Andretti Drop BOMBSHELL On F1!
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Andretti Drop BOMBSHELL On F1!
It feels like just yesterday we were going to post a video explaining the strengths of the Andretti bid to enter F1, how they were continuing to push on with preparations to demonstrate they will be a strong addition to the paddock and will be able to keep up pretty convincingly, perhaps even surpassing the dregs of the grid in short order… Oh wait that was yesterday. That’s. Right, woe is us, we had a video within 5 percent of uploading because we firmly believed that nobody who truly cared about the Fans, the sport or the quality of the grid could possibly turn down the Andretti bid. So why then did they get turned down? Surely FOM, liberty and the teams have a rock solid case that is not at all translucent and dismissive? Well, if you ask Andretti, members of the paddock and most importantly the fans, that does not appear to be the case at ALL.
Want to know why the Andretti bid got rejected? If you want to believe the reasoning feel free, but we think it’s a load of hogwash! And stick around, because some members of the paddock think Andretti is going to hit back HARD.
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If only Andretti was a middle east oil money backed team. The red carpet would go around the track.
YEP! They love playing in sandboxes.
You do realise liberty media is an American owned company. It's more the existing teams don't want to share the prize money
Who owns General Motors?
A US anti trust lawsuit would grab some attention as F1 is desperate for US exposure.
@@stephensegal5187 The Democrat Party
I was 17 years old the first time I met Mario at Pocono in '88. The man is a Prince, could not have been more gracious. I cannot fathom the disrespect to him and his family.
If its the power unit that is the issue, then there should only be 4 teams currently.
Saying that Andretti would not be competitive, is hogwash.
100% agree but i also think there's pressure from top manufactures behind closed doors and given Ferrari's history i'd guarantee they're probably at the top of the list of teams fighting to keep this from happening. the money behind Andretti and Cadillac would make them a podium competitor within a couple years and none of the major teams want that. just look at what the teams did to team Haas when they followed every single rule set in front of them then decided to change the rules knowing they'd never have the funding to be competitive again.
I'm not a fan of Andretti but the F1 decision is total bs. They deserve a chance. If there's no room, kick out Haas, since THEY ARE REALLY NOT F***ING COMPETITIVE!
😂😂😂😂
Exactly! Give someone else a shot. Make things interesting. Alpine is another underperforming team as well.
He isn't competing with Haas for a spot.
Haas supported F1 when they needed - Andretti didn't
@@yt.personal.identification the only reason Haas went into F1 was due to the budget team rule changes that were put in place to allow teams like Haas to join F1 and then they promptly changed those rules after their first active season. Haas is so deep in the hole at this point that trying to leave F1 will cost more than just throwing it away keeping the team active.
@@sirmonkey1985 If that was the case he would have sold at a profit when the Voljsqagen group made an offer.
It's ridiculous i bet Bernie would have let them in. They forget that us fan's pay all their wages
of course he woukd have...and even if he had been against it initially, a well packed brown envelope would have taken care of it ;)
Wrong, there are 10 teams who divide the money earned through F1, if an 11 team is added there is less for the other 10 teams.
@@heindiebels6736 there were 12 teams back in 2012, no reason other than greed preventing it now
@@heindiebels6736 And according to article 8.6 of the F1 regulations for 2019, 26 cars can be admitted to the championship.
The EU made Bernie sell commercial rights because it broke competition law so what you said couldn't happen.
FIA approved them, which means they meet sporting regulations for F1. They could also slap F1 with an anti-trust lawsuit for restricting competition.
Andretti definitely got legs in a court battle.
Guarantee Andretti will sue.
I agree 💯
🔥💯
Can you slap the NFL with anti competition?
@@yt.personal.identification depends. they are a legal trust, but that comes with certain restrictions, and if they act outside of them they can! (they can also be nailed if they suppress other leagues)
It's because the current 10 teams do not want to share the prize pool with an 11th team, it's so obvious. They have spent so long with 10 teams in F1 and have got used to the amount of money they all share in the prise pool. Also being put to shame may have something to do with it
I call BS that Andretti couldn't be competitive.
