I have gotten to the point where i watch your tutorials to modules i dont own and dont plan on buying, just because they are more entertaining than anything youtube recommends to me.
Finally got around to learning give Gazelle. Have to say, after flying the Mi-24 Hind for the last year, flying gazelle is a breeze. It’s also a lot more fun zipping in and out of cover. As for a second crewman and autohover, I find it’s easier if I put it into a hover myself and Trim it. Then I switch to the copilot seat and operate the Hot-3 site with the smaller side stick on my throttle while continuing to control the cyclic. Don’t need to mess with collective once I’m trimmed and only need a little pedal to swing her around. It’s an easy helicopter to hover with so it’s not a challenge to use my thumb to move a little stick around.
If you turn on pedal trim in the settings, and trim the aircraft before putting it into auto hover, you can take your feet off the pedals and the hover is a lot more stable.
Nice video. Maybe try next time with nicely trimmed relatively slow forward flight. Torque changes from pedal input will be too much for the auto hover parameters, I guess. Thanks for showing the laser with the periscope. Didn't know, there is one. I thought, I had to guestimate range with the cross hairs relative to target size.
I have found the best way to slow to a hover is bomb along at 120kts, then suddenly pull full right cyclic, full right pedal and drop the collective, before restoring the collective a couple of seconds later. The Gazelle spins all over the place, but then stabilises into a slow and level enough flight to easily engage auto hover.
Yup!! For sure .. on my own I seem to only be able to engage the auto hover successfully 1 out of 10 times ... other times it is the situation is like deehack's experience in the video. Otherwise this is very fun helo to fly and fight with ... Polychop has made great strides to improving it, hopefully more to come.
I always loved the Gazelle and it’s much better now after the updates. I no longer try to hover. It’s much more stable to hit and run as I do with the Hind. Just work on one target at a time. Hopefully they bring back a stable auto hover for us single player players.
Entire module could be fixed with the Kiowa's AI system, stuff like this is the entire reason i dont use the gazelle. DCS is a niche game, most players are solo anyways, so multiseat aircraft need a good stable system to allow 1 person to run the aircraft effectively. The Kiowa system is so smooth and intuitive its crazy how good it is, its the best feeling chopper in game currently, full stop.
Polychop needs to add the AI from the Kiowa to the Gazelle, its such a great system for two seater choppers. Gazelle truly needs it to employ weapons like this, games 90% solo players anyways.
I was under the impression that the auto hover and slave modes were taken out for them to get some work done. I really appreciate these vids, brother. Thank you. I will have to check out the F-18 ones and viggen ones aswell because I got alot of my ED plate......sigh
Good vid DeepHack at trying to teach...People are giving up on the Gazelle trying to get it to hover...This hover is crazy and most do not have someone to fly and someone to gun...Why is Polychit making it so hard...this is still a sim, and not the French military...The Gazelle used to be my favorite...not now!
Been playing the Gazelle tonight and I was getting the very same happening with the auto hover. Pretty sure it must be a bug, it's almost as though one of the controls is double bound although I couldn't find any. Ended up just getting into a stable manual hover then jumping into the copilot seat.
? The Helikopter is not Slave to the Target not more ? Not in the Training Area , an not with the other Targeting Optic ? On Pilot Stick is the Slave button but it not work not more. 🤔
The reason you keep losing control is because you're not holding altitude in the hover. Auto hover doesn't not control power. Watch you altitude and make sure your not climbing or decending.
So in going for realism they have killed the single player aspect......i have had a lot of fun with this module in the past, doesn't sound very sensible as most people i hear play DCS in single player. Oh well . Very good video as ever though.
It was my first rotorbird, I loved how I mastered it all alone no multicrew...but I see now why people hated it. It was arcade mode. it does still need love but man once you set it up right and grab that feel again its even better than before man trust me
I agree. I flew it quite heavily before the FM change but lost interest in her because of the recent FM changes. Although the FM prior to the change was a bit qwerky, it was predictable. Now even when I've got her into a stable hover, she remain stable for a moment and then go nuts and squirrely without warning and without movement of any of the controls.Also, she tends to suddenly topple over without warning when transitioning to stationary like Dolly Parton in high heels suddenly tripping over her dress. I can understand a gradual increase in the flop but there's no gradual come-on. It turns on like a light switch.
I have gotten to the point where i watch your tutorials to modules i dont own and dont plan on buying, just because they are more entertaining than anything youtube recommends to me.
Thanks I appreciate that. So many channels I do the same thing with so I know what you mean.
Finally got around to learning give Gazelle. Have to say, after flying the Mi-24 Hind for the last year, flying gazelle is a breeze. It’s also a lot more fun zipping in and out of cover.
As for a second crewman and autohover, I find it’s easier if I put it into a hover myself and Trim it. Then I switch to the copilot seat and operate the Hot-3 site with the smaller side stick on my throttle while continuing to control the cyclic. Don’t need to mess with collective once I’m trimmed and only need a little pedal to swing her around. It’s an easy helicopter to hover with so it’s not a challenge to use my thumb to move a little stick around.
If you turn on pedal trim in the settings, and trim the aircraft before putting it into auto hover, you can take your feet off the pedals and the hover is a lot more stable.
