Deconstructing Deuteronomy 28 | Blessings, Curses & Coercion
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- In this episode, we'll deconstruct Deuteronomy 28, where god lays out the blessings and curses for those who obey, and those who don't.
Please keep in mind that all everything I say here is my subjective opinion, and is intended to deconstruct fundamentalist/evangelical/conservative Christian ideologies from an ex christian perspective
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NEVER, NEVER, NEVER let it be said God loves ANYONE unconditionally. There are STACKS of conditions. Great job Kristi.
God does love unconditionally. However, this God in Deuteronomy 28 is NOT God Almighty. This God is a little god...Yehovah.
@@Josieb4008source?
'Love' the feeling or 'love' the actions? If you act your love as if someone loved you but they really didn't, you are simply naive, which is not a virtue. If you let them go their own way because they will do nothing else, that is love of their freedom and agency. God does that always, which is unconditional. He just lets us suffer the consequences of our actions, which is also love.
You seem to have a very limited idea of love.
@@JessCArtist
Your source IS the bible. The english word God is very generalized in the old testament, but when you break it down studying verses with a Hebrew concordance, it reveals more.
@@craigsmith1443Do you think consequence of ones actions the same as imposed consequence from another? For example. You run a light and kill someone on a bike. Run a light and kill a cyclist that God put in your path to punish you.
When I was trying to convert my ex-boyfriend to Christianity I said to him that God created us so that we could worship him.
He replied that this was a very selfish egotistical reason to create human beings.
I had to admit that he was right
I am bawling suddenly, idk, it just hit me so hard. This one…
I am so hurt that I spent so much of my life dedicated to trying to worship this god and that my family is stuck in this religion, So blind to its evils. My own husband defends it still…How isolated I’ve become because of this religion. It’s so evil I just can’t stand it and it grieves me.
Thank you Kristi, you are doing something huge with this channel, please be encouraged! You are so talented and gifted with the way you can speak and the way your mind works. I appreciate you so much ❤
The Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death
is really impossible for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, all kinds of Religions simply because
Atheists, Christians, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW
and are fully aware that they don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence...
not bothered at all and just don't care even if their willful and deliberate mockeries, opposition, and defiance of
the Creator's Sovereignty clearly written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and
Jesus Christ's authority clearly written in Matthew 28: 18
result in their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world KNOW
and are fully aware that they are opposed, against, offended, and angered but can do nothing but face the TRUTH
that
all persons on earth who submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25. 26
are clearly
the loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator on earth
who
are definitely bringing upon themselves the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful earth without liars, deceivers, slanderers, traitors, perverts, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8.
All persons on earth who trick and deceive their own families, relatives, and neighbors to believe and preach the lies and false teachings of the liars and anti-Christs about "immortality of the souls or the heaven and hellfire doctrine", "rapture", "Armageddon", "Trinity", and "reincarnation"
are obviously
the liars, traitors, ungrateful, and deceitful human beings
who KNOW
and are fully aware that they are opposed, against, offended, and angered but can do nothing but face the TRUTH
that
human beings have no immortal souls and just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6
but
loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's disciples and followers, and many others will not remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead,
in the right and proper time and as written in John 11: 25, 26,
the Creator will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854Cute Manifesto you wrote there. Until you get to the Book of Revelations, where God has already told his “prophets” over 2000 years ago that, basically, he F***ed up and will be back to annihilate everything into oblivion. Kinda ruins the whole experience getting to ending of the book, no? But of course, as a Christian, you’re now the special exception to everyone else’s rule. Convenient huh?
@@roc5291 all I can say is this -
All Atheists, Agnostics, Evolutionists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world
are obviously
Satan the Devil's liars, cruel, merciless, and deceitful slaves on earth
who are remorseless, shameless, and just don't care even if their lies, cruelties, deceptions, hypocrisies, and false teachings about Trinity, Armageddon, heaven and hellfire, rapture, and reincarnation
hurt, offend, insult, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of human beings that result in their sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness and deaths.
All Atheists, Christians, and fanatics of all religions in the world don't submit to the authority of Jesus Christ as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth.
Are you denying that or you are admitting now that I'm telling the Truth about worthless and useless Atheism and Religious Fanaticism?
Tell me...
It is so sad what religion really is
The Pre Rabbinic Judaism religion?
I litteraly screamed at the eating kids part. I'm atheist and never believed, but I got chills, wtf is this book and why do people still worship it😮💨
most of them don't read these bits.
Most people aren't reading this passage regularly or ever. The bible is really long.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessryeah
"I form the light (summer - crop production) and create darkness (winter - non crop production); I make peace (summer/woman) and create evil (winter/man)" Isa. 45.7). See Isaiah 47.3, where Isaiah (Jupiter/Jehovah) as the savior sun, comes out (at the spring equinox), not as a man (barren earth) but as a woman (nurture).
I thought I knew the bible. I didn't know that was in there.
Some people can't figure out that murder is bad, without religion telling them that it is bad...SMH!😮
Murder isn't always bad. It depends on the situation
With those verses, murder is being proposed and recommended.
@@sarahrobertson634 Murder is literally always bad, we have words to describe justifiably killing someone
What they're really saying is without the Bible they don't know right from wrong. Sad
(isn't always bad) Hmm: I suspect you're a 2 Kings 10 fan, aren't you?
So - how about Joshua 7:24? Do you view that, as salutary?@@sarahrobertson634
It’s interesting that this video came up for me today - just yesterday I was thinking that the idea of “trust Jesus or go to hell” is coercion. Thank for laying out the horrific things of the Bible so clearly. I appreciate you!
Hell, in biblespeak, is the five months that lead us up to the spring equinox. This is the five months/signs led by the scorpion (Scorpio) Rev 9.5.
Regarding obedience, the euthyphro dilemma comes up: “Is something good because God commands it, or does God only command good things?”
Yeah, as a Zoroastrian, I HATE divine command theory!
@@christophergibson7155 The Bible is ridiculously UNholy! ALL HAIL AHURA MAZDA!!!!!!
Option 1 means good is subjective and can change whenever.
Option 2 means there is a higher moral standard that a god is adhering to.
@@TheMilitantMazdakitewho is Ahura Mazda?
@@tonyxxdtfamous9581 The God of Zarathustra. Who values your Good Deeds, NOT your "faith." We take pride in the fact that our God allows nonbelievers into heaven, so long as they followed the threefold path.
I have also said that God gives free will, which allows us to disobey him. Then, if we do not repent, He punishes us forever. So, cutting out the middle idea, God gives us free will so that He can torture us. That doesn't make God look like such a nice guy.
Don't be afraid and don't REPENT. Bs bible god is very old now and can do no sh$$T. Only talks.
God never said he's a nice guy
God gives us what I call "a Mafia's ultimatum," which is by no means "free will"!
@@gontse1386 He does present Himself as an all loving, merciful God...which is deceiving.
@theresedavis2526 read the bible again, there's clearly 2 different entities, in the old testament it's mostly Yahweh/Jehova who does evil
The Father of Jesus is different, no human has ever seen or heard him, whoever Moses saw in the Old Testament it wasn't The Father
"the lord will take delight in bringing ruin upon you and destroying you." Ah... Very loving indeed. I can feel the love.
Can you feel the love tonight? 😅🙈😑
Taken out context....as usual....
@@BlankmanJ-5 so you're saying that the perfect word of a perfect being that is all loving and all knowing can be taken out of context?
What would be the context that would require a mere mortal like yourself has to defend?
You're making assertions without providing evidence as usual.
I always find it funny how Christians seem to be one who belittle their God the most. Like that he's incapable of doing so and so...
@EnhantedSaber Human beings have free will. Taking a verse of scripture without having the context in which it was stated is a dishonest, intellectual "statement" that goes against the standard of educational analysis in every source of scholarship or academics around the world.
