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I've had a narcissistic boss that everyone loved but treated me so poorly and ultimately fired me when I spoke up and took my complaints to HR. It happens every day. I believe the dancers and I hope they get justice.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’ve been in similar situations and can never understand how other people can’t see the narcissism and toxicity. I’ve come to believe that some people are just more adept at seeing who someone really is, good or bad.
I’ve danced for years. Dancers have a VERY strict policy for dancers and their responsibilities regardless if you are skinny or not. The entertainment industry is a true BEAST and it’s NOT for the weak.
Does that involve leading a chant and pressuring the female dancers to eat a banana out of other womens privates? She fired one for not wanting to do it. Im glad theyre speaking out.
I kinda believe it just because of how unstable Lizzo is. This minute she’s preaching to the high heavens how much she loves her body and then the next she’s crying over some idiotic comment by a random troll. You just really never know what you’re getting with Lizzo and if she’s that all over the place to the public, I can only imagine what she’s like privately.
@@Multiversetraveler93 Oh and that's even a BETTER example 😂 "You can love your body and then be sad when hordes of people come bullying you…. which then gives you a ticket to bully and fat shame others such as the people who work under you." Maybe you should just travel the universe and quit with the multiversing.
@@HerfortzDid you hear what the claim that’s being made is? Davis is claiming that Lizzo said she was concerned that her performance had been not as good so she asked her what was up and Davis brought up her weight gain. David feels like Lizzo was commenting on her weight gain and making her feel like she had to discuss it.
@@Multiversetraveler93 I’ve never seen a celebrity go through as much mood swings as she does. It’s a constant thing. I get everyone has a breaking point but she really expects nothing but positivity when she post her body half exposed?
Before this lawsuit. Lizzo dox a girl for taking one of her chicken nuggets and Lizzos toxic fans where sending death threats to this girl. I am not making this up. Google it. Seems to me she has always been this way.
And rude! Remember when she put that Uber eats driver on blast and then it turned out Lizzo put the wrong address! Also Lizzo did have an interview and she spoke about the Banana 🍌 incident! Eating the banana that’s inside a women’s privates.
I believe the victims. I saw a video of Lizzo in ''tears'' being fat shamed ...now a year later....these allegations come out...Lizzo most likely has that personality where she feeds on her haters and takes it out on people who work for her....she's built a toxic personality from her fame plus feeding into all her haters.
Good point. Though I wonder if they just meant the producer having 2nd thoughts provides a *more* objective view, outside of her employed staff/dancers, to have problems with Lizzo - that it is not just limited to people with potential to gain from suing - than they were trying to say they respect/believe a "more important" producer ???
This always seemed like her personality. I’m surprised anyone thought she came across as nice. Think lots of people overlooked her tacky, and classless behavior just because she preached about “body positivity”. The allegations align with her persona. The music and entertainment industry is very well known for being toxic and abusive. Lizzo joins a long list of other bullies.
It's a job, not a friends club. Do what's expected to earn your paycheck, then go home. Employees are not entitled to set the job expectations for a business. Performing artists are a business and THEY set those expectations, not the other way around. I commend Lizzo for keeping her artistic standards and performance standards. Employees always have a quit option. Find a job somewhere else.
@@76482This all went completely over your head considering what you said. You commend Lizzo for almost assaulting a worker and body shaming them which is very hypocritical to what she says about body postivity. It's all still allegations in the end but the fact that you seem to have an acceptance of these things like anyone deserves to be treated this way because of work standards, you need to be checked real quick before you hurt someone.
Her former creative director also collaborated the allegations. I don’t like Lizzo. Never had after the Postmates incident. In 2019 she accused a Postmates driver of stealing her food and posted her name and picture all over social media. She deleted the tweet and apologized but the damage was already done. The driver was harassed and forced to quit her job. The driver sued but ultimately dismissed the lawsuit because she was paid off.
We don't know all of the facts but bullying and narcissism is rampant in all work places, all over the world. Individuals who especially come from a marginalized group, should really know better. I frankly find it beyond wrong, its inhumane.
I think something we need to remember is that lizzo is 35 years old. She’s a grown as women and should know better. Second, she’s a boss. They way she treaded her employees is unacceptable and I hope they get the justice they deserve because no one should feel forced to do something they don’t want to do or feel threatened when you go to work. Or in this case fly to another country for a tour.
Why are the ladies defending her and her actions? I do think Whoopi is right we need all the information. But multiple people coming out means we need to listen and appropriate authorities investigate.
Ive never been impressed inspired or wowed by Lizzo. Who knows if she’s in the wrong here but I will say eventually if you are shady inauthentic or a fraud, truths will come to light. It might take a while but it will surface
Isn't that something, Whoopi is trying to tow the line whenever it's someone who she doesn't care for? She goes all in, but now it's Lizzo she is towing the line. I appreciate Sunny & Alyssa's take on this topic.
What gets me is the top people say guilty before evidence is brought forth and ruin that person career. Bill Cosby but the women kept coming back for more and now they trying to get him for something else he already served his time. This world is very wicket and evil
This just proves that people saying Lizzo isn't happy with herself are right. All these body positivity stuff is just for show. If you love yourself as a big person, you won't pick on other big people. I'm not really surprised. It's obvious she was arrogant from day 1 and full of herself
One dancer said she gained noticeable weight and was asked if something happening and she took that as body shamming. Honestly I think the truth is in the middle.
Sooo these women are just like Lizzo. However, they are trying to sue someone for "fat shaming" them. Lizzo couldn't so all the people who did the same to her because they don't have money.
I believe the victims. I saw a video of Lizzo in ''tears'' being fat shamed ...now a year later....these allegations come out...Lizzo most likely has that personality where she feeds on her haters and takes it out on people who work for her....she's built a toxic personality from her fame plus feeding into all her haters.
I don't believe these women. I think they're disgruntled employees. They couldn't keep up and they got fired! Lizzo is not your friend. Exactly. Mark, she was your boss! And this is what this generation does. Come on and try to trash her. I think this is **** ridiculous.
I believe the dancers. Lizzo has given herself up to the industry and the "yes" people around her. Glad they are bringing this out and maybe others will join them.
I believe the victims. I saw a video of Lizzo in ''tears'' being fat shamed ...now a year later....these allegations come out...Lizzo most likely has that personality where she feeds on her haters and takes it out on people who work for her....she's built a toxic personality from her fame plus feeding into all her haters.
