Excellent episode Chris that very much echoes my findings. I own a Tesla Model 3 Long Range with the Full Self Driving software. From my experience of 18 months of driving the Tesla to date, I reckon ‘Full Self Driving is going to take years to become 100% trustworthy. Maybe it doesn’t help that I’m a Driving Instructor, but I find the Autopilot absolutely scary on anything other than relatively straight dual carriageways and motorways.
Good video.....just to clear a few things up, UK/EU regulations restrict the use of autopilot. For example the steering wheel is restricted from making a 90 degree turn/rotation. That’s why it tells you to take control on sharpe bends but in the USA this is not a problem
The parked car situation in your video is also a limitation due to UK/EU regs as autopilot is restricted from overtaking a vehicle when it has to use the oncoming lane. It would have overtaken that car if it can remain in the same lane. Trust me I’ve tested this myself
Collected my m3 today. Not sure I would trust it to navigate the UK "complicated" A roads and will use it just for Duel carriageways and motorways. I agree on the stop start traffic: Having driven my wife's leaf on propilot on the M25 each morning pre-covid, it was the most relaxing commute!
Great video. I do hope someone in Tesla is watching....I have the Y model 2022 in Israel. I just moved to Tesla from Volvo S90 2019. I was disappointed to find a lot of issues with the Auto Steering. Mainly if I could sum it up it feels like the design was assuming much better conditions. On the one hand you need to stay attentive but on the other hand the steering wheel will not let you nudge the car left or right in the lane or switch lanes yourself after indicating. Very forceful interaction as well including some times in which the steering wheels trys to leave the lane based on false marking on the road. The lack of pressure sensors in the steering wheel is part of it I suspect. Also the default speed when you engage adaptive cruise control is either speed limit or current speed. I find that ok for the most part but at a crawl I would use 30km/h as a default for anything under 30. Just outside my neighborhood the car "thinks" the speed limit is 110 where it's 90. Which make the car try and speed too much. I did not find the exact right combination for that. Over all a bit of a disappointment.
That's a shame, it really isn't ready for UK roads just yet. I was considering getting one for my wife as she is a very nervous driver and I thought that if 80% of the driving is done for her and she would only have to do small tasks/inputs, it would ease her nerves. I think it would stress her out more at the moment due to the unpredictable nature of the autopilot. I will give it a couple more years until the technology is ready for European roads. Thanks, your video was super helpful.
Yes I would say if you're a nervous driver already, this would make it worse. Unless driving on a straight road (motorway) I wouldn't leave it do drive itself.
Picked up my Model 3 LR AWD last week so I am still getting to grips with the autopilot. I live in Harrogate and I would not trust autopilot anywhere near cyclists or people just yet. To be honest I prefer driving the car myself...... the acceleration, the peace and quiet and the one pedal driving make it such a pleasure to drive.
Great video as always. I love your videos as they r super informative and useful and to the point. Good to learn about what the basic autopilot could do. Never thought I'll use the autopilot on A roads or thru the town and roundabout (I thought only the FSD can handle roundabouts?), v useful to learn how it handles these country roads with/without a car in front. And now for the first time in my life I think I'd prefer to stick behind another car rather than overtaking them.
Use a ceramic glass coat on your windows and cameras you should then not get any issues and you'll barely use your wipers so saving energy ♻️. You can also use Rain X for a cheaper option just apply it to the front screen once a month and the sides every 3 to 6 months. Buy a soft clay bar from Built Hamber to clean the glass prior to any coatings.. Once you start using either option you'll never go back, wipers are so last year..
received my performance 2 weeks ago. the car would have gone down to the speed limit if travelling faster than it. my car does however increase its speed aswell if travelling into a higher speed limit zone. maybe a setting or new update?
UK roads are much more complex than US, you can see the automation struggle. I bet the car would have crashed if he let it go onto the slip road, the sat nav is programmed straight ahead so it probably thought the slip road is a straight ahead lane!
Thanks, Im trying to decide what spec to get on my order and this has really helped me make up my mind that the paid upgrade is not worth over £5k to me. Next decision for me is whether to go for the longer range or save some more ££ going for the base model. What made the decision for you?
