Just be blown away by the engineering that went into this. I get there’s something out there that’s cheaper that does the same, but they put in the work and designed something new and quite impressive. More than I can say I’ve done
The trolling motor on my boat could do the same thing and has been able to for YEARS. My Dad and his co-worker made trolling motors using windshield motors back in the late 60's.
Doesnt have Voith the same principle as Bowthrusters for years? Or is there a differnece im not able to spot. Also some questions, is there an efficiency benfit or what are the pros to a conventional propeller?
Pretty cool invention and certainly works but in very few practical applications. That would never work for a planing hull. I have seen this type of propulsion on large vessels like tugs and ships but in much more of a larger package so there is a use for it. Just not much in the recreational market. Maybe for sailboats if they can thin out the ring.
what is efficency compared with normal propeler. I mean the stator in center and rotor with blade out side. This is reversed blade inside(rotor) and stator outside. I think have to run at highr RPM but if the efficency is good that is important.
We're already working on using highly focused magnetic fields for submarine propulsion. Scaled down versions are already being field tested at Quantico on boats as large as 8 meters.
You can just tell that this whole electric gig is just taking off. With these more elaborate designs it's only a matter of time before most diesels will be either replaced totally for dinghy's and sailboats or at a minimum hybrid designs for cruisers.
Excellent! Now, can you miniaturize that tech and make a spinning lens cover for GoPro's of other cameras? I don't know if you know what I mean but it would be nice to have a spinning lens cover for cameras with a rim driven electric motor to fling water off for clear shots in wet conditions. Also, there was a fellow from Florida, I think, who developed a similar type of motor called the RipJet and apparently was driven by a belt above the water and kicked butt! Info no longer available...was it way ahead of its time? Quashed? Who knows? Cheers, John ;)
Interesting.. would stream staighteners be beneficial for increased efficiency of laminar flow? Obviously, you have worked out your maximum venturi effect. Have you fully explored your propeller tips efficiencies throughout the speed range. Looks like you have a winner. Keep up the good work. One more question: durability of the props? Life expectancy in varying water conditions in "real life" ...silty, muddy, weedy, salt, fresh, brackish?
Physics cannot be fooled. Large projection resistance and large seal area (friction) do the trick ... I only agree that the hydrodynamic problem of vibrations has been solved.
@@heyitsmejm4792 Especially with wildlife like large marine mammals and sharks and swimmers. .. ive known some horrors with careless and accidental open prop boats.
A 10hp outboard on that size of boat would be 3 to 4 Times faster would go all day on 5gal or less & someone such as myself would probably use less than 10 - 20 gal a season.
first things I thought when I started watching!! submerged wood, rope, thick mono or braid, dense weeds, fish, turtles, the thing looks like a $900.00 repair just waiting to happen
A simple protective ring around a prop of a standard trolling motor will add the only benefit(debatable) this has to already mass produced Trolling motors available
Hello DiyNuke, the 1st model (6kWx48V) is available on pre-sale operation up to the end of the year. For this operation, there is a special discount of 25% on the price for the RIM6 Pack (incl controller and throttle handle, but battery excl.), which lowers the price from 6000 to 4500€ vat excl. If you are interested, please leave a message on www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
@@DiyNuke Surely, as soon as we have the occasion we'll perform some comparative testings. What is sure : The RIM6 is made for displacement boats : it pushes hard, but will certainly not bring you to 15knots. It should show better perf at lower speed, and not so well at high speeds.
The housing causes a lot of drag in the water. I’m left thinking a more traditional configuration with the electric motor on top (high and dry) is better to more efficiently achieve higher speeds. There are robust variable pitch solutions already developed in a more traditional prop configuration. This might be good for a shore dinghy. The props also don’t seem to be very durable. I’d bet this configuration is susceptible to fouling and damage to the prop (and articulating mechanism) due to debris in the water. It all seems very fragile? Maybe further development might mitigate these concerns.
It would help if there is no music in some of your clip because although you claim silent...... people still want to hear what it actually sounds like?
So.. what is the purpose of this? It's 3x the size of what a prop would be on a trolling motor. It doesn't have the hp to be as fast as an outboard. So what is this for again?
