Why Is Skywarp Always The Weird Seeker Out?

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  • @mecha53107
    @mecha53107 Pƙed 28 dny +78

    I don't know if Thew Addams is giddy or seething about this

    • @Protoraptor69
      @Protoraptor69 Pƙed 28 dny +6

      Damn it, someone beat me to it.

    • @Fyre19
      @Fyre19 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      explain i dont get it

    • @mecha53107
      @mecha53107 Pƙed 28 dny +15

      Thew Addams, a famous Transformers CZcamsr, absolutely adores Skywarp. It's his favorite of the Seekers and probably his favorite Transformers character ever.

    • @francescobattiante7351
      @francescobattiante7351 Pƙed 28 dny

      Ask him

    • @NightmareZerogbs
      @NightmareZerogbs Pƙed 28 dny

      @@mecha53107 he even has a dedicated Skywarp shrine!

  • @russellharrell2747
    @russellharrell2747 Pƙed 28 dny +24

    Only Starscream has Null Rays. Skywarp has machine guns and Thundercracker has Incendiary guns.
    But of course they still all look the same.

    • @Mecha82
      @Mecha82 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      This. I am shocked that suppose TF expert that is TJ doesn't know that.

    • @351cleavland
      @351cleavland Pƙed 23 dny

      Isn't it racist to say all deception seeker weapons all look alike? đŸ€Ș

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 Pƙed 28 dny +30

    His colors are deliciously Decepticon but they keep removing the jet black!

  • @RodimusPrimal
    @RodimusPrimal Pƙed 28 dny +11

    He is my favorite Seeker of the trio and I LOVED Frank Welker's voice for him. That being said, the Classics mold was sold in a Seeker trio set for Henkei in cartoon accurate colors. But to go back to the odd man out, the Earthrise mold had the SCREAMING face! Why? Ugh. Fortunately I got a spare Seeker head from a friend and swapped it out.

  • @thesardonicrenegade3065
    @thesardonicrenegade3065 Pƙed 28 dny +23

    As someone who's favorite character is Skywarp, my life is pain

  • @bumbleprime7713
    @bumbleprime7713 Pƙed 28 dny +16

    Im surprised you didnt even mention the insanity of Siege Skywarp, because hes INCREDIBLY RARE

  • @abe7885
    @abe7885 Pƙed 28 dny +26

    THATS NOT GEN Z THATS GEN ALPHA!

    • @RetroDark2008
      @RetroDark2008 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      All those terms were created by gen z, and were used a lot by them.

  • @lc5719
    @lc5719 Pƙed 28 dny +42

    That was gen alpha, not gen Z, I would never say any of those “words”

    • @Cretaceous158
      @Cretaceous158 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Late gen z uses those words, as people born in 2010 are unfortunately, gen z. I think 2010 kids shouldn’t be gen z.

    • @jacosisaba
      @jacosisaba Pƙed 27 dny

      This comment makes me feel insanely old.

    • @4.5th_impact
      @4.5th_impact Pƙed 27 dny +1

      Sigma skibidi edging rizzmaxxing

    • @blasterstopmotion
      @blasterstopmotion Pƙed 25 dny +2

      ​@@Cretaceous158Every generation thinks that they are better than the last and believe that the next is horrible. Tell me, did you ever follow any stupid trends as a kid? Gen alpha are just kids and late gen z are teenagers. Don't expect perfection from children and be suprised when they make mistakes.

    • @Cretaceous158
      @Cretaceous158 Pƙed 25 dny

      @@blasterstopmotion Gen z is a very wide range with many cultural differences, as gen z started in 1995. 2010 fells like a better place for a new generation to start than 2012. Also the people who use most of those words unironically are probably too young to use CZcams in the first place, as CZcams is a 13+ website.

  • @Williamcantrell99
    @Williamcantrell99 Pƙed 28 dny +19

    There’s always a part of me that thinks Hasbro believes Skywarp’s best quality compared to Starscream and Thundercracker is his design, so they change his figures up to keep it that way.

  • @mattr75
    @mattr75 Pƙed 28 dny +7

    I'm surprised the Cybertron Skywarp repaint of Thundercracker wasn't brought up

  • @bloodstreak2001
    @bloodstreak2001 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    Reading that shout out must of hurt

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 Pƙed 28 dny +11

    Oh god I had to pause the shout out I'm gonna take psychic damage.