Thanks Phil! I appreciate the sub too! I went for the LR for the extra power, audio and battery. I know that's pretty much everything, but one alone wouldn't have been enough for me, but all 3 were.
Hi bud, great video! I’ve not dared to try it on the road I use to get to work! Also a huge improvement I think you’d love is the wood wrap. There’s a guy in Leeds called aktints who did my full car. Window tints, dechrome, console wrap etc. Would make an awesome CZcams video that I think your subs would like!
Only had mine since Friday, but my experience is that it will not automatically adjust the TACC speed based on what it knows the limit to be. A bit of a silly oversight, but I'd wager it's done intentionally to widen the gap between base and FSD autopilots. Also, is there a simply way to leave autopilot and go back to TACC? When I press the stalk up once it cancels all autopilot modes which is annoying if you haven't quite yet gotten used to the strength of the regen braking!
Great videos! To summarise, it seems that all the features you enjoy using are available with the standard system?.. cruise, following the car in front, lane assist and stop/start. Or am I missing something?
I suspect Tesla are simply not interested in mastering marginal conditions outside of the USA. Phantom braking is an issue in Australia where line markings are less than ideal, if indeed they exist at all in some places we visit.
@@SpawnPoiint It does, when you drive around a bend and it fails, next time when you come the Autopilot system will get better and better at that bend. Yes it is learning when you are using autopilot.
This is very important video. For the UK you gave demonstrated that fully autonomous driving is still a long way off. Autopilot is too risky on A/B roads and I would reserve it for long boring journeys where road lines are clear and good visibility. Did you find it a bit jerky in stop start built up area driving? We’re you making minor corrections ?
In stop start traffic it’s fine, I find any road where there’s a parked car it just comes to a complete halt. As it’s not FSD, indicating won’t overtake either. I usually only use autopilot on long roads, as you say this was just for demonstration.
I have the fsd on my model 3, I inherited it with my car as I bought it used, I’ve been using it for the last two weeks and if I’d payed 6.5k for it new I’d have been absolutely gutted, what a load of rubbish, it’s basically active cruise control but nowhere near as good. Worst thing they did was take it away from radar. Don’t bother there decades away from cracking this one.
3:16 LOL "When you're using autopilot you're EVEN MORE focused on the road than you would be if you were driving it yourself" Well that sounds relaxing.
@@SpawnPoiint Thats good to hear, sorry wasn't having a dig at you (its a good video), was just laughing at the irony of autopilot making the driver feel that way.
@@SpawnPoiint The car might be yours, but the AI system that's behind the AutoPilot still belongs solely to Tesla. Imagine if you somehow make an accident and someone dies because of the autopilot, are you accoutable for that or would the autopilot be. They should only be allowed to release such a thing on the road if it was tested and certified to not cause these issues.
can you not have a sensor in the the arm rest in the centre so you can tap that instead so you can relax when self driving ? otherwise you might as well drive it all the time.
I do find it funny that you rely on a human to make autopilot work better... why not just drive the car yourself. Autopilot is like being a train driver monitoring a system working. Looks much more stressful than just doing it yourself. It looks like you are teaching a learner driver how to use the roads.
You’re obviously not familiar with AP. It’s learning all the time, so yes during this early phase (which states it’s in Beta), it needs assistance. But with every mile driven, all cars are contributing collectively towards a better AP. So I don’t mind.
I can't believe they're even legally allowed to put this in uk vehicles, our roads are a cramped mess, the tesla autopilot looks absolutely awful, fair enough you have to keep touching the steering wheel every now and again, but how many idiots are gonna kill someone on the road because they're relying on this flawed autopilot. nowhere near ready
This upload is nearly a year old, and the functionality has massively improved since then. I hardly used it at the start, but over last year used it more and more (see my 1,000 road trip for full use). I'm impressed and definitely see a future for it.
@@SpawnPoiint glad to hear it's improving. Something as critical as safety shouldn't be put in roads for the public to use when it's still in beta though. It should be improved internally, then released when it's safe. Real life isn't a video game, if a game crashes, just reload. If that thing crashes, you or someone else could be seriously hurt or killed. Glad it's improving. Please be safe
Love your videos. One of the few Tesla channels that isn’t just trying to get views.
