These Characters ALMOST Got Into Smash Ultimate... Why Were They Rejected? | Siiroth

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  • With Min Min being a new addition into the Super Smash Bros Ultimate roster it got me thinking about the characters who were confirmed to have been rejected from the roster. In this video we analyze each of these characters and try to determine how likely they are to join the roster as fighters in the future.
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  • @DolphCapnOli2001
    @DolphCapnOli2001 Před 3 lety +1067

    Who's watching this after pyra and mythra have been confirmed as characters

  • @ahmadmeshar732
    @ahmadmeshar732 Před 3 lety +615

    He literally predicted pyra mythra transformation lmao

    • @madlyfwipp9511
      @madlyfwipp9511 Před 3 lety +12

      I mean why wouldn't they. It's their shtick in Xeno 2 and smash has already had tranformation characters. I'm just suprised they weren't in the base roster.

    • @alexdavison4404
      @alexdavison4404 Před 3 lety +4

      Me in 2021 you you you WAIT omg say walawigi say walawigi

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi Před 3 lety +2

      yea but rex got cut because it was too much for the game to handle 16 of these types of players

    • @jacobcopes6132
      @jacobcopes6132 Před 2 lety +1

      True

    • @kirbokirby3972
      @kirbokirby3972 Před 2 lety

      @@alexdavison4404 *Waluigi

  • @Xiruen
    @Xiruen Před 3 lety +296

    14:33
    hm.. this aged.

  • @qualityshitposts790
    @qualityshitposts790 Před 3 lety +837

    Decidueye: *Pokken Tournament*
    Incineroar: *Smash Bros*
    Primarina: Am I a joke to you?

    • @maxrichards3881
      @maxrichards3881 Před 3 lety +76

      Quality Shitposts
      Nope, Primarina’s my starter, but she doesn’t fit well in a fighting game.

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 Před 3 lety +44

      Primarina was already so good in Sun and Moon, give the other starters a chance to shine! (I love Primarina by the way, best Alola starter)

    • @nopenopenopepikachu5206
      @nopenopenopepikachu5206 Před 3 lety +7

      Yes

    • @JTsilver05
      @JTsilver05 Před 3 lety +10

      I very much dislike your pfp

    • @mettatonex7221
      @mettatonex7221 Před 3 lety +14

      Primarina is a joke to me, actually.

  • @Sillykids
    @Sillykids Před 3 lety +207

    (14:34) You freaking predicted it.

  • @flysium
    @flysium Před 3 lety +652

    What pains me as a Xenoblade 2 fan is the fact Byleth made it into smash when FE3H came out in 2019, two years after Xenoblade 2. I love 3 houses btw, i'm not salty about Byleth in smash.

    • @Siiroth
      @Siiroth  Před 3 lety +106

      That's a good point, it really shows that DLC opened up a lot of character's chances

    • @RaidikV
      @RaidikV Před 3 lety +44

      The reason that Rex couldn't be in the base game wasn't because Xenoblade Chronicles 2 development began late? And I also understand that it applied to the base game but not necessarily to the DLC, but I don't understand at 100% how does that work.
      Also, I'm not salty about Byleth (in fact, he/she is my main), but this is kinda weird.

    • @marcosgalvis3498
      @marcosgalvis3498 Před 3 lety +21

      @@RaidikV yup, really confusing like how does it even works? Was Three Houses development that slow or something in comparison to Xenoblade that they managed to finish their game before 3H as well Arms.

    • @DigitalHazard567
      @DigitalHazard567 Před 3 lety +12

      The thing is a matter of timeframes: Rex would have been planned for the base game if not for when Ultimate's development began, but by that point it was too early. Meanwhile Byleth is a DLC character with a game developed enough at the time that Nintendo gave Sakurai a Three Houses beta to make a moveset out of.

    • @garrettwade1294
      @garrettwade1294 Před 3 lety +23

      Dlc is made after the game is already made and is decided by nintendo instead of the Smash team. Nintendo wanted to promote 3 houses, likely due to the dlc being released. They want to promote Arms so people will give it a chance. Nintendo is ultimately a company and they want to put in what they want most.

  • @insanelyscaryawful1937
    @insanelyscaryawful1937 Před 3 lety +378

    I feel like Decidueye wasn’t picked because he already was in Pokken Tournament

    • @blazingscorpiez2550
      @blazingscorpiez2550 Před 3 lety +12

      Correct

    • @looting3305
      @looting3305 Před 3 lety +62

      I still really think it woudlve made more sense if these two swapped places
      Dont get me wrong, I love incine in smash but just imagine it. Like, a Wrestling themed character in the "actual" fighting game, and have the archer zoning character in the platform fighting game? It seems a bit more fitting to me

    • @insanelyscaryawful1937
      @insanelyscaryawful1937 Před 3 lety +17

      Hot Dog yea, I would’ve loved that Decidueye is also one of the coolest Pokémon

    • @camilovonhresvelg3262
      @camilovonhresvelg3262 Před 3 lety +13

      Actually Incineroar is one of Game Freaks favorite Pokemon according to the companys developer & is one of the most used mons in the competitive scene as well. I think these reasons led him into Smash. Besides his unique playstyle as grappler & Decidueye being in Pokken. But I would agree that Decidueye is the most popular gen 7 starter for casual gamers (for me as well)

    • @mettatonex7221
      @mettatonex7221 Před 3 lety +5

      I don't think that should stop anybody, though. If they want a character to be in both, they should go for it. Expecially since it's all but confirmed that the majority of the community prefers Decidueye to Incineroar.