I was doing the same recently & the autohover was more threat than the target. Very fussy. I found it easier to just hover myself
Nice video. Maybe try next time with nicely trimmed relatively slow forward flight. Torque changes from pedal input will be too much for the auto hover parameters, I guess. Thanks for showing the laser with the periscope. Didn't know, there is one. I thought, I had to guestimate range with the cross hairs relative to target size.
Great Vid as always!!
I have found the best way to slow to a hover is bomb along at 120kts, then suddenly pull full right cyclic, full right pedal and drop the collective, before restoring the collective a couple of seconds later. The Gazelle spins all over the place, but then stabilises into a slow and level enough flight to easily engage auto hover.
This heli needs an AI crew member for A-G ops. It’s (for me) the only off-putting thing about it.
Yup!! For sure .. on my own I seem to only be able to engage the auto hover successfully 1 out of 10 times ... other times it is the situation is like deehack's experience in the video. Otherwise this is very fun helo to fly and fight with ... Polychop has made great strides to improving it, hopefully more to come.
AI WSO or until that ist available Just the old Auto Hover mode.
The Update really killed that Module for me. I dont fly the gazelle anymore.
@@roadrebell2632 today's update literally made it unflyable for me. The rudder also imparts twitchy inputs to the top rotor.
This means death.
I always loved the Gazelle and it’s much better now after the updates. I no longer try to hover. It’s much more stable to hit and run as I do with the Hind. Just work on one target at a time. Hopefully they bring back a stable auto hover for us single player players.
Entire module could be fixed with the Kiowa's AI system, stuff like this is the entire reason i dont use the gazelle. DCS is a niche game, most players are solo anyways, so multiseat aircraft need a good stable system to allow 1 person to run the aircraft effectively. The Kiowa system is so smooth and intuitive its crazy how good it is, its the best feeling chopper in game currently, full stop.
Polychop needs to add the AI from the Kiowa to the Gazelle, its such a great system for two seater choppers. Gazelle truly needs it to employ weapons like this, games 90% solo players anyways.
I was under the impression that the auto hover and slave modes were taken out for them to get some work done. I really appreciate these vids, brother. Thank you. I will have to check out the F-18 ones and viggen ones aswell because I got alot of my ED plate......sigh
Hey Deephack, if you want to test your Gazelle skills, try the Combat Order - Falkland Campaign. Greetings and keep it rolling!
i just picked up the Gazelle and I’m having difficulty handling it. might turn flight model to game mode while learning the weapons.
Good vid DeepHack at trying to teach...People are giving up on the Gazelle trying to get it to hover...This hover is crazy and most do not have someone to fly and someone to gun...Why is Polychit making it so hard...this is still a sim, and not the French military...The Gazelle used to be my favorite...not now!
I've had it work perfectly many times. I think I was out of trim or something, likely user error.
@@deephack I have too…but, in a combat situation like the Enigma’s Server, it is so quirky to use, it breaks the hover for no reason…
Been playing the Gazelle tonight and I was getting the very same happening with the auto hover. Pretty sure it must be a bug, it's almost as though one of the controls is double bound although I couldn't find any. Ended up just getting into a stable manual hover then jumping into the copilot seat.
As is often the case multi-crew is so much easier and more fun. Always recommend filling the seats.
Amazing video! I just haate how the gazelle's rotors look so choppy, and i don't even play dcs [yet]
Yeah me too. Polychop know about it though and are working to refine this.
? The Helikopter is not Slave to the Target not more ? Not in the Training Area , an not with the other Targeting Optic ? On Pilot Stick is the Slave button but it not work not more. 🤔
There is a turn to target autopilot mode which I mention in the video. I don't use it though.
The reason you keep losing control is because you're not holding altitude in the hover. Auto hover doesn't not control power. Watch you altitude and make sure your not climbing or decending.
C'est fou, le stationaire "autohoover" est bien plus stable et facile a utiliser dans la réalité que dans DCS ...assez ironique
Its a whistling chicken leg
anteye?
Sand filter switch up. It will be easier to fly
Thanks for the tip. I'll try that.
No worries. We all love your videos. You are doing great work.@@deephack
Doing this in real at this altitude and at a distance of arround 850 m, you will be dead more fast, then you can aim :)
Pretty much what I say at 6:37 ;-)
Nooo you can't just use british gazelle while flying from Lakatameia AB. You should have used the Cypriot skin.
Haha, L model isn't used by the British though so it would be a faux British Gazelle :-)
So in going for realism they have killed the single player aspect......i have had a lot of fun with this module in the past, doesn't sound very sensible as most people i hear play DCS in single player. Oh well . Very good video as ever though.
Not a fan of the Gazelle anymore , the ‘Chop’ boys messed it up with the FM change .
It was my first rotorbird, I loved how I mastered it all alone no multicrew...but I see now why people hated it. It was arcade mode. it does still need love but man once you set it up right and grab that feel again its even better than before man trust me
I agree. I flew it quite heavily before the FM change but lost interest in her because of the recent FM changes. Although the FM prior to the change was a bit qwerky, it was predictable. Now even when I've got her into a stable hover, she remain stable for a moment and then go nuts and squirrely without warning and without movement of any of the controls.Also, she tends to suddenly topple over without warning when transitioning to stationary like Dolly Parton in high heels suddenly tripping over her dress. I can understand a gradual increase in the flop but there's no gradual come-on. It turns on like a light switch.
@@Kaneguy gazelle still feels arcadey to me with the bonus of being squirrely at times but still, better than before so I actually fly it now