Reuse & Upgrade your SRAM AXS mech to go XPLR
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2024
- Ratio Technology are based right here in Kendal and make superb problem solving items to keep SRAM parts more usable as the upgrade to 12 speed swept in. Today, Tom introduces his latest product.
Upgrade a 33t Max SRAM AXS Rear Derailleur to a 45t Max XPLR option with the use of a new cage, and a new b-limit plate.
You can also reinforce and replace a normal XPLR mech with the Ratio Cage.
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Love what these guys are doing. It's great that they're so focused on keeping your kit going.
Been running XPLR with 48/35 &10/44 for over 20,000 km, its works perfectly, shifts sweetly,chain - front ring-cassette wear all normal
Dangerous gamble- but it's ok, I made one too. I had a Red AXS derailleur 33t and only one 10-30 Rival Cassette. So I paired it with a 10-36t cassette, and paired it both 1x and 2x for CX racing, and while it's kind of sketchy I suppose, it still shifts very well. It just has to be a very well set up derailleur as far as settings. Within a quarter turn everywhere. And alignment settings have to be nearly perfect.
Were you able to pair the AXS XPLR to a front AXS derailleur? Thinking about converting my 10-36 AXS to something bigger 10-44 but want to be able to run 46-33 in the front if I take the bike out on the road. Love to hear how you did it. Thanks
This is true sustainability, awesome content as usuall
Amazing skill and knowledge! I love seeing people excel and invent products they know work and people will need/use.
Love Ratio tech. I still have their original mod (Apex 1 HYDRO R to 12s Eagle GX) That setup has migrated from a hard used Gravel bike down to my commuter, it still works flawlessly and indexing is a breeze. Crazy really that 12 speed mechanical on drop levers has only just become something you can get from a "big name" and I've been zipping around on it for almost half a decade. And all that time "the industry" was still telling everyone with a straight face that 12's mechanical was not possible/viable (until it was) and nobody was trying to force E-Shifting on you.
Love E-shifting BTW I'm just not one of those "you can never go back" people and I like to have options.
I love Ratio tech. I have an account with them and I'm a massive fan. It's super cool what they are doing, and I've been watching them closely. I'm SO glad to see these new parts are on the way. As a mechanic of a tiny shop that doesn't get a ton of attention, I STILL frequently get questions about if this kind of thing is even possible. Now, with the development of these products, I can tell them about the great company of Ratio Tech for yet another awesome product!
Looks like ratio should step it up and produce the complete set up👍
comparing them to fraezen derailleurs which are made out of the same material and are CnC machined aswell your prices are really fair with princing!!! Well done Ratio!
I jumped on their 12 speed conversion as soon as it was released. Still being used and it’s fantastic. Lighter than axs if that bothers you.
Fair play! I have 2 AXS bikes and 2 Mechanical CX1 bikes- once I get XDR freehubs for all my wheels, I will be getting those kits.
I’ve completely moved over to AXS now other than this one bike with the RT kit. Another thing that they make which is awesome, is the cam plate - SRAM CX1 reach mechs can’t take big cassettes . You can change the pull ratio of an SRAM MTB rear mech to work with road shifters buy swapping the plastic cam plate where the cable feeds into the rear mech. This means you can run a GX XX1 or whatever MTB mech with a big cassette and road shifters - you don’t need the RT apart, you can swap it off of a busted CX1 rear mech if you have one. @@diehardbikes
Bought one of their kits for my sram rival 1x gravel bike as wanted more range, really well made easy to install now with a 52t rear makes the lakes hills a breeze
Hey Paul really liking the content these days
I also had the yellow skin problem with my camera Xd. Check the settings :). Brilliant products, great info:)
I built my gravel bike in 2019 and the ratio mod wasn't an option at the time so built the bike with an 11 speed garbaruk cassette and cage and I couldn't get it to work correctly, 2 months later purchased a sram eagle cassette, derailleur and done the ratio shifter mod, it was a life saver!
The only other option at the time was XO1 AXS with AXS road shifters, it was going to cost me thousands to swap out the shifter, derailleur etc. also I didn't want electric shifting at all.
Can’t wait for the replacement Rival Xplr derailleur cage and a future 33 to 36 mech hanger.
Would be great if we could get this kit across the pond. Been looking at fitting XLPR on my alu bike to replace the existing APEX mechanical.
Thanks for asking question on 33T max to 36T. Was thinking the same thing. That said, with the 35T chainring on SRAM it may be a little extreme.
Great video as always and you’ve hopefully just saved me £000’s telling me about Ratio Technology as I was just thinking about pulling the trigger on a sram 12 speed system to upgrade from 11 😎
Ive just fit their 12spd kit to my sram rival was a really easy swap and made easy by the youtube vid on how to change the ratchet 👌
I'm glad you saw this video too! Not enough people know about this totally underrated company!
So for the fred whitton, I’ve been testing 2x10-44 and it works fine. So road bike with 46- 33 crankset, normal rival front mech, sram rival sifters, Xplr 10-44 cassette and 44t xplr mech. Works fine. Wish I knew about this company though would have saved me buy another mech.
Love what these guys are doing!
I am not much of a fan of these massive laser etched logos and stuff on their parts, same with Hope Tech so I'd assume it's something brits just like.
the thing is... with international shipping and taxes I almost get a used Rival or Force RD for the same price.
so more likely a heavy duty upgrade
The big logo is a nogo...
first I would do is some acetone action :P
That's awesome. I would like to have one to just to bling up the mech a bit.
