Fantastic, at 73 I have been jigging around the house like a teenager. My brother used to buy the Lonnie records and I can remember him playing the on his gigantic stereo system (which I was not allowed to touch) officially" 🤫. There were two (little known) songs which he sung The Party's Over and Over the Rainbow which I still think are the best versions of these timeless songs. Although Lonnie passed away over 20 years ago he has provided decades of enjoyment and memories and I am sure will do for many more.
My friend Jacky Graham took me to see Lonnie when we were at school In Glasgow back in the 50’s his Mum bought the tickets.Was great,just really great.
On this day in 1959 {July 24th} Lonnie Donegan's "The Battle of New Orleans" peaked at #2 on the United Kingdom's Singles chart, the #1 record was "Dream Lover"* by Bobby Darin... The two weeks after being at #2 it was at #3, then it moved back up the chart to #2, and #1 record for that week was "Living Doll" by Cliff Richard and the Drifters... Between 1955 and 1962 the Glasgow, Scotland native had twenty nine records on the U.K. Singles chart, seventeen made the Top 10 with three reaching #1, "Cumberland Gap" for 5 weeks in 1957, "Gamblin' Man" for 2 weeks in 1957, and "My Old Man's A Dustman" for 4 weeks in 1960... Anthony James 'Lonnie' Donegan passed away at the age of 71 on November 3rd, 2002... May he R.I.P. * And from the 'For What It's Worth' department; "Dream Lover" peaked at #2 {for 1 week} on America's Billboard's Hot Top 100 chart, the week it was at #2, the #1 record for that week was "The Battle of New Orleans", but not Lonnie's version, it was Johnny Horton's version in the top spot...
I'm sure Johnnie Horton would have loved to play this song with Lonnie ,but wow man coming from your side of the pond I would never thought that was possible 😊
Oh shit I'm American and never in my drunk ass mind would ever thought I d hear this sang by a British group ..but hey ,in hindsight as a kid ,I do remember my dad taking me with him to play music with a British army guy and they both sang this song on their acoustic guitars ..what a show of display they both put on to that song 😅😅😅
These days it may sound a little unbelievable but this is a song I clearly remember from my childhood and I am a kid from '99. My dad used to sing it to me in the funniest way.
I know right?! Gotta love the section from 1:10 - 1:25 . You can see how they're justa bunch of guys being dudes and having fun. Bass player means business from start to finish!
No one in the UK ever bothered to question Lonnie's lyrics for the song, people in the UK didn't know much about the history and the names of Generals were not important to us in 1958..
The song - and lyrics - were written by Jimmy Driftwood of Snowball, Arkansas, to help him teach his high school students American history. Look him up: a great singer and prolific songwriter. Lonnie does a great version.
@@malcolmdean2303 how come that practically everybody who covered that song leaves out the bit where the French helped the Americans defeat the English and French girls danced with the American victors? I'm sure Jimmy Driftwood put that in on purpose and I assume Jimmy was fully aware that without French help the Americans would have likely lost the revolution and the War of 1812 against the british.
For the British the Napoleonic wars were important at that time as they were wars of national survival. The war of 1812 was a sideshow for the British. For the first 2 years of that war the British successfully defended Canada with scant resources. After Napoleon 1st surrender the British then went on the offensive. Although they burned the white house the Americans fought off the invasion. The war of 1812 was a war which favoured defenders. Neither side was strong enough to impose its will on the other so the war ended in a draw. If the British felt embarrassed at losing at new Orleans in 1815 they felt prouder at winning at Waterloo later that year.
The original word was "fight the 'bloody' British", but that version was blocked by the Beeb to be broadcast.That's why he had to replace it. (Those were the days!)
Charted in 1959, reaching UK no 2 in August. Curiously there were only five no. 2's that year; probably the lowest-ever no. 2 score in a year. That was the fourth of the five.
This is the one I always remember, growing up. Yer actual "skiffle group" .....a Brit singing an' anti-Brit song.....and making it 'work'! Nice one Lonnie! R.I.P
Reminds me of my teens and 2-Eyes in London's Soho; couldn't help but think of this song yesterday when I heard of Russia's departure from Ukraine's east! Good olde skiffle days
The British retreated to fort bowyer and defeated the Americans there. It was the last battle of the war. They had to hand fort bowyer back within days of taking it because the peace treaty said both sides would go back to the 1812 borders.