If you read the reasons behind the decision it makes sense, they would build a car with no experience, no real understanding of the data from windtunnel, ontop of building around a custom engine they bought lastminute? and then redo everything to try and be competetive years later? it makes no sense saying they would be, and andretti would gain more from it than F1 and its governing structure ontop of extra costs for every track building extra hangar garages etc.
not sure if you are daft or anything but it totaly makes sense that someone who never built an F1 car, never read or had upgrades produced, they dont even understand the car because they have no car to be competitive within 365days with testing,building,hireing,getting drivers, them used to car, set up a simulator etc etc? please dont be arrogant. 2026 could be a stretch but 2028 seems normal if they really want to be in F1 and do it right.
That's what being a new team is about. They'd still get to develop staff, facilities and get
a feel for the car they want to develop. No team has ever been demanded to be
winners out of the gate accept this the Andretti bid.@@AntisnakeYT
@@AntisnakeYT Yeah because none of that applies in any of the other racing series they run in.
Look. The reason you talk about having very little time for development is complete BS. Haas did the same back in 2016 and rule changed in 2017. They constructed two cars and were fine with it. While bad car development is a possibility, it's not a reason. It is the same as you are not allowed to have surgery because you may die from the surgery.
And guess what, they also use ferrari's custom engine. They have time to have a head start as there is rule which states that current F1 team cannot develop the car 2 years ahead. This is trying to level the playing field.
Also, no one was competitive straight away. The team license that red bull inherited from Stewart F1 was not competitive at all when they started. Andretti is extremely experienced and passionate in car racing. They won indycar, IMSA, formula E races and championships. They are more experienced. They also have big support from GM. If they are also not good enough of a profile, you may as well just state that F1 bar from all competitions and not accept any new team no matter what.
@@artie8561 Right on Artie. These are some of the points I was thinking about. They have teams in so many forms of racing and have a multitude of experience in being competitive. They already have a prototype F1 car. Andretti didn't just wake up one day and say "I think we should race in F1" They have been planning this for many years. For those who missed out, another user @AntisnakeYT posted a reply saying that the decision made sense. It was such an arrogant post. He then tells me to "not be arrogant" When all I said was the decision was BS in my original post. He rambled on about why it made sense. I swear he took the words from another video he saw on CZcams. He then tries to insult me by calling me "daft" He doesn't know what he is talking about in F1.
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F1 and Liberty made this decision, not the FIA. The management of F1 think they are elite and probably have their pockets filled with money from the other teams. The other teams whine that they will get less money at the end of the season, which is true, but I think they are afraid that Andretti would make a formidable challenger. Andretti is not going to just accept this and will fight. I am 100% behind them. We need another American team in F1. They want the American market, but not willing to actually make F1 more exciting by having the top teams and drivers competing with each other. Red Bull ran away with it in 2023. That was boring. The only good race of the season was Las Vegas. RB won but there was some exciting racing. That is what fans want to see.
Its a business and FOM have acted like a cartel, likely in breach of European law. The moment they said no, I said they will lose the inevitable legal challenge.
If they want the US market denying a US based team won't help
They only want the US money. Not a US team
If you read the reasons behind the decision it makes sense, they would build a car with no experience, no real understanding of the data from windtunnel, ontop of building around a custom engine they bought lastminute? and then redo everything to try and be competetive years later? it makes no sense saying they would be, and andretti would gain more from it than F1 and its governing structure ontop of extra costs for every track building extra hangar garages etc.
not sure if you are daft or anything but it totaly makes sense that someone who never built an F1 car, never read or had upgrades produced, they dont even understand the car because they have no car to be competitive within 365days with testing,building,hireing,getting drivers, them used to car, set up a simulator etc etc? please dont be arrogant. 2026 could be a stretch but 2028 seems normal if they really want to be in F1 and do it right.
@@AntisnakeYT I don't disagree and furthermore, the argument that using "parts" from other competitors (such as power train components and such) would create possible issues ( reverse engineering their technology) as Andretti are developing their own designs.
Where F1 missed the mark in my opinion is that it was just rejected outright. Why not conditionally approve beginning in '28 when the new regulations come out? It would enable them to develop things to where they can come right out and be competitive (hiring long time F1 staff).
@@timburr7216 This is a reasonable comment.
@scsmith4604 The new Homologation begins in 2026, not 2028. 2028 is when Cadillac will have Their power unit ready to supply both a Works Team as well as would be Customers....