  • @spaghettibird5135
    @spaghettibird5135 Před 3 lety +639

    Honest question:
    Have 90% of the people asking for Geno actually ever played SMRPG? It seems like so many people just bandwagon that one

    • @Siiroth
      @Siiroth  Před 3 lety +128

      I think that's mainly because he's been considered so many times and has a very passionate fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually find out he was considered for Ultimate as well

    • @papaG6423
      @papaG6423 Před 3 lety +74

      I've played SMRPG, but I don't really care for Geno getting in as much as many other characters

    • @yankee1147
      @yankee1147 Před 3 lety +77

      I never played RPG, but I can say he looks like a very unique character. But I'm not one to vote him in. If he gets in then thats great. He earned it or something. But I am always seeing people wanting Geno in smash. Like give us a good reason to add him. Is it possible with the company he is in. What can his moves be. Don't just say "I want him in. And he because he deserves it". Its dumb. But again. If he makes it then he makes it

    • @RaidikV
      @RaidikV Před 3 lety +13

      I played SMRPG, and I really liked Geno, but I'm kinda neutral about him getting in Smash, I can see a lot of potential on his moveset (and the moveset of a character is the main reason that makes me want to buy the smash DLC), but the inclusion itself of Geno wouldn't hype me for some reason.

    • @tylerneedham5397
      @tylerneedham5397 Před 3 lety +1

      I think is character is cool but I just want a stage from smrpg and the music

  • @mcqueenspartyisinhell2013
    @mcqueenspartyisinhell2013 Před 3 lety +118

    Sakurai: I don't see a potential moveset for that character
    Then proceeds to add Mr. Game and Watch and R.O.B as if those characters had a extravagant and rich moves on their games

    • @mythoughtsexactly2145
      @mythoughtsexactly2145 Před 3 lety +30

      Mr. Game & Watch has many games to make moveset out of while R.O.B literally has two games and he's not even in it

    • @gulaschgunther4629
      @gulaschgunther4629 Před 3 lety +1

      Dont forget piranha plant

    • @prod.swoopy
      @prod.swoopy Před 3 lety +1

      To be fair, when Sakurai says that „he doesn‘t see a potential moveset“ for a character, he probably means that the character in question has moves in his game that go against the formula of smash and wouldn’t do them justice. Mr Game and Watch didn’t have that high pressure of said injustice and was more open for interpretation.

  • @cryptic_honcho1610
    @cryptic_honcho1610 Před 3 lety +510

    I was initially sad about Incin being in over Decidueye but now I’ve played as him for a while I actually love him

  • @DBlue92_
    @DBlue92_ Před 3 lety +483

    I would have much preferred Decidueye. But it is what it is. Ultimate isn’t the end of Smash, so you never know what might come next roster wise

    • @Eclipsed_Embers
      @Eclipsed_Embers Před 3 lety +64

      I really doubt that we'll ever get a proper new smash game after ultimate, we'll probably just get rereleases with new DLC (and any characters that ended up with issues over who has the rights to them removed). after all how would they ever top what is suposed to be the ultimate smash experience?

    • @magnej1520
      @magnej1520 Před 3 lety +9

      It is sad but we now have a high chance of getting rillaboom

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 Před 3 lety +7

      the next smash bros roster will be completely reset and more than likely have no 3rd party fighters

    • @Promethazin3
      @Promethazin3 Před 3 lety +19

      Eclipsed Embers They could easily top this game with a proper online a proper story mode and many other modes that didn’t make it like a boss rush, all star mode, special orders, events, target smash, bomb blast, smash run, and smash tour and change up some character move-sets like young link, ganondorf, sonic, Luigi, Kirby, and many other characters that either aren’t fun to play viable or accurate to their characters

    • @marcosgalvis3498
      @marcosgalvis3498 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Promethazin3 considering this game takes a lot from the past game I wonder why any of that stuff isn't even when the game came out! Hello? Where is my Target Smash?

  • @nathancrane6548
    @nathancrane6548 Před 3 lety +64

    If min min got promoted from spirit to fighter, then that would give an opportunity to most of the spirits fans want in the game

    • @gnarly.bulblax
      @gnarly.bulblax Před 3 lety +2

      @Dayvion Brooks I can only imagine how you feel

    • @thetrueknight5927
      @thetrueknight5927 Před 3 lety

      If any spirit makes it in, I’d say it would be Eggman.

    • @hyperm8
      @hyperm8 Před 3 lety

      @Dayvion Brooks sephiroth: are you *SURE* about that?

    • @patmurph7769
      @patmurph7769 Před 3 lety +5

      Well pyra and mythra are now fighters no longer spirits

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 Před 3 lety

      @@Marcelo-rs8yh Porky isn't a spirit :-(

  • @MarioKartGamerDude
    @MarioKartGamerDude Před 3 lety +51

    At this point I’m not even gonna try to predict who’s next cuz it’s impossible to guess, especially with Min Min’s addition!

    • @draxon2006
      @draxon2006 Před 3 lety +7

      Exactly, right?!? I'm super pumped!
      I know I'm a scrub to say this but.... I'm excited for the next waves of Mii costumes!!!

    • @maxrichards3881
      @maxrichards3881 Před 3 lety

      I was expecting Max Brass.

    • @Mal-go5dl
      @Mal-go5dl Před 3 lety

      MinMin was predictable, unless you're talking about the ARMS character in general

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 Před 3 lety +1

      @@draxon2006 honestly at this point I can't even imagine what outfits the Mii (gunner) fighters will get

    • @draxon2006
      @draxon2006 Před 3 lety

      @@masonjones7777 That's so true. I guess Sakurai is a Mii Gunner main.

  • @Squeesquee_
    @Squeesquee_ Před 3 lety +65

    I think Sakurai wants to surprise us with some of the fighters in Super Smash Bros. that's why I guess.

    • @yogurt5628
      @yogurt5628 Před 3 lety

      And you were right my friend although I think u already know that

  • @endoftheleft2704
    @endoftheleft2704 Před 3 lety +12

    I’m surprised this video doesn’t have as many “Pyra DID make it in and that transformation mechanic is a part of her moveset like you said it would be” comments as I thought there’d be.

  • @hyrulelonk616
    @hyrulelonk616 Před 3 lety +23

    You make high quality videos for someone who only has ~25k subs. Keep up the great content and i will watch your channel grow into something bigger with great interest

    • @Siiroth
      @Siiroth  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you so much I appreciate the support!

