Yamaha Tenere 700 - 1600 mile owner review - issues / pros + cons
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- I have had my 2021 Yamaha Tenere 700 for a few months now, and have put upwards of 1600 miles on it so far, so I feel I'm at the point where I know what the bike is about, I have become aware of some of its weaknesses and strengths etc.
So here is a little chat covering my overall thoughts about the bike, what issues I have had, what issues I predict having, what I've added to the bike or changed so far, and I try to give a honest appraisal of the T7 from someone that is mainly riding it for fun.
Regarding myself, I am a pretty average rider, without lots of experience (I only got my bike licence last year) but, I forked out the £ for a new Tenere 700, so I simply wanted to be as honest as possible. It is possible that my lack of experience might be a useful point of view for some potential T7 buyers that maybe in the same boat as me. (If I can ride this thing, then anyone can.)
Link to 'picking up my T7 vid- • Picking up my Yamaha T... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
if you want to jump straight to potential issues with the bike - 10:24
Or if you just want a overall pros and cons list - 21:00
Changes I've made/ bits I have added - 02:00
Great review… and nice to have spoken to you an hour ago, sorry to have missed out on the sale of T7
Great review, really enjoyed it thanks!
Nice wee review. Good work. Lovely bike. Thanks 👍
Great review - thanks! Look forward to future videos and curious what tires you'll go with.
leaning towards motoz rallZ at moment, maybe slightly sketchy on wet roads, but look good in the mud.
Thanks for the update. People complain about the fuel cap and display… my Ducati hypermotard has exactly the same setup, but NO fuel gauge… want to talk about paying for cheap. Haha. Love the T7. Ordered one in September and the dealer is saying March delivery.
great review,cheers :)
Very good report. Mine is on it's way May Now. A lot to replace on a new bike to bring it up to a reasonable level of use. Thanks
Not too bad. Just depends on usage.
If you are commuting on it. It’s prob fine stock.
But if you are going off road then handguards / crash bars etc are a must
I must agree with everything you have said, l love my T7 although I could do with lowering it a bit.
Hey man! Great review! Thank you for sharing!
I believe you are the only person that are using rear crash bars, at least I didn't find any other CZcamsr showing them!
I'm very interested on getting that rear crash bars, what to you think of them? Is it worth it?
Does it protect the exhaust when falling?
Does it help to protect the engine on a fall?
Thank you for your time, keep up the good work!
Just saw your comment.
I don’t think it protects exhaust much. But well worth having mainly as a handle. Also a strapping down point for rear bags.
I did think you could fabricate a little support bar that goes from heed crashbars to the exhaust hanger.
Should be simple enough and would greatly increase strength of hanger.
Great, honest review. Change your tyres to something more aggressive....set them at around 14 PSI for shit conditions (if you have rim locks). Understand that the more you fall off, the less you'll fall off. Eventually, you'll gain the experience you need to stay on, as it's easier to be smooth, than to pick the bastard up! Don't rely on what I say, as I don't own a T7..... I will soon, but not now. There's a chance that I may have some experience in riding big endurance bikes......but that's up to you to trust, and me to know. Oh...and check your spring rate against your weight. Great work.
Great review! I have the same year and color - but North American version (Canada). I wish ours came with those signal lights instead of the 1980's pumpkin lights. They must be trying to use up 40 years of inventory or something. Love your vids! Keep up the great work! Cheers.
Thanks. Yes our indicators do look better.
If I had the NA ones I think I would swap to LED aftermarket ones.
@@biscuitsalive Yoshimira has a replacement tail piece fender removal deal with totally flexible and pre wired kit. Good kit.
I had those same ones on my 1974 Yamaha TX 750, pitiful
Bonus to the pumpkins is that I now have a spare set for my TW.
Thanks, exhaustively said all that is good to know.
I've had bikes way back in the past which were extremely resistant to rust. The overall quality of standard metals these days is annoyingly low.
Great honest review!!. You don't mention anything about forks and rear shock being too soft. I guess your are light enough for the factory springs setup. Any thoughts?. Thank you!
I think I will leave that for someone who is doing jumps and stuff like that.
I’m enjoying a bit of speed over rough stuff.
But my riding is very tame compared to pros who would push the suspension properly.
I’m about 13stone. (82kg) so I’m prob a medium weight.
For me the stock suspension seems fine.
It’s way firmer than that Honda CRF 250 I had. Now that was soft.
You still feel the bumps so it’s not so soft that you are numb to what the road is doing.
But like I said. I’m a fairly new rider, so take my opinions with that in mind.
