Vision Marine E Motion 180E - First Mass-produced electric Outboard engine
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2023
- Test of the Vision Marine E-Motion 180E - The first mass production electric Outboard engine. 180 hp, plenty of torque and all of this in silence
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I hasten to add that I loved this video and the performance of this electric outboard engine!
The motor is not a problem. The battery capacity and size are issues. More battery more range and of course more weight on the boat and less storage space.
Yes but 400l tank on 7.5m rib is not very light, thats 300kg.
Not only the battery size and weight, but the cost. This 180 HP electric outboard will cost around $120,000 when factoring in motor, batteries, controls and all rigging parts. New 200 HP Mercury is around $20,000, call it $25,000 with rigging. If this boat owner only goes 30 miles per outing it would take decades to make up that extra $100K in fuel savings. Big electric outboards (over 15 HP) are a nice idea, but not there yet.
With a few mods, it would work submerged. It could redefine the definition of 'dive boat.'
✨WE ARE SAILING 💚🪂⚡️
I say the way to go is to build direct ammonia fuel cells to power electric boats. These will solve the range and weight issues. Batteries in boats are not the best mix.
Wouldn't designing a generator in the lower unit to recharge at the same time it is being used be more efficient than relying on a plug to recharge?
You've essentially described a perpetual motion machine which, according to the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, cannot exist or at least cannot exist "efficiently" or allow any net gain in energy. Unloaded, a generator or alternator, is easy to spin by hand. However, put it under load (such as charging a battery or powering an electronic device), and it can become very difficult to turn. If you've ever switched on a high-power car audio amplifier or headlights (in an older car that uses the old inefficient round incandescent headlights), you can hear the RPM's of the engine drop as the alternator suddenly sees a significant electrical load (I use an older car for this example because the computer in a modern Fuel Injected car would quickly sense the load and automatically increase the RPM's).
If you connected a generator, or an alternator, as you suggested and loaded it enough to get some useful energy out of it, it would place a significant drag on the boat or the boats motor. This in turn would require more power from the boat's motor to compensate. You can't get something for nothing. You'd end up using a lot more energy to power the boat. The differential would actually be greater than the small amount your generator would produce.
I understand but design a hub to be able to harness the movement Without being a load, it would be four mini-stators with no parasitic loss, because of 4 hubs available. Wouldn't that work?
No it would not work, as above you have described perpetual motion. Bigger hub would make it worse too. We are a battery breakthrough away from this “really” working
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video could i get the website as im interested in this technology
visionmarinetechnologies.com/e-motion-180e/
This technology is heading in the right direction. Epropulsion in the marine sector is needed and welcomed. Kudoa. #onemillionboater pledge
The battery is good
how heavy is the 180hp pkg. ?
400 Lbs
@@yachtandseatv7160 Not including batteries.
Of course @@96thundercat
Awesome and about time. Why not hydraulics to replace gears?
They are working with McLaren to develop another kind of gears, we will see...
Whats the price.
Around 120 K the complete system with batteries and controls. But It's not available like that, only on OEM, you can't buy it separately for the moment.
30 miles 💀 did more than that on my skiff during a day of fishing. My current boat has 300 miles of range on a tank. I’ll go up to 75 miles one way offshore in my current boat.
and are you taking the boat out on your EV truck?
Yes, On a day of playing at the lake with family we usually put 20 miles on the boat. Lots of throttling up, running full throttle and pulling tubes which requires more power.
Then a day of fishing, even inshore or freshwater we may travel 10-20 miles.
It is a very cool concept for those who prefer leisure time on boat, but for not for someone who uses a boat for distance, speed or loads.
Definitely not for a fisherman
How long till the first lithium boat fire?
I bet sailors said the same thing about the magnesium in gas outboards... which caused plenty of fires.
OMG what a major fail. Considering the number of boat fires that occur every year from gasoline engines your comment show's you're rather benighted. To avoid looking like a complete moron when attempting to traduce EV's and Li-ion batteries, you might want to spend a little time performing at least a modicum of RESEARCH.
If Sharrow Propeller™loop design is installed in this engine, the range will be 25% greater.
I know two people with sharrow props, neither enjoy that kind of efficiency gain. Much much lower gains than 25%
Sir I am India then speak in your electric motor then have India give me purchase now how to tell purchase now electric motor
I don't sell this engine. You need to contact Vision Marine
Be ok as a Saturday afternoon family ski boat .....but to get offshore need 100hrs of battery life bare minimum to take it seriously as opposition against petrol n deisel
100 hours? Outboard engines need service every 100h, how long do you stay off shore without coming back to marina 4 days?
Have a spare 15hp twostroke on board, just incase.
The way EVs are setting on fire, I doubt this technology.
Im making boat motors using tesla motors and battery packs
Please, send me more information
That outboard in installed too low on the transom by the way. Another fail!
That thing is giving me a headache just through YT, I cannot imagine in person. Terrible!
I noticed that too. When the water started blowing up around the motor it was very obvious. I'm sure they could get better range and speed if they installed it correctly.
Maybe they need to study up on that, or the use of a jack plate. LOL
Yet hydrogen technology is fully available and functional
For fuel cell applications perhaps.
The hydrogen technology is coming but not totally ready for boats and mostly for small boats. Sunreef will produce one in 2024.
30 miles is not good range at all, normal range for boat is 200-250 miles, if I get this boat I should stop in middle of my day to do full recharge so I can get back home
The horrible, whining noise coming from the gearbox is a no go. The range more importantly, is also a no go. Don’t forget the cost of a electrician to wire the 220 to your dock.🤦♂️
You don't need the 220, a regular plug is enough
Omg, that motor will never sit on my boat with that high pitch sound, not only is it loud it is a terrible sound, if it was completely quiet like an electric car (without artificially generated sound) it would be compelling. But to change a gas engines nice growling sound to that? Nope. One positive though, it looks good.
That gear whine is going to kill sales. It is a higher pitch than a regular outboard. Fail!
You are right, that's why the brand is working with McLaren to change that.
@@yachtandseatv7160 I made an electric outboard, and when I had this problem I went to a direct coupling. No gears, no gear whine.
My Suzuki is quieter than this
30 nMi is double what the "average" boater uses? are you kidding me? My offshore tuna trips alone are over 130nmi. all on my 2007 225 Evinrude. hasnt skipped a beat in 16 years, and got it for $3k. 40 miles is just a joke. and thats just at cruise. long long way to go on the water if you want to beat gasoline or diesel my friends.
This is a statistic, nothing more. you're one of those people who does a lot of sailing, bravo!
Right, but... there will come a day when the electric hp is cheaper than the gas hp. Last year the battery KWH halved in price and will reduce by 40% this year. Once tech is learned, it's there for ever. The future is electric.
@@jamesdonaghy9143 umm no. one again its a matter of range and weight. both things batteries will never be nearly as good at on a weight sensitive high load scenario. can get away with this in a car, but not a boat or an aircraft. the negatives are just too insurmountable for the forseeable future. im not sure what you mean by price being down 40%... your saying the price of electric outboards are down 40%? impossible. and again, where are you charging on the water for the vast majority that doesnt have a private dock/shore power?
@ct1762
The price reductions I mentioned concern battery units, which will eventually translate into outboard prices.
The wind and solar sources are also improving in watts per dollar and watts per Kilo, with no clear limits established, going forward. Cases where fossil fuels are the smart choice will diminish going forward until they become obsolete, a happy prospect for all biological entities.