Lonnie Donegan recorded his version of this song, which reached number two in the U.K. charts, soon after Johnny Horton, who had a U.S. number one hit with it. There is an odd difference between the two versions. Lonnie makes references to being commanded by Colonel Packenham, who was actually commanded the British forces, even though the song is told from the perspective of the Americans. The original lyrics referred to Colonel Jackson (also by his nickname Old Hickory), later President Jackson, who did command the U.S. forces. No idea why Lonnie changed the lyrics, but a great song either way!
It seems even odder a British artist recording a song about where we got beaten by American soldiers. The lyrics also had to be changed from 'Bloody British' as well due to the BBC if I recall.
Grew up listening to the Johnny Horton version driving with my old man on 101.1 in New York. Never heard this version. Ironic coming from an Englishman.
To keep all the pedants happy who spotted the "Deliberate" mistake where Lonnie thinks that Col. Pakenham was American instead of British.....I was recently in the drawing room of Tullynally Castle in Ireland where this gentleman's portrait is on the wall alongside all the other ancestors of Lord Longford whose great great great grandfather he was....Lord Longford of course was the bald, uncaped crusader who visited bad people in prison and led a crusade against pornography....a truly good if possibly over naive person....He has now gone to heaven with Lonnie who I'm sure refused to play the harp up there and is annoying Longford with the washboard instead...........
Watch out for 2 of the girls singing with Long John Baldry. Apart from being very attractive their performance was great. The iceing on the cake was the backing group...Sounds Incorporated.
I never understood it sounds like he's saying Colonel packingham but why is he not saying the rest of the words differently? He still saying against the British and if you seen the American version why did he say colonel Packingham?
I like this version very much with the great vocal by Lonnie Donegan. However, surely a mix up in the lyrics between Colonel Pakenham, leader of the British forces and General Jackson(Old Hickory) of the American forces. How could anti-British forces have been alongside Packenham(as sung at start of sung) and how was it Pakenham who apparently told Americans to hold off fire until they saw the British in the eye?
+chrisgg I thought Pakenham was writing either about trees or The Scramble for Africa....? Whomever advised - it was good advice for guerrilla warfare...back in the day.
General Edward Pakenham(formerly Colonel) was commander of the British forces at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814-15, while General Andrew Jackson("Old Hickory") was commander of the Americans. Pakenham died in the battle. Lonnie Donegan sings that "In 1814 we took a little trip, along with Colonel Pakenham down the mighty Missisip'. We took some bacon and we took a little beans and fought the blooming British at the town of New Orleans"'" and later "Pakenham said we could take 'em by surprise(i.e. the British) if we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye". That scenario seems highly unlikely. There was another version of this song going around in the 60s sung from a British point of view, so maybe the words of the two songs got mixed up.
jrgboy The original version by Jimmy Driftwood and recorded by Johnny Horton is correct. Lonnie changed the words - very definitely his fault. Singers do this kind of thing: Joan Baez altered the "Night they drove old Dixie Down", Donovan changed Buffy St Marie's "Universal Soldier". The changes are never improvements.
"col. patton"? "col. jackson!" "bloomin'"? learnt it as "bloody" in the US in second grade. No idea until high school (and watching monty python) that that was a swear word! still not sure why...
No "Patton"--Pakenham. He was the British commander and Lonnie was substituting it for "jackson" as a joke. Not really sure who would have gotten joke.
It was hard to easily check these things in the 1950s of course without a trip to the library - a slight advantage for him! Lonnie was a major instigator of the guitar revolution in the UK. The guitar amplified solos sound pretty tame now but many of us were grabbed by that sound and stretched notes. I wonder WTF music (and the Beatles) here would have been like without that impetus. The only way you could see performers like the Everlys was to watch the blurry! Perry Como tape conversions (525 to 405 lines) every week on UK tv. :-)
I am now 76 yrs old and remember this when it was released, whooo so many years ago but still sounds good thank you.
Fantastic, at 73 I have been jigging around the house like a teenager. My brother used to buy the Lonnie records and I can remember him playing the on his gigantic stereo system (which I was not allowed to touch) officially" 🤫. There were two (little known) songs which he sung The Party's Over and Over the Rainbow which I still think are the best versions of these timeless songs. Although Lonnie passed away over 20 years ago he has provided decades of enjoyment and memories and I am sure will do for many more.
Life doesn't get any better than listening to this song. Never been anyone like Lonnie.
poor you
The bass player is pure gold
The Battle of New Orleans was the first 45 I bought when I was 14 years old played on my new record player, drove my parents mad !.
My friend Jacky Graham took me to see Lonnie when we were at school In Glasgow back in the 50’s his Mum bought the tickets.Was great,just really great.
As child of the 50s with an older brother I love Lonnie
Lonnie was one of a kind , never met anyone who didn't like him
David Rogers My Dad didn’t, made me turn him off.