Although I will say when I had a bunch of fairly heavy gear loaded on the back. It did seem to sink down a fair bit. So perhaps my weight is just on the cusp of what it’s happy with. (Without lots of gear)
But you are right. I should have talked about the suspension a little bit.
For my money it’s soaks up the bumps. And does lean more towards comfort than firm and aggressive. But it doesn’t feel under sprung to me.
I owned one for 8 months and used it on the TET here in Norway. I’m on a lighter bike now, but I often think about the T7 and how good it was. The CP2 engine is a true gem!
What bike did you move to?
Good timing! First a DRZ, then added a 701. Now both are sold and I’m back on a T7 😁
@@JohannesDalen I'm on a crf250l but have a Tenere 700 on order. Not sure if I need the off road capability... I've been looking at Ducati scrambler desert sleds as well
I'm 168 cm 5'6 with 29.5" inseam
The T7 might feel a bit tall, but can be lowered. Have you test ridden the T7? Even if you don't take it a lot off road, it's still a great allrounder.
Thanks
Thanks - great review. Did you make any further adjustments to the suspension? I think previously you said the preload was on about 9 clicks . For me the lowered links and seat help, but I’m heavier so likely need the read spring swapped out. I think it’s geared for someone at 75 kg. Cheers.
No I’ve left preload in the middle. But dropped forks by 18mm.
To be honest I’m still not hitting lumps at high speed. So I’m not testing the suspension to it’s limits like a hard enduro/rally guy would be.
I hit nasty bumps, but normally doing about 15-20 mph.
Been a couple of occasions a lump was worse than I expected when doing road speeds (40-50mph) and I felt it. But never had suspension bottom out on me.
I think it could if I was loaded up on the back with camping gear though.
Are you going to load yours up?
@@biscuitsalive Thanks. I also got the longer Rally Raid lowering links (for my shorter legs), so will give them a try and then drop the from by about 15-18mm. Git a couple of good suspension shops nearby and will see what they recommend about setting sag etc and whether I need a different spring on the back. Usually just me with a tail bag, but I have installed the pannier racks (excellent grab handles and they protect the exhaust), but for longer trips around the UK I will have the aluminium panniers loaded up. That might push the weight too high for the standard spring. No pillion.
Very useful video, cheers! Curious about the gear you're wearing, what boots and jacket do you have?
Hi. Jacket is a cheap amazon job “gearx”
Boots are a bit pricey. “forma” adventure bike boots. Seem ok though. Prob not as protective as proper MX boots.
Nice one, thanks
Just a hint, Never touch your brake discs The oils from your fingers will lessen the friction. Isopropyl alcohol,every once in a while helps keeps the disc’s clean
is iso alco what people use as brake cleaner? i normally have a big container of it for my electronics/drones, so thats handy if i can use that for my discs
Great video. Thinking of getting the T7 as my first big bike. Not sure if I should get something lighter to start!
What’s your height?
@@biscuitsalive I am 6ft and about 73kg, so not the strongest guy around. It lying flat and being top heavy does worry me a bit. Those crash bars look like they help a lot though?
@@angelodonofrio2 sorry, missed your reply, I would say start lighter, but it isn't a hard bike to ride, in fact its very easy to ride on road. just in the slippy stuff the weight may be an issue for you as a new rider.
How was the Fantic in comparison? Was the lighter weight considerably better? Easier to hold up with emergency foot down? Thanks
Good review.Which GoPro did you use?
Hero8. And thanks.
Great review thanks! Shame the crash bars cover up the Tenere 700 logo as well, could have designed it a bit better. I've seen a set of crash bars in an Australian channel that look better, but apparently are a pig to fit!
Doesn’t bother me.
Many people put their own graphics on anyway.
But yes there are many crash bars to choose from. The outlander ones are popular.
The HEED ones are nice. 5 of us here are using them and they fit the design of the bike well.
I have about about 5k on mine and my only complaint that u hinted at is the weight. I’m 6ft 185 athletic and wow, depending how and what it drops in, it can be an absolute struggle to get back up! Definitely recommend the Black Widow slip on. It sounds amazing and is reasonably priced. I don’t get the Double take mirrors…they are ridiculously expensive and look ugly. I’ve dropped my bike many times and never had an issue with the stock mirrors.
Thanks. Yep the black widow pipe does look like a good option.
Does the pipe save a couple of kgs over stock?
I’m guessing it does.
@@biscuitsalive yeah I forget where I saw the weight comparison but a couple of kgs sounds about right.
Great review, if it is just for fun so get your self an enduro bike, 350 or 450
Nice vid. Thanx. Where did you buy that rear crashguard? Never seen it before. //M
If you look up “HEED tenere 700 crash bars” you should find it.