Just looked it up, $6,990 charger for 8HP equiv, battery and controller then another $780 euro for charger. The equiv 8HP gas setup is $2,400 USD….ah cool technology but no thanks
Dear Steve, thanks for your comment, sorry for the late answer. If you wish you can mail us throught the website, we well answer asap. www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
Thank you for your supporting comment. We are eager to work for bigger boats. For now, we are discussing around 100 kW max but big needs for fundings. ;-)
Hello, thanks for the comment. the 1st model is available on pre-sale operation up to the end of the year. For this operation, there is a special discount of 25% on the price for the RIM6 Pack (incl controller and throttle handle, but battery excl.), which lowers the price from 6000 to 4500€ vat excl. If you are interested, please leave a message on www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
Hello Andy, Sorry to read this. We did try to reply your request, on mails of the 27 of April & 3rd of may, on 2 different mail boxes. Could be that we ended in spam box?
Thank you for your message. The 1st model is available on pre-sale operation up to the end of the year. For this operation, there is a special discount of 25% on the price for the RIM6 Pack (incl controller and throttle handle, but battery excl.), which lowers the price from 6000 to 4500€ vat excl. Our working environment is essentially industrial, which is hard to match with our start-up state. We want to make it a tool for environnemental transition. If you are interested, please leave a message on www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
Maybe it was just the audio quality, but really sounded like a lot of excessive cavitation. Seems like SUPER inefficient prop design and drive system. Could be wrong though, its definately different
aviation already use similar. The fan blades that cover the whole intake push pure air past the turbine and creates more thrust added to the jet itself, although it used the engine to turn the fan
Dear M. De Marc, sorry for this late answer. We are completing information as we go. Still on a start-up mode, hard to keep up on all subjects. We will communicate on trials done as we get them.
IN CASE OF BIG PIECES OF TREES GOING THROUGH THE MOTOR, IT WOULD BE STUCKED OR WOULD BREAKE THE MOTOR. NICE PROJECT, BRILIANT, BUT IT IS NOT FOR ALL KIND OF PLACES.
We have enough plastic floating around in our waters, don't need these plastic replaceable blades contributing to the pollution. They will break when they impact something so it's not a matter of if they become pollution but when. Hopefully you can find an ecologically friendly replacement for those blades
Dear Brett, thanks for your message. They could break but the polymer link + centrifugal force is playing for us so it remains in place until you remove it (carful to carbon splinters though). We do not expect this to happen often : no planned obsolescence with us. After this, we will invetigate more sustainable materials (flax fiber) but still a problem with polymer matrix...
is the only advantage over a conventional propeller on say a Torqeedo just that the prop guard is built in? is there a static thrust advantage per KW power? you can buy a prop guard for Torqeedo motors
Just be blown away by the engineering that went into this. I get there’s something out there that’s cheaper that does the same, but they put in the work and designed something new and quite impressive. More than I can say I’ve done
Unexpected party?!
Need fish paste fast?!
Get the new Ronco fish blitzer 2000!
Makes fish paste by the bucket load faster than you can blink an eye!
The trolling motor on my boat could do the same thing and has been able to for YEARS. My Dad and his co-worker made trolling motors using windshield motors back in the late 60's.
A trolling motor with a continuously variable pitch prop? I have never seen one. Where did you get yours?
@@TheMicroTrak 3mph instead of 2mph yay . it cant even plane that boat
Doesnt have Voith the same principle as Bowthrusters for years? Or is there a differnece im not able to spot. Also some questions, is there an efficiency benfit or what are the pros to a conventional propeller?
Amazing idea! i hope they design air jet engines using this type of technology
Nice trolling motor dude
Pretty cool invention and certainly works but in very few practical applications. That would never work for a planing hull. I have seen this type of propulsion on large vessels like tugs and ships but in much more of a larger package so there is a use for it. Just not much in the recreational market. Maybe for sailboats if they can thin out the ring.
Świetna robota. Jaki jest koszt tego silnika? bo nie znalazłem. Pozdrawiam..
Drive this straight though some tall weeds and ill be sold! That little green leaf at rhe beginning aint much..
The best is still surface drives for planing speeds.
Dyson now in the marine business?
Sucks more!
Legend
what is efficency compared with normal propeler. I mean the stator in center and rotor with blade out side. This is reversed blade inside(rotor) and stator outside. I think have to run at highr RPM but if the efficency is good that is important.
We're already working on using highly focused magnetic fields for submarine propulsion. Scaled down versions are already being field tested at Quantico on boats as large as 8 meters.