I thought F1 wanted to grow in the USA, well they seem to have put the mockers on that if they won’t let an all American team enter.
Andretti should buy Circuit of the America's and lock the gates when F1 comes to race! Or better yet host indycar at circuit of the America's on the f1 dates!
You have a team that is Absolutely gonna push to win while there is an existing team that has all but stated openly that they arent even trying and are happy to just be there. it is sickening
It’s very sad they are not allowing the Andretti team, look at all the work they have done so far. Big Big Mistake
They are making by saying no to Andretti. 🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🚫🏎️
Seems to be that those that are not allowing Andretti/Cadillac entrance Our simply afraid of real competition.
If you read the reasons behind the decision it makes sense, they would build a car with no experience, no real understanding of the data from windtunnel, ontop of building around a custom engine they bought lastminute? and then redo everything to try and be competetive years later? it makes no sense saying they would be, and andretti would gain more from it than F1 and its governing structure ontop of extra costs for every track building extra hangar garages etc.
not sure if you are daft or anything but it totaly makes sense that someone who never built an F1 car, never read or had upgrades produced, they dont even understand the car because they have no car to be competitive within 365days with testing,building,hireing,getting drivers, them used to car, set up a simulator etc etc? please dont be arrogant. 2026 could be a stretch but 2028 seems normal if they really want to be in F1 and do it right.
@@AntisnakeYT Exactly this. Spot on.
lol
What a huge black eye for F1 with this decision. I have been watching F1 since the late 70's, and this terrible decision has made me more angry than I have been with F1 in 40 years.
Than don't watch and follow. And watch the American races.
Why didn't Chev propose a full factory works team?
How can they say that the team wouldn't be competitive? The would not know. I say give Andretti a chance
let'em race !!!
good go for it andretti
As a Brit who's watched F1 since the late 70s, I hope Andretti takes FOM and Liberty Media to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and win.
There is no valid reason that Andretti should not be allowed to, join or participate in F1.
In fact, Andretti would help to enhance the F1 brand in the US, especially with more North American races appearing on the calendar.
So no actual bombshell. Typical trash youtube bait titles.
It's motorsports, not a boys club. Let the American prove his worth.
Then Chev can propose a team
It's a rich boys club.
Its all about the current teams keeping ALL the money
It’s the other 10 teams that are blocking. An 11th team will mean less $$ going to them.
with the amount of prize money that teams receive increasing dramatically year over year this is a pointless statement. There wouldnt be that big of a decrease. look at the nimbers for prize money over the last decade. its not a stagnant number thats been the same. so its not like they would instead of getting 500 million or whatever it would now be 400. it would likely stay around the same but they are greedy cause the extra that they would get for 2024 wouldnt be as big as it could be. It all boils down to greed and a seemingly Bias against a true american team
I've never actually seen anyone actually use "Catch 22" as an written argument until now.
You need to be competitive to join F1.
To prove you're competitive you need to race
We're not going to allow you to race because your not competitive
Logic of Catch 22
The archetypal catch-22, as formulated by Joseph Heller, involves the case of John Yossarian, a U.S. Army Air Forces bombardier, who wishes to be grounded from combat flight.
This will only happen if he is evaluated by the squadron's flight surgeon and found "unfit to fly".
"Unfit" would be any pilot who is willing to fly such dangerous missions, as one would have to be mad to volunteer for possible death.
However, to be evaluated, he must request the evaluation, an act that is considered sufficient proof for being declared sane.
These conditions make it impossible to be declared "unfit".
F1 is fueled by the fans, I am a lifelong F1 fan since the Senna era, and I would love to see Andretti on the grid. I have only the highest of respect for them. Push On Mario, Michael and Marco!
I expect Andretti to file charges both in the Eu for under not competative rules and in the US for Violation of Sherman Anti-trust act. I expect Andreddi to enter in 2025 with Disoultion payment waved as a penality
Why?
Is the NFL anti competitive?
@@yt.personal.identification Has the NFL turned down Expansion? Nope in fact in my lifetime the NFL has already expanded twice. The NFL has also not tried to stop the other football leagues like the USFL, XFL, and AFL from trying their hand at running a football league. So you actually picked a really bad example there.
