⭐️Go Seigen ⭐️ Turns a Game Around! - Real Board Lecture
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- čas přidán 23. 10. 2018
- Go Seigen was one of the legendary masters of go, but not every game starts off amazing. Here's a game where the master comes back from behind!
●Game 1 ● www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview...
●Game 2 ● www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview...
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Bear in mind that these games were played AFTER the accident in 1961! He was hit by a motorcycle and suffered pretty severe nerve-damage and around the mid-60's he had more or less retired. Still, his power was awe-inspiring. Genious on par with Einstein or Bach.
What Einstein was for science and Bach was for music, Go Seigen was for Go.
I love these real board videos, and what I love maybe even more is how nicely centered the stones are always kept on the intersections ;)
Game 1 - 00:02:20
Game 2 - 00:53:55
OutTakes - 01:20:31
The camera's settings were reset and it autozoomed and auto white balanced. Sorry about that >
First! Goddamn it.
Thank you for editing. OMG... I appreciate what you do 1000% more after seeing the OutTakes.
@@JohnLewis-old why I read it like "twitch chat sucks" subtext :D
@@reebaanee8586 No idea, certainly not intended. :D
Great video and outtakes. Thank you :D
These stones are soo tasty lookin'. Great improvement, man!
Agreed!! :)
i wonderi n how many games i died like an idiot where i could have lived with such beautiful moves :-P
must be many since i am only 2 kyu^^
Hi! Thank you very much for your videos! I have a little suggestion, when you mention variations or professional games and you don't want to talk about it in the video. Can you put reference links on the description please? It will help a lot.. Thank you again!!!
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Can you link from where you have bought those stones? very beautiful ones imo
The guy who originally purchased them (a patron of mine who upgraded out of them and gave me a great deal on these ones) from kurokigoishi which is found here shop.kurokigoishi.co.jp/en/item/680 . But yes, very great addition to the realboard series! My patrons are so nice!
If I'm not mistaken, the current AI standpoint is that 4-4 points are very good and early 3-3 invasions are also very good. That's something like one of the "standard joseki" the engine suggests, which as a consequence is supposed to give an equal result. Opening on 3-3 points to avoid the invasion is not something I have seen in discussions of engine play.
It's more of a human way to avoid the engine style invasion
Alpha opened with 3-3 against Ke Jie in game 2 of their bout last year. That was before AGZero, though. It might have been set up that way by the AG-team to taunt Ke Jie for his playing 3-3 in the first game, but who knows.
@@Ksrwilhelm The man furthest ahead of his time in GO theory was Go Seigen. I maintain to this day, that if they had the ELO score back then, He'd have been between 3500-3600 in his prime (without AI or current training).
I say this because he was beating known pros who had their ELO ratings estimated in the 3200-3350 range like Sakata Eio and Fujisawa Shuko, over 70% of the time in the 40's and 50's.
He was winning over 2/3 of his games against 3200+ rated players while taking a 1 stone handicap in most of the games.
His old school handicap was taking white in almost every game , with no komi, against other 8-9P players. And he still won.
That puts him in league with Lee Sedol and Lee Changho later on for sure.
The man was literally 50 years ahead of his time. I can't tell you just how many of his moves that the current AI likes.
@@paysonfox88 Agreed. I consider Go Seigen one of the great geniuses of human history, on par with Einstein or Bach.
What did ASMR ever do to reebaanee?!
Lmao Dwyrin lost it at 1:26:20
Nice game with 3-3 opening. I really feel there is not good reason that particular point is getting so much hate from amateur players.
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I guess it's not real hate, it's more like player nowadays don't want to give up the freedom of choice... Yes, 3-3 are nice and solid points but it allows the opponent to move whereever he wants... 4-4 giving up choice of direction but getting influence, 5-4 or 6-4 for direction on both sides and even the low 6-3 approach... it makes me uncomfortable because I don't know where the game is heading to so I don't play it ^^
9 months ago, huh... this is definitely gonna be read...
@@Nifuruc I just read this