Red October? Please explain further.
You can just tell that this whole electric gig is just taking off. With these more elaborate designs it's only a matter of time before most diesels will be either replaced totally for dinghy's and sailboats or at a minimum hybrid designs for cruisers.
Where did you buy this propulsion?
Excellent! Now, can you miniaturize that tech and make a spinning lens cover for GoPro's of other cameras? I don't know if you know what I mean but it would be nice to have a spinning lens cover for cameras with a rim driven electric motor to fling water off for clear shots in wet conditions. Also, there was a fellow from Florida, I think, who developed a similar type of motor called the RipJet and apparently was driven by a belt above the water and kicked butt! Info no longer available...was it way ahead of its time? Quashed? Who knows? Cheers, John ;)
No the old fixed pitch prop was just more efficient
cool a fish shaver.... makes a net in front of the suction opening
May I see somewhere the thrust / speed diagram ?
reinventing the trolling motor??
Interesting.. would stream staighteners be beneficial for increased efficiency of laminar flow? Obviously, you have worked out your maximum venturi effect. Have you fully explored your propeller tips efficiencies throughout the speed range. Looks like you have a winner. Keep up the good work. One more question: durability of the props? Life expectancy in varying water conditions in "real life" ...silty, muddy, weedy, salt, fresh, brackish?
So if you anchor the boat in a current, can you charge the battery? Would change the equation I think.
you are going to break the nautical world, stop thinking naively
Cost and running cost. That was a huge battery! Availability? Independent test results - lots of questions and no answers as far as I can see...
Physics cannot be fooled. Large projection resistance and large seal area (friction) do the trick ... I only agree that the hydrodynamic problem of vibrations has been solved.
That battery was nowhere close to "huge"....
@@papaannefranku9693 thats a huge battery compared to the standard 12v deep cycle battery that is used for trolling motors
@@chikendagr8994 Obviously as this is not a trolling motor it is an actual motor replacement
Super patent.Pytanie ???Czy mozna to zastosować w lotnictwie?Serdecznie pozdrawiam.
I can see this being used more for fine maneuvering at lower speeds than for a main drive.
good for shallow waters. props are safe from collisions ..
@@heyitsmejm4792
Especially with wildlife like large marine mammals and sharks and swimmers. .. ive known some horrors with careless and accidental open prop boats.
Oooo nice a new food blender
Awesome idea.
Back to the drawing board....
Reminds me of a smoothy maker
A 10hp outboard on that size of boat would be 3 to 4 Times faster would go all day on 5gal or less & someone such as myself would probably use less than 10 - 20 gal a season.
Mine is 4 stroke. No gas and oil mix.. Some lakes no gas engines..this would work.
yes energy density for gas engines is way better. for lighter, short running applications electric is the way to go.
soooo a trolling motor?
Wonder what a small bit of driftwood would do to them flimsy looking blades.
Run a half dozen healthy grunyion through that sucker and your dead in the water.
first things I thought when I started watching!! submerged wood, rope, thick mono or braid, dense weeds, fish, turtles, the thing looks like a $900.00 repair just waiting to happen
You mad, a couple of plastic fins... cheap as chips..
They pass right through them in the middle, or bounce off the shroud and go around. Unlike a traditional prop
A simple protective ring around a prop of a standard trolling motor will add the only benefit(debatable) this has to already mass produced Trolling motors available
This design can’t get tangled. A big advantage when seaweed entanglement is problematic
Any progress in the comercial side? And i am curious about the power it delivers
And how does in compare to an normal outboard style electric.
Hello DiyNuke, the 1st model (6kWx48V) is available on pre-sale operation up to the end of the year. For this operation, there is a special discount of 25% on the price for the RIM6 Pack (incl controller and throttle handle, but battery excl.), which lowers the price from 6000 to 4500€ vat excl.
If you are interested, please leave a message on www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
@@DiyNuke Surely, as soon as we have the occasion we'll perform some comparative testings. What is sure : The RIM6 is made for displacement boats : it pushes hard, but will certainly not bring you to 15knots. It should show better perf at lower speed, and not so well at high speeds.
looks like my 3 hp evinrude could beat that in a race
Soooo, it’s a trolling motor???
What is the PRICE? _____________
Gotta be expensive if I need to fill an order form to even find out.
My question is always what would be the cost of something like this
Probably more than just having a self feathering prop which have been around forever.
