W40K: ROGUE TRADER - HUGE PATCH 1.2 NEWS - BIG NERFS, PSYKER BUFFS & 2500+ Changes!
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Learn what the most important changes in Rogue Trader's BIGGEST PATCH yet, Patch 1.2 are!
With HUGE OFFICER NERFS, PSYKER & PYRO BUFFS and 2500+ changes!
Timestamps down below:
Chapters
00:00 Patch 1.2 Overview: Officer/Cassia NERFS, PSYKER & PYRO Buffs
01:03 PYROMANCER Damage Buffs
02:43 PSYKER Buffs
03:46 Seize the Initiative NERF
05:46 Extra Turn Stacking NERFS
06:29 CASSIA Navigator Nerfs
09:05 ASSASSIN Nerf, Operative & Pasqal Buffs
10:03 ARCH MILITANT Nerfs
11:05 NEW Talents/Feats
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CHARACTER CREATION Guide: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - C...
CASSIA OP Navigator Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - C...
OFFICER PSYKER Buffer & 1K+ NUKER Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - O...
ARGENTA BURST Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - A...
ABELARD Tank Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - A...
PASQAL Plasma Lord BUILD: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - P...
IDIRA PSY God Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - I...
HEINRIX Dodge TANK/DPS Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - H...
JAE Dual Pistols Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER- JA...
MARAZHAI Dual Wield & 2H/Dodge Tank Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - M...
OFFICER NOBLE Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - O...
YRLIET Sniper ASSASSIN Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - Y...
ULFAR BURST Marine Build: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - U...
BEST STRATEGY to get OP EARLY even on UNFAIR: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - T...
COLONY MANAGEMENT Guide: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - C...
FORGEFIEND on UNFAIR 1 TURN/0 DMG: • W40K: ROGUE TRADER - F...
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I really hope you make some new builds for this update especially pyro blaster!
@SinsArmor speaks for the community!
I still don't understand why the game has a minimum Psi rating of 0 when even in the tabletop Rogue Trader the minimum Psi rating was 1, and a Psi rating of 0 meant a normal person (not a psyker).
CRPG bro is so busy now with all the patches and changes. Still keeping on top of it and breaking it down for us. Super grateful
Thanks, friend!
RIP my lovely infinite turn officer and arch-militant combo. Much like the Arcane Warriors of DA:O, you were too powerful for the Emperor to let you live.
Any plans to do more rogue trader builds? I'd like to see builds for each pathway like a psyker built for the heretical sword. Or other builds based on the origins like the crimelord?
Yep!
Just waiting for DLC in early August for fully up to date content!
@@cRPGBro Unfortunately, DLC has been postponed on 24 September :/
My man!
I've been with you from the start, and what I really like that you revisit games after a big patch and redo all the builds.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for the comment and the support!
Just waiting for the DLC to update the builds now.
Thank you for the news!
Great summary! Thanks!
Can we expect more builds? Loved all the Rogue Trader content and I would love to see more 😊
100% yes!
Just waiting for the DLC to release in early August.
Looking forward to your new build videos! I was following your vids during release but they are quite outdated now.
Waiting for updated officer pskyer build
Hi, I love your channel and your videos. I'm currently playing Rogue Trader and I'm loving it. Since we're at it, I have a question: does this new patch change many aspects of the builds you've already published? Congratulations on your videos and greetings from Argentina.
Hi there and thank you!
It does change mostly Officer Builds, especially as far as the Seize the Initiative Talent not being necessary/that good anymore.
And you can't stack as many turns in the first round of battle because of some ability nerfs.
I'm waiting for the DLC coming soon to update the builds!
waiting for DLC but would like builds when ever you make them!
Just waiting for the DLC here for truly up to date content 😀
I tried playing around with the nerfs and it got really bad on Aurora, basically - you never go first, and there is no pre buffing so you watch the start of battle hoping no one gets one shoted and then you can buff etc. Officers feel like they are in the party to cast finest hour and otherwise useless :(
problem for tanks like abelard with low initiative is that they don't get to taunt early, which greatly reduces their "useful" tanking ability
That is true, but thankfully someone like Cassia as Grand Strategy can still ensure he goes first!
Also depending on starting battle position, you can "bait" the enemies into going for Abelard by putting him out of cover for example/closer to enemies.
@@cRPGBro Which was one of the primary tools for getting them to go after Abelard anyway. Enemy AI is and always has been exploitable to an extent. Done through combinations of lines of sight and positioning and if you can figure out certain priorities for certain enemies.