On my list to buy convert my force 1x11 standard to 52t cog for cx/gravel/general outdoor bike with mechanical disc. Taking care of getting a new fork first to replace one cut to short for me. Fork ordered and on the way so then on to draivetrain with shorter crank length, more gears in back with better climbing, and 12 speed upgrade. Get the emails as I have account with them. Pay attention to pound to dollar conversion rate is key for outside UK if you want ratio technology. Love that they have different colors for unique bike looks.
When is the Axs cage and extender going to be available. I'm assuming it will also work with the 11-36 force axs derailleur to allow it to run xplr casettes
Like gravel tires fit on 29” MTB rims I’m rocking that now
What would be awesome would be a way to make XPLR cassettes work with an Eagle drivetrain. It is so frustrating that SRAM made them incompatible via different chain spacing for no performance benefit. Then yoy could run the Eagle 10x50 mullet for gravel and a 10x44 XPLR for road without needing different rear mechs and chains.
So what about turning a 36T max derailleur into an XPLR one?
Does the sram red 10-33 cassette work with force xplr rear derailleur?
Can I ask if you guys have any knowledge of KX Wheels from Bob Elliot? Following on from my question yesterday where you suggested a 36h wheel would be more appropriate than my Giant GX wheels , I've been given a choice by my LBS to pay £165 for a new wheel (good price but impossible for me rn) or £65 for a rebuild of the GX.
However, I see KX Wheels (rear) on sale for £60 with generic 36h hub, or £90 with 32h Deore 525 hub. Are these pure junk or more likely the better choice vs rebuilding the GX?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions, and of course the interesting videos!
I don’t recall specifically saying 36h, but this is a good solution. I doubt that £65 rebuild includes spokes. I would go for the bob elliot wheel. It’s not really any better, but it is new and not corroded or fatigued. The Deore hub will be easier to service in the future.
@@MapdecThanks again! your perspective on this is really appreciated! The £65 price was based on £1.50 per spoke + £20something base labour price, I guess I live in a relatively poor, low wage area in a rural county.
You are right, you didn't say 36h in your previous reply, I obviously conflated that with what the LBS replied with, that's what they suggested for the £165 wheel.
Thank you for getting Ratio Tech on the channel. I love what they are doing for making not just upgrades but replacement parts. They saved my 11s Force 1 shifter last year when SRAM wouldn't. And I love their creative thinking about what can be re-used, upgraded, etc. (Shameless plug for the video I did about the repair czcams.com/video/Ef1pdCRaeaw/video.html)
Interesting my max 33 works fine on my 36 cassette, no extender required!
Would Ratio consider expanding their 8-bolt chainring range down to the 32t and 30t sizes. 34t on the chainring isn't quite small enough for those of us running 1x12 touring bikes, even when using a 52t cassette. We touring cyclists only ever coast downhill, so 30t is more than large enough for high speed. Only the low end matters for us.
This should be possible with the MTB chainrings
@@Mapdec Any MTB chainrings with 6mm or 8.5mm offset to get correct chainline on a road crank?
That cage would look nice on my bike. Can you fit it while it's in with you? 🙏🏻😀
Call the shop. I don’t know which is yours eek. 😳.
@@Mapdec Only joking with you. Blue wouldn't go with the green steel gravel bike you have in.
Do they do a version for campagnolo 8 to 9 speed?
No. And well done for keeping that going. Must be 20 years old now.
@@Mapdec i think they are missing a trick. All those old shifters do start to get worn springs and indexing. But the parts can be hard to find, I would be willing to pay silly money to keep my shifters running.
Showing blue but on the website its either silver or black
This is an early prototype. Looking for people’s interest before they go into production.
Quite confused by your saying you can't buy spare cages - official replacements are fifty quid as far as I can see.
That’s just the inner cage. For road stuff the cage attached to the mech is either not produced separately or rarely available
2x XPLR!?!?!?
Its coming
I'm looking to use SRAM red 22 with SRAM gx rear derailleur to make a gravel set up but as I got SRAM red 22 spare
@@mlee6050 my CX bike(one of like, 5,) has Sram Red 22 shifters and a Force CX1 derailleur. Swapping the internals to 12 speed would be a sweet upgrade, as my main 2 bikes are AXS bikes. But I need XDR bodies for my wheels first.
I’ve already done it, works great
@@diehardbikes I didn't know any other derailleur that work
List (all bikes that have 11 speed groupset I'm keeping as 11 speed, 10 speed is as last longer before replace chain)
Planet x rtd 90 with SRAM red etap (6.7kg if spent more could be 6.4kg and support 110kg)
To do (in maybe next 10 years)
Trek Emonda ALR with Sram red etap axs (7.3kg when horn, bell, computer and lights on, didn't remember before them weight)
Trek Slash gen 5 with SRAM eagle xo1 (12.5kg Enduro mountain bike)
Boardman adv 8.9 (only bike I'm buying in last 14 years then upgrading as hate Shimano on drop bars) (gravel bike, aiming maybe 9-10kg so between Trek Emonda ALR and Trek Slash weight)
Folding bike 20" with Shimano taigra (sub 7.3kg)
Fixie with SRAM hydraulic rim brakes (8kg)
Bülk mk1 with SRAM red etap (looking more as a safety feature so remove battery so can't change gear)