@@BlankmanJ-5 again, context has not been explained. What is the context from a perfectly written book that this verse can be taken out of to sound as bad as it sounds that require a mere mortal to defend?
There was once a street preacher who told me I was taking a verse out of context only to follow up with: "what verse is it that you're talking about?"
Free will huh. Funny how a Christian can believe in free will. Like where does it say that in the Bible? Quite the contrary the Bible says that don't have free will.
You might argue these plagues are just punishment for sin, But a loving parent would never celebrate the torture and suffering of their children.
Yeah it’s more like we’re his toys. “Eh I don’t like how this batch is behaving, just kill ‘em all and start over” but I guess to an all powerful omnipotent being our lives are inconsequential.
@billbop9795 It's worse than that, Not only are we his toys, But he built the toy factory to his own specifications, And is still mad with the result.
Exactly!!!!
THANK YOU!!! This is how I feel!
It's not a 'celebration' (where did you get that idea?). It's a warning. Loving parents always warn their children.
During all the decades I spent in Church Culture, I have never considered any of that "relationship" as applying to me. After I got out of it, I saw the Gospel as "Love me or I will hurt you." Rather stark but that is what the teachings end up saying. It's a rather abusive relationship.
@@christophergibson7155 it's not an abusive relationship, you are free to do whatever you want, God has given you free will, he will not influence your will, so you could lie, steal and kill as much as you want God won't stop you. But you can't live your life as you want and still expect to enter heaven at the end of the day. You'll get quarantined in a place where people who do evil and make the world a terrible place get put in.
@@rubixio8014😢😢 i bet you have no idea what free will is
_I saw the Gospel as "Love me or I will hurt you."_
Clearly, you did not 'see the Gospel.'
@@rubixio8014 it’s not even about being evil and c’mon you know that, it’s only whether you believe in your god or not, or how much faith you have in your god you were brought up to believe, nobody’s going to want to go out and do horrible things, you can be an atheist and be a good person and you’ll still go to hell according to the belief, so it has nothing to do with going out and murdering and slaying people, it’s hypocritical anyway to read the Bible and see gods people do wicked things and kill and freely murder and it’s not wrong unless your a non believer.
@@craigsmith1443 In the NT "we" are commanded to love the Lord your God, get saves, and do as we are told. IF we don't love god as we are commanded, we will be sent to Hell for not being "saved". So, I say again, the Gospel boils down to "Love and serve God, or he will hurt you (in hell). Love God, get saved or don't get saved and go to Hell. It's very plain to see. I rest my case.
Some free choice. Someone holds a gun to your head and says 'You have a choice - give me all your money or get a bullet in the brain'. The apologist then says 'You had free will and chose to hand over the money, so the robber is not at fault'.
It's so ridiculous 😂😂😂😂
@@vadouis-rt3of The gun is analagous to the threats he gave to the Israelites according to Deuteronomy 28.
@@vadouis-rt3of "Does not Duet. 28 also lists the blessings that will come when the Lord is obeyed?" -
Certainly. So what? He still threatened the Israelites.
"Why would you not want to obey?" -
No matter what the answer is, Yahweh's punishment for the Israelites for not obeying is just cruel and not loving.
"Does the traffic laws of my city "hold a gun to my head" to obey the speed limit?" -
No, they don't. They threaten you with a fine which is far more humane than threatening you to starve you so much that you will eat your children's bodies.
@@vadouis-rt3of "I see that you don't think that the blessings for obeying God is excessive." -
Will a person who murdered and tortured someone not punished by law even if he did many good things for society like running a charity organisation for a good cause? The same with god: it doesn't matter how much good he does if he additionally does a lot of harm.
"The bottom line is that you hate God" -
I don't believe that the Biblical god exists. But I dislike the fictional character Yahwe, rightfully so.
"Well, when you get to be the Creator, then you can call the shots." -
Do you think might makes morally right?
"BTW, when you were a child and your parents punished you for being disobedient, did you not think they were being cruel to you?" -
I cannot recall what I thought. I doubt that I thought that they were cruel often. Since morality is subjective, I would put more emphasis on the fact that Yahwe doesn't fulfill his supposedly own definitions of good and love (see e. g. 1 Cor 13).
@@vadouis-rt3ofhas he done anything of similar note in this day and age?
In fact, is there literally any geological proof of the exodus? Or any of your claims for that matter? The last time I did in depth research, the theological claims lacked actual sufficient proof of the events (and even those that really should have left their mark of the earth. Like a massive human migration, which we have records of all around the world much earlier than the exodus.
What moral reason did god have to make pharaoh say no? He says it himself in exodus. “I will harden his heart so he will not let your people go” and he sent plague after plague and then did a little murder spree. Then he killed pharaoh and his army. Do you know what this implies? First of all-lack of free will. Second of all, it implies pharaoh was going to release the Israelites upon request from his brother had god not interfered at that point. Wouldn’t that have been a better, more amicable solution? Why were the teachings of Jesus so starkly contrasted to the actions of god?
Have you ever actually looked into how we got to todays Bible? Not as “unchanging” and “everlasting” as the word of god should be. Even from the beginning of its conception, it was passed between different sects and added to and subtracted from and new books were added then some were taken away long BEFORE the council of Nicaea. Since then? The perversion is unspeakable.
I remember some of the punishments I received from my incredibly god fearing mother, and I remember thinking they were cruel and unnecessary. And I still do. The harsh punishment came from a lack of understanding between us because “god” drove that wedge in. Might does NOT equal right. That way of thinking hurts people and lacks empathy. Why would you not want to care for and understand your hurting child?
Thank you for always finding time to post a new video. Your way of talking things out is always very comforting to me.
I appreciate your support!
Bs bible god loves seduction, r*pe, incest and you blindly follow whatever he says or does. Innit?
@@christophergibson7155 and from *_here_* _your_ comfort is a false peace. Now what?
@@christophergibson7155 i already have "true" inner peace. Also, he is ever so absent anyway, i'd rather trust only what has been shown to be reliable instead.
@@christophergibson7155i think your religion has lied to you, you just have to have faith in Jesus and confess your sins, sins, that being human and having what is natural and sins meaning a lot of petty and very stupid things such as not believing Jesus once existed, your Jesus is not righteous and doesn’t deserve any apologies because you shouldn’t have to apologize for being human and not believing.
"God is love..." - Every Christian ever
(....Terms and conditions apply.)
Knock knock on the door.
Who are you?
I'm god.
What do you want?
I want to come in.
Why?
To protect you.
From whom?
From me . . when I'm in.
Contracts have to be agreed to by both parties
Ahura Mazda loves you, period. (Unless you are rich, then they hate you for the immeasurable suffering you caused your fellow man and woman by exploiting the fruits of their labor, which, by the law of God, is theirs. Zarathustra teaches in his Gathas that the mumbling priests and princes will burn in hell forever, where they belong.)
LOL!
The ancients had as their motto "God is Love," and they drew a pen-picture of what they consider "love," in the letters IU, the two "love" organs, in all holy names, whether of IUpiter, IUno, IHUH, or IesU, which we mis-spell and mis-pronounce as Jupiter, Juno, Jehovah, and Jesus, instead of Yupiter, Yuno, Yehovah and Yesu. The English sound of J is unknown in any other important language. Jesus, like every sun god, in the bible, is both male (I) and female (U). The female symbol can be written as O, V, and U. Jove should be written as IOVE. IU Piter is the creator god throughout the bible. We should always be mindful that the entire bible is a Roman creation.
Also as a parent, I don’t ever expect my children to worship me, or wish them harm if they don’t listen to me. That’s just crazy. This break down is so spot on. Great job!
Of course your kids should not worship you, you are not God, and God wishes us only good, He is purely benevolent towards us, but He does chastise us just like an earthly father does when we mess up for our own good keep us from harm and lead us in the right direction.
@slamee100 you clearly didn't listen to video
@@chocolateprincess2656 Oh her mocking and denying of God are always abundantly on display.