@@Darsam88 F1 has expanded many times.
The NFL decides when they will accept teams.
How is that different?
@@Darsam88 F1 has not tried to stop any other racing formats.
You picked a total strawman argument
@@yt.personal.identification you picked the strawman yourself, F1 is blocking 1 of the biggest Racing brands in the world for competitiveness and concerns that Andretti is trying to grow their image off F1. As if a Racing company that has won Championships and runs some of the most successful teams in almost every other motorsport needs to grow it's brand more. Teams are just being greedy even though Andretti has met every demand that the F1 Teams have set in the bylaws to be able to compete.
Not too mention that Andretti helped grow the brand of F1 as a driver and is one of the most recognizable names in the world of racing.
Let's see, what's important to Liberty Media (BTW, a media company). 1. Implementing street races in high profile cities and resorts that the teams, drivers, and spectators don't like just for the show. Adds no value to the racing product. 2. Promoting, highlighting and allowing unlimited access to mega Hollywood (media) and sports stars during the pre and post race broadcast. The ticket buying fans get nothing, also adds no value to the racing product. 3. Deny access to new teams, technology, drivers, and ideas which maintains the status-quo which adds no value to the racing. Pretty simple, showbiz and money is all Liberty Media wants. Left F1 two years ago and am not coming back.
For the 8% HAAS Is not ready and has not been ready from their second season
I'm not sure why you are showing Bin Suleyim as the bad guy in the footage. This is a Liberty/F1 issue. You need to be more careful with your editing.
Facts!
I think cause all sand chooms are just evil in general
You couldn't be more incorrect since Bin Sulayem took up his post as president of the FIA relations themm and the commericial rights holders has worsened . The only it will be resolved by having a new president of the FA or can I see F1 no longer remaining governing body of F1 .
@@RumblesBettr And yet he has achieved way more than you have.
@leeklass3907 I'm no fan of the FIA but they approved the Andretti entry so can't be held responsiblefor this one. F1 is complex and these sites "reporting" on it need to take some responsibility for the accuracy of the information they are sharing.
Needless to say F1’s decision to snub Andretti won’t be taken lightly by many American fans. Can’t help but feel F1 was intimidated by Andretti… an there’re so called reasons are bull shut!
Shame on F1 and the team bosses who worked to ensure this application was rejected. Christian Horner, Toto Wolff we are looking at you. Complete lack of respect for both the sport and the fans.
Shutdown all American Grand Prix.
Just leave COTA the rest is nonsense street circuits.
America is due to have 4 GP per year so we dont need nor care for another backmarker American Team. If there was a decent American Driver in F1 it would be different. Anybody remember a successful US driver in the past 40 years!?
@@alimantado373 The Eurotrash is scared of Andretti/General Motors.
Yeh there's plenty of better tracks in better countrys
Yes let's get back to better tracks like Hockenheim tracks like that
Just boycott them
Will Audi be compettive in 2026? Are Haas competitive?
They dropped hamiton-ferrari to take attention from
But yet those teams that keep finishing in the bottom of the listings year after year can seem to keep their spot on the Formula 1 roster. How is that showing value to the championship? Look at Haas, 2 of the last 3 years in last and one of those with 0 point. Maybe F1 needs to look at the value some of those bottom teams are bringing to the sport and maybe consider pulling their spot it they can't mix it up better and place more points in the championship. If F1 only wants 10 teams then they should regulate the current ones with the same standard that is keeping Andretti out.
To say that because they wont be competitive is ridiculous. there are some teams that have been there for a long time and are still not competitive!! To expect a team to come in and be in the running for championships is a little ridiculous, especially when saying that because they likely wont be fighting for the championship is why they are being rejected. well if thats the case they need to boot a certain team out since they arent even trying to be competitive it seems
They could boot 7 teams and not change the percentages of whos winning. F1 has become a sport of rules change, one team figures it out early, team takes advantage and wins all the time, then they change the rules again so someone else gets the advantage. A truly competitive series would not have a single driver win almost every event in a season and never even be challenged.
Just excuses that's all. They've invested more into F1 than Haas has in the last two years, and they're not even on the grid.
Basically it's because the current teams and FOM don't want to share the money. That's all. It has nothing to do with sporting concerns. It's only due to greed and selfishness.