    • @cabrinius
      @cabrinius Před 3 lety

      Well now he has 26.7k

  • @RadiantBeachShulk
    @RadiantBeachShulk Před 3 lety +64

    Technically, you could canonically have Rex without Pyra, but that would be equivalent to Shulk without the Monado.
    Rex and Pyra always go together. Rex wields the weapon most of the time, with Pyra powering the sword, and Rex passes the sword to Pyra for blade specials. You could canonically have them as individual characters, but that would be unlikely given how great the importance of the driver/blade dynamic is in Xenoblade 2.

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 Před 3 lety +13

      I think Rex and Pyra have the potential to be one of the most interesting and fun characters. You could add attack cancelling, Torna's vanguard/rearguard switch, blade switching (although I would steer clear of this as swapping between three different blades is stepping on Pokemon Trainer's toes, and I personally don't like playing as PT). You could even do a mechanic similar to Joker's Arsene gauge as a stand in for blade affinity, and at max Pyra changes to Mythra since Mythra is the stronger form.
      They're easily my most wanted fighters, XC2 is my favorite game by a longshot, and I would love to have Rex and Pyra in Smash.

    • @NepheneeGyattRizz
      @NepheneeGyattRizz Před 3 lety +2

      Ye. The aegis is pretty obviously the xc2 counterpart too the monado

    • @NepheneeGyattRizz
      @NepheneeGyattRizz Před 3 lety

      @@conorb.1901 See that's what I'm thinking cuz tornas system was so much cooler (this is probably just my bias and me being happy to actually play as Jin) but yeh rearguard vanguard system could work

    • @normaljim
      @normaljim Před 3 lety

      But Lucas uses starstorm as his smash attack. And he doesn't know how to use that in the game. So. I'm sure they could find a way around it

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 Před 3 lety

      With xenoblade de I’d rather have Melia anyway

  • @guillaumelemieux7686
    @guillaumelemieux7686 Před 3 lety +38

    Siiroth: The standard Piranha Plant had never been playable in anything ever before
    Mario Odyssey: Am I a joke to you?

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 Před 3 lety +6

      it's like the thor's hammer debate, if you control mario controlling the plant, are you controlling the plant too?

    • @guillaumelemieux7686
      @guillaumelemieux7686 Před 3 lety +5

      Mason Jones if i control my brain controlling my every moves, am i controlling my every moves? there goes my sleep

    • @cristhianmunoz7025
      @cristhianmunoz7025 Před 3 lety +6

      "Those are the Fire and Poison Piranha Plants, which are a different species from the one in Smash"
      -Pjiggles

    • @duskmoonlight8705
      @duskmoonlight8705 Před 3 lety

      Mario spin offs tho

  • @logam7248
    @logam7248 Před 3 lety +130

    I'd really wish that Octolings were in smash, I'd love an inkling Echo fighter.

    • @NoahHalfSquid
      @NoahHalfSquid Před 3 lety +9

      Why not a new character from Splatoon

    • @equinox-XVI
      @equinox-XVI Před 3 lety +3

      I could imagine them being throw into another character's reveal or getting their own "mini reveal" similar to what daisy and Chrom got. But I do think it's possible, and I've wanted it ever since they announced echo fighters

    • @alessiopellicano4248
      @alessiopellicano4248 Před 3 lety +18

      Why an Echo fighter? they can use the weapons from splatoon 2 instead of the weapons from the first game

    • @teamsharpened7661
      @teamsharpened7661 Před 3 lety +2

      @@alessiopellicano4248 yes i would love that

    • @tetrakitty1588
      @tetrakitty1588 Před 3 lety +1

      that would be awesome

  • @goroakechi6126
    @goroakechi6126 Před 3 lety +89

    Rex is bound to get into Smash. Sakurai has played XC2, and him switching from Pyra to Mythra could be an amazing mechanic.

    • @brianv9242
      @brianv9242 Před 3 lety +2

      We can only hope man

    • @st8968
      @st8968 Před 3 lety +2

      I would rather have a character that has never been a franchise that was in smash

    • @grotto185
      @grotto185 Před 3 lety +3

      @@st8968 so an underrated third party rep?

    • @ethanbrown6188
      @ethanbrown6188 Před 3 lety +2

      @@st8968 I was thinking maybe yo Kai watch? It's third party, but Nintendo exclusive.

    • @ethanbrown6188
      @ethanbrown6188 Před 3 lety

      @@grotto185 I'd like Celeste in smash thank you very much (not underrated, but still)

  • @dcjulle
    @dcjulle Před 3 lety +155

    I can't be the only one who thought that when Minmin was revealed, the "Min min arms herself!" sounded kinda wrong

    • @mckaygoodman6514
      @mckaygoodman6514 Před 3 lety +26

      Next arms rep, "Twintelle Hairs herself!"

    • @fbiagent7325
      @fbiagent7325 Před 3 lety +10

      @Masahiro Sakurai holy shit, your right

    • @starrymaniac5127
      @starrymaniac5127 Před 3 lety +33

      @Masahiro Sakurai they do, the lore says that it's an ability to where the characters can make their arms stretchy whenever they want, so they do have regular arms, it's just that they can turn them into stretchy on command. They do, however, have to where specialized masks, because they can't really control WHEN their arms stretch, only IF they want their arms to stretch.

    • @luigi-time5004
      @luigi-time5004 Před 3 lety +19

      *Min Min holds a Gun

    • @Nick-lu7tr
      @Nick-lu7tr Před 3 lety +8

      @Masahiro Sakurai Pretty sure Twintelle has actual arms

  • @somegeek6836
    @somegeek6836 Před 3 lety +119

    Okay real talk, I'd legit be down with Licilicky as a fighter. 😂🤙

    • @micahsolomon2033
      @micahsolomon2033 Před 3 lety +3

      Grizz Bizy wholesome chungus reddit keanu moment 100

    • @somegeek6836
      @somegeek6836 Před 3 lety +4

      @Grizz Bizy So am I😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @goldencharizard7240
      @goldencharizard7240 Před 3 lety +6

      @@somegeek6836 haha he got roasted so bad (ps ppl should stop using gay as an insult and this is from a someone straight)

    • @SaltyBanjos
      @SaltyBanjos Před 3 lety

      @Grizz Bizy your probably jealous he got a heart

    • @gnarly.bulblax
      @gnarly.bulblax Před 3 lety

      @@micahsolomon2033 what does this have to do with Reddit? And why does it matter if someone uses Reddit.