Robin Williams had similar energy and character. Both looked similar, but were unique too.
Always bloody one, what is there to dislike?
@@josephinebennington7247 because of this song... he was hated by many!
@@tomsurrey2252 It wasn’t the song at all. It was Lonnie himself…considered him rough and rude…mainly down to the lyrics of My Old Man’s a Dustman.
Skiffle or ballads - Lonnie nailed it every time.
Finally got to see Lonnie not to long before he died.Wow ! what an entertainer,he was brilliant.Feel privileged to have been there.
The best ever this where pop music began just look at the guy on the double bass
I just see one bass
Marshall Grant was doing that in the 50s
Yesssss!!!
He was so entertaining so addictive
Lonnie was a star. He still shines brightly. RIP.
On this day in 1959 {July 24th} Lonnie Donegan's "The Battle of New Orleans" peaked at #2 on the United Kingdom's Singles chart, the #1 record was "Dream Lover"* by Bobby Darin...
The two weeks after being at #2 it was at #3, then it moved back up the chart to #2, and #1 record for that week was "Living Doll" by Cliff Richard and the Drifters...
Between 1955 and 1962 the Glasgow, Scotland native had twenty nine records on the U.K. Singles chart, seventeen made the Top 10 with three reaching #1, "Cumberland Gap" for 5 weeks in 1957, "Gamblin' Man" for 2 weeks in 1957, and "My Old Man's A Dustman" for 4 weeks in 1960...
Anthony James 'Lonnie' Donegan passed away at the age of 71 on November 3rd, 2002...
May he R.I.P.
* And from the 'For What It's Worth' department; "Dream Lover" peaked at #2 {for 1 week} on America's Billboard's Hot Top 100 chart, the week it was at #2, the #1 record for that week was "The Battle of New Orleans", but not Lonnie's version, it was Johnny Horton's version in the top spot...
I'm sure Johnnie Horton would have loved to play this song with Lonnie ,but wow man coming from your side of the pond I would never thought that was possible 😊
Reminds me of good times listening to music on a Sunday with my Dad.
Great song, great singer.
This was the fist record i bought at 16 still play it today my all time favourite he was very unique
Oh shit I'm American and never in my drunk ass mind would ever thought I d hear this sang by a British group ..but hey ,in hindsight as a kid ,I do remember my dad taking me with him to play music with a British army guy and they both sang this song on their acoustic guitars ..what a show of display they both put on to that song 😅😅😅
Magic, pure magic. Exactly the same effect as when I was thirteen (when I could hardly handle it ..). Just pure joy. Thank you Lonnie - what a gift. x
As kids , We played the single record so often that it wore several neadls out!
These days it may sound a little unbelievable but this is a song I clearly remember from my childhood and I am a kid from '99. My dad used to sing it to me in the funniest way.
Perfection. A master at work.
Thanks for sharing this. Who in their right mind would thumbs down this video? Fools.
I want their address so I can go pay them a visit
People who believe they have a right to express their personal opinion on something they don't like
Great song from the 30's written by Jimmy Driftwood, a teacher from Arkansas who wrote songs to teach the children.
My dad used to sing this song to me when I was a kid. Always loved it, but never knew who sang it!
Glenn Johnson Pure magic!!Lonnie at his best.Thankyou for the upload.
Me and my grampy who passed away used to sing this together all the time ☺️
Never heard of lonnie Donegan but find it awsome 👍👍
The Bass Player shows true Extasy. Pure Gold
I know right?! Gotta love the section from 1:10 - 1:25 . You can see how they're justa bunch of guys being dudes and having fun. Bass player means business from start to finish!
how cool is he
The Battle of New Orleans actually occurred on the eighth of January 1815 not 1814!
I loved Lonnie Donegan, still do 2019
wonderful version of the song; this rocks
You can see the singer and the baseman have a lot of fun. And I also.
I wish more history was learnt this way then I might have paid more attention to it at school.
So nice to revisit my younger times ❤Dancing Spirit Unfolding
The lyrics seem to combine both of Johnny Horton's versions, the British and the American releases. This version has a nice rockabilly tinge to it.
I love this song !
No one in the UK ever bothered to question Lonnie's lyrics for the song, people in the UK didn't know much about the history and the names of Generals were not important to us in 1958..
The song - and lyrics - were written by Jimmy Driftwood of Snowball, Arkansas, to help him teach his high school students American history. Look him up: a great singer and prolific songwriter. Lonnie does a great version.