I appreciate that!
Great video. Nice to know all the limitations and plus points of the autopilot, especially on UK roads 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you 🙏
Wow I would never trust that after watching this,I would always be on the edge of the seat, great video 👍
To be fair this was 3/4 years ago. A lot has changed since then. I’m onto the MY now and it’s incredible by comparison to what it was 3/4 years ago.
I’d only use this system on a fairly quiet motorway or in a traffic jam. I’d be on edge otherwise. Great demonstration.
Excellent episode Chris that very much echoes my findings. I own a Tesla Model 3 Long Range with the Full Self Driving software. From my experience of 18 months of driving the Tesla to date, I reckon ‘Full Self Driving is going to take years to become 100% trustworthy. Maybe it doesn’t help that I’m a Driving Instructor, but I find the Autopilot absolutely scary on anything other than relatively straight dual carriageways and motorways.
I'd guess we're 30 years away from fully self driving cars being sold without a steering wheel.
Good video. I like the position of the camera - gives the viewer a greater understanding of what it’s like to drive a Tesla.
Thanks dude
Good demo of autopilot, just shows that you need to monitor it at all times, you cannot switch off
Thank you for watching.
Excellent bit of info here for the uk drivers many thanks great video, Collect ours a week tomoz can't wait
Thank you! Good luck for next week too.
This Video is rapidly approaching being a year old soon, any significant updates since March?
Good video.....just to clear a few things up, UK/EU regulations restrict the use of autopilot. For example the steering wheel is restricted from making a 90 degree turn/rotation. That’s why it tells you to take control on sharpe bends but in the USA this is not a problem
The parked car situation in your video is also a limitation due to UK/EU regs as autopilot is restricted from overtaking a vehicle when it has to use the oncoming lane. It would have overtaken that car if it can remain in the same lane. Trust me I’ve tested this myself
Interesting review, well presented. Thanks for sharing.
Collected my m3 today. Not sure I would trust it to navigate the UK "complicated" A roads and will use it just for Duel carriageways and motorways. I agree on the stop start traffic: Having driven my wife's leaf on propilot on the M25 each morning pre-covid, it was the most relaxing commute!
Good video. The system really does need to read the speed signs.
Great video. I do hope someone in Tesla is watching....I have the Y model 2022 in Israel. I just moved to Tesla from Volvo S90 2019. I was disappointed to find a lot of issues with the Auto Steering. Mainly if I could sum it up it feels like the design was assuming much better conditions. On the one hand you need to stay attentive but on the other hand the steering wheel will not let you nudge the car left or right in the lane or switch lanes yourself after indicating. Very forceful interaction as well including some times in which the steering wheels trys to leave the lane based on false marking on the road. The lack of pressure sensors in the steering wheel is part of it I suspect. Also the default speed when you engage adaptive cruise control is either speed limit or current speed. I find that ok for the most part but at a crawl I would use 30km/h as a default for anything under 30. Just outside my neighborhood the car "thinks" the speed limit is 110 where it's 90. Which make the car try and speed too much. I did not find the exact right combination for that. Over all a bit of a disappointment.
That's a shame, it really isn't ready for UK roads just yet. I was considering getting one for my wife as she is a very nervous driver and I thought that if 80% of the driving is done for her and she would only have to do small tasks/inputs, it would ease her nerves. I think it would stress her out more at the moment due to the unpredictable nature of the autopilot. I will give it a couple more years until the technology is ready for European roads. Thanks, your video was super helpful.
Yes I would say if you're a nervous driver already, this would make it worse. Unless driving on a straight road (motorway) I wouldn't leave it do drive itself.
Picked up my Model 3 LR AWD last week so I am still getting to grips with the autopilot. I live in Harrogate and I would not trust autopilot anywhere near cyclists or people just yet. To be honest I prefer driving the car myself...... the acceleration, the peace and quiet and the one pedal driving make it such a pleasure to drive.
For sure, I Drive it 99% of the time myself. And I’d agree, Harrogate would be a real test for AP.
Great video as always. I love your videos as they r super informative and useful and to the point. Good to learn about what the basic autopilot could do.