  • @luniasta
    @luniasta Před 3 lety +15

    Just here after Pyra's inclusion to giggle at the thumbnail

  • @yusufahmed3192
    @yusufahmed3192 Před 3 lety +6

    And Pyra and Mythra are in Smash. Woah.

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 Před 3 lety +178

    so you worked at nintendo.. ive found u out

    • @Siiroth
      @Siiroth  Před 3 lety +54

      Bro don't expose

    • @EurydiceGaming
      @EurydiceGaming Před 3 lety +8

      E x p o s e? H m m m m m . . .

    • @mckaygoodman6514
      @mckaygoodman6514 Před 3 lety +3

      Siiroth for smash confirmed?

    • @AnonymOus-ss9jj
      @AnonymOus-ss9jj Před 3 lety +2

      @@Siiroth
      Wait for how long?1 Was it Nintendo of America, Europe, Mushroom Kindom, or where?! Why don't you still work for them?!

    • @notlunchbutloafy6360
      @notlunchbutloafy6360 Před 3 lety

      @@AnonymOus-ss9jj i don't think he ever worked for them. He probably just does it for clickbait

  • @alkibot6284
    @alkibot6284 Před 3 lety +4

    the thumbnail aged like fine wine

  • @spooksahoy5097
    @spooksahoy5097 Před 3 lety +185

    Almost
    But now they have a chance, especially now that the spirit rule is deconfirmed

    • @ridiculousvic5448
      @ridiculousvic5448 Před 3 lety +29

      Bruh it never was a rule

    • @RaidikV
      @RaidikV Před 3 lety +20

      That was one of the 100 rules that the community created, so it never really was a rule.

    • @Promethazin3
      @Promethazin3 Před 3 lety +8

      I never believed for a second that was actually a rule what I do believe is the assist trophy rule

    • @kaical8273
      @kaical8273 Před 3 lety +6

      I feel like it wasn't deconfirmed it never existed.

    • @emmamora7
      @emmamora7 Před 3 lety +1

      Jabrielallstarz711 They might just change the Min Min spirit into a fighter spirit, don’t get your hopes up.

  • @conormahon2666
    @conormahon2666 Před 3 lety +6

    Pyra and Mythra: *laughs in Smash invite*

  • @pussayxxxslayer3297
    @pussayxxxslayer3297 Před 3 lety +7

    That pyra and mythra prediction tho

  • @clarkryback3151
    @clarkryback3151 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you for the shout out at the end of the video. Keep them coming.

    • @Siiroth
      @Siiroth  Před 3 lety +1

      I appreciate the support!

  • @francisco65372
    @francisco65372 Před 3 lety +115

    I'm still a little bit sad that we got Incineroar instead of Decidueye, I think Decidueye fits more in smash than Pokken and Incineroar fits more in Pokken than in Smash, and with Decidueye we could have had finally one starter for each main type, instead of 2 fire final starters and 1 water final starter

    • @kappapond
      @kappapond Před 3 lety +5

      Then there'd be 2 water, 2 grass, and 1 fire (starters not JUST the fully evolved ones)... so not much change there

    • @eduardolugo4609
      @eduardolugo4609 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly

    • @Paperluigi97
      @Paperluigi97 Před 3 lety +11

      We'd have 1 fully evolved of each id prefer that to 2 fully evolved for one type and just a midstage for grass

    • @kirby6470
      @kirby6470 Před 3 lety +3

      @Emmanuel Brijandez Torres yeah the starter triangle really doesn't matter

    • @Paperluigi97
      @Paperluigi97 Před 3 lety +3

      @Emmanuel Brijandez Torres eh I would prefer just because grass is one of my favorites as far as starters, that and I honestly just dont like incineroar as a pokemon , he's fun in smash because I like grapples but I would of picked alot other pokemon before him xD it is kinda sad that grass is the only one without a full evo tho

  • @racckoon6127
    @racckoon6127 Před 3 lety +3

    The thumbnail aged well

  • @lpgoodgamer7137
    @lpgoodgamer7137 Před 3 lety +4

    15:15
    that aged well

  • @london6157
    @london6157 Před 3 lety +71

    Is that a
    Danganronpa reference I see

  • @PatTyploosion
    @PatTyploosion Před 3 lety +1

    I remember when you hit 500 or 1k I can't remember when not trying to brag but it's crazy to see you grow this big. You've always made great videos

  • @q-tips9969
    @q-tips9969 Před 3 lety +43

    For all those who say first, stop. Just stop.

    • @esq9
      @esq9 Před 3 lety +1

      Bruh, they just said hi. It was wholesome.

    • @johannesboomsma4680
      @johannesboomsma4680 Před 3 lety +5

      I said the evil thing tho

    • @q-tips9969
      @q-tips9969 Před 3 lety +3

      but why? I wasn’t saying those people are being annoying. The people who say first are

    • @den4986
      @den4986 Před 3 lety

      Hi

    • @ds_k5601
      @ds_k5601 Před 3 lety +3

      First

  • @angrygeri7026
    @angrygeri7026 Před 3 lety +7

    My man literally left out Ninjara, Sakurai even mentioned in the Min Min direct that he was thinking about it.

  • @uncreativity8896
    @uncreativity8896 Před 3 lety +8

    He predicted the future.

  • @Zoroark_Master
    @Zoroark_Master Před 3 lety +5

    Ok this guy accurately predicted Pyra&mythra

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 Před 3 lety +4

    5:02 You have to remember that this game has three Links and two Pits and they all have a bow (with one of them even using a bow in his Final Smash).