@@cRPGBro Wait, how would cassia ensure he goes first? I'll be honest I didn't use much grand strategist stuff on her and had no one else as one so i'm not sure, but since we don't get extra turns anymore with officer... is there a way to increase ally initiative as Grand strategist?
@@cRPGBro Wait, how would cassia ensure he goes first? I'll be honest I didn't use much grand strategist stuff on her and had no one else as one so i'm not sure, but since we don't get extra turns anymore with officer... is there a way to increase ally initiative as Grand strategist?
@@cRPGBro ok, for some strange reason I though we're losing the extra turns from Bring it Down too. Forget my question xDxD
Owlcat is goated
It's true. Owlcat is indeed the GOAT.
Based CRPGBro also uses Ultrawide :>
It's the best resolution
Please please update your builds for the new patch. I’m following your builds and this patch hit 1/3 into my first playthrough
Pyro having his setup and payoff be single target is the biggest ball and chain. Very underwhelming
Bought the game right at 1.2 Exciting
Same, it goes into the bin. to bad its digital, theres no CD to shred.
Still kind of need to rebalance our favorite Aeldari sniper. Also, Master Tactician (if i remember right) is now silly strong. The +4% damage per stack makes anyone into a one-shot machine. Stick it on a psyker with AoE and i was dropping some 2k bombs. If your officers drops an extra turn on you, pretty much ends any fight where the enemy doesnt have invulnerability.
The best, as always. Thank you!
Thank you too!
is cassia still playable after patch?
Would you say Cassia is now not as mandatry and can be replaced by other characters in the party?
I still think she is mandatory, because her powers are not only unique but also still amazing!
Great video as always. I think arch millitant pyromancer is the best DPS build in the game, just beat the game on unfair with such build. It has so much potential if you are dogmatic, because with the Eyes of Joyeuse you can get to 10 psy rating late game, that with Warp Surge Brooch gives you the same amount of attacks the first turn + more attacks from wild fire and run and gun, it can get you to 12-13 attacks, prebuffed you can have the AP to use those 12 attacks. I carried a flamethrower for the trash mobs with flame weapon expert its heavy attack costs 1AP, for the the bosses molten beam and basic flamethrower attacks. The soldier and arch millitant have so many strong feats and you will not be useless early game. The build is so strong that I killed in one turn the final boss . And now after this update It is even more powerful...
Is Unfair still very possible with all the nerfs, without being unreasonable?
As far as I know they haven't patched out the infinite xp glitch in act 1 so.... :D
Unfair is unreasonable, that's the point of the mode.
Unfair in RT is still much easier than in Pathfinders, and RT builds are still OP and easy to break without any guides, so it's totally reasonable.
Please, make more builds!
I will! As soon as the DLC releases next month.
Isn't the Killind Edge channge a buff, rather than a nerf? I'm slightly confused.
We would have to look about how much things get changed based upon wounds. At high levels it could be a bit of a buff overall. But it looks like it is likely a buff at lower levels, but a overall lower endcap. Though the way it reads it may actually sneak by this affect.
And that's kind of a thing. He calls things a nerf when he lists out the changes but doesn't mention that the minimum math on several of them is actually higher and it's just the high end math that is lowered. So they will be stronger initially but won't scale as highly for many of them.
Well, Killing Edge is now much harder to make a one-hit kill with, even with ultra high lethality and other bonuses, mainly because that flat Killing Edge bonus is now unaffected by bonus dmg percentage (which usually gave the most extra dmg when combined). It does deal a bit higher flat damage, so it's "a buff", but it doesn't move any higher, doesn't change, and isn't that great
@@adammusia9527 it should change at least a bit. Both from stacking lethality and from the effect from the wounds of the opponent. How much would require knowing what the second calculation is. It's just not going to skyrocket anymore.
@@Quandry1 oh, it does change on lethality, but it's a special type of flat dmg that isn't affected by percentage dmg modifier, and that was the main thing that gave Killing Edge its high dmg -> normally you had, for example, +50 flat from Killing Edge, and that was multiplied by all the other things. Now it doesn't get multiplied by extra things at all, and your Assassin doesn't hit high at all. They could've capped it, instead they handicapped it completely. Killing Edge on the Opening now hits for 80-100, and that's high-ish
@@adammusia9527 so it is scaling then you are just confusing scaling with multiplicative bonuses. It has a minimum and maximum effectiveness (a cap) that changes based upon various factors.