Never thought I'll use the autopilot on A roads or thru the town and roundabout (I thought only the FSD can handle roundabouts?), v useful to learn how it handles these country roads with/without a car in front. And now for the first time in my life I think I'd prefer to stick behind another car rather than overtaking them.
Thank you for watching!
Would the car have pulled left to take the slip road if you have a route planned on the nav?
Good question!
Use a ceramic glass coat on your windows and cameras you should then not get any issues and you'll barely use your wipers so saving energy ♻️. You can also use Rain X for a cheaper option just apply it to the front screen once a month and the sides every 3 to 6 months. Buy a soft clay bar from Built Hamber to clean the glass prior to any coatings.. Once you start using either option you'll never go back, wipers are so last year..
4:50, it won't change to 40 but to change you will need to press where it says 40
received my performance 2 weeks ago. the car would have gone down to the speed limit if travelling faster than it. my car does however increase its speed aswell if travelling into a higher speed limit zone. maybe a setting or new update?
Yes it has improved since this was recorded 2 months ago.
Would it stop at amber/red lights & go at green lights? Let’s say you’re at the front?
Can you do a video on your favourite gadgets that you have? Sort of like those top 50 under £50 videos.
Great idea Karam!
SpawnPoiint Thanks! Recently just picked up a Tesla and I have to say it's amazing. Your videos really helped us: keep up the great work!
UK roads are much more complex than US, you can see the automation struggle. I bet the car would have crashed if he let it go onto the slip road, the sat nav is programmed straight ahead so it probably thought the slip road is a straight ahead lane!
Thanks, Im trying to decide what spec to get on my order and this has really helped me make up my mind that the paid upgrade is not worth over £5k to me. Next decision for me is whether to go for the longer range or save some more ££ going for the base model. What made the decision for you?
Thanks Phil! I appreciate the sub too! I went for the LR for the extra power, audio and battery. I know that's pretty much everything, but one alone wouldn't have been enough for me, but all 3 were.
Hi bud, great video! I’ve not dared to try it on the road I use to get to work! Also a huge improvement I think you’d love is the wood wrap. There’s a guy in Leeds called aktints who did my full car. Window tints, dechrome, console wrap etc. Would make an awesome CZcams video that I think your subs would like!
That sounds really good too! It’s something I’ll look into this year for sure.
Only had mine since Friday, but my experience is that it will not automatically adjust the TACC speed based on what it knows the limit to be. A bit of a silly oversight, but I'd wager it's done intentionally to widen the gap between base and FSD autopilots.
Also, is there a simply way to leave autopilot and go back to TACC? When I press the stalk up once it cancels all autopilot modes which is annoying if you haven't quite yet gotten used to the strength of the regen braking!
I find by using the steering wheel will disable AP but keep TACC on.
Great videos! To summarise, it seems that all the features you enjoy using are available with the standard system?.. cruise, following the car in front, lane assist and stop/start. Or am I missing something?
Yes exactly. I only have the free/standard version (Autopilot) not FSD.
@@SpawnPoiint ah! excellent... my mistake, I thought this was the £6K option :D
I suspect Tesla are simply not interested in mastering marginal conditions outside of the USA.
Phantom braking is an issue in Australia where line markings are less than ideal, if indeed they exist at all in some places we visit.
Yes that is a real pain too
Interesting video, I wonder as you drive more miles on autopilot it will learn and do better? Thanks for sharing this video!
Thanks mark. I’m not sure if it does.
@@SpawnPoiint It does, when you drive around a bend and it fails, next time when you come the Autopilot system will get better and better at that bend. Yes it is learning when you are using autopilot.
Another great review. Q. was this as standard on the Model 3?
Yes this was autopilot not full self drive.
@@SpawnPoiint Thank you for your speedy response.
This is very important video. For the UK you gave demonstrated that fully autonomous driving is still a long way off. Autopilot is too risky on A/B roads and I would reserve it for long boring journeys where road lines are clear and good visibility. Did you find it a bit jerky in stop start built up area driving? We’re you making minor corrections ?
In stop start traffic it’s fine, I find any road where there’s a parked car it just comes to a complete halt. As it’s not FSD, indicating won’t overtake either. I usually only use autopilot on long roads, as you say this was just for demonstration.