Probably a lot less reliable too!
@@spider0804 Not sure if you realize, that's the entire motor, not just a prop.
@@batdowg Great, does the cost and reliability rival a traditional fuel or electric drive? Looks too complicated to be either.
yea i think its a week piece of shit !!!!!!!!!!
@@spider0804 on the contrary it is much more simple... no cooling no transmission. and 30% more power.
soooo... a big trolling motor???? wonder if it has more thrust than a large MinnKota. The speed that little white boat was going makes me wonder :(
yes it is
The housing causes a lot of drag in the water. I’m left thinking a more traditional configuration with the electric motor on top (high and dry) is better to more efficiently achieve higher speeds. There are robust variable pitch solutions already developed in a more traditional prop configuration. This might be good for a shore dinghy. The props also don’t seem to be very durable. I’d bet this configuration is susceptible to fouling and damage to the prop (and articulating mechanism) due to debris in the water. It all seems very fragile? Maybe further development might mitigate these concerns.
Why is there no pricing available on hy-generation.com ?
you have to buy it to see it's cost
more than likely, if you have to ask what it costs then you can't afford it yet?
Need some comparison numbers for this to be meaningful.
This motor could actually be used to make bicycles electric or even motorcycles I believe 2 motors will be required
So much added drag in that motor cowling
It would help if there is no music in some of your clip because although you claim silent...... people still want to hear what it actually sounds like?
So.. what is the purpose of this? It's 3x the size of what a prop would be on a trolling motor. It doesn't have the hp to be as fast as an outboard. So what is this for again?
The future, when fossil fuels run out.
rim driven propulsion
Should try getting a partnership with Tesla for their batteries.. but great work and advancement to you.
Pretty cool, not quite there to replace 150hp Merc.
150 hp eltric out boàrd 70,mioe rànge télsà new calls 81 mioke rañge
YES!
What's the real advantage?
buy the way, it looks like a short version of worm drive.
Price please?
What is price for this and battery pack?
Just looked it up, $6,990 charger for 8HP equiv, battery and controller then another $780 euro for charger. The equiv 8HP gas setup is $2,400 USD….ah cool technology but no thanks
I'm in Vietnam. I want to buy an engine. Can you help me please?
o.k adapt this to a fishing kayak pdl drive platform " drop in replacement" and i will buy 2.
good for you
Update please on these please where to contact?
Dear Steve, thanks for your comment, sorry for the late answer. If you wish you can mail us throught the website, we well answer asap. www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
Excellent, just make another more big for put in Yachts!!!
Thank you for your supporting comment. We are eager to work for bigger boats. For now, we are discussing around 100 kW max but big needs for fundings. ;-)
What would be the cost of something like this is it even remotely affordable
Hello, thanks for the comment.
the 1st model is available on pre-sale operation up to the end of the year. For this operation, there is a special discount of 25% on the price for the RIM6 Pack (incl controller and throttle handle, but battery excl.), which lowers the price from 6000 to 4500€ vat excl. If you are interested, please leave a message on www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
@@HyGeneration 😂 nice price...
@@HyGeneration your design has a tremendous amount of wasted energy!
@@dred5375 i would like to see you will improve on it ?
@@horaciostjeward it's a horrible design! I would not improve on it!
Pretty Sad I'd try to get the quotation from Hy-Generation over the website but noone reply my mail.
Hello Andy, Sorry to read this.
We did try to reply your request, on mails of the 27 of April & 3rd of may, on 2 different mail boxes. Could be that we ended in spam box?
@@HyGeneration i just send you another email. please resend the quotation to that email. hope to hear from you soon.
It sure is creating a lot of air in the water
What's with that?
I'm buying this device send me the bill.
Looks like a Dyson vacuum
windtunnel
I want the sound of a four stroke.
I hope that is going to be cheap
and easy for everybody to buy compared to the conventional
eco friendly should be descent to the needs of the planet
Thank you for your message.
The 1st model is available on pre-sale operation up to the end of the year. For this operation, there is a special discount of 25% on the price for the RIM6 Pack (incl controller and throttle handle, but battery excl.), which lowers the price from 6000 to 4500€ vat excl.
Our working environment is essentially industrial, which is hard to match with our start-up state. We want to make it a tool for environnemental transition.