The nerfs to officers/arch-militants make me very happy with the direction of the game. I truly don't understand the people who want their turn-based strategy game to end on round one, turn one with the same exact recipe every single time. The fact that Cassia Grand Strategist was so popular just because of going first and taking no talents for it just underscores how broken the balance of the action economy was. Cassia is still OP but this reigns it in a little bit. I hope they make some of the underperforming origins as good as psykers now though, like Commissars just seems very underwhelming and clumsy.
Thank you so much for the Super Thanks!
And yep, I can understand why nerf the heavily powerful Alpha/Strike/Extra Turn stack nature of the "meta".
This is a turn based RPG, not strategy. Maybe that's why you don't understand why people like super powerful builds.
@@Axetwin I understand why people like very powerful builds. For some people, it's the satisfaction of playing with the stats to break the game and have a sense of mastery over the mechanics. For most people, it's just about wanting to play on easy mode and not actually engage with the mechanics of the game as intended. If you are playing in a way that invalidates the participation of the entire opposing force in all combat in all the game, I don't really value your opinion about the mechanics of the game at all. The rest of us want a more balanced game where multiple builds are viable for replayability and core mechanics of entire classes don't trivialize the whole experience. There will always be cheats for you.
@@Swrdfshtrmbnsyou can just not use the OP builds if you feel like its cheating.
The majority of "strategy" is what you do outside of combat to prepare for it. Finding out how to best set up your team to perform the way you wanted to to decimate you enemies IS what makes the strategy fun for many people. The fact that they are removing that option and invalidating the effort many people have found enjoyment in to come up with these builds is rather disappointing the me. The actual combat portion itself is the Tactics btw :). Also breaking game mechanics and becoming a god is fun in and of itself. It's just like how many games include cheat codes (or used to at least). Challenge can be fun, but so can other things.
New builds or wait for dlc?
Waiting for DLC!
It's coming in around 1 month and a half, and I'm sure they'll add more talents/gear etc.
They really gutted officer. Wtf do you do now other than buff?
I'm honestly no surprised because of the nerfs. Cassia is extremely busted, and officer was by far the best class
I was playing this game with my friends a while ago and all the extra turns really ruined the multiplayer experience because we just gave argenta infinite turns and no one else every got a turn to use their characters
I just don't get how you are supposed to build a character in Rogue Trader, there are so many feat choices and classes and the vast vast majority of them seem useless. I admit that learning about extra turns and chaining them together seemed to trivialize the game, but how is it supposed to be played? I just don't get how to build characters, especially after the patch. I hope you release some new character guides since I feel like all the old builds are now obsolete.
Appreciate all the content.
A lot of it comes down to picking a very specific playstyle and stacking everything onto that one aspect. And then looking for ways to make other skills and abilities synergize with each other to boost them up further than they would be alone. For example if you want to use slash as a warrior, you should try and spend as much points as you can making that single ability as powerful as possible and not so much on building up other skills at the same time, unless building up another skill will directly lead into making slash more powerful as well. That isn't to say you cant make jack of all trade characters, but they are much harder to pull off and aren't ever going to be nearly as good at each thing as a build dedicated to singular aspect. Wish is a lot different from a lot of games where you can sort of max out everything.
Owlcat games are very heavily associated w/ the Pathfinder TTRPG franchise, which are like very complex versions of D&D. They kind of expect you to spend hours looking over every ability and planning out how you are going to progress your character before you even start the game, and there are definitely ways to do it wrong and screw yourself over. Which I very much enjoy, but I know that not everyone does. And as much as I love their games and want people to play them; and would hate to turn someone off to them, if that doesn't sound like fun to you it might mean they aren't games for you.
Or, you could just watch a vid of someone else's build online and use that :)
Please update your builds if you can. Please, pretty pretty please!
Important to note!
The player *can* become an unsanctioned psyker!
Once you reach the Exemplar talent tree, simply pick Psychic Awakening talent, and you can become a psyker from level 30+
I keep hearing saying you can't become an unsanctioned psyker - this is wrong!
The problem is it takes a very long time for that!
Which is what I prefer to say you can mostly be Sanctioned only.
I'm honestly amazed by how the pyromancer buff is the exact thing I suggested 6 months ago in a reddit post, before quitting the game at act 2.
I'm gonna pick the game up again, methinks.
I wouldn't call the change to officer skills a "nerf". It's more of a "fix" because these skills were so unbelievably broken that I stopped my run because I had 0 fun with buffing one unit over and over so it can move 5 times in the same turn and one shoot everything even on hardest difficulty.