@@chocolateprincess2656 Don't be duped by kristi or any other non believers. Read the Bible for yourself, pray to God for yourself, with no false religions or ignorant, misguided people in the way.
@@slamee100 I have lol
This was how I thought when I was muslim; that my life would be good. I made sure I prayed my salat, was a damn good wife, and when my dad talked his mess about me I sat and took it willingly, because he deserves my respect even though he's being very disrespectful to me. Right? Wrong.
I'm glad you broke free and I hope you are safe.
Good for you ❤
@sepulvedablvd7846 Three quotes are sufficient to show why Islam is a screwed-up pile of excrement.
Absolutely wrong. Any group, religious or cultural, that denigrates and devalues half of its entire membership is a group not worthy of respect or your continued affiliation with it. I echo others here who hope you are safe and well in your new status as a free woman.
It's coercion all the way through. Thank you, Kristi. It's so refreshing to see someone be honest out loud. 👏👏
It's 'Kristi' , but I'm with you; I love her gentle presentation.😊
@@CZH3982 Changed. Thanks
For a god that doesn't want a bunch of robots, he sure is hyper-focused on obedience.
@@smidlee7747, is she expecting you to torture, rape and kill her if she does? No, because that horrible behavior. So why is ok for a "all loving" god?
@@smidlee7747 , you can't have your cake and eat it too.
You can't equate YOU as being a god to your wife and then turn around and say you were talking about the god you follow to try to make a point. But we both know that's just a distraction.
Stay on topic. Why is an all loving god promising death and destruction?
And the worst thing you can do to an atheist is make threats about something you have no control over and can't even prove.
Why is there nothing funny about what you have to say ? @@cjgt77
@smidlee7747 your analogy breaks down really fast given I didn't choose to be born and subjected to your god's tyrannical laws
You sound like the last word in ungrateful spoilt children. @@EluviumMC
👏 More Bible study today with Kristi 🎉. More accurate information, more taking down insanity…getting my notebook!
Happy you're here! :)
The information she gives is not accurate.
Love your Bible studies,Kristi.
@@Justas399because she's not making up some convoluted theology to justify the murdering of children?
@@Justas399 How is that so? She's reading from the Bible.
It's funny to me to see how Khristi's soft-spoken, smart to the point demeanor cuts Christians like a knife. 😄
@@nickg5010 , going by the comments from Christians, oh indeed she does!
To be fair, the Christian religion is meant to divide, control and put down others, so the defence of the religion is ingrained in Christians.
I think Christians are bothered by the way she retorts the religion so effortlessly.
@@nickg5010Please, there is nothing to say to this. Either God is an evil, sadistic monster as described in Deuteronomy or he is manmade. No other possibility
@@nickg5010I've been following Kristi for 2yrs. Christians lose their shit everyday.
He works from within 'The Wisdom of God' so the point(s) He is trying to make can be obscure. I don't think He expects anyone to eat their own children ! @@Garroxta
@@nickg5010 A plain reading of the Scripture makes God out to be evil. If you want to play the interpretation game where you make the words say something they don't actually say, so that you can pretend the god of the Bible is something other than what the ancient people believed him to be (all to fit more modern sensibilities), then you can play that game. I will read the Bible plainly, however.
Nice work as usual, Kristi. Once again, we are reminded that for the Bronze Age authors of the Old Testament, logical coherence was not a priority here. It's all about their God being the best in everything, including the best in mercy and the best in punishing those who don't obey. You can't get all the possible "bests" under one logical tent, so discard the tent, seems to be the motto here.
Thank you. The way you present with kindness, empathy and rational thinking is priceless. You are appreciaated and loved by many.
Some of the most devout Christians I’ve met have suffered worse than people who are secular, so the fact that the Bible promises to take care of his believers and yet they still suffer the most shows that this god not only not real but that his promises are lies.
Agreed. It is interesting that, in the Old Testament, a major them is that God rewards the Israelites when they are faithful to him and punishes them when they are unfaithful, but in the New Testament, Jesus comes along and says that those who are faithful are supposed to suffer in this life so they can be rewarded in the next life. Those Christians you mention may say that they are "storing up treasures in heaven" (Matthew 6:20), or that their light and momentary sufferings are nothing compared to the eternal glory that awaits them (2 Corinthians 4:17). If we follow the Christian assumption that the OT and NT God is the same God, then why did he change his mind? Why is it now that his faithful must suffer, when in the past they were rewarded. Also, if Heaven is so important, then why did he only talk to the Israelites in terms of earthly punishments and rewards?
It makes me so sad when I point verses like these out to my Christian family members or peers and they just make excuses for them. Leaving the faith has been such an isolating experience.
The Old Testament is not about God's relationship with Christians, it's with his people.
@@halbleavy9900 gods people are Christian’s, so this makes no sense.
@@Lauriestrode1978 Are you sure?
@@Lauriestrode1978Actually God's people were the Israelites who happened to be Jewish at the time. Christians just identify as his people.
Me too
But right now i am a teen , and if i tell my family that i don't believe in their God i " choose death " 😂
So i think i should still be resilient to the abuse for a long time 🙂
Remember when God said " Thou shall not enslave others" Oh wait.....
@HeShallReign he's more than welcome to show himself
@HeShallReign Don't hold your breath
@HeShallReignYou sound like the Nazis and the British Empire, violent and thuggish. No surprise they were abrahamics
You know what's worse, Kristi? Whenever we dare "question" or speak out against things god does that are flat out immoral; apologists say that "we have a veil of confusion" also when we kindly tell people that we don't want to listen to "godly" music, aka gospel music, lol; they say "the demons inside of you are stirring" lolol.
Yup we're all just super confused and don't understand.
Why don't you want to listen to Gospel music?
Yes Hillsong songs are crap. That is something that everyone can agree on. 😂
Next time they play that type of music you should play All the monsters coming out by Celina Gomez. I just found out that the Jesus figure everyone was following and Kristi I bet will love this was some old popes son! Forget his name but you wouldn't believe the freaking lies they teach. And if you look up black pope and their oath let's just say you will never look at any of these religions the same again.
The only thing stirring is my IBS🤣
_You know what's worse, Kristi? Whenever we dare "question" or speak out against things god does that are flat out immoral_
You know what's worse, Ben? An adult taking a few people's mistakes and universalizing them without fact-checking them to pretend they represent an entire way of life.
You wouldn't say, 'All Native Americans walk in single file. At least the only one I ever saw did.' But you would do that with Christians.
This was so good, Kristi! These verses were never studied in depth and just kind of glossed over when I was a Christian. But these passages really put a spotlight on the evil nature of the god of the Bible!
Oh, but don't you know, all this is god's "justice." You can't have mercy without justice. Or so I heard.
@@johntiggleman4686 _You can't have mercy without justice. Or so I heard._
Try it. Let me know how it works out.
@@johntiggleman4686 your idea is justice is by killing and condemning all the non believers and that’s about it.
Cherry picked stuff from this book written by bronze age peasants
But we would not know what good and evil are if the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was not eaten.
What a absolute metal line by Jehovah
lol
Jehovah is actually IU Piter (Jupiter) the double-sexed god (IHOH).
Great you should be on TV all over the world.
@@christophergibson7155 Boy, does your imaginary friend have you on a short leash!
@@christophergibson7155 Could the leash get any tighter? Is it really that fun being brainwashed into a Jesus-freak?
@@christophergibson7155 You are the only one who's deceived. In fact you are so brainwashed that you can't provide any solid arguments to counteract what she says, because even though you know deep down she's right, you want to believe SOOOO badly that you put your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalalala" without any intention to refute anything she says. . Embrace critical thinking and logic and stop being so deluded.
“The beatings will continue until morale improves.” 😅
Oct. 7, 2023. 3:15 PM I have always noticed in Duet. 28 that the cursese were always longer than the blessings. To me that always puts things in the negative. A lot of people feel like they were forced into Christianity. When the get older they come out and get away from it.
