F/A-18 Hornet VS F-14 Tomcat Dogfight | DCS World

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    0:00 Intro & Round 1
    4:11 Round 2
    6:11 Round 3
    9:10 Round 4
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    Hey guys.
    In this DCS World Simulator video I'm flying the FA18 Hornet against the mighty F14 Tomcat flown by Raven (Thanks so much for the help buddy!)
    The FA18 Hornet is such amazing aircraft at slow speeds, really give the F14 Tomcat a run for It's money
    Hope you guys enjoy!
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Komentáře • 78

  • @LongShotChannel
    @LongShotChannel  Před rokem +7

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    Hey guys In this DCS World Simulator video I'm flying the FA18 Hornet against the mighty F14 Tomcat flown by Raven (Thanks so much for the help buddy!)
    The FA18 Hornet is such amazing aircraft at slow speeds, really give the F14 Tomcat a run for It's money
    Hope you guys enjoy!

  • @2ZZGE100
    @2ZZGE100 Před rokem +54

    Tomcat pilot clearly was a very poor at dogfighting it. Clearly not fighting to Tomcat's strengths of rate fight and 2-circle (both in the vertical or on a horizontal plane). Getting into slow speed one-circle fights is an automatic win for the Hornet unless it is 'Okie' or 'Snort' who could make Tomcat do magic at slow speed, high alpha.

    • @stevensutton2252
      @stevensutton2252 Před rokem +7

      Sounds like a challenge better kick it a nickel em 😂

    • @bukhariali71
      @bukhariali71 Před rokem +6

      Agree. Raven thinking the Tomcat is actually a Flanker. And the turn reversal timing…… perfect setup for Longshot. You can’t give a pilot like LS open shots like that

    • @TheSpaseDestroyeR
      @TheSpaseDestroyeR Před rokem

      Pretty much

    • @2ZZGE100
      @2ZZGE100 Před rokem

      @@SPFLDAngler What I stated, was the fact that comes straight from the pilots who flew F-14s and F-18s F-18 is a great one-circle and slow speed fighter at high alpha and that is what happened in this video, but. F-14 runs circles around the Hornet in a two-circle fight both in a vertical scissors and horizontally. That comes from the EM diagrams. Also, all of the videos on GrowlingSidewinder channel where he beats Hornets, are through out-rating it.

    • @stevensutton2252
      @stevensutton2252 Před rokem

      @@SPFLDAngler that was the reason why I was picking on them don't tell nobody LOL

  • @kbklt1
    @kbklt1 Před rokem +13

    That first round I think you shot every square inch of air around the Tomcat! LOL

  • @avramnovorra
    @avramnovorra Před rokem +14

    The external shots made it easy to follow some of the more frenetic moments, like whenever Raven almost slammed his F-14 into your Hornet, i love those man!

  • @sledgehammerk35
    @sledgehammerk35 Před rokem +16

    A former Tomcat pilot told me when they flew against Hornets, if they were patient, the Hornet could never beat them. He said all they had to do was wait until it was out of energy and the fight was pretty much over because the Hornet could never recover that energy. It was apparently very easy to do flying the F-14D.

    • @tracytrawick322
      @tracytrawick322 Před rokem +3

      Agree, but maybe easier said than done?
      It's like the F-4 vs MIGs-17 & -21, if the battle ends up being determined by the vertical component, the Phantom, with proper training is almost assured to prevail.

    • @sledgehammerk35
      @sledgehammerk35 Před rokem +2

      @@tracytrawick322 definitely easier said than done. All about being disciplined and not getting baited into a slow speed one circle fight. Snort Snodgrass actually has a great story about going up against a Hornet. Can find it on Ward Carroll’s channel.

    • @ProGamer-gc3wv
      @ProGamer-gc3wv Před 9 měsíci

      In theory, you can move everything! It depends on the pilot as well but the ability of the aircraft also. F-14 is very powerful and for dogfight useful, but if you don't hear what the tomcat is trying to say to you i.e. you ignore the signals, you may just end in flat spin or simply turn and crash. The F-18 is more modernized, smaller and compared to the tomcat, slower but fast enough and how you can just put the hornet nose up with slow speed... Hornet is better, because you have to do all the job and set your systems as you need, its a deep learning machine. Tomcat is like an old car, you have your RIO and you say that you want to do, then you fly and always have to trim it. I love the big cat, but the hornet is in my opinion the best one in DCS. Just waiting for the new 3D Pilot model and carrier updates, huh man that will be good

    • @michaelrodgers994
      @michaelrodgers994 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah the F14 went 2.34 mach versus Hornet 1.8

  • @MarkBarokas
    @MarkBarokas Před rokem +6

    Thx for flying with a Swiss livery

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Před rokem +5

    Once a Hortnet gets you low and slow, you won't have anywhere to go.
    You really put the sting on Raven today. Good job and great video.

  • @jnmason6283
    @jnmason6283 Před rokem

    In the 2nd round, the Tomcat diving down on the Hornet reminded my of a great white shark coming from below to breach on a seal.
    Some spicy flying there!