Here go-
heedshop.eu/en_US/p/Rear-crash-bars-for-Yamaha-TENERE-700/511
@@biscuitsalive wonder if that would fit with the high pipes say a Corse version. Great sounding but goes up on inside of mounts.
@@samhill3496 not sure. Haven’t looked into pipe replacements much yet. Figured I would stick to stock pipe for a while.
Don’t like being noisy as I often ride green lanes near homes/farms etc.
You need this bike to ride 200 miles for a 100m unpaved lane where you can ride a motorbike. tried to do with with an exc but my bones were shaking for 4 days after a day out.
Use the anti corrosion fluid. Coat the spokes etc….
It’s either this bike or the Africa twin for me.
Both great options.
That turbo sound🤣 is the fuel pump
Oh, could be. I really don’t know. But it is mainly heard when throttle closed and on engine braking. So I presumed it was air being sucked in.
@@biscuitsalive why would be sucked in with a closed throttle?
@@danstevens2204 engine is turning over (higher revs going downhill etc)
So air is still going in.
@@biscuitsalive revs higher with a closed throttle….no that’s not how it works.
How is the confort of the Tenere in city normal roads, in terms of the suspension stifness, passing thru bumpers or even potholes? I ask because I'm looking for a good looking motorcycle that is as confort as I can get for city conditions here in Brazil, where the roads are not great, and i'm 1,72 m high (5'8), so I can't also go buying that super tall ADVs for that neither. So far, I'm looking at the Tenere 700 (lowering kit applied), the Honda Transalp, triump scrambler 400 x, the new triumph scrambler 1200 x (not the xe super tall one), ducati scrambler icon. Some of those are not 21 inch wheels on the front and don't have the largest suspension travel, but until i ride them, im considering because they could be good confort. Main things I'm considering for 'confort' are large 21 wheels and large suspension travel. But I know that not all suspensions are made equal, and some are stiff as hell. So, any opinions? All input is appreciated . thanks
I thought it was very plush. Soaked up potholes well.
But bare in mind I’ve never owned a big comfort touring bike before. So I’m only comparing it to adv/dual sport/enduro bikes.
I but if you side by sides it with a more comfort orientated bike the ride may seem a bit harsh.
The seat isn’t very comfortable thou, you would probably want to upgrade the stock seat. (Several options available )
What handguards are these please?
Thanks
Acerbis x factory
how tall are you? I am 174 cm tall but on Africa Twin I can stand on my feet without any problems, will there be a problem on Tenere? Thanks
I go over all that in the vid. Shots of my reach stock and reach after lowering it.
I’m 5’8”
Turbo noise 🙄 you claim to have dropped it quite a bit and obviously haven’t damaged the exhaust mount. I’m still yet to see a written off T7 due to this yet it’s mentioned in every T7 vid.
I feel like the brakes both need braided steel lines. Maybe some different pads.
They definitely feel spongey.
I never had an issue with my front one.
Not epic. But certainly not bad. (Just back one I felt was weak and soft.)
@@biscuitsalive coming off a KTM back to Yamaha the Tenere front brake is definitely spongy. Obviously it’s a cost thing but all brake lines in motorbike should be steel braided. Less loss of energy.
@@blade1535 fair enough, no doubt compared to a more 'racey' or performance bike they probably feel pretty pedestrian. but nothing a slightly harder squeeze cant fix, i had a few emergency brake situations and the front felt like it could brake very hard when needed
@@blade1535 but yes alway felt like the rear brake was vague and weak.... so not ideal.
I just can’t look at another bike with an lcd screen in 2022. It makes no sense. I don’t wanna look down and feel like I’m back in the 80’s.
Ridden many 80’s bikes? 😂 I’ve got a 2005 R6 and my T7 display has far more features and shows everything needed.
How tall are you ?
5’8”
The Super Tenere is shaft drive. I’d rather have this.
That’s a much bigger heavier bike.
The majority of people would much prefer the T7 over the super tenere. (And reviews on super tenere are generally scored much lower than the T7... but personally I’ve never ridden one so don’t know. )
Mate just be glad you didn’t buy a KTM .. otherwise this video could be a lot longer.
a spray-can of lanolin for the chain & on the spokes
, if you do it from new they’ll never Corrode and the chain will last for 30K.
Do some weights in the gym or go for a Honda CRF450R. When you ride go with bike. Don't fight it.
Ha. Bought a little 300 Honda for now. Underpowered but easy to Chuck around.
Prob get a husky 701 this summer.
@@biscuitsalive Limitation is always the rider. In time you will get experience. Give yourself time. chech this guy out.
czcams.com/video/yPLJn3IygAg/video.html