  • @AimeeRose1997
    @AimeeRose1997 Pƙed 28 dny +6

    You forgot about his Bot Shots and Earthrise figures being given different facial expressions.

  • @wakeangel2001
    @wakeangel2001 Pƙed 28 dny +4

    Is it weird that out of the 3 main seekers Skywarp is the only one that got gender flipped? I mean, Acid Storm and Nova Storm were just background seekers with slight name recognition so you could easily change them without bothering too many fans but it's weird that one of the trinity got made into a girl. Did they want to add a "token female" to the original squad? Either way I want a female seeker mold for them and Slipstream! Windblade remolds don't really work because she isn't a seeker jet.

    • @TJOmega
      @TJOmega  Pƙed 28 dny +3

      So the writers for Cyberverse wanted to flip Thundercracker as well but were told no, not sure why he's more sacred than Skywarp.

    • @wakeangel2001
      @wakeangel2001 Pƙed 28 dny +3

      @@TJOmega maybe they didn't want it to look like Starscream was making himself a jet harem?

  • @OhNyoCringeII
    @OhNyoCringeII Pƙed 28 dny +3

    This comment is off topic but to say Legacy Iguanus shelfwarmed everywhere is VERY true to me. I don’t think I EVER saw a single other core class figure at Walmart that wasn’t this guy.
    Still, it’s very weird that Hasbro loves making Skywarp always off compared to his fellow Seekers.

  • @shadowmarauder6033
    @shadowmarauder6033 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    10:43 wait, so Skywarp’s the man behind the slaughter? 😆😜

  • @KRBrickBot
    @KRBrickBot Pƙed 28 dny +3

    14:26 Actually this legion Starscream *doesn’t* come with null rays, the stock photos had them but were removed last minute. Guess the weird thing about this Skywarp for me was the regional exclusivity and had to import him to complete the trio.

  • @rolandodr9834
    @rolandodr9834 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Bonus: Bot Shot Thundercracker is a redeco of Starscream. Skywarp is yelling and has extra detail on his chest.

  • @AvengingOttsel
    @AvengingOttsel Pƙed 27 dny +1

    They need to flesh out the characters of Skywarp and Thundercracker more in animation, I think they’re still viewed how they were in G1. I had the Armada Skywarp as a kid it was an awesome looking version I liked the fin on his head

  • @BotsNBricks-eo1ot
    @BotsNBricks-eo1ot Pƙed 28 dny +2

    I'm honestly more upset about how often they seem to consider Skywarp a "redshirt" and off him the first chance they get. I know most of the time he doesn't have much in the way of character but neither do most of the other seekers. Let one of coneheads or one of the "Blank"storms be the sacrifice for once.

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Pƙed 27 dny

    20:32 - 20:45 It's like Rumble once said:
    "Can't you do anything right, Skywarp?"

  • @Senrubo
    @Senrubo Pƙed 28 dny +1

    One of the big reasons for the disparity is still just the sheer fact that while Starscream and Thundercracker's figures color schemes were from the Diaclone, Skywarp is the original recolor of the seekers. That ends up making his color scheme inconsistent between versions.
    Really feels weird that the well known fact about Skywarp wasn't mentioned anywhere in a video about why Skywarp is inconsistent

  • @dylanphilpott8698
    @dylanphilpott8698 Pƙed 27 dny +1

    As a huge wfc game fan I want to add that he’s the odd one out in that game too, his tailfins are oriented differently

  • @bowserbreaker2515
    @bowserbreaker2515 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Skywarp has my favorite color scheme out of all the seekers, so it's really sad he never gets attention. And we all know how his Siege figure was incredibly hard to get.

  • @Fuzzy_Barbarian
    @Fuzzy_Barbarian Pƙed 28 dny

    I haven't ever subscribed to to your Patreon, but I really appreciate what you said at the start about people taking care of themselves first. A lot of content creators say it, but with you, it's obviously super genuine. Respect, dude.

  • @Transfixed
    @Transfixed Pƙed 28 dny +1

    What's always driven me bananas is his miscoloured shoulders. He's the only one of the trio with his accent colour on his shoulders, but Skywarp toys with purple shoulders are exceedingly rare.