Lizzos mistake was mixing business and pleasure. I don’t think there was intentional harassment, sounds like they were turning up at a strip club after a show. The dancers are paid employees and should have been treated as such at all times. Lizzo should have went out with her friends or family. As someone who has danced professionally, dancers are are expected to maintain the size/look that we present at time of audition for the duration of the contract. weight fluctuations negatively impacts technical execution of choreography and costume fitting. There was no fat shaming, just an expectation to uphold the standard. Management is within their rights to question a noticeable weight gain. I’m giving them the side eye because it’s giving now that since they aren’t cool with Lizzo anymore they are creating a smear campaign as the last desperate attempt to get paid. The lesson for everyone is to keep up professional witj employees at all times.
These dancers are out for money big time and look at all these nutty people throwing things on at the performers could put someones eye out or throw acid on stage living in a very sad world.
You really don't get it, this is not her first assault and among other things, If i was a dancer for Lizzo I would be lucky because your monthly or weekly salary outweighs being payed a one time fee and being blacklisted, their careers might be over.@@Bossy663
I was looking for this comment because it's exactly what I was thinking. When you are a star you need to treat those that you employ as just that. They are not your friends or family. I think she got too comfortable with them and thought she could treat them like friends thus the question about weight gain. I do think these ladies are looking for a payday but this should be a warning to other entertainers that you cannot mix business with pleasure. If I was an entertainer I would keep my conversation with them limited to the task at hand and would not socialize with them outside of that. No dinners or parties. Do your job then go home (or back to the hotel if on tour).
Perfectly said Tbrown. As Whoopi said let's wait till it all comes out in the wash, it's dangerous to react to a d story and with Hollywood and the American entertainment industry in general you never know. I remember watching the Netflix documentary on jlo and just balling my eyes out. I felt sooo bad cos I was one of the people who championed the narrative that it was over for her when she was just trying to work on her art, as a cake artist I tried to put myself in her shoes and wondered how I would have felt if my art was constantly criticised as such, same is the story of Toni braxton who was shamed on the Oprah show and she couldn't respond due to an NDA she just sat there looking miserable while she was accused of being a spend thrift and what about Britney? nobody thoughtto consider that she probably going through post birth mental and emotional health issues? My point is I'm not quick to join the banner of tearing people down anymore just cos of what's popular on main stream media. I'm going to wait this one out and come to conclusion when the picture is complete
Exactly, if you mix business with pleasure, things can go bad bad when they go south. Lizzo probably mix business with friendship and feelings got involved, and now they are filing and seeing her from a business perspective. And now where's the friendship lol 😆
Oh I 100% believe the victims. Because my sister has actually met Lizzo before and my sister Said the same thing that she is very rude disrespectful and arrogant.
Other allegations that LIZZO is being sued for and left out in this segment… 1) Lizzo took her Dancers to a strip club where Dildos and bananas 🍌 were being launch from the strippers va Jay jays and Lizzo teased one of her dancers to eat the Banana. 2) The dancers weren’t being paid on time. The dancers also had to fight for retainers bc Lizzo and her team didn’t want them to take jobs while they were on long hiatus. They only ask fo a 15% retainer and Lizzo was not happy about that. Opinion: no one should work for free. Pay your dancers LIZZO!! 3) Rehearsal were 12 hours with NO BREAKS! 4) The woman in the brown shirt in the CNN clip has an eye condition where she was recording Lizzo lecture since she couldn’t take notes. This upset lizzo and why lizzo threaten her. Opinion: not that Lizzo s reaction was right but the dancer should have let lizzo know ahead of time. 4) Not Lizzo but her Dance captain was pushing her religion on to the other dancers. The dance captain also berated some of the dancers for having premarital sex, while she was telling the dancers about her sexual fantasy. She also disclosed to others on the team who was a virgin and who wasn’t. 5) The dancer say that Lizzo treated her dancers and Crew of color badly.
*The issues around payment were with the production company, NOT Lizzo. ONE rehearsal was 12 hours and that’s honestly not that out of left field for the level they are performing at.
@@arianna5270 lizzo is head of her production company, but yes she should have also Ben ontop of the person doing payment and 12 HOURS WITH NO BREAKS is abuse.
@@MarGoLuv But Lizzo being the head of the company is not the same as her running day to day. It’s unlikely that these are conversations that were ever had with Lizzo as an international tour is a huge endeavor and it’s impossible for one person to hold all of the logistics. I honestly don’t believe that it was a 12 hour rehearsal with no breaks as it’s near physically impossible for people to work out that long without water and bathroom breaks. That said 12 hours of rehearsal is not uncommon for the level at which they are performing. If a Beyoncé backup dancer sued her for a 12 hour rehearsal most would laugh and say “what do you expect it’s Beyoncé”
This is complicated, something doesn't sound right. I want to believe the ladies and I dont want to believe them. Hope the truth comes out after the investigation.
Even before these allegations came up, she always struck me as the loud overweight bully! The fact that people couldn’t see this even before these allegations goes to show that many people lack a good discernment of character
Why is everybody saying stuff like this for music so uplifting I never see her talking about anybody but herself for the most part and she seems to take accountability when she says something out of the way
@matthewpilling9494 it sounds like an excusable comment though... plus I don't think she's that hurt so much anymore I feel that the money has made her controlling like it does many celebrities
Famous people have two faces ,and most of us see the one in public rarely do we get to see the private human being. If we ever had the chance to know a famous person , we might not like them at all . My gut tells me , the young ladies are telling the truth. I do hope they have strong evidence , so they could win there lawsuit ? If this makes it to Court ? We might find out the truth? Well see.
I don't believe anything was done to harm them. I think what she did wrong is befriend them and start hanging with them like girl friends. Now they want to act like cry babies and seem sour they were fired.
And these ladies waiting until they get more information? Should have applied that to all the men they "cancelled". We need to stop worshipping human beings.
Speaking from an entertainment industry lens: Who is/will be hiring these people as dancers for anything anytime soon? I feel they were happy to be on a big ticket and they are having trouble moving on. Power dynamics can also be an employer afraid of their employees suing them.
Totally agree. I’m sure they already are having issues getting jobs as dancers due to their size and now this. No other artist will want to work with them.
Of course, they were happy to be on a big ticket. But surely didn't expect to be mistreated by someone they thought was positive and understanding. I can only imagine their feelings of betrayal.
When are we finally going to accept that we ALL have Layers and we are flawed...Disapointing but hopefully these ladies have good legal representation. Lets hope this can be a long run learning experience for Lizzo, maybe address some demons yet to be dealt with, etc. She can grow from this and be better, and i hope she can.