The Cursings aka winter season of five months/signs aka the season of hunger, hardship, sickness, cold and wet weather, darkness, (non crop growth) is always hated. The cursed leader is the scorpion/Scorpio in Rev. 9.5. Scorpio is the lying tail in Isaiah 9.14-15.
But so maybe, is that He loved African slaves... or Spanish Jews, actively, a lot, of the time; Unconditionally, and with zeal?
Anyway - how is, your John 14:12, so far?
Deeds... healing... credentials?@@christophergibson7155
I would love for everyone to become a Christian, but I don't think we should force anyone into our faith (though unfortunately it does happen). Like you said, it just results in people leaving Christianity later on. We need to love people just as much if they reject our faith. People need to be supported to make up their own decisions about whether Jesus is truly the Son of God. Jesus wanted only the most committed followers; he never forced anyone to follow him. "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple" Luke 14:26, NIV. We usually don't take "hate" completely literally but Jesus definitely had high standards for his disciples.
And how do you take Romans 8:30?
Or - Revelations 13:8?
Plus, Colossians 1:16.
Who runs the rat's maze, here?
And knew all the outcomes.
Or ever cares what, one, deranged, angel, thought about, Job?
That said, I'd like John 14:12, to be literal.
Many in Africa, would benefit! Guess how.@@PolymorphicPenguin
You have to also consider the men who were intent on using these scriptures as control machanisims to keep the people in line.
I hit you because I love you.
-Abuser
Boy did my stepfather LOVE me!
So my parents " love " me this way ?
Holy cow. Girlfriend, you nailed it with this one. My goodness. You have a truly amazing way of putting things. Thank you.
Doesn't the mob do these things to people who go against the family?! Promise not to hurt people who pay them? Isn't that horrible?!
Indeed. But god's ways are higher...or something...
Pretty sure the Bible is what inspired that mob lifestyle..as well as every other sick practice.
Our Pablo Escobar who art in heaven...
@@okanudobassey9741 LMAO.....exactly right
The leader of the mob is titled GODFATHER. Let that sink in.
In Job. God allows Satan too beset woe on Job, thereby by-passing his own guilt in causing Job's suffering. Here God is taking the active role in the devastation he is raining upon his disobedient "children". Even Satan didn't resort to canibilism. Great vid as allways!
Satan standing back with a beer in his hand going "WHOA......WTF YAHWEH ??? ......Give 'em a damn break, dude......."
First of all the Bible says that nothing which is Holy can ever enter heaven then what was Satan doing in front of God "in heaven" ...how did he get in 😅
I’m 3 minutes in and I can tell you that in my nearly 30 years as a Christian, none of that has happened for me. It breaks my heart. I believed in those words!
But this was for Israel under the
Mosaic covenant, meaning Christians were never under this covenant.
I'm 2yrs out. It gets much easier.. Sending you love 💜✨
@@RandomGuy-sn3ne christians are not part of the new covenant either it’s only for his people the Israelites.
@RandomGuy-sn3ne why did there even have to be a new covenant? I thought god never changed and his word everlasting?
@@arioutlawyou got a point
Whoa 😨, who the Heck wants that kind of relationship with anyone even if it is a God 😢 No Way 🙅♀️
What an eye opening video Kristi, thank you so very much for your hard work just sharing what we may have just missed or didn’t want to know about the God we once served 😅😮.
A lot of people who watch 1950s sitcoms do.
@@christophergibson7155 And the god that you can't prove, can you?
@@christophergibson7155 quit being an apologist for the horrible and evil things written in the bible that the Lord commands and endorses.
@@christophergibson7155 Do you seriously want me to list all of the atrocities that the Lord commanded in the Old Testament and tell me that he's Just and Loving? Seriously? Your beliefs are incredibly sick and twisted if you believe that.
Thank you again, Kristi, for another excellent logical deconstruction. Your videos are very important to me, as I am still deconstructing the decades of brainwashing from my years in various Christian churches, both mainstream denominations and a cult.
I would never treat my children, who I love, how God says he will treat “his children.” I believe in tough love after all other methods have failed if your child gets into addiction or self destructive behavior. But never ever ever would I curse my kids and delight in their suffering! I love your channel and I hope it grows quickly because you have a lot of good things to say! Thank you!
I don't think there has been any parents who haven't cursed their children. I don't have any myself, mind you.
@@visamanDon't talk about things YOU have NO experience with. I have NEVER cursed my kids.
@@madeirafonseca6383 then I congratulate you! 👏
@@christophergibson7155Actually, it was YOU that missed something: Jer. 31:9 "They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. " It's actually your Jesus that's a liar - not to mention a fake-god-on-a-stick.
So many ppl forget God is SPIRIT
But u are MAN
U are his children thru ADOPTION
Only thru believing in his son - and being born of the spirit - are u a son/daughter of God
The carnal mind is the EMNITY OF GOD
The FLESH can NEVER plz him!
He sent his son to die for your sins because without that, man would never see eternity!!
Idk why ppl can't comprehend that, this life is just a short moment of time!!! A Kodak moment
It's the next life that is eternal
And if u do not obey and love the one who gave u life - he WILL take it back!
HE GAVE HIS SON - TO SAVE YOUR LIFE
What have YOU ever given him in return
After a long week of current events, esp politicians, it was nice to hear you being RATIONAL.
That is so perfectly said....
Irrational and illogical. She's an atheist. There is no wrong or right except in her limited subjective mind. There are people who can justify anything. Who's to say if they're right or wrong without a higher moral authority? You, her, me? Which subjective opinion is the right one? YUP! REAL RATIONAL!
I was using the word "rational" In a way that could be used in a sentence describing good and healthy mental health as opposed to, in one's head (perhaps yours, perhaps not, creating religion from ignorance), practicing a deluded belief in supernatural superstition. There is a support group for you somewhere, don't stop looking.@@davidkoury7097
Kristi this sounds like the most one-sided prenuptial agreement ever written. I'll take my chances and just keep doing what I'm doing until I meet God face to face. Thanks for another great video, I appreciate the time and effort that you put into each topic and video. Big hug from Rienzi Mississippi 😎
Thanks for the support :)
Todd! Like she said, apalogists will always find ways to excuse their god! Take your chances? What chances are those?
And if you ever do meet this deity face to face and he asks you about your sins, tell it "nothing I have done in my life even remotely compares to the atrocities that you have done! How dare you judge me!
@@j.whisper2379Many chances including ignoring the runaway "paper tiger" completely and using his "holey" book to light BBQ fire.
Wanna meet runaway sky dude? Then you're "Waiting for Godot."
Let me pretend I'm still a Christian and scream "out of context! Out of context!"😂😂
ikr
Me: *Quotes a bible verse*
Bro: Out of context!
Bro: makes a statement about the bible or God
Me: That's not in the Bible
Bro: Yes it is
Me: What verse is it?
bro: idk but I know it's there
The Bible also describes this curse hundreds of years later:
She said, “This woman said to me, ‘Give up your son, and we will eat him today. Then we will eat my son tomorrow.’ So we boiled my son and ate him, and I said to her the next day, ‘Give up your son, and we will eat him,’ but she has hidden her son.” (2 Kings 6:28b-29)
During the Aramean siege an extreme famine led to this. Who is to blame? Is it God, Israelite disobedience, the women's actions, or the besieging Arameans? By the next chapter, Elisha predicts relief, and with the Arameans' departure, food becomes abundant.
Witchcraft. Or that's how Christians would try to label that if it happened today.
Oookay.
@@craigsmith1443 You sound identical to my brother
@@DinosaurNick _You sound identical to my brother_
Lucky fellow. Now you know two people who are smarter than you are.
@@craigsmith1443 Yeah. I know two idiots. The "ooookay" is a sign of not understanding what you just heard/saw/read
My brother says "ooookay" everytime something goes over his head.