What's a fom 😂
@@_Diamond-Dog “Formula One Management”.
The laate, great, Charlie Whiting told me personally at the PRI Show in 2016 at Indy that F1 is setup to allow 24 cars to start, IE :12 teams. To say that F1 would bring more value to the Andretti brand than vice versa is ludicrous. Mario is an F1 driving champion. The Andretti Cadillac team would bring way more good will to the F1 brand so F1 blew it on this one (greed perhaps?) and I expect Andretti to take this several steps further in a legal battle. Even with Renault supplying the engines until the Cadillac is ready, it would be a big shot in the arm to have 2 Andrett cars on the starting grid in 2025/2026. This is a slap to the face of Andretti, period.
Correct me if I understood wrong but they talk about how they don’t want a team that can’t perform? Well then why keep HAAS around? Let them try if they can’t meet expectations then cut ties and
"nobody who cares about the quality of the grid could turn the andretti bid down" lol
Who actually believes the current teams had no say in this decision! Liberty just saying that to avoid anti competition laws.
They wrote that there wouldn't be enough space on the garages at the circuits, but they had for an Apple TV movie with Brad Pitt. This story is a total joke, Liberty. The quickest you understand that, the best is for everyone before Andretti will put his hands deeply in your pocket lol
If you read the reasons behind the decision it makes sense, they would build a car with no experience, no real understanding of the data from windtunnel, ontop of building around a custom engine they bought lastminute? and then redo everything to try and be competetive years later? it makes no sense saying they would be, and andretti would gain more from it than F1 and its governing structure ontop of extra costs for every track building extra hangar garages etc.
not sure if you are daft or anything but it totaly makes sense that someone who never built an F1 car, never read or had upgrades produced, they dont even understand the car because they have no car to be competitive within 365days with testing,building,hireing,getting drivers, them used to car, set up a simulator etc etc? please dont be arrogant. 2026 could be a stretch but 2028 seems normal if they really want to be in F1 and do it right.
Hope Andretti wins big
F1 is afraid that Andretti and Cadillac would run circles around the other teams.
If Andretti manages to get into F1, or any of the other F series for that matter, i might start watching it more.
If they get in ad dominate the field like the ca in indycar, imagin the drama and story lines that come from it. It would just show that American can play in other sports and not just home field races
F1 has clearly gone from being a prestigious motorsport to a gentlemen s club that needs a good spanking.
GM are not going to spend millions developing an engine that might not even get a slot in F1
F1’s statement is also a massive insult to Renault. Why wouldn’t they be able to use their engines for a bit?
Ok so they claim Andretti won't be competitive, yet Haas has proven to not be competitive and there's no thoughts about cutting them from the grid. So you know it's not about the racing, or catering to fans.
Then why did they not tell them up front that they were not accepting any new teams. All of their supposed reasons, should have been well known in advance and could have been passed to Andretti before large sums of money were spent to try and get in. Not a big proponent of lawsuits but this one should be in the bag.
Unlike Haas, who had LIMITED success only in NASCAR prior to Stewart joining that ownership and then joining F1, the Andretti Motorsports game is open wheel racing. They're already competitive in their main field of IndyCar and have partnered with Wayne Taylor Racing, another successful and competitive team in IMSA! But the open wheel experience at Andretti is the key. They know how to make those cars work in IndyCar, which is far more spec than F1, and I have no doubt they can do it in F1 with in house parts.
I have thought for a longtime that the F1 group have been pushing it with Andretti. They are still a sport, and covered by the
rules of competition and fair play. Their fake arguments/statements regarding Andretti won't hold up in court.
You don't appear to understand the FIA want them but the commerical rights holders dont
He never mentioned FIA et said F1
F1 should open 3 new team slots and extend the prize pool to the top 12 constructors while changing the point system to top 15 finishers in a GP.. this will make F1 a better sport..
Nah too pointless. Let Andretti in and leave everything the same. It's just two extra cars and the fact that the midfield has more to lose might make those fights more exciting. If anything you can -1 for DNF's lol.
At first, I sort of understood the decision on them not being able to compete right away, like due to the Renault engine. But, then I asked myself, then why have Renault engine at all? Either they are potentially competitive or not
Fear of losing to Andretti is the only real reason for the rejection!