If you are interested, please leave a message on www.hy-generation.com/contactez-nous
I highly doubt that this 'solution' is more eco friendly than using a second hand outboard...
@@nonegone7170
Propably if you calculate all the aspects
Very nice. We are slowly evolving out of that hydrocarbon combustion crap.
I LIKE IT, BUT WHERE DOES THE ELECTRICITY COME FROM TO CHARGE THE BATTERIES...NO WIND NO SUN??? NUKE IS THE NASWER.
I'll stick with my outboard!
HY-GEN WHERE IS YOUR HYDROELECTRIC VERSION ?
The best and it's ecofriendly......👍👍
can someone tels me what is the point of this?
Doubt its of any use against a current
Why over think a simple tiller engine something breaks on yours I'll be waiting weeks for parts a gas tiller I could get parts anywhere
Not when he gets market share, it takes weeks for me to get outboard parts where I live.
Not for use in weedy or kelp areas, for sure!😆🖖✌🇺🇸
Neat, just needs a yacht with solar cells on it and some rechargable batteries
Or use salt water batteries...
How about on a 40 ft house boat
bug ss houres boar 36 kw sókar ¹86 kw baters 50 mioe eabge
@@sharonbraselton4302 what the french
a mini kota out board is cheaper, smaller and proven. GL
Maybe it was just the audio quality, but really sounded like a lot of excessive cavitation. Seems like SUPER inefficient prop design and drive system. Could be wrong though, its definately different
Cavitation looked bad..Unless that wasn't cavitation?
This technology could be adapted to aviation as replacement for the turbine of the jet engine.
Hello M. Desrumeaux, Thanks for your comment. Fully agreeing, we'll see if we get there.
You don’t seem to understand how jet engines work
@@AsloAso True, but my company for example isn’t using jet engines, they are electric. The point is to get off fossil fuels.
@@HyGeneration I’m trying to get is there.
aviation already use similar. The fan blades that cover the whole intake push pure air past the turbine and creates more thrust added to the jet itself, although it used the engine to turn the fan
Nylon fishing sting will cut a prop shaft off. Ive seen it!
Very little technical information.. Same for web page
Yes
Dear M. De Marc, sorry for this late answer. We are completing information as we go. Still on a start-up mode, hard to keep up on all subjects. We will communicate on trials done as we get them.
seems like a lot of drag ,at least the fins are quick change,,weeds ,, logs .wildlife
Put some fishing line threw it
What if a shark gets its head stuck in it? 🦈
wow
IN CASE OF BIG PIECES OF TREES GOING THROUGH THE MOTOR, IT WOULD BE STUCKED OR WOULD BREAKE THE MOTOR. NICE PROJECT, BRILIANT, BUT IT IS NOT FOR ALL KIND OF PLACES.
Ps4Pro? This you? Or us? As I should say?
We have enough plastic floating around in our waters, don't need these plastic replaceable blades contributing to the pollution. They will break when they impact something so it's not a matter of if they become pollution but when. Hopefully you can find an ecologically friendly replacement for those blades
Dear Brett, thanks for your message. They could break but the polymer link + centrifugal force is playing for us so it remains in place until you remove it (carful to carbon splinters though). We do not expect this to happen often : no planned obsolescence with us. After this, we will invetigate more sustainable materials (flax fiber) but still a problem with polymer matrix...
yes wé do
But it’s really just a new type of prop design for a trolling motor right? Cool, but not game changing.
is the only advantage over a conventional propeller on say a Torqeedo just that the prop guard is built in? is there a static thrust advantage per KW power? you can buy a prop guard for Torqeedo motors
Looks less restricted.
yes it íß
Will replace any high torque petrol motor and out perform
It never got up on plane.
yeßvit is 8 hp 12 goot gamfíßh poly çraftv3 metyß
if these were on ships they could do less damage to whales etc
Bib bearing OD and it's design seem's to be a weak point isn't it?
nope
the elice is too complicated, if you hit a rock, everything will be broken.
wroñg
even move of a fish shreader than normal props
No price and you're in France? Um...
Мембранный ещё проще..
My minn kota ultrex is smaller, better looking, faster, and it has power steering. I think ill stick to the ultrex lmao
wroñge
Vioth huh....🤔
Hello M. Roper, Hy-Generation is certainly not that big, but i wish it was ;-)
lol sped up the video to make it look faster
^5
For 6kw it is not much speed.