Looking forward to what will be undoubtedly another excellent video from Kristi.
BAM! My new favorite video!! To me this puts everyone in the shut-up room!! I started questioning my faith a few years ago and also thought, is this really free will?..Soooo my options for not going to hell is obedience or torture?? I believe most people become believers because of being threatened with hell🔥🔥, I know I was! Fantastic job Kristi!!
I'm realizing that, even though I didn't take that literally -- didn't grow up in a hellfire church, more an intellectual one (attached to a seminary)-- I still have adopted that attitude. It's a ore subtle version: if I don't conform to what (god-fearing) society tells me to do, I deserve to suffer. If I conform, I also suffer. Lose-lose!
WTF..You should know and not believe..a believer is a person that still carry that doubt..He will say i know you not..& into the lake of fire you go
Oh I agree with christians that we need salvation from god. As in, for someone to save us from him.
@@christophergibson7155 if I am a sinner, who is the victim?
THE WORLD RULER TRIES TO KILL ME
And then a voice of the world ruler came to the angels: “I am god and there is no other god but me.” But I laughed joyfully when I examined his conceit. But he went on to say, “Who is the human?”
And the entire host of his angels who had seen Adam and his dwelling were laughing at his smallness. And thus did their thought come to be removed outside the majesty of the heavens, away from the human of truth, whose name they saw, since he is in a small dwelling place. They are foolish and senseless in their empty thought, namely, their laughter, and it was contagion for them.
The whole greatness of the fatherhood of the spirit was at rest in its places. And I was with him, since I have a thought of a single emanation from the eternal ones and the unknowable ones, undefiled and immeasurable. I placed the small thought in the world, having disturbed them and frightened the whole multitude of the angels and their ruler. And I was visiting them all with fire and flame because of my thought.
And everything pertaining to them was brought about because of me. And there came about a disturbance and a fight around the seraphim and cherubim, since their glory will fade, and there was confusion around Adonaios on both sides and around their dwelling, up to the world ruler and the one who said, “Let us seize him.” Others again said, “The plan will certainly not materialize.” For Adonaios knows me because of hope. And I was in the mouths of lions. And as for the plan that they devised about me to release their error and their senselessness, I did not succumb to them as they had planned. And I was not afflicted at all.
Those who were there punished me, yet I did not die in reality but in appearance, in order that I not be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk. I removed the shame from me, and I did not become fainthearted in the face of what happened to me at their hands. I was about to succumb to fear, and I suffered merely according to their sight and thought so that no word might ever be found to speak about them.
For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. Their thoughts did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me.
It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the rulers and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.
@@christophergibson7155 So I am committing crimes...against myself?
@@christophergibson7155 So god is a victim?
Definitely. Chose to hide - shy, thin-skinned... pompous, quick to anger... neglects many of His children, it seems...
I recommend alimony lawyers.
But yeah, apparently snubbing Him on sabbaths or over Jericho loot was always more important to Him, than the messy loose ends He left all over Christian Europe, and before. Or the indolence of guiding senior Christa-buddies.
Of course, I'm sure Gibson can prove us wrong - if he really digs deep.
Or fulfils, John 14:12... maybe!@@rageofheaven
Kristi, I am subscribed to many channels, but yours is the only one of which I’ve turned on the bell. Thank you for everything you do. This is such a critical chapter for people with a working moral compass.
I remember being in the car with my mom and my brother one time and I asked them what they thought about God commanding people to eat their children. They immediately said, “What?! It doesn’t say that.. absolutely not” I pulled up the verse on my phone, handed it to my brother, he began reading with confidence, and I will never forget the look on his face and the stutter in his voice when he got to verse 53. My mom was equally appalled.
I remember also being shocked at how God commanded/endorsed the consumption of one’s children in 4 additional places in the Bible:
Leviticus 26:29 (a less detailed version of the curses in Deuteronomy)
Ezekiel 5:8-10 (the punishment in action)
Jeremiah 19:9 (and again)
2 Kings 6:28-29 (God waited until women ate their children before giving them food the next day)
Lamentations 4:10-11 (God made people eat their children as a means of payback-see the end of chapter 3)
@@christophergibson7155 God says that since I have kissed a man as a man that the entire village should bury me up to my neck and throw stones at my face breaking every bone in my skull until eventually the physical trauma against my brain causes me to have a seizure ultimately killing me and leaving my body to decompose in the town square. Exactly what part of that is justice?
@@christophergibson7155 There is absolutely no context for a loving God to rightfully command cannibalism-let alone that of one’s own children. The context of the passage only make the implications worse for the image of God, and it is bold of you to assume that I have not read it.
@@christophergibson7155 Whatever word you’d like to use-God willed cannibalism to happen if the Israelites disobeyed him-and he delighted in it. And that is atrocious. Period.
Please remind this numb-nuts, that Jovey picked these people, fully knowing what they were like, way ahead of time.
If He wished to be happy too, He knew that was an unlikely outcome.
Wonder if He regretted bribing them? With things like Leviticus 25...@@ChickenSaysBak
@@christophergibson7155Can’t wait to see you Christians cry when Israel is wiped from the map.
Being a crime victim myself, this has kept me from sleeping well and has my mind crazy.
I had been questioning and that's how I found you. My life for the past 3 years has been all about Christ. My circle of friends I depend on, to the decor in my home. My life has been centered on God.
But this I was unaware of and now I'm not turning back, I can't support this book. I wonder how much I'll lose. I feel like I found secrets out about a person I was deeply in love with really is a MONSTER!!!
this has triggered so much in me
Same here...
Keep going, you are on the right track! It may be scary at first but you’ll find joy and comfort outside of Christians and Christianity. I did it and truly love my life. ❤
Nothing is more freeing than leaving that toxic life behind you. Trust me, there's nothing more freeing; I promise you.
@@louisndalameta3018 I think it gave me PTSD, I still haven't said anything to my church yet. Thank you for replying
@@AdventurousGeek how long did it take you to enjoy your new found freedom? And thank you for your reply
You are a voice of reason Kristi. Keep up the good work!
Amen to that!
Amen or should i say woman love this woman .😍😍😍😍😍😍
No wonder the angels rebelled against God. Could you imagine putting up with a megalomaniac for eternity? Even heaven would be hell under those conditions.
One of the best long cons yet!!! You can do everything right and still get tortured by God, ask Job
Exactly !
You speak with great reason and clarity!
@christophergibson7155
Those brainwashed by fundamentalist Christian teaching have no need for logic and reason.
Believe without question even though it's utterly absurd - that's what they teach.
@@christophergibson7155 Sorry but I did all the Jesus stuff years ago. Thankfully I've since seen the light of reason, so I'm immune to all the preaching.
Peace!😊
@@christophergibson7155 I bet you also justify the lord commanding the death of children like he does in the old testament....... - sicko.
Kristi, I haven’t taken the time to become familiar with the Old Testament, so your presentation of this material was interesting and useful. It doesn’t change my beliefs or behavior because whatever concept I have of a “god” is so radically different from the Hebrew understanding. It’s useful in trying to grasp what the people of this faith accept. One needs to keep in mind the fact that “god” is not demanding this acquiescence and worship. It’s the spiritual and political leaders of this religion that are utilizing the reward and punishment game to control the people through fear. This was the most effective method of keeping the people in line. The key ingredient is the personification of god. People can only comprehend a god that reasons and behaves in the same manner as a human. That results in a very small and petty conception of god. These ideas were conceived at a time when earthquakes, volcanoes and the weather were considered “acts of god”. It’s sad to realize that there are still millions of people who believe in a god of this nature.
Thanks Kristi for sharing your insights. I hope we will eventually be able to get rid of christian and other religious hypocrisy. It will be a better world for all people.❤
Your videos are consistently outstanding in both content and style. Thanks for the time and effort that you put into them.