  • @lynngreen7978
    @lynngreen7978 Pƙed 28 dny +3

    The oddity I've wondered. G1 Starscream is white, with red and blue. G! Thundercracker is blue, with white and red (and black). The Third seeker should have been Red, with blue and white (and maybe black). Almost Redwing.
    And as much as I'm a lover of G1, I've come to really like the more recent trend of the cannons (Starscream's Null Rays, Thundercracker's Flamethrowers) mounted on the forearms.

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Skywarp's color scheme was the only one created specifically for Transformers. I have to suspect they just wanted a color scheme that was as clearly "villainous" as possible.

  • @megagrey
    @megagrey Pƙed 28 dny

    Cyberverse Skywarp looks like something from a Galaga game when in alt-mode.

  • @serpentblader0957
    @serpentblader0957 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Markiplier: "Purple Guy!!!!!"

  • @sonerec725
    @sonerec725 Pƙed 28 dny

    i think the alternity one was all purple because the actual Orochi car iirc primarily was released in white and purple

  • @JunkionGamer
    @JunkionGamer Pƙed 24 dny

    17:12 that design reminds me of the Fansprodject Mindwipe from a long time ago

  • @syweb2
    @syweb2 Pƙed 28 dny

    You know what would be cool? A Seeker model kit-type thing where it has each part in multiple colors, so you can just build your own correct Skywarp or make your own custom cursed multicolor Seeker.

  • @TajirMusil
    @TajirMusil Pƙed 28 dny

    And then there's Earthspark Skywarp, who's toy is blue for whatever reason.

  • @chriscarpenter3370
    @chriscarpenter3370 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    as someone who has siege and earthrise skywarp, I find this video quite informal and amusing.

    • @KRBrickBot
      @KRBrickBot Pƙed 28 dny

      The Amazon-exclusive skyrocketed price is infuriating.

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Pƙed 24 dny

    I know there was already the actual Armada Thrust but I’d love to see the Armada Skywarp design in the G1 Thrust colors

  • @Grimbot81
    @Grimbot81 Pƙed 28 dny

    Earthrise Skywarp is my definitive Skywarp

  • @ardrethshadow9338
    @ardrethshadow9338 Pƙed 28 dny

    You didn't touch on how in the DOTM toyline, Starscream and Thundercracker came out... but then Skywarp was never released state-side. Just a limited Japanese release that was a sick-looking Starscream repaint. Thundercracker was the odd one out in the sense he was the only one with that chainsaw mechtech weapon where the others had the blade staff thingy.

  • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho

    It’s not just Skywarp, though. Thundercracker was made GI Joe-core for Machine Wars, was reduced to Starscream’s Powerlinx colors doppleganger in the Armada US dub, and was made the more “traditional” Seeker compared to Starscream in Cybertron. Ramjet had his name attached to a few Mini-Cons and was Unicron’s most gaudily colored herald ever, and Thrust had to pull triple duty as his Armada self, a Dirge homage, and a G1 Thrust homage in addition to having a bunch of Mini-Cons named after him.
    Dirge has been strangely consistent, though. Sure, he’s had oddball releases like his ROTF figure (which was part of an oddball trio of Bayverse Coneheads that also included non-Conehead Ramjet and Breakaway repaint Thrust), but no matter what, Dirge always seems to be Dirge.

  • @blueraccoon1088
    @blueraccoon1088 Pƙed 28 dny

    17:14 she looks like her shattered class version

  • @jacosisaba
    @jacosisaba Pƙed 27 dny

    The one that really bugged me was the DOTM Skywarp. They realased Thundercracker but Skywarp was only in Japan

  • @thehollowedeye
    @thehollowedeye Pƙed 28 dny

    I know it wasn’t meant to be super funny, but the sudden “Why is his chest purple” actually got me 😂

  • @mindwipe8788
    @mindwipe8788 Pƙed 28 dny

    I still surprised why we haven’t gotten a SS’86 Skywarp and Thundercracker yet, hopefully next yearđŸ€žđŸŒ

  • @benjaminwiseman6567
    @benjaminwiseman6567 Pƙed 27 dny

    Exclusives and distribution issues on Skywarp figures are my biggest issue. The Target exclusive Classics one and the Siege one were particularly annoying to find and still insanely expensive on the aftermarket.