If they had 30 car grids I might be interested in F1.
Where is the court case being held? Not all court rooms are held the same way as the US overseas. They should be in caddy has the engineers and talent pool. Good luck to them. I personally would love to see them. My gut says they would be competitive. Who was competitive with Red Bull last year? F1 fan since the 70's
Andretti needs to be on the grid,
They cite competitiveness while only one driver, in one car wins every race. If you follow the FOM rational, everyone except Max should be told that the can no longer compete!
American tracks should pull out until they are allowed in. Boy those Haas Alpha Romeo teams are right there in the mix.
They wanted more teams on the F1 Grid before they didn't .
What about Moneytron?
As an American, would it be out of line to suggest a boycott of the US races in the future if the ban continues?
Liberty and other behind the scenes players are busily destroying the legacy of F1. It is being turned into the motorsport version of many other sports where "The Show" is far more important than the racing. Mario is one of the best who ever raced, to not recognize that is disgusting.
Doubt that Andretti would let his team be a backpacker. They forget Mario we a F1 champion.
The Andretti name alone should grant him a seat at the table.
Management must make hard decisions to analyze what and how will F1 benefit from Andretti entering F 1. As a fan of F1, WEC,
and IMSA I do not see this proposal working. Cadillac engines and drivetrains are excellent. Penske would be my pick to manage an F1 TEAM.
Do F1 fans outside the US care about Andretti ? Any 11th team better than Haas will do . But an entry in 2025( just for the lower entry fee) was never a realistic option , with a set of new rules in 2026 and all the adaptations circuits have to make.
Only a tiny minority with keyboard fingers care about dretti
They said their entry would be for 2026. No point developing two cars. The application to the FIA was for 2025 or 2026. Delay in the approval process plus regulation change made 2025 entry impossible as per Andretti themselves.
"Formula One revenue has increased 24 per cent year-over-year (YoY) to US$887 million in the third quarter of 2023."
If Andretti would come with a bunch of sponsors, witch will increase this revenue for the Formula One for another 10% raise, Formula One and the teams would accept an eleventh team, because ist pays the prize money itself.
Andretti did not so the F1 would not gain any more money, so either the teams would have to accept 9.1% loss in prize money, or more likely the F1 and Liberty Media would have to reduce their revenue. Nobody wants to loses money! So Andretti has to bring additional revenue into the business, for 2026 that would be about 100 to 120 million US$ of extra sponsor money to the Formula One (!), his own Andretti-Team sponsors NOT included.
It's an invitation only sport. NASCAR has been practicing this for years.
It’s business. The numerator giveth and denominator taketh away.
How did a relatively unknown (at the time) Gene Haas provide value to F1 and Liberty Sports that Mario and Michael Andretti can't?
F1: America, why don’t you care about F1?
America: We’re ready to field a team in F1!
F1: Get f***ed America.
F-1 takes a lot of money to play follow the leader. No on track passing is not racing.
Ford vs Ferrari 2024 edition all over again.
Sounds like the gatekeepers (The OG's) are scared as they'd have an ambitious hungary and young team out there and they'd need to actually work to maintain the Status Quo
so tracks that can accommodate 30 cars from multiple series cant add two? This is all about the existing teams not wanting more competition, how are the bottom half of the existing grid providing value?
what happens if they test a car on a track and prove competitive?
Could be that FOM just want him to buy an existing team....
have them buy out HAAS for not fielding a competitive team bringing down the value of F1.
Here’s an idea. 🏆 No Andretti in F1. No F1 in America. 🏴
It's time!!!!!!🦘🇦🇺
If an Andretti f1 car lined up would be big viewership
FIA continues to prove they care more about money than the sport itself. Andretti has been racing for decades through various sports. Sounds like the other teams don’t want competition since the top 3 teams all have B teams that only race for midfield places. They want to keep their odds of winning the greatest they can be.
Pinnacle of motorsport, my backside. When the manufacturers find a better way of spending their marketing dollars, they'll happily sack their team and walk away. Andretti is a motorsport team, not a brand.
Truth hurts. Work on the package so they can’t say no next time.