    • @kirbokirby3972
      @kirbokirby3972 Před 2 lety

      Technically there are three Samus
      (EDIT: There's Samus, Dark Samus, and Zero Suit Samus)

  • @brianv9242
    @brianv9242 Před 3 lety +46

    Sakurai: Xenoblade 2 was too early in development for Rex to make it in the base game
    Also Sakurai: yes we added Byleth in the game as DLC despite FE3 Houses not being released yet. Nintendo gave me a beta copy so I could make an adequate character
    Also also Sakurai: yes we’ve also opted to add ARMS in the game despite the games characters seemingly missing the boat in the same way as Rex

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 Před 3 lety +6

      You don't develop games nor do you work at Nintendo. You know nothing about what goes on behind close doors.

    • @ratman6754
      @ratman6754 Před 3 lety +8

      Three houses had been out for multiple months before byleth was a fighter. Check ya facts buddy

    • @AtomBacon
      @AtomBacon Před 3 lety +6

      @@ratman6754 But it wasn't when Byleth was chosen and began development.

    • @brianv9242
      @brianv9242 Před 3 lety +7

      Ratman yeah I meant 3 houses wasn’t it out when Byleth’s character was being made. They specifically catered to sakurai by giving him a beta copy

    • @infinityJKA
      @infinityJKA Před 3 lety +2

      @@AtomBacon Fire Emblem Three Houses was announced before the DLC characters were chosen

  • @xaviercazares3008
    @xaviercazares3008 Před 3 lety +3

    0:46 made me immediately subscribed

  • @arkofpolaris4646
    @arkofpolaris4646 Před 3 lety +3

    Pyra has been rejected.
    8 months later
    Pyra Joins the battle!

  • @thumbaumrrr
    @thumbaumrrr Před 3 lety +3

    -6:18 SEPHIROTH: DESCENDS INTO BATTLE!

  • @kingpikmin6361
    @kingpikmin6361 Před 3 lety +7

    1:56 I get the vibe that some people are still unaccepting of Pichu’s return to Smash (not saying you HAVE to accept it, but it’s pretty strange to _not_ accept it given how we now have every single Smash character back and even more on the way). Pichu is my all-time favorite Smash character, and yet it seems to have had the toughest time out of everyone included so far: being shunned by the community during its absence throughout Brawl and Smash for 3DS/Wii U (during the latter game’s DLC era, people completely disapproved of Pichu’s potential comeback), being viewed as the absolute worst character to ever join the series, with some even calling Pichu “undeserving” of a comeback, and if you so much as expressed _any_ interest in Pichu’s return at all, or even talked positively of its Melee incarnation, you’d get told off for wanting/liking a “trash” character with your intelligence questioned. And as the cherry on top, when Pichu _finally_ made its return in Ultimate, it was completely ripped apart, limb from limb, by the community, who complained about Pichu’s competitive superiority, causing it to get hard-nerfed just a few months after the game’s release. Some people even think Pichu should be removed AGAIN in a future Smash game, which...is okay, but it pains me to see that Pichu is _still_ viewed with a dumbfounded eye by most people in the community.
    Just let the little guy be! Pichu fans (like myself) had to go through hell just to see it come back. And it’s not like Pichu replaced anyone, either; we’ve got every other cut Smash fighter brought back along with it. So, what’s the damage here?

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 3 lety

      The problem with Pichu is that he is just a semi clone of Pikachu, there was no reason for have one.

    • @omeletttte
      @omeletttte Před 3 lety

      @@juanrodriguez9971 but it's a free extra character

    • @shyguyissoawesomeguys
      @shyguyissoawesomeguys Před 3 lety +2

      @@juanrodriguez9971 He has quite a few differences from Pikachu, plus he's literally free and didn't replace a character.

    • @alexcampuzano2001
      @alexcampuzano2001 Před 3 lety

      I like raichu :v

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 Před 3 lety

      @@juanrodriguez9971 So what if he a semi clone? All that matters is there people who wants to play as him? He seems more popular then the three overhype characters people been asking for smash over the years.

  • @jakethedragonymaster1235
    @jakethedragonymaster1235 Před 3 lety +11

    Everybody has forgotten about Bandana Dee

  • @tomb411
    @tomb411 Před 3 lety +2

    uhhh I remember Sakurai saying he did consider Decidueye, however since they would've had a similar bow mechanic as Pit/Dark Pit/Link/Link2/Link3, so he confidently opted for Incineroar, since there aren't any dedicated wrestlers (grapplers? sure, but definitely no luchadores)

    • @gamerowl9934
      @gamerowl9934 Před 3 lety

      I Hope and Pray that Decidueye gets in eventually.

  • @Oburi7
    @Oburi7 Před 3 lety

    I liked quite a lot your video
    Most videos on this subject are just what people would want without much thought on it
    You in the other hand made a research on the possibility and made some interesting arguments, the one of Zenoblade was my favorite and I see this possibility now

  • @Sean-qg3gg
    @Sean-qg3gg Před 3 lety +6

    “And more time to watch tentacle hen-“
    I’m thinking you mean Chickens with tentacles

  • @ItsRusto
    @ItsRusto Před 3 lety +32

    As much as i would like to play AS Pyra/Mythra, but if there were to be a xenoblade 2 rep, im pretty sure it sould be rex, Smash is for good boys and girls after all.

    • @maxrichards3881
      @maxrichards3881 Před 3 lety +7

      Rusto
      They censored Mythra’s spirit, they could just use that.

    • @joeydestructo
      @joeydestructo Před 3 lety +2

      They could mimic the Torna battle system and have Rex and Pyra swap in and out as the fighter, with the other in the background like Pokemon Trainer.

    • @ferusskywalker9167
      @ferusskywalker9167 Před 3 lety

      @@joeydestructo or they could use them like pokemon trainer where you switch the blade that Rex is using between Pyra, Mythra, Roc, or something and the blade stands in the background like pokemon trainer.

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 Před 3 lety +1

      Or Melia or Elma

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 Před 3 lety

      @@ferusskywalker9167 Rex can have four blades engaged at any given time. Pyra and Mythra are the same person and can switch with each other instantly.

  • @goodair9546
    @goodair9546 Před 3 lety +28

    And then in the next direct they're going to say: "And now we show you a new DLC Character: Its the grass starter of the 7th gen.!" Then they show Rowlet...