  • @theamazingbrave
    @theamazingbrave Pƙed 27 dny

    Also Earthrise Skywarp is the only one of the three seekers with a screaming face for some reason.

  • @uberjeef
    @uberjeef Pƙed 24 dny

    Nice vid, but I almost skipped it cuz skywarp is my homie, mainly BECAUSE his toys are the seeker that's different. But well done, very well thought out.

  • @peacefultyrant113
    @peacefultyrant113 Pƙed 28 dny

    Earthrise Skywarp with the yelling face vs. Starscream and Thundercracker with neutral expressions. I guess he, Dirge, and Hauler saw something objectionable.

  • @isaacfields7923
    @isaacfields7923 Pƙed 28 dny

    Ironically in RID15, the warrior class Starscream was only ever redecoed into Skywarp and there was never a Thundercraker.

  • @rainydayman2k
    @rainydayman2k Pƙed 28 dny

    Well, at least Takara did have the MP-11SW Masterpiece Skywarp and the United Seeker Aces set. It wasn't Hasbro, though, and you'd have to have paid import prices at the time (as I did). Secondary prices these days aren't too terrible (especially for MP-11SW), at least compared to the prices being asked for the Siege and Earthrise Skywarp figures.

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Pƙed 28 dny

    13:55 - 14:19 This is one of the first Transformers figures I ever purchased back around 2012/2013.

  • @terrysyvertson9205
    @terrysyvertson9205 Pƙed 28 dny

    Skywarp is obviously nothing but an afterthought nowadays

  • @MikeD974
    @MikeD974 Pƙed 28 dny

    Purple is my favorite color so I have no.issues with skywarp who was my favorite seeker out of the orginal 3 getting more purple on him

  • @Nemesis_Prime666
    @Nemesis_Prime666 Pƙed 28 dny

    Black and purple the best color combo, nice video btw

  • @treebotreviews
    @treebotreviews Pƙed 28 dny

    16:47 purple and green popsicle as I said in my Universe Skywarp video. Absurd.

  • @haydenreviewscustomcombos

    The RID Skywarp deluxe/legends class figure that I have is actually pretty good. That is the only Skywarp figure that I even own. I need more!

  • @NightmareZerogbs
    @NightmareZerogbs Pƙed 28 dny

    I'm surprised you didn't mention ER Skywarp coming with the permascream or Siege Skywarp being charcoaly instead of black and having 3 Battle Masters at the expense of being unobtainable :(

  • @ToaKoran
    @ToaKoran Pƙed 28 dny

    With how much this happens to poor Skywarp I can't help but think that the Cybertron mold is going to get repainted as just about every single recolor you can think of, including even Thundercracker, and then they'll pull a curve ball and make Cybertron Skywarp the Cybertron Thundercracker mold.
    Even as someone that only has a passing interest in the seekers as I await that perfect, easily-accessible mold that fits the characters and doesn't suck (Siege was great but hard to get and incomplete, and Earthrise sucks and is hard to get, so both of those fail), even I can't help but acknowledge Skywarp gets the short end of the stick near-consistently.

  • @returnedtomonkey8886
    @returnedtomonkey8886 Pƙed 28 dny

    Beats, but he has the dostinction of being the only seeker of which I have 2 toys. The rotf voyager and legacy core class.

  • @grimwolf100
    @grimwolf100 Pƙed 28 dny

    your forgot ER having a screaming face and siege siege an amazon exclusive with target masters

  • @Saturnlock
    @Saturnlock Pƙed 28 dny

    Anyone else hear a phone in the background during the SS Skywarp segment?

  • @elementalt4nick
    @elementalt4nick Pƙed 28 dny

    He is one of my favorite cons

  • @k_DEDb07
    @k_DEDb07 Pƙed 28 dny

    is there a 3rd party figure i can google where they at least arguably did sky warp fair justice. really great video thanks

  • @GinjeetX
    @GinjeetX Pƙed 28 dny

    Skywarp is da goat!