@@jacksoncowsert6964 in this case, i don't think despite these allegations, that Lizzo is so out of it that she can't take responsibility and recognize other feelings. Do I think it would be treated differently if it was a man? Many men deny, lie and or denigrate victims feelings...even after evidence is presented. To me, that's what makes it worse for people. All anyone of us ever ask is validate our discomfort and feelings. Get in fron t of it, recognize what happned even if you didnt mean it, etc. If she can do that! If others can do that Then there is hope
@@BroadwayBabyyy744 I think it’s called equal opportunity having the same rights as men and that’s where Lizzo is. Women can do this just as easy as American they’re arresting, female teachers for having sex with their students. Now we are now equal offenders. I hope everyone is proud.
I remember the dancer in the middle from Whatch Out for the Big Girlzzz. I'm not shocked that she would be on here saying this stuff because her personality never really fit w Lizzo's. She seemed a bit prudish and Lizzo is anything but so I could see her being uncomfortable out partying w her, and I can see Lizzo getting annoyed w her. Lizzo seems like she could have a mean streak and is probably a bit too casual w her dancers and staff. I do hope she bounces back frok this cuz i think some of this might be a bit conflated. Some of it I believe, some I'm taking w a grain of salt.
Lizzo always talks body positivity one day and cries and shows how insecure she is the next day on social media. Lizzo needs therapy and to be held accountable. I was not surprised by these allegations. I do believe innocent until proven guilty.
Most people who believe, “in this body positivity movement “are full of crap. Many fat people specifically fat girls say this to make themselves feel good but if you ask a lot of them privately they will tell you they want to be skinny or small. And the problem is when you’re promoting such a very unhealthy lifestyle you lash out at people in Ways You never knew existed.
It’s wild how much they emphasize “allegedly” and “wait for all the info in court” here but any other day they are sarcastically reading the legal notes and laughing
Everybody can't handle celebrity status!! Maturity doesn't come with age it comes with experience. Your gift can take you places where your character want keep you!
Why do people believe all of this? They're obviously lying and they hate the fact that they're fired and they're not getting good mulah anymore. People loce to hate celebrities because they're MAD JEALOUS!
FYI I am not a lizzo fan and I believe those girls are just pissed at Lizzo they're only telling part of a story Lizzo and the girls fell out and now they want to take her down... Lizzo was looking for plus size women to go on tour with her so please those allegations doesn't stand .. they're just pissed because they got let go and couldn't perform the dance moves so they want to say oh she cut me because of how I look. No that's how you feel about yourself she cut you because you couldn't do what you were hired to do. So please go have several seats you knew what you were getting yourself into and you took the job knowing you were not about that life... So pretty much they basically lied on their application
Well there is a logical reason for that- trump’s character/reputation has been around a very long time and precedes itself. Lizzo on the other hand - this is a first- so let’s wait and see just means we have stuff to learn with her. She hasn’t been around long enough to truly know
@@Danuta628 Either you're consistent with that logic or you aren't. There's multiple allegations against Lizzo that Sarah brought up. It's not the first and that's factually incorrect. Azealia Banks has also made allegations in the past about Lizzo
If you can’t see Trump’s fact whose putting his ego and party before this beautiful country, your crying for and trashing others for then your comparison is mind blowing.
@@Danuta628 I dislike Trump and his family, but I don't believe everything I hear just because he's slimey or has a history. That's nonsense. I'm consistent with everyone. I can't believe I have to say that lol
@@jacquelineotto4148 No, you're biased and choose when to implement logic. Doesn't matter what you think of Trump, either you're consistent with your morals and logic, or keep it shut! Different rules for others is hypocritical
People need to understand their is a line of professionalism at WORK! People at work are not your personal friends and that is where the blurred lines start. Yes you can become friends with those at WORK but even that you still must tread lightly cuz not everybody is for you and your private space. And if this is true Lizzo and her execs need a leadership and ethics course because this behavior just is not accepted at all places. Yes it's her brand and her company but if you're running it like the wild west people will leave in droves and snitch on the way out so...js
Whoopi is willing to give Lizzo the benefit of the doubt because Lizzo is a woman. If Lizzo was a man. She definitely wouldn't be giving him, the benefit of the doubt.
I want to be clear celebrities, especially in the US, are treated like gods and goddesses. These people never hear the word no. I have seen stars at New York Airport, Los Angeles Airport, and London's Heathrow. How they talk about us, the fans to their personal assistant, will shock you.
I've worked for a person who was disrespectful and verbally abusive numerous times to me... and after a while I walked out! I left him overwhelmed with all with MY job responsibilities, an impending personal move, business/ client and relationship issues! 🤗 It was one of the best days of my life, because my mental health was more important than another paycheck from him! 🤗 KARMA did make a VISIT to him... he lost the rest of his staff, his business closed, he got a reputation of being "difficult", and his relationship ended! 🤗
I will save judgment until all the facts are presented. We live in a day and time where people will do or say anything for a check. Whoever is telling the truth deserves justice, whether it is the former employees or Lizzo.
This panel has always used poor judgement when it comes to Lizzo, primarily because shes a large black woman. From the beginning you could tell she doesnt give a crap about anybody when she exposed her disgusting *ss at a Lakers game. Not a bit surprised if she did what she's accused of. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift has been the model of class throughout her long career.
There is no surprise here. Lizzo has shown on stage anytime she has a speech that she is not a nice person and she very verbally violent including systematically cursing. This case doesn’t sound good but hey…
Lizzo out here projecting her insecurities on others. I’m not judging because I don’t know Lizzo personally but she seems really cantankerous. I hope corporate America will respond with the same energy they used on Jonathan Majors allegations.
My mom worked at a womens clothing store for decades - all female employees including the store manager and always used to tell me hellish stories of the often intolerable toxic work environment with the catfighting, psychological/mental abuse, and backstabbing going on etc. She often wished there was a male store manager to run the shop for some order and civility!
Yes, I agree, having experienced this in the workplace and personally. It’s like high school behavior with the cliques, and if there is a bully among them, watch out! If you are an individual and true to yourself or you are in any way different from the group, watch out!
They also seem to think inappropriate behavior is ok because "we're all girls here". I worked at a store where all the female employees were asked for their bra size by the manager & I didn't feel like I could say no.
I’m going to be honest Lizzo is weird and gross on TikTok after watching one of her videos I stopped watching it. Because it was so odd and I believe these women like she is immature and if she wants to be better she should take accountability for her actions.