  • @DoctorMinjinx
    @DoctorMinjinx Před 3 lety +1

    Sakurai said Rex was too new for the base game. He then elaborated saying ARMS was also in this boat. However, he added a Fire Emblem character, admitting to giving the series special treatment by reserving a spot and playing an early copy of the game. He then picked up ARMS and gave them a DLC fighter, as the timing issue is long since over in this pass. Maybe it's a personal bias because he's my most requested fighter, but it would be quite messed up to leave Rex out at this point.

  • @co2gofast
    @co2gofast Před 3 lety +11

    You spoke too soon with Pyra also who’s here after pyra was announced

  • @plaguedocgames7364
    @plaguedocgames7364 Před 3 lety +38

    Seeing how Squeenix is like with their IP, there is no way Geno will be a fighter. Unless they are willing to let them have a hand at the character aside from a smash tag and spirit. Also, Nintendo chose the fighters, so I don't know if they want to go with a fan favorite or use their own franchises for any form of promotion.

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 Před 3 lety +2

      square-enix has done absolutely nothing with geno after super mario rpg meaning they really don't care and sakurai already has permission to use geno because of the geno spirit and Nintendo is fulfilling fan requests and they know how much geno is wanted as a fighter and they know sakurai wants geno as well and because the geno mii costume hasn't returned means that geno will be a dlc fighter in fighters pass 2

    • @plaguedocgames7364
      @plaguedocgames7364 Před 3 lety +2

      @@terrysyvertson9205
      That does make sense. But we will just have to wait till the Fall to see the next fighter.

    • @marcosgalvis3498
      @marcosgalvis3498 Před 3 lety +1

      @@plaguedocgames7364 what are the months fall takes place?

    • @amandakelley4537
      @amandakelley4537 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marcosgalvis3498 august to november

    • @darkbehemoth9433
      @darkbehemoth9433 Před 3 lety +3

      I honestly agree with you. I’ve said this to many that the reason why Geno isn’t in smash is because of square enix. With the two characters they have in smash right now, they are profitable characters that make them a boatload of money for just being in smash ultimate. Geno however isn’t a profitable character which is why they would probably rather have another one of their big characters as opposed to a one off character from a 20 year old game. And before anyone mentions, “oh they allowed Geno to be a spirit and mii costume in smash 4”, that argument doesn’t really mean anything when you consider that since he was a one off character, his appearance as a mii costume or a spirit is not nearly as massive as being playable which is why they allowed that since people wouldn’t pay attention. Square enix in my personal opinion would probably rather have Lara Croft or Sora as their next rep.

  • @jcook7408
    @jcook7408 Před 3 lety +7

    Sadly Alucard is an assist trophy. So I doubt we will ever see him.

  • @skinnywhiteboy5590
    @skinnywhiteboy5590 Před 3 lety

    14:43 sometimes I forget the sheer amount of people who have became fans of the series and didn't grow up on brawl (or melee). But it honestly makes me feel really old whenever people talk about brawl like that.

  • @juanrodriguez9971
    @juanrodriguez9971 Před 3 lety +39

    Something tells me that you hadn't play Xenoblade Chronicles 2, right? Because if Rex makes it, Pyra and Mythra will be in as well, you can't have one without the other, unlike Pokemon where you can finish the whole game without your starter, in Xenoblade you can't take off your main blade, in this case, Pyra/Mythra.

    • @untitlednobody9009
      @untitlednobody9009 Před 3 lety +3

      I don't think Rex will come, a pyra Mythra Zelda Shiek, Pokémon Trainer Style would be sooo interesting

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 Před 3 lety +4

      @@untitlednobody9009 personally, I really don't like Pokemon Trainer. I think Rex would be better if he just had Pyra and Mythra rather than three different blades. Maybe with a mechanic similar to Lucario's aura or the blade affinity from XC2. My idea is have Pyra as the base form, but when you hit max affinity she swaps with Mythra and all Rex's attacks become more powerful.
      I also like the idea of utilizing Torna's vanguard/rearguard system and having Rex and Pyra swapping back and forth. We don't have a Zelda/Sheik style character in Ultimate besides Pokemon Trainer but again, I don't particularly like Pokemon Trainer

    • @Bellboyce
      @Bellboyce Před 3 lety

      Conor B. Something that they could do is what I like to call a combo of Pokémon trainer and ice climbers where you have Rex in the battle and you start off with Pyra but she is in the background and follows you and during the match the more closer you are to Pyra the more your affinity raises and of course you can switch between Pyra and Mythra and the other blades you can switch to is Roc and maybe a character that’s a big spoiler in the game. So Rex can utilize different weapons too but I’m more sure they would keep it to Pyra and Mythra also the affinity thing could be like lucario and his aura gimmick but instead of being based off damage it’s based off how long you stay close to your blade hopefully this makes sense but I highly doubt they would do something like this it would be pretty difficult to develop and to play as but hey it’s sakurai we are talking about

    • @conorb.1901
      @conorb.1901 Před 3 lety

      @ViskaDrake I mean, 7 isn't quite as big of a spoiler as that character. Heck, I'm not even sure Monolithsoft considers 7 a spoiler since they've spoiled then twice

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 Před 3 lety

      Yes another Pokémon in smash ultimate as DLC like decidueye and Sceptile

  • @Ommoo
    @Ommoo Před 3 lety +3

    and now we have Pyra & Mythra confirmed as fighters

  • @lapzidorus1786
    @lapzidorus1786 Před 3 lety

    I think I recall reading that Midgar's music is so small because the deal between Nintendo and Square Enix to include Cloud was so restricted/inflexible; however, my quick research couldn't recover that information from where I found it: the Smash Wiki or Smashpedia.

  • @nopenopenopepikachu5206
    @nopenopenopepikachu5206 Před 3 lety +2

    Another fighter that wasn't publicly rejected, but can be almost confirmed not to be in smash is Monster Hunter. They would have been a great new addition to the cast as a multi weapon user, but Byleth has the same gimmick. So adding a second one seems veey unlikely.