  • @brianpercival1829
    @brianpercival1829 Před rokem +9

    Awesome video. Really shows a lot went into editing for best views.

  • @JasonBourne1227
    @JasonBourne1227 Před rokem +1

    One thing I notice is that with each video you do your PC performance is better and better. You seem more confident with each video. Nice work!

  • @enochlearns6132
    @enochlearns6132 Před rokem

    Great fights! Some people like baseball/basketball/football...I like a rate fight on the deck, or a ferocious one circle. Can't thank you all enough for puttin on the show. I've spent a lot of time enjoying you and Growling Sidewinder. Those were great guns! Way to stick with it. I don't have a sim pit setup yet, but that's my dream and one day I hope to play along. I LOVE a good dogfight, and that was outstanding...thanks.

  • @debbiestimac5175
    @debbiestimac5175 Před rokem +1

    RIO : How close are we going to be when we fire the gun? Aviator in the front : Yes.

  • @lilletrille8998
    @lilletrille8998 Před rokem +3

    Awesome video Mr. Longshot - I need to get back into the Hornet (been flying way too much F-16 as of late - the F-16 is my favourite airplane of all time...). Love to see how you handle the FA-18C in a dogfight! Looking forward to the next video! Stay safe Sir!

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 Před rokem +3

    If you look at the design of the F-14 and the F/A-18, and combine the two you would almost get a Su-27 variant. I would like to see a US fighter design with the same LEXs of the Super Hornet and the engine spacing of the F-14, maybe with a couple F135s for a powerplant.

  • @JBSmoke1
    @JBSmoke1 Před rokem +1

    Great video, Longshot!

  • @bartoszszymczak4463
    @bartoszszymczak4463 Před rokem +1

    Longshot in su35 flanker vs f18 hornet, dogfight with missles, I always love to see you in flankers, its like art in motion, i would love to see this, best regards buddy!

  • @3516diesel
    @3516diesel Před rokem +1

    Of course this is presuming that a Mach 2.34 Tomcat would even let a Mach 1.8 Hornet catch it.

  • @gfarrell80
    @gfarrell80 Před rokem +2

    Round 2 has to be one of the closest range gun kills I've seen.

  • @58Rev
    @58Rev Před rokem

    Now that was a great vid, looks like the Tomcat driver needs to be working on his bird's strengths, he def looked good in the hassle he won. Btw, did you and GS graduate from the same aerial gunnery class? Asking for a friend.

  • @DavidSteele
    @DavidSteele Před rokem

    Sheese. That first fight, no wait, that first pass was extremely close. Great scrap: bringing knives into a phone box.
    Round 2's kill was epic, however.

  • @markymrk7450
    @markymrk7450 Před rokem

    Once again, Excellent.

  • @ryanarnold4790
    @ryanarnold4790 Před rokem

    Great vid

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 Před rokem

    Round 3 was fantastic!

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 Před rokem

    Raven sure makes that thing look like a sports car.

  • @bojned
    @bojned Před rokem

    You and GS did not fight in a while, it would be interesting to see how you lads stack up now.

  • @adamwright9741
    @adamwright9741 Před rokem

    So, when does the annual worldwide video game competition start!??? Hey we really need this, unless people are worried about income because of losing a title or ranking this particular year haha

  • @saltzen961
    @saltzen961 Před rokem

    Well fought men !!!

  • @cz75fanatic
    @cz75fanatic Před rokem

    The F18 can split for deferential throttle. Apparently you can't let it go below 50% on the reduced engine.

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 Před rokem

    I thought you were going to run out of bullets in the first round!

  • @Matterian
    @Matterian Před rokem +2

    Nice flying LS. Great video. see you on the next one.

  • @19Clutch69
    @19Clutch69 Před rokem

    You need to watch Reload and askeladd fly the tomcat in the slow fight.. these guys dogfight everyday..

  • @Tonyfetucinni
    @Tonyfetucinni Před rokem +1

    *doesn't lead target*
    O.O "what happened?"

  • @TheSpaseDestroyeR
    @TheSpaseDestroyeR Před rokem

    For the F14 It's a challenge to aim for snapshots, Gf for both

  • @redrocker1055
    @redrocker1055 Před rokem +1

    The main reason the Hornet is flying and the Tomcat isn't is because some idiot thought it was a great idea to sell Tomcats to Iran. With modern avionics, and other updates the Tomcat would wipe the floor with any fourth gen fighter flying today.

    • @forzaelite1248
      @forzaelite1248 Před rokem +3

      The Hornet's flying because the Tomcat was expensive to maintain and operate and was fairly incapable of doing air to ground operations, hence why carriers fielded attacker aircraft. Retrofitting it would be more expensive than just buying Hornets in the long run, and with its radar cross section it'd be blown out of the sky somewhat easily from a distance, which is where all real world battles begin.
      The Hornet provided a single, more advanced, and cheaper airframe that could do both AA and AG, basically eliminating the need for A6s and A7s while also allowing for a lot of fleet commonality in terms of training and maintenance. In a dogfight skill and luck to an extent matter much more than inherent airframe differences, and that's assuming either pilot would let it get that close, which they likely wouldn't as they'd be risking life and aircraft on a single engagement. A Tomcat _might_ be able to beat a Hornet up close depending on who's flying what, but it loses everywhere else that's important to it's existence, namely economics, capability, and logistics.