@@malcolmdean2303 how come that practically everybody who covered that song leaves out the bit where the French helped the Americans defeat the English and French girls danced with the American victors? I'm sure Jimmy Driftwood put that in on purpose and I assume Jimmy was fully aware that without French help the Americans would have likely lost the revolution and the War of 1812 against the british.
not important in 2020. Its history and it gone a long time ago
@@4wdthinking WTF are you talking about?
For the British the Napoleonic wars were important at that time as they were wars of national survival. The war of 1812 was a sideshow for the British. For the first 2 years of that war the British successfully defended Canada with scant resources. After Napoleon 1st surrender the British then went on the offensive. Although they burned the white house the Americans fought off the invasion. The war of 1812 was a war which favoured defenders. Neither side was strong enough to impose its will on the other so the war ended in a draw. If the British felt embarrassed at losing at new Orleans in 1815 they felt prouder at winning at Waterloo later that year.
You can't listen to this without tapping your feet,
So many memories of dancing with my grandad and my brother
The original word was "fight the 'bloody' British", but that version was blocked by the Beeb to be broadcast.That's why he had to replace it. (Those were the days!)
Yes, had to change it to ruddy, other songs that used words such as - God, Lord or Hell were also banned
WE LOVED THIS SONG IN THE 1950
Excellent, Thanks for posting
love this song.
Love this song, unique x
Great stuff . Some of the early British pop stuff is embarrassing , this is top notch .
Charted in 1959, reaching UK no 2 in August. Curiously there were only five no. 2's that year; probably the lowest-ever no. 2 score in a year. That was the fourth of the five.
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Never forgotten Great man great music loved all around the world
Brilliant,don’t make good singers like that anymore,you can hear every words,xx
Well now I see where the Beatles got it from, it all makes sense now!
This was certainly done tongue in cheek!!
Exactly! I'm an British American and one difference I find in the USA is Americans don't often understand our self-deprecating humor..
My first ever concert, I was about 10
Proper music.
My grandparents has a LD mixtape and it’s awesome
My first 45 record.
LONNIE THE MAN
Awesome foot tapper
the best version its got a lot more life in it
why do people always compare .I love Johnny horton very much too different style but great
He needs to learn the lyrics
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This is the one I always remember, growing up. Yer actual "skiffle group" .....a Brit singing an' anti-Brit song.....and making it 'work'! Nice one Lonnie! R.I.P
I think that was the funny fact of it XD
He didn’t write this song
@@graysight Irish mother, Scottish father while 'Brits' equalled the English.
Lonnie chose to play that very song on purpose and it wasn't for fun.
fine
It ain’t skiffle if there is no washboard with thimbles and a one-string broomstick Bass. Honestleeeeeeeee...
This was the first record I ever had
I find it most strange that a British group would sing a song about the defeat of the British in the war of 1812.
Its his song. Lonnie Donagan wrote the song
It was written by Jimmy Driftwood, an Arkansas teacher and performed by Johnny Horton in 1959.
Lonnie Donagan did not write this song
I find it strange that you find it strange that a musician would sing anything to make a few bob….
We don't hold grudges for too long. 🇺🇸🇬🇧😍👍🏻
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Nice cover!
Reminds me of my teens and 2-Eyes in London's Soho; couldn't help but think of this song yesterday when I heard of Russia's departure from Ukraine's east! Good olde skiffle days
Legend has it the British are still runnin
Too funny !
The British retreated to fort bowyer and defeated the Americans there. It was the last battle of the war. They had to hand fort bowyer back within days of taking it because the peace treaty said both sides would go back to the 1812 borders.
How did Vietnam go for you guys?
And more recently......
Lonnie Donegan recorded his version of this song, which reached number two in the U.K. charts, soon after Johnny Horton, who had a U.S. number one hit with it. There is an odd difference between the two versions. Lonnie makes references to being commanded by Colonel Packenham, who was actually commanded the British forces, even though the song is told from the perspective of the Americans. The original lyrics referred to Colonel Jackson (also by his nickname Old Hickory), later President Jackson, who did command the U.S. forces. No idea why Lonnie changed the lyrics, but a great song either way!
It seems even odder a British artist recording a song about where we got beaten by American soldiers. The lyrics also had to be changed from 'Bloody British' as well due to the BBC if I recall.
Grew up listening to the Johnny Horton version driving with my old man on 101.1 in New York. Never heard this version. Ironic coming from an Englishman.
Have you noticed in this version Lonnie puts the British commander Pakenham as the American one?
Sorry James Lonnie was born in Glasgow and his Mum was Irish.
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my, da , fav,, Donny,!!