If the Depp v Heard trial taught us anything, it's to wait for the facts to come out in court before taking sides. I'm saving my opinions for when I have all the facts, not just the allegations.
@@chloer2584 she probably had surgery for being able to see far. Everybody needs glasses to read when they age. If you are short sighted, the only way to not need glasses to read would be to operate only one eye and leave the other as is and read with one read and see far from the other one. If you don’t have surgery and you are short sighed, you just need to lift your glasses to read close. Because what you lose as you age is the ability for your eyes to adapt from close to far vision.
I don't trust ultra positive people, there's a persona they want to portray. To me, they're hinding or covering something. I believe the dancers, not because of hard proof or data, I just feel they're being honest. By the way, aren't they suing for 75k? Like, that's nothing. Imagine splitting that between 2 other people and the lawyers. It must be a lawsuit made in the name of justice.
Watched the reality show, and one of the people making the allegation was an outstanding dancer and personality from the beginning of the show. While this will go to court, the truth is, this is their personal story, and it seems Lizzo felt she was above and beyond, and probably felt it was okay to treat the dancers badly. People in a high position of power forget what it was like to be the common person, and abuse their position of power.
I've had a narcissistic boss that everyone loved but treated me so poorly and ultimately fired me when I spoke up and took my complaints to HR. It happens every day. I believe the dancers and I hope they get justice.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’ve been in similar situations and can never understand how other people can’t see the narcissism and toxicity. I’ve come to believe that some people are just more adept at seeing who someone really is, good or bad.
Same! It’s the worst
Girl you got fired for stealing boxes on your day off
@chuck9380 😂😂😂
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All these women say ‘I love lizzo she embraces body positivity’ but if anyone says they look like Lizzo they would not be impressed.
My friend is her size and had to get a new Hipp.
😂😂😂
🤣you are so correct my dude
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Facts
I’ve danced for years. Dancers have a VERY strict policy for dancers and their responsibilities regardless if you are skinny or not. The entertainment industry is a true BEAST and it’s NOT for the weak.
Does that involve leading a chant and pressuring the female dancers to eat a banana out of other womens privates? She fired one for not wanting to do it. Im glad theyre speaking out.
So If I'm a dancer I can make you eat a banana out of a woman's privates because it's not for the weak????!
Are you calling the girls weak?? Wtf
And I get that. But some of these allegations are insane. Sexual harassment is not a difficult workplace that’s just wrong
being told to put a piece of fruit in your private parts and having another dancer eat it has nothing to do with dance though.
I kinda believe it just because of how unstable Lizzo is. This minute she’s preaching to the high heavens how much she loves her body and then the next she’s crying over some idiotic comment by a random troll. You just really never know what you’re getting with Lizzo and if she’s that all over the place to the public, I can only imagine what she’s like privately.
I'm sure that she's all over the place no matter where she is.
That’s not a good example. You can love your body and then be sad when hordes of people come bullying you….
@@Multiversetraveler93 Oh and that's even a BETTER example 😂 "You can love your body and then be sad when hordes of people come bullying you…. which then gives you a ticket to bully and fat shame others such as the people who work under you." Maybe you should just travel the universe and quit with the multiversing.
@@HerfortzDid you hear what the claim that’s being made is? Davis is claiming that Lizzo said she was concerned that her performance had been not as good so she asked her what was up and Davis brought up her weight gain. David feels like Lizzo was commenting on her weight gain and making her feel like she had to discuss it.
@@Multiversetraveler93 I’ve never seen a celebrity go through as much mood swings as she does. It’s a constant thing. I get everyone has a breaking point but she really expects nothing but positivity when she post her body half exposed?
I appreciate that Sunny & Alyssa both fans of Lizzo are able to see that these allegations might be true...
Who is a fan of lizzo like 😂
Before this lawsuit. Lizzo dox a girl for taking one of her chicken nuggets and Lizzos toxic fans where sending death threats to this girl. I am not making this up. Google it. Seems to me she has always been this way.
I agree. They spoke for me as a fan. So disappointed.
@@michaelfernandes4873the millions of people that go to her shows......
@@michaelfernandes4873there’s a lot of fans
I think Lizzo is talented but I believe the victims. In some many different ways Lizzo always seem to be extremely immature.
And rude! Remember when she put that Uber eats driver on blast and then it turned out Lizzo put the wrong address! Also Lizzo did have an interview and she spoke about the Banana 🍌 incident! Eating the banana that’s inside a women’s privates.
Another angry ex employee 😅😅
She has always been pervy.
I believe the victims. I saw a video of Lizzo in ''tears'' being fat shamed ...now a year later....these allegations come out...Lizzo most likely has that personality where she feeds on her haters and takes it out on people who work for her....she's built a toxic personality from her fame plus feeding into all her haters.
The Documentary producer isn't her employee. She's a colleague.
Sad that they don’t really believe the dancers until someone more important backs them up :(
Good point. Though I wonder if they just meant the producer having 2nd thoughts provides a *more* objective view, outside of her employed staff/dancers, to have problems with Lizzo - that it is not just limited to people with potential to gain from suing - than they were trying to say they respect/believe a "more important" producer ???
Look at Whoopi being defensive isn't she the one that defended Bill Cosby
Employer and employee mingling outside of work typically goes sour.
This always seemed like her personality. I’m surprised anyone thought she came across as nice. Think lots of people overlooked her tacky, and classless behavior just because she preached about “body positivity”. The allegations align with her persona. The music and entertainment industry is very well known for being toxic and abusive. Lizzo joins a long list of other bullies.
The no class issue is sort of what Whoopi was hinting at. You can be a great person but still an a**hole.
It's a job, not a friends club. Do what's expected to earn your paycheck, then go home. Employees are not entitled to set the job expectations for a business. Performing artists are a business and THEY set those expectations, not the other way around. I commend Lizzo for keeping her artistic standards and performance standards. Employees always have a quit option. Find a job somewhere else.
Welp…
@@76482This all went completely over your head considering what you said. You commend Lizzo for almost assaulting a worker and body shaming them which is very hypocritical to what she says about body postivity. It's all still allegations in the end but the fact that you seem to have an acceptance of these things like anyone deserves to be treated this way because of work standards, you need to be checked real quick before you hurt someone.
Even the liberals calling her out for acting like a liberal
They have nothing to gain? It’s a lawsuit… they’re trying to gain money.
Her former creative director also collaborated the allegations.