    • @redrocker1055
      @redrocker1055 Před rokem +1

      @@forzaelite1248 The next gem Tomcat could've been streamlined. The OG Hornet was expensive to maintain as well.
      Heat is heat. Once you're locked it doesn't matter the size of the aircraft. Besides, you act like the Tomcat was a biplane.
      As for air to ground. The Tomcat was more than capable. The main issue was the AIM-54 Phoenix which was a giant waste of money and space. If that space would've been used for more practical ordnance the Tomcat platform would've been a fighter/attack jet with bomber-esc capabilities. But some idiot decided it was smart to sell it to Iran.

  • @FlyingWithSpurts
    @FlyingWithSpurts Před rokem

    Great video for showing how the Tomcat can give even a well flown Hornet a challenge. A number of times there where he was in front of you but was able to deny the shot by climbing over you. I myself made a habit out of learning to fly the Tomcat the way I fly the Hornet to great success.

  • @mikethompson2650
    @mikethompson2650 Před rokem

    Something I have wondered about for a while, does the game track cannon rounds shot? I understand that most Russian planes only have around a hundred plus rounds on board giving them only a couple of seconds or more of shots. The Vulcan has maybe 1000 rounds in the magazine but at 2000 rounds or so a second that goes quickly. Has anyone ever run out of cannon shots?

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 Před rokem

      I played a Hornet flight sim back in the mid 90's. You have enough for several bursts. Looking online it seems like the ammo load is only 400 rounds. At 4,000 to 6,000 rounds per minute, you're burning at least 66 rounds for a 1 second trigger squeeze. So you have enough ammo for about six bursts. That seems about right. A one second burst is actually pretty long for air-to-air, if your bursts are a half second or less, you might be able to get up to 10 or more trigger squeezes.

    • @Wolfe351
      @Wolfe351 Před rokem

      tomcat has about 600rds you can blitz thru it real fast if blaze away

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, you can see the ammo counter at the bottom of the HUD display. "GUN" with the round number right under it. Watch 3:03 when he squeezes off a shot, see the round count drop.

  • @ph2738
    @ph2738 Před rokem

    10:44 Round 4. the replay doesn’t show hits by tracers. Did LS get lucky? A gift by the sim?

  • @musaratjahan7954
    @musaratjahan7954 Před rokem

    How is he pulling that kind of AoA with the Tomcat??

  • @dioad1739
    @dioad1739 Před rokem

    When the Navy bought the F-14 as a interceptor I wonder if they had any idea what a awesome dog fighter it was, great fight LS.

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před rokem

      Thank you

    • @okisoba
      @okisoba Před rokem

      they bought it as a fighter capable of all the fighter roles, hence why it could maneuver, gun, bubble canopy, etc.

  • @cjparsons5754
    @cjparsons5754 Před rokem

    Round 1 missing by a long shot haha

  • @paulwoodruff9982
    @paulwoodruff9982 Před rokem

    Goose is NOT talking to him...

  • @midniteoyl8913
    @midniteoyl8913 Před rokem

    Round 1 - Not your best shooting there, Tex :)

  • @funkytownjedi
    @funkytownjedi Před rokem

    Hornet my favorite ❤😂

  • @uruguayny
    @uruguayny Před rokem +1

    So, if it wasn't a mid-air, what was it?

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  Před rokem +3

      He shot from a really close range

    • @Freeflyer91
      @Freeflyer91 Před rokem

      When Goose said he shot from about 1.5 metres away, he didn't mean the photo, he meant this dogfight.

    • @speed150mph
      @speed150mph Před rokem

      It was a midair collision… ravens bullets collided with the hornet midair 😂

  • @deepscuba7384
    @deepscuba7384 Před rokem +1

    Where you been?

  • @brianjames4013
    @brianjames4013 Před rokem

    Fox 4 in Round 2 lol

  • @shaneduc
    @shaneduc Před rokem

    My money is on the 14, I don't care for the 18 my self.
    I'm more a kitty person and not a bug person.
    I saw your Helmet que system help u a lot. Also you said he was great??? w0w I saw so meny mistakes...

  • @mikahonkanen7595
    @mikahonkanen7595 Před rokem

    A bit dissapointed, suisse F-18, not the FAF F/A-18 kick ass Hornet

    • @marcohofer5340
      @marcohofer5340 Před rokem +1

      Swiss guy here. We are a big plus even you are disapointed.

  • @BOXabaca
    @BOXabaca Před rokem

    not first

  • @AndyAttrition
    @AndyAttrition Před rokem

    dont know who the Tomcat pilot is but he neither knows the Tomcats strengths nor the Hornets weakness.