Lonnie is brilliant have a to Jimmy Driftwoods version
YIHAAA geiler song vor ever
use to try sing this , but was boxcar willie singing !!
I have his son Peter doing a gig at the pub my wife and I have on May 4th
eddy coulson May the 4th be with you
Exellent
remeber my Da telling about , when i was a kid, in, mid / late70s,!
The missing link
Well Lonnie was a Geezer.........Top Notch.........................X
Lonnies Vocal range was very wide his scatting is great as well I dont think he ever sand the song exact as the version before Marvelous stuff
I've.l managed to find the 8mm film for the video
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This is the birth of the Beatles
I might be wrong but i seem to remember that the establishment tried to ban this record for being unpatriotic ?
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To keep all the pedants happy who spotted the "Deliberate" mistake where Lonnie thinks that Col. Pakenham was American instead of British.....I was recently in the drawing room of Tullynally Castle in Ireland where this gentleman's portrait is on the wall alongside all the other ancestors of Lord Longford whose great great great grandfather he was....Lord Longford of course was the bald, uncaped crusader who visited bad people in prison and led a crusade against pornography....a truly good if possibly over naive person....He has now gone to heaven with Lonnie who I'm sure refused to play the harp up there and is annoying Longford with the washboard instead...........
Reminds me of that cajun guy
mint
I am sorry for the Royal Highlanders, they were brave soldiers.
Watch out for 2 of the girls singing with Long John Baldry. Apart from being very attractive their performance was great. The iceing on the cake was the backing group...Sounds Incorporated.
My grandparents were gonna see him but he died
Bad luck...
@@williamstone436 yep but my dad bought them a Lonnie Donegan autograph
Could anyone tell me what guitar Les Bennett’s is playing please.
It's a hofner president or committee.
The one on the left.
Who is this goofball? I like him!
THE ENGLISH MAN WHO ASKED THE YANK IF HE HAD A MATCH I WANT TO LIGHT A FUCKING FIRE
He's got Packenham in command of the Americans.
Packenham was the British commander, for God's sake!
I never understood it sounds like he's saying Colonel packingham but why is he not saying the rest of the words differently? He still saying against the British and if you seen the American version why did he say colonel Packingham?
I like this version very much with the great vocal by Lonnie Donegan. However, surely a mix up in the lyrics between Colonel Pakenham, leader of the British forces and General Jackson(Old Hickory) of the American forces. How could anti-British forces have been alongside Packenham(as sung at start of sung) and how was it Pakenham who apparently told Americans to hold off fire until they saw the British in the eye?
+chrisgg I thought Pakenham was writing either about trees or The Scramble for Africa....?
Whomever advised - it was good advice for guerrilla warfare...back in the day.
General Edward Pakenham(formerly Colonel) was commander of the British forces at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814-15, while General Andrew Jackson("Old Hickory") was commander of the Americans. Pakenham died in the battle. Lonnie Donegan sings that "In 1814 we took a little trip, along with Colonel Pakenham down the mighty Missisip'. We took some bacon and we took a little beans and fought the blooming British at the town of New Orleans"'" and later "Pakenham said we could take 'em by surprise(i.e. the British) if we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye". That scenario seems highly unlikely. There was another version of this song going around in the 60s sung from a British point of view, so maybe the words of the two songs got mixed up.
Lonnie didn't write the lyrics, so don't blame him
jrgboy The original version by Jimmy Driftwood and recorded by Johnny Horton is correct. Lonnie changed the words - very definitely his fault. Singers do this kind of thing: Joan Baez altered the "Night they drove old Dixie Down", Donovan changed Buffy St Marie's "Universal Soldier". The changes are never improvements.
Note: Packenham was the BRITISH LEADER not American. For the Americans it was Jackson
"col. patton"? "col. jackson!" "bloomin'"? learnt it as "bloody" in the US in second grade. No idea until high school (and watching monty python) that that was a swear word! still not sure why...
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No "Patton"--Pakenham. He was the British commander and Lonnie was substituting it for "jackson" as a joke. Not really sure who would have gotten joke.
Skiffle version with the wrong General. He lists the Brit general, not Col. Jackson, Ol' Hickory!
It was hard to easily check these things in the 1950s of course without a trip to the library - a slight advantage for him! Lonnie was a major instigator of the guitar revolution in the UK. The guitar amplified solos sound pretty tame now but many of us were grabbed by that sound and stretched notes. I wonder WTF music (and the Beatles) here would have been like without that impetus. The only way you could see performers like the Everlys was to watch the blurry! Perry Como tape conversions (525 to 405 lines) every week on UK tv. :-)