  • @mariothemii
    @mariothemii Před 3 lety +4

    Well Pyra is in now and *I AM HYPED*

  • @kingdedede3814
    @kingdedede3814 Před 3 lety +6

    Well, Pyra did get in I guess

  • @LuigiDaPROGaming
    @LuigiDaPROGaming Před 2 lety +2

    The thumbnail that had Pyra on it aged like the Atari 2600

  • @oofoof1589
    @oofoof1589 Před 3 lety +2

    14:36 he said it!

  • @jessicadarmento3381
    @jessicadarmento3381 Před 3 lety +8

    Anyone else concered how he said, "and more time to watch tentacle hentai". Im concered.

  • @rantranger1527
    @rantranger1527 Před 3 lety +6

    0:45 you trying to get yourself demonitized bro 😂

  • @Testing123-Ore7
    @Testing123-Ore7 Před 3 lety +3

    I wish they'd add Pyra. Although it seems pretty impossible.. We already have Shulk representing Xenoblade..

  • @bitratebenny2856
    @bitratebenny2856 Před 3 lety +5

    8:18 So, uh... do we need to talk about what's on the ballot? No? Good.

  • @TheUpdator
    @TheUpdator Před 3 lety +5

    This aged poorly.

  • @SwingSwong
    @SwingSwong Před 3 lety +21

    im so sad that decidueye was cut... hes my favorite pokemon and always use him in sword and shield as well since pokemon home came out... as soon as i saw incineroar it kinda ruined that direct for me (until plant was revealed). and dont get me wrong, im really happy that incineroar was added, but having your favorite pokemon being not just left out, but *almost put in*, then wasnt, feels a lot worse.

    • @helloworld2409
      @helloworld2409 Před 3 lety

      Same

    • @WDB2005
      @WDB2005 Před 2 lety

      I kinda liked Inceneroar

    • @SwingSwong
      @SwingSwong Před 2 lety

      @@WDB2005 I think so too, he makes a lot of sense for smash, more than decidueye, but just the fact that my favorite Pokémon got so close makes me really salty lol

    • @UltimateDragonX9999
      @UltimateDragonX9999 Před 2 lety

      There is hope now the new fully evolved grass type starter Pokémon from the current generation 8 Galar Sword and Shield Rillaboom. It’s time for a fully evolved grass type starter Pokémon to join smash ultimate dlc.

  • @albi3365
    @albi3365 Před 3 lety +22

    waddle Dee probably has a high Kirby rep

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 Před 3 lety

      use his full name: BANDANNA waddle dee!!!!
      (though I would take any kirby rep, even a dark Mettaknight echo)

    • @odnetnin2768
      @odnetnin2768 Před 3 lety +1

      New Kirby fighter is Whispy Woods. Heaviest character yet.

    • @Mr.Tw1sty
      @Mr.Tw1sty Před 3 lety

      @@odnetnin2768 his final smash a big apple it does 60% and does 90% if you're Dr mario

  • @mkn5844
    @mkn5844 Před 3 lety +2

    i wonder if they thought decidueye would have too similar of a play style to pit and dark pit, since they’re all winged archers?

    • @gamerowl9934
      @gamerowl9934 Před 3 lety

      I don't know but I Hope and Pray that Decidueye gets in eventually...

  • @CrocvsGator
    @CrocvsGator Před 3 lety +33

    Everyone here debating over Incineroar and Decidueye, meanwhile I'm a Primarina fan.

  • @TheRManProds
    @TheRManProds Před 3 lety +25

    I still Say Sceptile, Decidueye, or Rillaboom for Grass Starter Rep!

    • @gamerowl9934
      @gamerowl9934 Před 3 lety +2

      Decidueye, DECIDUEYE COME ON!!!

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 Před 3 lety +5

      Sceptile

    • @kaziposs4723
      @kaziposs4723 Před 3 lety +6

      Grovyle. I say this so we can have a mystery dungeon rep and a grass starter

    • @odnetnin2768
      @odnetnin2768 Před 3 lety +1

      We’re probably gonna end up getting someone like Galarian Slowbro for Gen 8.

    • @gamerowl9934
      @gamerowl9934 Před 3 lety +1

      @@odnetnin2768
      Anything that is not Rillaboom...
      I still can't believe Decidueye isn't in...

  • @manavshah6831
    @manavshah6831 Před 3 lety +1

    nice prediction!

  • @nikolaiflyd4548
    @nikolaiflyd4548 Před 3 lety +1

    I love that slick danganronpa reference

  • @p3dro187
    @p3dro187 Před 3 lety +6

    I would like if nintendo add the 4 champions from Zelda BotW in Smash. They all have a unique designe and move sets. The only think that says its unlickly to they add these characters to the game its because they are all dead!
    Edit: Sorry for my english :P

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 Před 3 lety

      Midna and ghirahim deserve it far more especially since the champions are such minor characters, most of the Seven Sages in oot have more relevance than them.
      Then we have vaati
      Impa
      Skull kid

  • @Hello86257
    @Hello86257 Před 2 lety +3

    This video aged like wine

  • @CJCat64
    @CJCat64 Před 3 lety +1

    "Sees pyra in thumbnail"
    "Sees 8 months ago"
    Directed by B Robert Weide

  • @iike9498
    @iike9498 Před 3 lety +2

    This aged well

  • @yeahitsjustcharlie
    @yeahitsjustcharlie Před 3 lety +22

    I feel like Decidueye would just have been Pit 2

    • @orangessbu2450
      @orangessbu2450 Před 3 lety +9

      More like Pit 3

    • @nintendowolf
      @nintendowolf Před 3 lety +1

      @@orangessbu2450 More like Pit 4 cuza Byleth

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Před 3 lety +3

      Pittoo or Pithree😂😂

    • @grotto185
      @grotto185 Před 3 lety +1

      @@brandonwilliams6119 someone gets it

    • @AlejoGaming-hv6lm
      @AlejoGaming-hv6lm Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, remember that time Decidueye protected himself with his orbital shields and blew Ultra Necrozma away with his rising uppercut and the Sacred Treasure?
      He doesn't even have a weapon...
      *I hope this is a joke*

  • @PurposeDriven7_
    @PurposeDriven7_ Před 3 lety +7

    Bro you just gave me so much hope for my boy Rex! #1 character I’ve wanted in the game since ultimate dropped!