100% agree. I learned this very quickly. Plus, it's a fun car to drive, but motorways are just boring cruising so it's perfect for that.
I like this video
Hey mate, how many miles per hour charge do you get on average UK public chargers ?
Superchargers get around 500mi/h if your not sharing. Public ones probably get about 80-90 mi/h
I have the fsd on my model 3, I inherited it with my car as I bought it used, I’ve been using it for the last two weeks and if I’d payed 6.5k for it new I’d have been absolutely gutted, what a load of rubbish, it’s basically active cruise control but nowhere near as good. Worst thing they did was take it away from radar. Don’t bother there decades away from cracking this one.
New video please since alot has changed
3:16 LOL
"When you're using autopilot you're EVEN MORE focused on the road than you would be if you were driving it yourself"
Well that sounds relaxing.
This video is over a year old now. I use it a lot more, and the software improvements have made it very reliable.
@@SpawnPoiint Thats good to hear, sorry wasn't having a dig at you (its a good video), was just laughing at the irony of autopilot making the driver feel that way.
What happens to your speeding tickets? Do you send it to Tesla?
No, you still own the car (V5). Do you’d get the tickets. EDIT - Oh, I get what you mean 😂
@@SpawnPoiint The car might be yours, but the AI system that's behind the AutoPilot still belongs solely to Tesla. Imagine if you somehow make an accident and someone dies because of the autopilot, are you accoutable for that or would the autopilot be. They should only be allowed to release such a thing on the road if it was tested and certified to not cause these issues.
@@SpawnPoiint XD
Yeah Elon handles them lol
It actually seems quite dangerous...... not really usable in the UK unfortunately then.
Depends where you use it. This is demonstrating it in our A Roads. My other video (showing motorways) is more successful and where it should be used.
Do you have full self driving or the free standard version
I thought I’d mentioned it was the free version , if not, it’s the free version.
@@SpawnPoiint I think you did I was just a bit confused
can you not have a sensor in the the arm rest in the centre so you can tap that instead so you can relax when self driving ? otherwise you might as well drive it all the time.
It’s nothing to do with the car, it’s the law.
So really it’s no better then a new leaf with pro pilot seems about the same
This is miles ahead. A Leaf isn’t in the same league.
its hard to tell how good the ap is if you keep taking over
Auto pilot . " destroy white car in front of me . Ok master ?
Is this the car with “Full Self Driving Capability”?
Yes but you need your palms resting on steering wheel
No, it’s the free version, he mentioned it in another comment
Im sure my m3 adjusts the speed on A roads.
It does now, this was 2 years ago 😂
I do find it funny that you rely on a human to make autopilot work better... why not just drive the car yourself. Autopilot is like being a train driver monitoring a system working. Looks much more stressful than just doing it yourself.
It looks like you are teaching a learner driver how to use the roads.
You’re obviously not familiar with AP. It’s learning all the time, so yes during this early phase (which states it’s in Beta), it needs assistance. But with every mile driven, all cars are contributing collectively towards a better AP. So I don’t mind.
3:51 I guarantee that in 10-15 years time, when these cars are tired and worn, little movements like that will malfunction and put you into a tree.
every time I see an advert on youtube the video gets a thumb down
I can't believe they're even legally allowed to put this in uk vehicles, our roads are a cramped mess, the tesla autopilot looks absolutely awful, fair enough you have to keep touching the steering wheel every now and again, but how many idiots are gonna kill someone on the road because they're relying on this flawed autopilot. nowhere near ready
This upload is nearly a year old, and the functionality has massively improved since then. I hardly used it at the start, but over last year used it more and more (see my 1,000 road trip for full use). I'm impressed and definitely see a future for it.
@@SpawnPoiint glad to hear it's improving. Something as critical as safety shouldn't be put in roads for the public to use when it's still in beta though. It should be improved internally, then released when it's safe. Real life isn't a video game, if a game crashes, just reload. If that thing crashes, you or someone else could be seriously hurt or killed.
Glad it's improving. Please be safe
60 on a duel carriage!!!!
So basically its not great dont trust it or you could end up in a tree, pretty pointless thdn
2 years ago, sure. But it's far better now.
Can you use tesla autopilot in the uk?