I don’t like Lizzo. Never had after the Postmates incident. In 2019 she accused a Postmates driver of stealing her food and posted her name and picture all over social media. She deleted the tweet and apologized but the damage was already done. The driver was harassed and forced to quit her job. The driver sued but ultimately dismissed the lawsuit because she was paid off.
That was a telling incident.
corroborated*
We don't know all of the facts but bullying and narcissism is rampant in all work places, all over the world. Individuals who especially come from a marginalized group, should really know better. I frankly find it beyond wrong, its inhumane.
…if true!
Thank you Sunny for staying consistent.
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I was actually very surprised!
@@Chillhard she named a very credible source that she believes against lizzo. She did her part.
Imagine if the dancers colors were reversed LOL.
@@DeLaCruz1987 seek help.
I think something we need to remember is that lizzo is 35 years old. She’s a grown as women and should know better.
Second, she’s a boss. They way she treaded her employees is unacceptable and I hope they get the justice they deserve because no one should feel forced to do something they don’t want to do or feel threatened when you go to work. Or in this case fly to another country for a tour.
Why are the ladies defending her and her actions? I do think Whoopi is right we need all the information.
But multiple people coming out means we need to listen and appropriate authorities investigate.
I'm not a Lizzo fan, but you're assuming that it happened
Yo momma's so fat when God said, "Let there be light," he asked your momma to move out of the way!!
*Woman
Allegedly! The things these dancers are saying is Lizzo shouldn’t act like a human but a Robot and not show any emotion
Ive never been impressed inspired or wowed by Lizzo. Who knows if she’s in the wrong here but I will say eventually if you are shady inauthentic or a fraud, truths will come to light. It might take a while but it will surface
Isn't that something, Whoopi is trying to tow the line whenever it's someone who she doesn't care for? She goes all in, but now it's Lizzo she is towing the line. I appreciate Sunny & Alyssa's take on this topic.
When has she "gone all in" without evidence? She is pretty consistent especially because she was a victims of allegations.
what about Joy's take?
Whoppi was a friend of a person that was charged and found innocent, and she knows that it doesn't go away, even when you die!
@@timbredan3476 Like Sunny, Joy is wishy washy. If it's someone they like it's a different story if it's someone they don't care for!
@@michellec5407 I think many humans are like that. We are emotional biased creatures.
When things go to court everything is different under oath for that reason I'm wanting the final judgement
What gets me is the top people say guilty before evidence is brought forth and ruin that person career. Bill Cosby but the women kept coming back for more and now they trying to get him for something else he already served his time. This world is very wicket and evil
It may never get there. She'll likely settle out of court
The degrees of irony in this story are mind-blowing. The fat-shaming piece is especially perplexing.🤯
This is your girl.
@@shadebleu You only wish you had a girl.
This just proves that people saying Lizzo isn't happy with herself are right. All these body positivity stuff is just for show. If you love yourself as a big person, you won't pick on other big people. I'm not really surprised. It's obvious she was arrogant from day 1 and full of herself
Everyone just needs to lose weight
One dancer said she gained noticeable weight and was asked if something happening and she took that as body shamming. Honestly I think the truth is in the middle.
Sooo these women are just like Lizzo. However, they are trying to sue someone for "fat shaming" them. Lizzo couldn't so all the people who did the same to her because they don't have money.
Alyssa is such a breathe of fresh air from Megan
That's an UNDERSTATEMENT LOL
no kidding! lol
Maybe! She is still a republican, so we shall see!
@@michellec5407but your a Democrat. Democrat women are the most depressed women in America. You need friends
Very disappointing. Hope these women receive the appropriate justice
For what….
For what!??? Hahaha Lizzo ask them to touch a men during a show, they can say “sure” or “no”. Nothing was forced!!
@@mikejohnson9403Lizzo ate all the other men
I believe the victims. I saw a video of Lizzo in ''tears'' being fat shamed ...now a year later....these allegations come out...Lizzo most likely has that personality where she feeds on her haters and takes it out on people who work for her....she's built a toxic personality from her fame plus feeding into all her haters.
@@rednugget1986 I think she was telling her dancers they weren’t big enough ?
I don't believe these women. I think they're disgruntled employees. They couldn't keep up and they got fired! Lizzo is not your friend. Exactly. Mark, she was your boss! And this is what this generation does. Come on and try to trash her. I think this is **** ridiculous.
I believe the dancers. Lizzo has given herself up to the industry and the "yes" people around her. Glad they are bringing this out and maybe others will join them.
As a full figured woman myself, I just couldn't not connect with what Lizzo is putting out. I always felt something was off with her.
That’s Heavy!!!!😂😂😂
Yuk Yuk Yuk
Stop Javi you savage
Hungry hungry hippo
They need to hold her accountable like they would if this was a man that was accused of these things !!!
Lizzzo got rich and it all went to her head she felt powerful because she has money
I believe the victims. I saw a video of Lizzo in ''tears'' being fat shamed ...now a year later....these allegations come out...Lizzo most likely has that personality where she feeds on her haters and takes it out on people who work for her....she's built a toxic personality from her fame plus feeding into all her haters.
Lizzos mistake was mixing business and pleasure. I don’t think there was intentional harassment, sounds like they were turning up at a strip club after a show. The dancers are paid employees and should have been treated as such at all times. Lizzo should have went out with her friends or family. As someone who has danced professionally, dancers are are expected to maintain the size/look that we present at time of audition for the duration of the contract. weight fluctuations negatively impacts technical execution of choreography and costume fitting. There was no fat shaming, just an expectation to uphold the standard. Management is within their rights to question a noticeable weight gain. I’m giving them the side eye because it’s giving now that since they aren’t cool with Lizzo anymore they are creating a smear campaign as the last desperate attempt to get paid. The lesson for everyone is to keep up professional witj employees at all times.
These dancers are out for money big time and look at all these nutty people throwing things on at the performers could put someones eye out or throw acid on stage living in a very sad world.
You really don't get it, this is not her first assault and among other things, If i was a dancer for Lizzo I would be lucky because your monthly or weekly salary outweighs being payed a one time fee and being blacklisted, their careers might be over.@@Bossy663
I was looking for this comment because it's exactly what I was thinking. When you are a star you need to treat those that you employ as just that. They are not your friends or family. I think she got too comfortable with them and thought she could treat them like friends thus the question about weight gain. I do think these ladies are looking for a payday but this should be a warning to other entertainers that you cannot mix business with pleasure. If I was an entertainer I would keep my conversation with them limited to the task at hand and would not socialize with them outside of that. No dinners or parties. Do your job then go home (or back to the hotel if on tour).