Anything else is speculation and I haven’t seen any reporting have vision of all of the details. Fans shouldn’t get to decide what teams are in.
What's to keep them from saying no in 4-5 years? Who's going to outlay millions (or billions) to develop a car? If the racing was exciting every every with loads of passing and 10-15 legitimate race contenders I be inclined to agree with you but that's not what F1 has become.
This decision was based on greed of the other competitors Andretti should have been given a chance haas did Minardi and even Sauber it’s a narrascitic decision
Liberty: We see America as a great place for growth and believe we can really grow our business with American dollars.
Andretti GM: Great, sounds like a great match. You want more American fans, exposure, and dollars we have the biggest most marketable name in American motor sports by a huge margin partnered with the largest and most successful car manufacture in American auto racing. Let's do this!
Liberty: Oh no, you don't understand. We want American Dollars, but Americans not so much. How about instead of allowing America to have a team we just stick another over priced street circuit in New York or LA?
Andretti - Cadillac?
Come on 😆 F1 is right on this one
They don't fit. Wouldnt want an All Star F1 Weekend 😉
I think he should sue them. It’s ridiculous to deny his entry.
All boils down to money and corruption thanks to the guys at the top. All of sports regardless have suffered such a fate truly priceless to watch and I hope f1 gets sued and shown that a properly backed team should be allowed to attempt to win anything
All these fans think that just because FIA approved andretti's bid that does not mean FOM will agree to it. Each works independently - one is regulator (fia) the other is operator (fom). And the possibility of legal actions will be futile . Will see in a year or two, nothing will change FOM mind to reverse this , nor the judge 😎. Just look at abu Dhabi 2021 , nothing changed , even merc decided not to take legal actions. Sadly ,we have to wait if 2026/2028 or later if Andreotti will be back in the bid.
When you see what is actually happening F1 today. Louis Hamilton going to Ferrari. Who else will go Regardless to the back contract. Christian owner get in trouble. I think i'm ready will soon now in the american courts. He will win his case and then the Andretti brand will turn up. Hopefully we will have some nice formula one races even if it is at the back of the field. Maybe only 1 year before they get there together. But I think it will be impressive. Go i'm ready.👏👏👏🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲👍🇬🇧
Haas must be somehow be making money$ or they would probably sell......but how are they?
Andretti is not a good choice for Formula one. Andretti does not draw people to races. They always cry about what happened to them. It is never their fault.
A SUPER LOSER!
This is the biggest mistake that F1 could have made from a marketing perspective. I honestly feel that it more to do with a fear of what a quality established professional racing organization from the United States would bring from a competitive standpoint. They fear them since there is so much more racing in America than in Europe, so there is a higher level of quality talent to select from in the USA.
The ignorance shown in this post is shared with american f1 entrants, completely deluded themselves in to thinking they can do it. Never have and never will. You don't have the know how to make a back marker f1 car and even less speed in your racing drivers. Mental honestly.
@@markcripps2384 LOL... you have no idea how much to the ideas in the current F1 cars come from companies in the USA. I personally know of 2 smart engineers that went from a major indy car team to RedBull and plays a part in that teams success in 2023.
While there is a lot of smarts and creativity in F1 and Europe to be sure, just the numbers of people working in racing in the United States dwarfs those working in professional motorsports in Europe, and that includes F1. Across that spectrum of people there are a great many that are pretty creative and smart about things.
I can tell you that every time I've been invited into an F1 related facilities about half of the questions are to pick my brain about something asking what I think of this or that. In some things they are quite ahead of the curve, but in other things, they are about a year or 2 behind. Especially in engine design and materials.
I didn't see Europe put a man on the moon, or more recently fly a space craft to Mars, land it within 500 meters of their target, and then fly a helicopter around Mars for a year. F1 is a challenge to be sure, it requires the highest of creativity and quality. Don't sell others short.
If you want to talk about ignorance, look in the mirror.
I think they might have 200mil laying around for some lawyers. I hope they keep fighting!!!!
you got to prove your power plant has a track history in F1 of at a minimum reliability. Get in line till 28.
F1 should also apologize for their, "Andretti will benefit from F1" comments.
Sue F1
Post e mail address for liberty media and others that we can e mail to tell them they are wrong and will not watch or till andretti is allowed to race