  • @chessycopter9619
    @chessycopter9619 Před 3 lety +1

    This is why it would be nice to have a kingdom hearts protagonist in smash. Because it would add more music to the final fantasy stage. Kingdom hearts and final fantasy are pretty much the same universe(I’m sure that’s debatable but you know what I mean)

  • @jackveedock4893
    @jackveedock4893 Před 3 lety

    Decidueye's up B could be where he shoots an arrow below him boosting him up, and it also spikes like robins up B. There are hardly any spiking up b's so that would be awesome

  • @theholy1191
    @theholy1191 Před 2 lety +3

    Well this hasn't aged well.

  • @gaxth_8896
    @gaxth_8896 Před 3 lety +34

    I would want to have a xc2 character in smash more than getting the next the next pokemon game

  • @elreycharmeleon7522
    @elreycharmeleon7522 Před 2 lety +2

    Now the roaster is complete

  • @SilentGlaceon94
    @SilentGlaceon94 Před 3 lety +1

    As far as a grass pokemon rep, I'm surprised that everyone assumes that it's going to be a grass starter. Yes, it's the most likely choice, but Sakurai has pulled a fast one on us before. Who's to say that he won't pick a pokemon like Tsarenna, Lurantis, Shiftry, Roserade, etc? Let's assume that Ivysaur fills the role as the grass starter, and thus eliminating every other grass starter, including Rillaboom and Decidueye. With them out of the way, this could be an opportunity to bring in a grass type that isn't a starter but is popular for a variety of reasons.

  • @Watashi_inc
    @Watashi_inc Před 3 lety +6

    But any character can still get in even Rex. They only said he wasn’t added in the base game but he can still be a dlc fighter

    • @artificejojo
      @artificejojo Před 3 lety +2

      Personally, I kinda want Zeke and Pandy more than Rex

    • @percy3422
      @percy3422 Před 3 lety +1

      I really want Pyra in, but there’s no way she’s making it without Rex. And I hate Rex, such an annoying character. I’d rather have Jin and Lora if anything.

    • @Watashi_inc
      @Watashi_inc Před 3 lety

      Percy I agree about rex

    • @Watashi_inc
      @Watashi_inc Před 3 lety

      Jojo Senpai zeke would be a cool character

    • @wyrdfate2415
      @wyrdfate2415 Před 3 lety

      @@percy3422 Rex gets cooler later in the game

  • @Sean-fz8if
    @Sean-fz8if Před 3 lety +4

    Just give me shantae and ill shut up

  • @greencopper12
    @greencopper12 Před rokem +1

    4:49 kirby will like to have a word with you

  • @rydrake9509
    @rydrake9509 Před 3 lety +1

    tbh im sastified with the heavy weight we got when i use super armour spirit with tank style and use a heavy weight like bowser, ganondorf or a bulky shooter with high fire power like Samus/dark samus, Robin, Mii Gunner, Byelth i pretty much destroys everyone in spirit smash by brute force as long that i dont have to jump or isnt a full stage hazard that are unavoidable and dies in no time in stamina without bringing the required spirit or if its a defensive mission would screwed me up with that spirit other than that im almost unstopable and i can also solo with that spirit vs 7 lvl 9 computers all in team againts me with that armoured spirit so yeah even though mechanica and master mummy didnt make it im happy with MinMin and the rest of DLC including Byleth im not fussy who joins and if the fans wants a Xenoblades chronicles char to join sure im up for it, if another fire emblem chars shows up sure im up for it as well but im gonna watch out for the salty angry mob the way they harrassed Sakurai and gives Byleth a cold shoulder instead of a warm welcome well i gave him a warm welcome so yeah we dont need another salty angry mob who gets dumb and become real ungrateful sh*tbags for just another fire emblem char i wouldnt mind having more but i dont want to deal with those toxic again we dont need that drama, i had what i wanted and fire emblem fans got what they wanted so if i were sakurai i wouldve grant at least a few chars share on what the fans wants so we'll be all cool what we have

  • @TheRManProds
    @TheRManProds Před 3 lety +16

    Decidueye would have Been Cool in Smash!

  • @bombax1333
    @bombax1333 Před 3 lety +5

    About that thumbnail, buddy

  • @braedonschultz1929
    @braedonschultz1929 Před 3 lety +2

    One game pass later, min min from arms has been confirmed for smash, and prya and mythra from xenoblade chronicles 2 have been confirmed for smash, says sakri, pridected by siiroth

  • @vicgc96
    @vicgc96 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm waiting a rep for the AppStore games that only hoards your phone, I almost forgot: The Fire Emblems fighters.

  • @EurydiceGaming
    @EurydiceGaming Před 3 lety +5

    I know Shadow Mewtwo wont get in, but like, he only appeared once and never again

    • @pumpkin1038
      @pumpkin1038 Před 3 lety +2

      Why would they put him in just make him an alt Mewtwo

    • @tooshadows4093
      @tooshadows4093 Před 3 lety

      I honestly thought there would be more echoes in the base game, so I thought he was going to be in easily.

    • @GreenRatGaming
      @GreenRatGaming Před 3 lety

      Too Shadows me too, was thinking we’d see Hilda for Zelda and Funky Kong for DK. Might be a stretch due to lack of popularity, but I thought it might be possible for Mighty the Armadillo as a sonic echo as well.

  • @fernandobernalambriz6734
    @fernandobernalambriz6734 Před 3 lety +3

    Who elsw is here after the no nintwndo direct of 2021 where pyra is in smash now

  • @AtomBacon
    @AtomBacon Před 3 lety +2

    Initially thought this was the significance of MinMin video.

  • @Eo22I005
    @Eo22I005 Před 3 lety

    I swore i heard in a youtube video somwhere (i think it was game xplain or blocked content i think)that byleth (yeah three houses byleth)was gonna be in the base roster and he was almost finished but got cut due to time constraints
    But with dlc
    Rex is pretty much guaranteed for smash ultimate dlc i think at least