Perfectly said Tbrown. As Whoopi said let's wait till it all comes out in the wash, it's dangerous to react to a d story and with Hollywood and the American entertainment industry in general you never know. I remember watching the Netflix documentary on jlo and just balling my eyes out. I felt sooo bad cos I was one of the people who championed the narrative that it was over for her when she was just trying to work on her art, as a cake artist I tried to put myself in her shoes and wondered how I would have felt if my art was constantly criticised as such, same is the story of Toni braxton who was shamed on the Oprah show and she couldn't respond due to an NDA she just sat there looking miserable while she was accused of being a spend thrift and what about Britney? nobody thoughtto consider that she probably going through post birth mental and emotional health issues? My point is I'm not quick to join the banner of tearing people down anymore just cos of what's popular on main stream media. I'm going to wait this one out and come to conclusion when the picture is complete
Exactly, if you mix business with pleasure, things can go bad bad when they go south. Lizzo probably mix business with friendship and feelings got involved, and now they are filing and seeing her from a business perspective. And now where's the friendship lol 😆
I believe the victims but Lizzo always play victim
victim on victim crime is just the worst.
Oh I 100% believe the victims. Because my sister has actually met Lizzo before and my sister Said the same thing that she is very rude disrespectful and arrogant.
@@MrMalcolm900lol aight!
That's what narcissists do.
Sometimes people who were bullied become bullies themselves.
Sad.
But it happens
Power is a drug.
This is a consistent theme in people who are victimized for long periods of time. Unfortunate
Sometimes people play a role, its called showbiz.
Other allegations that LIZZO is being sued for and left out in this segment…
1) Lizzo took her Dancers to a strip club where Dildos and bananas 🍌 were being launch from the strippers va Jay jays and Lizzo teased one of her dancers to eat the Banana.
2) The dancers weren’t being paid on time. The dancers also had to fight for retainers bc Lizzo and her team didn’t want them to take jobs while they were on long hiatus. They only ask fo a 15% retainer and Lizzo was not happy about that. Opinion: no one should work for free. Pay your dancers LIZZO!!
3) Rehearsal were 12 hours with NO BREAKS!
4) The woman in the brown shirt in the CNN clip has an eye condition where she was recording Lizzo lecture since she couldn’t take notes. This upset lizzo and why lizzo threaten her. Opinion: not that Lizzo s reaction was right but the dancer should have let lizzo know ahead of time.
4) Not Lizzo but her Dance captain was pushing her religion on to the other dancers. The dance captain also berated some of the dancers for having premarital sex, while she was telling the dancers about her sexual fantasy. She also disclosed to others on the team who was a virgin and who wasn’t.
5) The dancer say that Lizzo treated her dancers and Crew of color badly.
*The issues around payment were with the production company, NOT Lizzo. ONE rehearsal was 12 hours and that’s honestly not that out of left field for the level they are performing at.
Wow did not know that . Thanks for sharing. Hope they get justice.
@@arianna5270 lizzo is head of her production company, but yes she should have also Ben ontop of the person doing payment and 12 HOURS WITH NO BREAKS is abuse.
@@MarGoLuv But Lizzo being the head of the company is not the same as her running day to day. It’s unlikely that these are conversations that were ever had with Lizzo as an international tour is a huge endeavor and it’s impossible for one person to hold all of the logistics. I honestly don’t believe that it was a 12 hour rehearsal with no breaks as it’s near physically impossible for people to work out that long without water and bathroom breaks. That said 12 hours of rehearsal is not uncommon for the level at which they are performing. If a Beyoncé backup dancer sued her for a 12 hour rehearsal most would laugh and say “what do you expect it’s Beyoncé”
@@arianna527012 hours is not the Problem. No Breaks are the Problem. Thats highly unprofessionell though.
Don’t glorify celebrities!!!!
Right
Only human being's make celebrities while no other species do that
This comment demonstrates many ordinary people are jealous of rich and/or famous people. Don't glorify any human or animal is a fair statement.
Accountability is something these people know nothing about
Who are "these people"?
@@queenroyalty7550corporate people
Yeah, Whoopie! Just like Bill Cosby, right?!?! Lmao!
None of this is surprising, I’m more shocked people bought into Lizzo’s performative behavior this whole time.
She did it!
If a man did this no one would say “ I love her and want to see her come back from this”
Thats gender equality for ya
yep
People were warned about Lizzo tho.. just saying
This is complicated, something doesn't sound right. I want to believe the ladies and I dont want to believe them. Hope the truth comes out after the investigation.
Whenever someones says "kinda" or "basically", they're lying.
Not hard to believe a woman like Lizzo would treat her people like this.
Even before these allegations came up, she always struck me as the loud overweight bully! The fact that people couldn’t see this even before these allegations goes to show that many people lack a good discernment of character
Why is everybody saying stuff like this for music so uplifting I never see her talking about anybody but herself for the most part and she seems to take accountability when she says something out of the way
A woman like Lizzo?
@@queenroyalty7550 , Speak on it! WTF exactly is "like Lizzo"?
Body positivity? What exactly is positive about being morbidly obese?
Hurt people hurt people.
I'm sorry that is no excuse and you can't get away with harassing your employees. She'll pay for this and she'll correct herself or she'll be done
@@jaxx0707 I never excused anyone, don't get it twisted
@matthewpilling9494 it sounds like an excusable comment though... plus I don't think she's that hurt so much anymore I feel that the money has made her controlling like it does many celebrities
@@jaxx0707 I cannot control how you interpret my remark. Excusing behavior and explaining behavior are two different things.
Not everyone, though, who is hurt in their life hurts others.
Smh… we need to promote healthy body positivity
Yes, and Lizzo is NOT the messenger for it
What does that mean? Lizzo has always worked out, discussed healthy eating and how important it is to take care of yourself.
@arianna5270 forcing your dancers to eat bananas out of other women's private parts is not healthy eating.
They couldve caught something.
body positivity is not just about weight you know and skinny people get body shamed too all people need body positivity
Famous people have two faces ,and most of us see the one in public rarely do we get to see the private human being. If we ever had the chance to know a famous person , we might not like them at all . My gut tells me , the young ladies are telling the truth. I do hope they have strong evidence , so they could win there lawsuit ? If this makes it to Court ? We might find out the truth? Well see.
The same lizzo who doxxed a doordash driver? And y'all are surprised?😂😂😂
I don't believe anything was done to harm them. I think what she did wrong is befriend them and start hanging with them like girl friends. Now they want to act like cry babies and seem sour they were fired.