Kristi - with her thoughtful & insightful sharing of the process of deconstruction - is offering Christians a guide to the path of finding out the truth behind the lies, providing the opportunity to forever change their perception of reality.
Well, no. Those who know the Bible can see where she goes rather wildly wrong, which always happens with bias confirmation research.
Amazing it's so nice to see true logic articulated!!!
If God is all knowing. Then why would he create people that make him angry and miserable? He sounds like he's as miserable as the people he sends to Hell.
Good one bro
If we heard a parent, or parents, tell their kids that if their good, they will buy them an ice cream if their good, BUT if they aren't, they will beat them until they bleed, sleep on the floor without any blankets or pillows, take everything of theirs away, and let the bugs bite them at night; 100% of us would be automatically calling Child Protective Service.
100% of us would be absolutely horrified, and would want to take that kid home with us.
WHY?
Because we have higher moral values and standards than the old testament god.
But because rhis is in a religious environment, I'd have to say with 100% certainty, that this is how Satan rules his world. (kingdoms)
It truly saddens me to look back during my 20+ years in the ministry, and actually condone this; saying in my heart, "that's what they get for disobedience".
That Was A Truly Evil Heart, and I'm still ashamed of myself for it, even 6 years later after leaving it behind. 😔
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PS;
You do amazing work Ma'am! 🤗
@@christophergibson7155
Let me clear something.
I was was not talking about having the mindset of beating my children; I was referring to the content in the video. I should had made that clear. 😊
2, you assumed I left my "love for jesus". Your Christianity is not rule, nor dominion, and your book God is a bipolar, beneficent tyrant of the ancient near east.
Have you ever read the Satanic Bible?
Sure you have, it's called the Old Testiment. A clear depiction of how Satan/Lucifer rules his kingdom.
People with sever cognitive dissonance will say, "The greatest trick satan has ever done, wS convince the world he doesnt exist" 🤣🤣🤣
Satan's greatest trick is convincing the world he is God!
I didn't loose my love for Christ. I closed the door to antichrist teachings, and there is no greater testiment for Satan than the antichrist apostle Pauline church.
That's Where I Stand! 🤗
@@christophergibson7155 you're not even touching the matter by saying that. Sorry..
Deuteronomy 13:6 to 11 cracked my heart definitely, especially verse 9! It was the biggest 🚩 as a Christian, this book believer! The Christian org I was in had the nerve to show a Bible drama about this passage and had taught us to SHUN your family who leaves, no matter what😮😢
Love thy neighbor, but as for your neighboring nations, those gotta go.
You're our Hero Kristi. You're the true Jesus.
Funny statement, but...sure (there really CAN be worse ! (shrug)
I recall having preached a sermon on this text in my Christian days. Wish I knew then what I know now.
So you never actually received the Holy spirit..
@@nick8945 Schucks, so many Christians presume to know exactly what goes on in my own heart and how that translates into where my spiritual life supposedly went wrong. Fact is: only I (and God, if you insist) know what the true intentions of my heart are. I was radically saved and gave my life to Jesus in October 1989. Nobody has the necessary insight into my heart to say that my conversion was not true. In accordance with the Bible this conversion would not have been possible without the working of the holy spirit. So hopefully this answers your question. It's just that, over years, the words in this god-book were repeatedly being proven to be seriously at odds with what nature was showing us.
@@andriebester believe or not, you've given a far clearer answer than *anyone* else who I've asked that question to! But to follow up; so you once held the bible as your ultimate authority (as all Christians should do), but somehow, you reasoned out of that, not using the bible.?
So what did your sermon on this text say?
@@spaceman081447 Oh this happened waaaay back when the Dead sea was still sick. I honestly can't exactly remember all the details. I did read with the congregation through all the blessings and all the curses (for dramatic effect). I probably would have said something to the effect that, if the blessings are so rich and abundant, and the curses are so devastating, why would anyone choose for the curses.
thankyou for always making it so clear and easy to see how abusive this is. I am beginning to understand why there is so much mental illness in society. how could there not be with this kind of indoctrination and cognitive dissonance.
The Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death
is really impossible for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, all kinds of Religions simply because
Atheists, Christians, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW
and are fully aware that they don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings.
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world KNOW
and are fully aware that they are the Creator's cruel, fierce, merciless, and deceitful enemies on earth
who
are hurt, wounded, offended, and angered but can do nothing but face the TRUTH
that
all persons on earth who submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25. 26
are clearly
the loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator on earth
who
are definitely bringing upon themselves the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful earth without liars, deceivers, slanderers, traitors, perverts, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8.
All persons on earth on earth who believe and preach the lies and false teachings of the anti-Christs about "immortality of the souls or the heaven and hellfire doctrine", "rapture", "Armageddon", "Trinity", and "reincarnation" KNOW
and are fully aware that they are Satan the Devil's slaves on earth
who
are hurt, offended, wounded, and angered but can do nothing but face the TRUTH
that
human beings have no immortal souls and just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6
but
loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's disciples and followers, and many others will not remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead,
in the right and proper time and as written in John 11: 25, 26,
the Creator will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The worse part of these passages is knowing that all of these horrible curses actually came true anyway despite the Jewish people obeying the commandments faithfully. Subjugation and enslavement by the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans is detailed in the Bible itself. Then compound that with all of the horrible events that happened in the Diaspora, the Middle Ages, the Holocaust. If you take Deuteronomy seriously, the believers themselves are to blame for all of it. Not their religious and political leaders' failures in judgement and character. Not their enemies' violence, ruthlessness and avarice. Every bad thing that has ever happened to God's chosen people is a direct consequence of their personal failures, even if they never enjoyed personal autonomy themselves because they followed a king or some lunatic cult leader, or were submissive to their husbands, or were literal slaves to some occupying power. This book gives God, his priesthood and his anointed kings plausible deniability no matter what disasters and outrages were committed against the Jewish people. Deuteronomy is disgusting and I wish everyone, believers included, would bracket this book from the rest of the world's literature and admit that this book never had positive value for anyone of any time. Pre-emptive victim blaming is a scam and we don't have to fall for it anymore.
This book was written during the Babylonian captivity.
You're wrong. They disobeyed multiple times and were punished multiple times.
@@Lerian_V The only witnesses against Israel's unbelief is the authors of the Bible itself and they had every motive to lie. God apparently doesn't punish people for slandering corpses. The Bible promised the Israelites that if they slaughtered and enslaved all of the unbelieving pagans in the land of Canaan, they would be safe in that land flowing with milk and honey. The Canaanites were not accused of not worshipping their gods sufficiently. They were accused of placing their faith in idols that had no power to save them. False nonexistent gods. Israel and Judah are subsequently conquered and enslaved by different groups of unbelieving pagans. How is that possible? Obviously God had no power to protect them. Obviously he was a false god. A god who punishes his believers by handing them over to pagans who worship false gods is such a weak, vindictive, pathetic god. That the Jewish people did not give up their beliefs even when they were conquered and enslaved is how I know the Bible is lying about them. They were not faithless unbelievers. Their faith was and is simply misplaced.
Because HELLO those are NOT the real Israelites!!
“I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
Revelation 2:9
"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."
Revelation 3:9
Sprinkled with humor. Very light take. Entertaining. Educational.
Yeah I had a few laughs at the interpretations myself.
The Ten Commandments were not originally called commandments. That concept appeared first in the KJV of the Bible, in 1611. They were known before as the Ten Words, or Ten Utterances. So what was the agenda of King James I of England? Hmmmmm. Control of the populace, maybe?
The word translated as "church" in the KJV literally means something like "called together" or "meeting for a purpose." James specifically told the translators to keep the word "church," meaning "Church of England," of which he was the head.
Oh boy. I barely made it through Deuteronomy 22 and thought it could only get better from here....
Deuteronomy 32, is where you will find the talking phallus (rock that begat thee).
WOW, what a loving God, Yeah right. The Bible- God's word, boy are we in trouble,
Thank you for bringing this to light.
