go!
And there we went! ;-) Thanks for being here, my Brother...
@HairMetalGuru419 your welcome, I'm always busy editing and livestream myself but I got time for you God bless brother
Its hard to listen to Enuff z Nuff without DV.
agreed…songwriting, singing, and production all suffer when he left.
@@patrickreeves4650 His newer solo stuff is really good.
I really haven't spent much time at all with the post-Donnie releases. Yeah, I can't imagine them being up to par with his shit.
@@byrontownsel7274 he can do no wrong in my book.
@@HairMetalGuru419 This channel rules!
What's it going to take to get you to talk about Venom.. I might have to do it whatever It Is.. check out the last three albums fallen angels.. up from the depths.. storm the gates
Velocity is a lesson in great guitar solos & songwriting ! Just a little late to the party ! David Victor knows stuff ! 😂😂😂🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
Listened to some of that album tonight... good shit.
@@HairMetalGuru419 truly a hidden gem !
You Don't Amaze Me Anymore slays!! 😎🤟
@@michaelhenderson5946 hearing that opening riff , I was in !
I was privileged enough to have Velocity played on my local radio station.
HAIL Jorn Lande, so many awesome albums, including solo.
@@craigmetallaw that album he did with the band Millenium called "Hourglass" is utterly classic in my book! 😎🎸🎵
@@michaelhenderson5946 It is good! I've got that on CD, autographed by the band!
Does kiss psycho circus count as a hair metal album?
Close enough for me.
Yes absolutely. Anything hair metal arguably started with Kiss
D.C. LaCroix..Malice .. White Sister .Hellion.
just can't do any lillian axe and i'm from louisiana
Sweet Pain > Sneeze Beez
The Japanese copy has a great song upon your lips that's not on the U.S. COPY of erase the slate
Axel Rudi Pell was originally in a band called steeler not to be confused with Ron keel band steeler but anyway he in my opinion never lost his form and just kept making the music he likes through the 90s and until today but many other bands lost that formula by 96 especially but a few returned to it by 99-2000 for example TNT 1997 firefly to me isn’t very good but TNT transistor 1999 is much better and closer to that original TNT formula as always thank you for these videos your subscribers love them and we appreciate you
those steeler albums are kick arse
They sure are
Better Forgotten
Goran Edman
just letting you know... I hate the album
Helldorado is trash. WASPs worst cd by a mile
Wasp never put out a bad album though
Damn, tell us how you really feel.
Helldarado isn't a bad album. But they definitely went full 180 from where they went with their previous album, K.F.D. In which was a much different from anything else they've done. But one hell of an album regardless. They definitely shocked many people with that album and stage show for that one. Helldarado was a 180 back to their early days. And pretty darn good to me. But I would of probably preferred another angry album like K.F.D. from them before going back to the earlier type of music