There's a fine line between demanding hard work and bullying.
The lawsuit will destroy Lizzo once and for all. I am sure that her lawyers advised her to settle out of court.
I bet if Lizzo was a man everyone that’s defending her would’ve been saying he’s guilty lmfao
Watching these videos I just realized that Lizzo has absolutely *no* diversity in her dancer at all.
And these ladies waiting until they get more information? Should have applied that to all the men they "cancelled". We need to stop worshipping human beings.
It's always these nicey-nicey celebs who turn out to be monsters behind the scenes (think Ellen, James Corden, Will Smith, etc.)
Azealia Banks vindicated once again 😍
You are correct!
She has been calling many of these celebrities out! It’s kinda hilarious
Maybe we’re all the crazy ones and she’s the only sane person 😂
She’s crazy but she doesn’t lie
Oh crap, I missed what A.B. said. She calls everyone out and hasn't been wrong yet 😮
Speaking from an entertainment industry lens: Who is/will be hiring these people as dancers for anything anytime soon? I feel they were happy to be on a big ticket and they are having trouble moving on. Power dynamics can also be an employer afraid of their employees suing them.
This
I didn’t want to be that person but I just like to ponder all scenarios. This is very plausible and I believe the truth is in the middle. We’ll see
Totally agree. I’m sure they already are having issues getting jobs as dancers due to their size and now this. No other artist will want to work with them.
They came out from Lizzo reality tv to find big girl dancers so no history of professional work. I think the truth is in the middle.
Of course, they were happy to be on a big ticket. But surely didn't expect to be mistreated by someone they thought was positive and understanding. I can only imagine their feelings of betrayal.
These women want to sue for personal feelings not actual workplace sexual harassment and discrimination. Weak sauce.
This is the cult you helped build 🤷🏽♂️
Would u say that if a man had these allegations?
@@stylencash still weak
Even if it is true she didn’t hit her and they can absolutely say no
When are we finally going to accept that we ALL have Layers and we are flawed...Disapointing but hopefully these ladies have good legal representation. Lets hope this can be a long run learning experience for Lizzo, maybe address some demons yet to be dealt with, etc. She can grow from this and be better, and i hope she can.
I’m trying to remember the last time anyone referred to allegations against a man being a “learning experience”.
@@jacksoncowsert6964 in this case, i don't think despite these allegations, that Lizzo is so out of it that she can't take responsibility and recognize other feelings. Do I think it would be treated differently if it was a man? Many men deny, lie and or denigrate victims feelings...even after evidence is presented. To me, that's what makes it worse for people. All anyone of us ever ask is validate our discomfort and feelings. Get in fron t of it, recognize what happned even if you didnt mean it, etc. If she can do that! If others can do that Then there is hope
@@snoopysnoops007 Fat or Fit people would criticize her no matter what...sad fact but non the less
Plot twist: Lizzo IS a demon
@@BroadwayBabyyy744 I think it’s called equal opportunity having the same rights as men and that’s where Lizzo is. Women can do this just as easy as American they’re arresting, female teachers for having sex with their students. Now we are now equal offenders. I hope everyone is proud.
I remember the dancer in the middle from Whatch Out for the Big Girlzzz. I'm not shocked that she would be on here saying this stuff because her personality never really fit w Lizzo's. She seemed a bit prudish and Lizzo is anything but so I could see her being uncomfortable out partying w her, and I can see Lizzo getting annoyed w her. Lizzo seems like she could have a mean streak and is probably a bit too casual w her dancers and staff. I do hope she bounces back frok this cuz i think some of this might be a bit conflated. Some of it I believe, some I'm taking w a grain of salt.
Lizzo always talks body positivity one day and cries and shows how insecure she is the next day on social media. Lizzo needs therapy and to be held accountable. I was not surprised by these allegations. I do believe innocent until proven guilty.
Most people who believe, “in this body positivity movement “are full of crap. Many fat people specifically fat girls say this to make themselves feel good but if you ask a lot of them privately they will tell you they want to be skinny or small. And the problem is when you’re promoting such a very unhealthy lifestyle you lash out at people in Ways You never knew existed.
Lizzo and accountability go together like Kieth Richards and sobriety.
Shes unstable because shes fake. It takes more effort to play a role and less to just be real. She played a role, its called show biz!
@@MrMalcolm900you said a mouth full of truth!!!
It’s wild how much they emphasize “allegedly” and “wait for all the info in court” here but any other day they are sarcastically reading the legal notes and laughing
Everybody can't handle celebrity status!! Maturity doesn't come with age it comes with experience. Your gift can take you places where your character want keep you!
Lizzo is an oppressed large black woman, I call BS.
Why do people believe all of this? They're obviously lying and they hate the fact that they're fired and they're not getting good mulah anymore. People loce to hate celebrities because they're MAD JEALOUS!
FYI I am not a lizzo fan and I believe those girls are just pissed at Lizzo they're only telling part of a story Lizzo and the girls fell out and now they want to take her down... Lizzo was looking for plus size women to go on tour with her so please those allegations doesn't stand .. they're just pissed because they got let go and couldn't perform the dance moves so they want to say oh she cut me because of how I look. No that's how you feel about yourself she cut you because you couldn't do what you were hired to do. So please go have several seats you knew what you were getting yourself into and you took the job knowing you were not about that life... So pretty much they basically lied on their application
Whoppi tends to have strong opinions whenever she hears any rumor about Trump, but when it's Lizzo, suddenly it's "wait and see." 😂
Well there is a logical reason for that- trump’s character/reputation has been around a very long time and precedes itself.
Lizzo on the other hand - this is a first- so let’s wait and see just means we have stuff to learn with her. She hasn’t been around long enough to truly know
@@Danuta628 Either you're consistent with that logic or you aren't. There's multiple allegations against Lizzo that Sarah brought up. It's not the first and that's factually incorrect. Azealia Banks has also made allegations in the past about Lizzo
If you can’t see Trump’s fact whose putting his ego and party before this beautiful country, your crying for and trashing others for then your comparison is mind blowing.
@@Danuta628 I dislike Trump and his family, but I don't believe everything I hear just because he's slimey or has a history. That's nonsense. I'm consistent with everyone. I can't believe I have to say that lol
@@jacquelineotto4148 No, you're biased and choose when to implement logic. Doesn't matter what you think of Trump, either you're consistent with your morals and logic, or keep it shut! Different rules for others is hypocritical
Extra large female performers who belittle her staff are just the best. Love her
If she loved herself she wouldnt belittle anybody.