So, 'do what I say and no one gets hurt?' Sounds like a mafia boss.
Keep on keeping on. Your work is excellent. Please don't let silly people on other forums side track you. Well not too much anyway.
This is so true! My students don’t always obey my rules, but I want them to go and find a different way of getting what they need if they don’t use the lessins I teach them
I am a most esteemed school teacher of great wisdom and here's what I would do: when you students are disobedient, have some sharp pins in your pocket that you quickly whip out and stick under their naughty fingernails. They will THEN obey your every command pronto!
Fantastic!! As a PK, I know a lot about the Bible, but I don't think I have ever taken note of these verses. Thank you!!
I would like to know how you handled the Christmas holiday. I am not a Christian anymore but I always had a Christmas dinner for my family. I reminded them that "Jesus is the reason for this season". I don't believe it anymore. I'm a bit confused on how to brake it to them. I love your videos, they are so eye opening and help me so much. Thank you💞
No need to break the news, bro.. just sit back, enjoy Christmas and all it offers..
@@dylanmemoOr ignore it,it will go away quickly in a few days….
I'm reminded of an "In Living Color" spoof of long TV commercials for musical albums. It had Jim Carrey as an Arabic pop singer. One of the parody song titles in the track list scrolling on screen was "Love Me Tender or Die Slowly."
It's basically "It's your choice to love me, but if you don't I'll kill you."
Its ironic that a person's decision to study the Bible and strengthen faith is often the very thing that ultimately destroys it. If God is real, he has to know whether your faith is sincere. For this reason, I think its more honorable not to pretend I believe.
double irony is that is in the bible
Kristi, I notice one person disparages the idea that "it's all about context," but I think the context is really complicated. Here, to me, is one of the most important statements in the Bible. In Job 42:7 God says to Job's "comforters": “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has." Now, as some scholars have pointed out, this is an ambiguous statement. When did Job speak rightly? They have argued that this is an intentional ambiguity. That the Book of Job is a veiled critique of what is sometimes called "Deuteronomic Theology." Your success and happiness in life are determined by how well you follow God's law. When Job was written, thoughtful Jews knew that wasn't really true. There was a lot of undeserved suffering.
Another thing in the Bible that is really notable is the story of Josiah in Kings and Chronicles. This was pointed out by the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber. To put it in context, you have to think about what those books say about Hezekiah, another king a bit earlier. It says "Because Hezekiah followed God's law faithfully, he was successful in everything he did." Kings and Chronicles say Josiah followed the law faithfully, too, but he was defeated and killed in battle by an Egyptian Pharaoh. How come? In Chronicles, the writer tries to reconcile it with the Deuteronomic theology. 35:21-23 says that the Pharaoh sent a message saying God had called him to go to battle, and Josiah was opposing God! II Kings 23 treats it as just a tragedy, not some kind of punishment from God. The Kings account seems much more truthful, and Job showed a realization of this.
Now, bear with me, I think there is a little more to say about this. Christianity has an additional problem: it doesn’t have what you could call “case law.” In other words, it doesn’t have the body of commentary and dialogue about ethical things that you see in the Talmud or in Islamic jurisprudence. Protestantism particularly opposes anything like that. Everything is supposed to be settled by what the Bible says. But sometimes the Bible contradicts itself. This might not be completely unique to Christianity, though. I understand there is a strand of Judaism called Karaism that also says every Jew must just read the Torah for him/herself and figure out what God wants. That can be pretty hard.
An example of how this plays out in Christianity now is a dispute between what is called “Lordship Salvation” and “Easy Believism.” Lordship Salvation means that if you are a Christian, Christ must be your Lord. You must become more like him in behavior. Easy Believism means if you just say the “sinner’s prayer” and decide to believe in Christianity, you are going to heaven. It doesn’t demand any change in the way you live. I saw a video by an Easy Believism adherent who said Lordship Salvation is too hard and that she’s known people who committed suicide because they couldn’t be as good as Christ. This shows that Christians are not doing a very good job of thinking about how people really need to live. We as humans are active beings; we need to be able to feel good about things we do. It isn’t enough just to subscribe to a set of doctrines. I also suspect that Easy Believism shows a certain deterioration in Evangelical Christianity. When you see that Donald Trump is now considered some sort of “Christian” leader, that suggests that a lot of Evangelicals have decided not to demand any evidence of good character. Now, this is not to say that Trump couldn’t be a Christian; but to be one, he would have to say “I used to do bad things; I have now turned away from them.”
Really enjoyed this. However, why do so many deconstructionists sound like they still believe in a God, and they're just really disappointed in Him. Only people could come up with all of this, because it generally plays right into our most basic fears.
Well, it is the ' If this WERE true, then...' ; it IS a fair stance to assume
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@@andrewisble3963 I answered your question; 'why do so many deconstruct...?' ONE, they did believe at one time, so thestance is : speak 'as if' (as if, the Christian fantasy were true') this is a fair and non-threatening stance to have; ...I'm not sure what more you want. That was deconstructing is: So let's say the Tooth Fairy exists: so, she comes in and leaves a buck or two for your teeth, then how, why, etc...? Same for any alien abduction fantasies, why, how, etc...basic premise.
Great work you doing, keep it up!
With God the term cooersive control springs to mind.
Deuteronomy 28 is exactly what I tell my children (you know, the ones I love, since I’m a loving father).
Thank you so much for OPENING my eyes. I mean wow just wow, I can’t even hardly believe that’s really in the Bible. I have to say there is a lot of cruel stuff In the Bible BUT THIS TOPS THEM ALL. I can’t even describe how horrific and horrible and cruel of Jesus Christ to even consider such a horrible thing to be done even if it is a punishment.
I have seen so many people in my life, who have blown off church, God, Scriptures, and done what they please and they have enjoyed success while the rest of us who have tried to live up to what God taught us have struggled, suffered disease, had children who do everything like they are Satins Spawn. Devoted Christians dying after years of Alzheimer's, or laying in a hospital rotting slowly away with cancer.
Cause YHWH Is Satan Jesus’s god was never in the picture
I always wonder. What with those millions of people who have never heard, couldn't have known of this god? Were they also punished like that?
The pastor of my church always said yes, and that was their motive behind missionary work-to reach as many people with the gospel as possible to prevent that. It’s a feature of the religion to spread itself faster and further. If people that never knew of Yahweh automatically went to heaven, then there would be less motive to spread the toxic religion to everyone.
@@ChickenSaysBak and they never stopped to think *_why_* would that be needed... The bible is said to have been inspired/dictated/written/etc by him, but somehow he got bored of that and never did it for anyone else?! 🙄
Seems like it really is a Douglas Adams said, if he ever provided a perfect proof (like say two different versions of the bible written independently on different continents, but that match perfectly), then he'd immediately go out in a puff of logic. ^^
But, you are taking it out of context...
But, that's old Testiment...
But, God works in Mysterious ways...😅
Yep, that about covers it! lol
I really like the "that's the old Testament" one. That's literally the God you are praying to. If you don't like the Old Testament there is a huge disconnect between the God you are praying to and the God you think you are praying to.
So love and obey God. Or he will destroy your life and the lives of your descendants and everything you love. And will delight in doing so. And yet Satan is called the "Evil One". And isn't it interesting that God demand absolute worship and devotion. Yet nowhere is it written that the one called "Devil" demands absolute worship.
11:00 Thinking back on my deconstruction/deconversion, I do remember that the awful stuff in the Bible was part of it. There was so much more awful stuff in there than I remembered, though!
@@christophergibson7155 what an absurd and funny comment.
First, I don’t need a god or “savior.”
Second, those 10 Commandments are pretty pathetic, as moral guidelines go. There are far better ones.
Third, if the “god” who wrote Deuteronomy 28 is real, that god is a monster undeserving of worship.