The reason the the nerfs to Cassia always mention Navigator`s powers instead of mentioning her by name is that you can kick her off your boat and hire a mercenary replacement(because unlike all the other killable/kickable party members you ALWAYS need a navigator for plot reasons)
So what's even the point of kicking her out ? You lose story contents and you end up with a navigator anyway.
@@SavageDragon999the point would be getting a navigator that has a different planet and class
I can't wait for the update builds. I know nothing about this games mechanics lol. No like Pathfinder at all. It's more like wasteland 3.
Still destroying things
Just wish for a Bounty Hunter buff, it still seems kinda crappy.
To be fair, these nerfs are really only targeting the one-turn-win strategies, which RT badly needed.
It was way too easy to break the old system, even at early levels. And let's face it, no turn-based game is going to be fun if every combat (including boss battles) ends up being a one-turn face-roll. Sure, you may get a power fantasy out of it, but that gets old really fast... at least, it does for me.
There has to be some risk of failure, and the whole "free-turns-for-everyone!" characters made it practically impossible to fail... even at Unfair difficulty. It doesn't have to be Dark Souls difficult, but it DOES need to present a challenge, and the old system just... didn't.
I think the nerfs were a good thing, which is something I rarely say with any game. Just my two cents.
Thats wild you was struggling with the damage on pyro because I was just dogwalking people with my pyro/grand strategist (I think that is the one he puts buffs on the ground) cassia would buff my willpower to high heavens my created noble officer would buff me even more and I would just dominate on the hardest difficulty too.....I struggled against the chaos dude in the 1st chapter but, lets be real.....everyone struggled against him on higher difficulties
decided to play this incredible game one more time. After a while I relised that something is wrong and then checked this video. Now I understand. It was a good game. Sadly not anymore :)
Nerfs are good.
i dont get it, why they buffed psyker? the start at act 1 is hard....cause u must "snip" but u start very earlie to oneshot all on fucking unfair
Starting from act 2 at the highest difficulty the game was a joke and i finished with no satisfaction at all. these nerfs seem to be not even close to enough tbh
Personally I disagree with the nerfs on extra turn when the enemies are 50 and begin their turn before you one shot your team in general and debuff you we have a problem. it looks like they are going the poe2 route when they nerf so much class that certain combination become unusable for greater difficulties.
this nuked my mc officer into trashcan.
gotta love a patch that fucks over a campaign of nearly 80h put into it.
i've never seen them do something this stupid.
you can likely roll back the patch and finish your run on the version before this. If you can't find it on steam (rightclicking the game) you can also google around for an older patch version and deactivate automatic updates for the game.
I thought there was a free re-spec option after patch.
@@XenomorphsWrath Maybe they’re not playing the PC version.
How dare they balance the game after you played it. Don't they know who you are!
@@TheGamernews1 well, that's kinda like "how can I walk if my legs are amputated" .. No satisfying answer can be given under those circumstances. I chose to provide an answer that could help instead ^^'
I hate to see Games I like make this mistake.
If it's a single player game and devs nerf game mechanics I like, then I have no reason to download and install the patch.
And you could argue it's not a nerf and it's just balance to the gameplay.
Haf way through my Unfair playthrough the game went from, barrely manageable at times to Hardcore crazy. Thanks Devs, Instead of spending 20 minutes on a fight it is now an hour, so much more engaging -_-
the biggest nerf I have noticed personally are two things, extra turns, yes that is one, BUT ALSO stacking buffs to Character abilities (vie focus and similar Talents.... Some are now capped to 25)
The buff at the start to abilities CAN NOT offset the nerfs received and makes the game about 2x or more harder as an estimation. (Poor new players can now dream of Core and anything higher :D)
EDIT:
So I played through the game on unfair and I change my statement. The beginning of the game is much more difficult, although for some reason the bosses are not. Also only fights where enemies get extra turns that overrule your turns, such as Dark Elfie Girl, when she starts monuologing, or Uralon fight are a bight harsher now. But since they added more Damage modifiers than you previously had such as the SIeze Initiative bonus to damage and Dual wield damage buff it is still manageable. On one hand it feels more challenging on the other it also feels more RNG now, since Idira is now the highest DPS (even though she can no longer cast magic when in extra turns provided by bounty hunter, other than debuffs and buffs) and she likes to blow herself up... I would also recommend taking Pyromancy as Idira, not for the spells much, but for the passive bonuses that also apply to your Psychic scream effects.
If you can't have fun with all the crazy abilities fixed may I suggest playing on a lower difficulty?
@@20storiesunder Cute, really, made me teary eyed... The point was not me not having fun, but developer offsetting the extra turn cheese by addressing enemy extra turns.