In the entertainment industry, I imagine anything can happen on tour. Remember Madonna's Truth or Dare?
Alyssa a Lizzo fan? Right and my name is J. Edgar Hoover! LOL
People need to understand their is a line of professionalism at WORK! People at work are not your personal friends and that is where the blurred lines start. Yes you can become friends with those at WORK but even that you still must tread lightly cuz not everybody is for you and your private space. And if this is true Lizzo and her execs need a leadership and ethics course because this behavior just is not accepted at all places. Yes it's her brand and her company but if you're running it like the wild west people will leave in droves and snitch on the way out so...js
Not the wild Wild West lol
@@newflower8974 Lol for real though
Nobody knows until they know - Whoopi Goldberg
Well that's....kind of true haha
Whoopi is willing to give Lizzo the benefit of the doubt because Lizzo is a woman. If Lizzo was a man. She definitely wouldn't be giving him, the benefit of the doubt.
The same approach she took with Bill Cosby.
Women can be predators also. The same way we hold men accountable we need to normalize holding women accountable!
Joy talking about hypocritical and kosher
Give me strength lol
I want to be clear celebrities, especially in the US, are treated like gods and goddesses. These people never hear the word no. I have seen stars at New York Airport, Los Angeles Airport, and London's Heathrow. How they talk about us, the fans to their personal assistant, will shock you.
Saying you felt unsafe, your conscious said to run etc is not a legal case. The directors statement is so broad and vague
Did she say she was going to sue her? Tell me!! I’m still waiting
Exactly she just spoke like others are speaking that also quit! You silly Willy
@@javiruiz8365did he say she was going to sue her. NO. Calm tf down
The director isn't the one suing her. She is just sharing her experience.
The first thing I thought is we need context.
I've worked for a person who was disrespectful and verbally abusive numerous times to me... and after a while I walked out! I left him overwhelmed with all with MY job responsibilities, an impending personal move, business/ client and relationship issues! 🤗
It was one of the best days of my life, because my mental health was more important than another paycheck from him! 🤗
KARMA did make a VISIT to him... he lost the rest of his staff, his business closed, he got a reputation of being "difficult", and his relationship ended! 🤗
Nothing to Gain!!! Lol 😂😂😂
I believe them
You think she was the only singer Ever who held the dancer to a certain weight standard? 😅well okay
Lizzo crying about fat shaming done to her but she’s using her body to cause others harm
1:13 Alyssa even looks like Lizzoso no wonder she loves her so much.
I will save judgment until all the facts are presented. We live in a day and time where people will do or say anything for a check. Whoever is telling the truth deserves justice, whether it is the former employees or Lizzo.
Yes. This is why infomercials are rampant.
Well said
Pl vv😢😢😢🎉
This panel has always used poor judgement when it comes to Lizzo, primarily because shes a large black woman. From the beginning you could tell she doesnt give a crap about anybody when she exposed her disgusting *ss at a Lakers game. Not a bit surprised if she did what she's accused of. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift has been the model of class throughout her long career.
“It’s fat bi**h o’clock, it’s thick thirty”
Body positivity is just a facade. No one that size is happy about themselves.
There is no surprise here. Lizzo has shown on stage anytime she has a speech that she is not a nice person and she very verbally violent including systematically cursing. This case doesn’t sound good but hey…
Have you attended any of her concerts?
Lizzo out here projecting her insecurities on others. I’m not judging because I don’t know Lizzo personally but she seems really cantankerous. I hope corporate America will respond with the same energy they used on Jonathan Majors allegations.
She's a loser. She wants you to lie to yourself about your whole life. She's just a singer that wants to kill herself.
You nailed it she’s projecting her insecurities
Ironic that when men are accused there's no let's see how it all pans out or wait for more information. Instantly it's they're guilty.
The fact that each of these girls are way smaller than Lizzo makes the body shamming thing outrageous.
My mom worked at a womens clothing store for decades - all female employees including the store manager and always used to tell me hellish stories of the often intolerable toxic work environment with the catfighting, psychological/mental abuse, and backstabbing going on etc. She often wished there was a male store manager to run the shop for some order and civility!
Yes, I agree, having experienced this in the workplace and personally. It’s like high school behavior with the cliques, and if there is a bully among them, watch out! If you are an individual and true to yourself or you are in any way different from the group, watch out!
They also seem to think inappropriate behavior is ok because "we're all girls here". I worked at a store where all the female employees were asked for their bra size by the manager & I didn't feel like I could say no.
Hurt people hurt people!!! Lizzo is severely insecure and her bravado on stage is a cover. Praying she really heals from the inside out.
If the allegations are right, she needs to be in jail. Say no to predatory, abusive, manipulative, narcissistic celebs.
@@superkalafragilistic8289Its a civil case probably ends with a settlement.
I’m going to be honest Lizzo is weird and gross on TikTok after watching one of her videos I stopped watching it. Because it was so odd and I believe these women like she is immature and if she wants to be better she should take accountability for her actions.
If the Depp v Heard trial taught us anything, it's to wait for the facts to come out in court before taking sides. I'm saving my opinions for when I have all the facts, not just the allegations.
Anyone find it ironic that Whoopi says to reserve judgement in this case but calls someone racist based on her opinion?
I totally believe the accusations based on the way she behaves. She is arrogant, self centered and completely diluted.
love when karma is SERVED
Why is whoopi wearing glasses? I thought she didn’t need to anymore
Everybody needs glasses when they age
@@msch7620 she got surgery and said she didn’t need them anymore
@@chloer2584 she probably had surgery for being able to see far. Everybody needs glasses to read when they age. If you are short sighted, the only way to not need glasses to read would be to operate only one eye and leave the other as is and read with one read and see far from the other one. If you don’t have surgery and you are short sighed, you just need to lift your glasses to read close. Because what you lose as you age is the ability for your eyes to adapt from close to far vision.
I don't trust ultra positive people, there's a persona they want to portray. To me, they're hinding or covering something. I believe the dancers, not because of hard proof or data, I just feel they're being honest. By the way, aren't they suing for 75k? Like, that's nothing. Imagine splitting that between 2 other people and the lawyers. It must be a lawsuit made in the name of justice.
Watched the reality show, and one of the people making the allegation was an outstanding dancer and personality from the beginning of the show. While this will go to court, the truth is, this is their personal story, and it seems Lizzo felt she was above and beyond, and probably felt it was okay to treat the dancers badly. People in a high position of power forget what it was like to be the common person, and abuse their position of power.