@@christophergibson7155 oh yeah, and fourth: I live a far more righteous, just, compassionate, empathetic, loving, and decent life as an atheist, than vast numbers of Christians, who loudly proclaim their holiness in god & Jesus.
Miss me with that shit unless you know me personally, bro.
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Jesus is properly written as IesU the double-sexed sun god who comes in the flesh (es). The I is the phallus and the U is the receiver of the phallus. Certainly Jesus is both male and female as there cannot be a creation without the two.
@@christophergibson7155 all of that is baseless threats of a future you claim has been revealed to you. No different than all those other claims by believers in other gods that have exactly the same you have. Why should anyone renounce reason to accept a childish fantasy of a supernatural afterlife? o.O
@@christophergibson7155 nah. Been there, done that, threw away the cross and the t-shirt, and chose reason, empathy, and humanity instead. You can keep your cruel, capricious, abusive, narcissistic deity. Well, you could - if it existed. But it doesn’t.
Great video as always ❤
Every believer: "Our god is a loving and forgiving god." From anyone who has actually read the bible: "Uhhhh...no. What he clearly is would be a petty, vindictive, narcissistic, insecure, jealous, genocidal, misogynistic psychopath." Why would a loving god need to make endless threats to insure obedience and worship? Because clearly this one actually doesn't deserve any of it.
Slave owners give free will to their slaves. Choose to obey or I whip you within an inch of your life. Your choice. Real choice is saying do it if you want. I think the whole mindset for creating God was to use it to scare the free and slave alike into doing the will of the ruling class. Fear is a great motivation.
Do you know about the slaves bible?
Someone please declare an international emergency 'cause lying Christopath is a serious threat to mental health.
@@undrwatropium3724 no
@@christophergibson7155 you realize she is reading your God's word right? You are the blind one.
@@christophergibson7155 God writes a book telling us how righteous he is while also detailing all the many ways which he is not.
And that's the Bible for you.
Is someone that delight's in inflicting suffering or in punishing others good or evil?
Evil, definitely.
Hello, I am from Japan！
(※ I’m sorry for the wall of text.)
I came across your video a while ago and have been watching it, but this is my first comment.
I am a Christian and a graduate student in a theology department. On the other hand, I started doubting about the goodness of God about 5 years ago and it has not been resolved yet.
As such, the "problem of evil" is one of the issues I need to tackle.
School bullying, suicide, accidents, cancer, and all other misfortunes. Why God does not stop these things, I do not know. Obviously, isn't this evidence enough to say that God is not creating an environment in which all human beings can exercise their free will to the fullest?
(Especially in Japan, where suicide by bullying has become a major problem, and it pains my heart.)
I am even angry at the Church's optimistic attitude toward these current situations, using free will theory to dismiss the problem.
Perhaps God is not good in the first place. Religious beliefs based on forgiveness not only further complicate the relationship with the Old Testament, but have even raised the suspicion that New Testament is not a religion designed to bring comfort to the weak, but to bring grace to the very wicked.
(Morally the worst book ever written.)
I am currently working on my master's thesis on theodicy, and I possess multiple other grounds on which free will is not given, both from a grammatical standpoint and for philosophical reasons.
Above all, I am happy to have met you through CZcams.
I hope to be able to apply it and use it in learning much from you in the future.
Please keep up the good work.
From a small little lost Christian in Japan. Sorry if my English is wrong.
P.S.: I am impressed by your elegant way of using language, your clear analogies, and your simplified way of composing parables. I would like to practice deconstruction in the same elegant way as you do.
If you don't mind, I would be glad if you could share with me some references that have taught you a great deal. I will do my best to study them！
You don't know the Bible, you're a Japanese you're not gonna be saved.
Jesus was God,he came and preached in Israel not Japan,he came for the lost sheeps,the Israelites that were scattered all throughout the world during the Assyrians and Babylon captivity even in First century.
In the OT God was dealing with only Israel.(read Psalms 147:19-20)
The new testament was made only with the house of Israel or blood descendants of Jacob.
Read Hebrew 8:8.
Now what will happen to the gentile, how would God deal with them ?
Read Isaiah 14...
God was dealing only with the family of Jacob and God doesn't change.
God never changes from OT to the new
Malachi 3:6.
@@jianthit’s time to take your meds bud ❤
Thank you for sharing. You may enjoy... Sinners in the hands of a loving God... Brian Zahnd.
Gods word, Gods actions, who can fathom His decisions. We are quick to blame Him because we just don't understand the big picture. We are happy to receive good things...but we don't like the harsh discipline. Jesus gave hope for all, the Jewish person and the non Jew (gentile). Wonderful counsellor is He.
@@jadedoe9966 ? Was there anything wrong in what I said.?
I guess not.
I love your videos you are a very smart woman
Even Stephen King would not be able to imagine all these horrors for a fictional character! Since this crap wasn't actually "written" by "God", which authors were responsible for this section and who were they directing these rules and punishments toward, in order to control them?
Probably a large number of people who rightly disrespected a bunch of filthy old religious fanatics trying to hard-sell their phallic supremacy god using fairytales, deceptions, and coercion.
I thought the same thing. But at least Stephen King could’ve written a better story than all those anonymous Bronze Age goat herders.
Can we just admit that this document is a Bronze Age nationalistic treatise, a declaration of dominance and superiority of a people and a cautionary that members best not mess up?
The events described are from the Bronze Age, but the story in its final form is from the Iron Age / Antiquity.
You should do a video about the stoning of a rebellious son in Deuteronomy 21:18-21, the mental gymnastics that Christian apologists use to justify that one are enough to put Livvy Dunne to shame.
Blessings = summer season of crops (children) and a fully belly. Cursings = winter season of hardship and an empty belly. We see this in the fable of the two gods/angels (Jupiter and Hermes) who visit Lot and his Wife at Sodom (first winter sign/Scorpio) and they are the only ones to offer hospitality.
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I completely agree. The bible is all fables and lies.
Wasn't it Trent Horn ho was asked if he would do that, and he said yes he would because it's in god's word so it's automatically right. (facepalm)
@@christophergibson7155 The Bible says that it is the truth therefore it is.
So if there is a book that claims that your God doesn't exist and also claims that IT is the truth means that that book is indeed the truth and thus your God doesn't exist?
@@christophergibson7155Using the Bible to prove the Bible, huh? Two words: circular reasoning.
The term "free will' is not in the bible
Gave up god a long long time ago, but it's still refreshing to hear you break down reasons I hadn't ever formulated. Just how is it that there are still so many who believe?
I hear people quote Deuteronomy to justify their hatred of trans people. Yet those same people never want to stone idolaters to death 🤔
Or the many hundreds of penticostal fake and false Prophets .. (of course this is not the stone age we wouldn't .)..however It is written by the same God by his Law ... false prophets to be stoned to death ....😅
I never heard a Christian say that. Are you sure it's not just internet shock clickbait stuff?
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This are are those verses Christians quote to support their anti-trans bigotry:
Deuteronomy 22:5
Deuteronomy 23:1
Read Deut. 25: 11-12 and see what bs god says about women and testicles. How anyone still takes this bs bible seriously in 2023 defies logic. The "holey" book.
@@canwelook Oh do you mean, just not wanting trans being presented as normal being taught to all children? Is that your definition of biogtry and hate? I wouldn't define that as biogtry or hate. It's just that God probably is really against it, and they're trying to follow him. Turns out he's not too great of a God, but that's not the people's fault. They think they're threatened with eternal torture and have to think this way. God probably would want to kill them but he wants to kill almost everyone, so there's nothing really all that special about the trans people.
When a nation loses itself, has no cohesion or national identity, or high aspirations, it withers and dies of its own accord. The final stages of this individual and combined weakness and natural decline are defeat in war, famine and disease, pointed out in this biblical narrative, to particular dramatic effect to stay in the reader's mind. No help, either way, from the Lord is necessary; it is people, then and now, who are responsible.