  • @RialVestro
    @RialVestro Pƙed 28 dny

    Personally I don't mind Skywarp being the odd one out. Skywarp has always been my favorite of the seekers and him being unique is part of the reason I like him so much more than the other two. That and because I like his color scheme so whenever they don't make him black that I do have a problem with.
    G1 Skywarp had the teleporting power in the cartoon which instantly made him stand out from the other two who were just kind of the same.
    There's a repaint of Beast Machines Skywarp who's toy bio kind of alludes to an animation error from Transformers the Movie where Unicron introduces Cyclonus and his Armada but the second Cyclonus made from Skywarp disappears in the next shot and is never seen or mentioned again. Apparently he was teleported into the Universe toyline in 2003.
    BTW, I think I know why Masterpiece Skywarp never saw a second release. My local Wal Mart was LITTERED with those things all over the store. I actually bought mine for $10 when I believe it originally retailed at $50. I got a HUGE massive discount partly because I used a gift card but also because the figure had been marked down from it's original price three times and the store still had like 7 isles worth of over stock on the Masterpiece Skywarps that weren't selling. I still saw them at my Wal Mart shelf warming for over a year after their original release. I don't think anyone wanted them after how badly they shelf warmed the first time. Though I don't think that's the figure's fault, distribution itself was really weird cause I never saw Starscream or Thundercracker released in my area. It was only Skywarp and for some reason they thought it was good idea to filled multiple isles with ONE seeker.
    I think it's ok to refer to Cyberverse Skywarp as male when you're talking about the toy because the toy is male. And also making Skywarp female randomly in the cartoon... why? We already have a female Seeker, Slipstream. And I don't mind if they want to make some of the other Seekers female like Acid Storm and Nova Storm cause they aren't really established characters in fiction already. And Acid Storm the cartoon accidentally made non-binary because some times they appear male, other times they appear female. I would have liked it better if this was intentional and not a retcon to explain an animation error but I'll take it.
    Earthspark Skywarp is again Female and there's no Thundercracker... it's Nova Storm in a different color scheme than she had in Cyberverse.
    Armada, I have that figure, one of the first Skywarps I ever owned. And Thundercracker kind of weird because in the cartoon, that's just Starscream in his powerlinx colors.
    Cybertron Skywarp was repainted from both a Starscream mold and a Thundercracker mold but those are entirely different designs. Thundercracker was never done from the Cybertron Starscream and Starscream was never done in the Cybertron Thundercracker mold. But Skywarp has both versions. And the Thundercracker version forgot that he's suppose to be black.
    We did get a better version of FoC Skywarp in Thrilling 30, I have that figure.
    RID2015 Starscream was done as Skywarp and oddly a rare instance where it was never done as Thundercracker. It's also a rare instance where I don't like the design as the other seekers. That mold was an intentional homage to the King Starscream design from the 86 Movie with the wings forming his cape and the giant shoulder pads. I love that design as Starscream but whenever I see King Starscream parts on other seekers it just doesn't fit the character. They don't have that drive for leadership like Starscream does so seeing a King Skywarp just doesn't look right.
    There's also Cloud Hellwarp who's suppose to be a homage to BWII Hellscream except it's an entirely different shark mold and an entirely different character in a totally different color scheme. It seems weird to have 2 seekers as sharks decades apart from each other... and given the naming convention does that mean we're going to get a Hellcracker at some point?

  • @KRBrickBot
    @KRBrickBot Pƙed 28 dny

    Not a day too soon after Alex Polinsky reprised The Headmaster updating lingo for modern audeiences. Based.

  • @Isolder74
    @Isolder74 Pƙed 28 dny

    They do it to annoy Thew!

  • @omarimus2260
    @omarimus2260 Pƙed 28 dny

    Thundercracker has had it just as bad over the years. From the top of my head, there was no TFP Thundercracker, no RID 2015 Thundercracker, TFA Thundercracker didn't release and Transformers cybertron Thundercracker had a completely different design than the other seakers

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Pƙed 28 dny

    18:38/18:39 Does anyone hear a faint sound of a phone ringing?

  • @zoltanperei4789
    @zoltanperei4789 Pƙed 28 dny

    Please TJ make another video about the TF's foreign names!

  • @jamesowendesign
    @jamesowendesign Pƙed 26 dny

    PRESSED for content

  • @autobotzapof0002
    @autobotzapof0002 Pƙed 26 dny

    15:15 how did it take me this long to realize I got the GDO one in this guy’s packaging? Because I didn’t know what GDO was at the time. Still pretty cool to have it, but how I feel ripped off. -_-

  • @esaunothing6336
    @esaunothing6336 Pƙed 28 dny

    Suprised you mostly talked about the repaints and not the retail side of skywarp

  • @SuperiorNova
    @SuperiorNova Pƙed 23 dny

    Seeker Genders I think the Og 6 (Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet, Thrust, Dirge) should always be male but you can mess with the others cause in my AU I have Nova Storm and Acid Storm has females

  • @sonerec725
    @sonerec725 Pƙed 28 dny

    dont forget earthspark skywarp . . .

  • @tyjohnson7616
    @tyjohnson7616 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Gen Alpha TJ not Gen Z

  • @Toastman30K
    @Toastman30K Pƙed 27 dny

    I think that Shoutout killed me on the inside
    Is that what we Gen Zs sound like??

  • @CarnoReviews
    @CarnoReviews Pƙed 28 dny +1

    10:44 Sigh
 it’s been so long
 y’all can continue in the replies

    • @lilithofthevoid4922
      @lilithofthevoid4922 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Since last I've seen my son lost to this seeker, the 'warp behind the Slaughter

  • @nitrostormskystriker478
    @nitrostormskystriker478 Pƙed 28 dny

    I'm not going to lie, some of these are kind of stretches.

  • @geeboysgamesandmore49
    @geeboysgamesandmore49 Pƙed 27 dny

    TJ: Why do you fill my mouth gen Z words?
    Also TJ: Do you have any idea how cringe this is?

  • @MrsDizazter
    @MrsDizazter Pƙed 28 dny

    Day ruining intro, i hope the guy who pledged keeps doing it

  • @haydenreviewscustomcombos
    @haydenreviewscustomcombos Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Some of the words, acronyms, and abbreviations that Gen Z has come up with so far confuse me.

    • @GladDestronger
      @GladDestronger Pƙed 28 dny

      Same here.

    • @bumbleprime7713
      @bumbleprime7713 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      I'm a part of the generation and they confuse me too

    • @haydenreviewscustomcombos
      @haydenreviewscustomcombos Pƙed 28 dny

      @@bumbleprime7713 you’d think that the people part of Gen Z would be able to understand some of these words/acronyms/abbreviations, but I guess some understand them better than others. Maybe it’s just the overusage of only using the first letter of each word that confuses me.

    • @bumbleprime7713
      @bumbleprime7713 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      @@haydenreviewscustomcombos Just using the first letter I can understand, because it makes typing way faster

    • @haydenreviewscustomcombos
      @haydenreviewscustomcombos Pƙed 28 dny

      @@bumbleprime7713 yeah. Sometimes when you overdo it, it starts to not make sense anymore.

  • @flamedude6849
    @flamedude6849 Pƙed 28 dny

    Skywarp is only a girl in Cyberverse and Earthspark, this should stop because their already is a black and purple female seeker, but you didn't do anything wrong

  • @AndersGears
    @AndersGears Pƙed 28 dny

    0:23 Why do people blame me when I hate what 90% of my fellow people in gen Z do?

  • @harrisonwhaley7872
    @harrisonwhaley7872 Pƙed 28 dny +4

    Rizzful Ohio Sigma with a Gyatt, thank you for your service đŸ«Ą

  • @baratacom
    @baratacom Pƙed 28 dny +1

    The reason Skywarp ends in that situation is that he's the "third guy"
    For starters, he's famous enough that a figure of him will likely sell
    However, not only he shares an entire mold with two characters making him a harder sell on lines not aimed at collectors; but he's also primarily black colored, so marketing likely weights his presence against Nemesis/Scourge as "the black repaint" and ends up giving him alternative color schemes instead

    • @R0-83-RT
      @R0-83-RT Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Honestly I've always considered Thundercracker "the third guy". Sure IDW made Thundercracker cool, but before then I would say they were the least interesting member of the Trio. Skywarp's teleportation powers and loyalty at least made him number 2 for me.