Running Behind for the Old World | Marienburg Diary Four
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- My Marienburg inspired mercenary Empire army, L'Armee Trudot, is coming along at a reasonable rate; from a collecting perspective at least!
I've had a few set backs with my painting, and deadlines have kept me from assembling as many miniatures as I wanted to. But! I'm still having fun and still telling stories. And that, for me, is the most important part!
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Remember to scrape mold lines too dude, very obvious on the giant! They all look amazing and I’m sure it’ll take time to get the minis painted but it’ll be worth it in the end, it’s your hobby. It’s a marathon not a sprint! Enjoy it at your own pace. I haven’t painted any minis since like October. I’ll crack out the paints and brush when I’m ready too. Personally if you don’t like painting just use contrast paints dude, one coat and a little highlight is all you need to look good
As a life member of the Bad Painters' Club I really appreciate it when someone is willing to share their struggles with the craft publicly. Sometimes, when watching videos from great painters, it can feel like I'm the only person who finds it hard.
Often the hardest part is just starting and getting over the hump until figure kicks in
Pre-congrats to Jordan’s rapid ascent to reaching 15k subs, and undoubtedly far beyond. Tip of the tall pointed hat!
Dan, only 15K? Really needs and deserves much more!
I should fly over for a week and we can shoot a full on painting tutorial and get that whole army painted! :) army looking great man, love the back story!
I was a wretched painter for sooo long. It still feels like more of a chore to me then anything else, even when I’m moderately happy with a paint job. And, as I’ve recently pulled out my Marienburg minis along with my Tilean Dogs of War, going back and watching your Marienburg Diary videos has got me more excited to paint!
This is going to be the most trite, prosaic response ever, but… try to keep at it. You do what you feel is best for you, obviously, but working on Skeletons and Skaven (where you’re painting a decent amount, but aren’t too bothered with detail or even a fear that they “won’t come out right”) is a GREAT practice step! I’d also suggest (and, this helped me): try not to stress on ‘finishing’ a mini. I built up my skill by literally just picking one part (like and arm or weapon or something) of a mini, one colour, putting the one colour on that one part, and stopping for a few hours or even the day. It takes longer, ofc, but you get comfortable with all the skills you need as they develop.
Slowly but surely.
A mariemberg mercenary army is a fantastic idea and I’m sure will be a fun project! Looking forward to following your journey with it ❤
Trudot reminds me of Nicomo Cosca from Joe Abercrombie's books
Fine (and dangerous) company for Ponsard to be in!
A very enjoyable update. Thank you for the shout out about Mordheim, was an awesome day, thank you for taking part. I’ve had a few thoughts on other things, but I’ll message you about those.
Cheers Stu! Can’t wait to watch your battle report video for the Mordheim games!
A great vid Jordan, struggling to paint is something i suffer with like others. Can build till the cows come home, but never quite finish a unit. I'm also building a Marienburg army but for The Old World, however, my Marienburg land ship is a Sarissa Precision Cog ship with some modifications.
I love this project, your creativity and enthusiasm are fantastic!
A few thoughts on painting...
Don't give up! I think painting your own army will be super rewarding, even if they're not Golden Demon winners.
Don't be put off by "the ugly phase" when you're working on a mini. With many methods (slap chop might be an exception), minis look pretty terrible until those magical last few steps. This can be really discouraging (I can't count how many times I've hit this point and thought about giving up), but it's totally normal. Once you tidy up any big mistakes and add some shading and highlights, that ugly mini will start to look more like it does in your mind. Stay the course!
You're probably already aware, but if you want painting to be a focus of your hobby, I'd suggest looking at how Duncan or Peachy approaches painting. Those methods can build towards becoming an advanced painter one day. On the other hand, if you just want to get on with the gaming and collecting, check out The Honest Wargamer's slap chop video. Rob also considers himself a non-painter, but has a process that he enjoys, looks decent, and is pretty quick to learn and execute. Goobertown hobbies is another good resource for getting off the ground with painting.
Good luck, looking forward to your next update!
Watching this makes me miss Dogs of War. I wish I had been able to get more of the models when I was younger. At least I still have the codex for nostalgia purposes.
I bought Asarnil the dragon lord back in the day and so glad I did, it is now around $700 - $800 AUD on eBay so good investment by younger me
@@AM-uw3gp Younger me wasn't that financially savvy...come to think of it neither is current me.
I feel ya, i told my game group 2024 was the year of the painted model and the only painting done in the house so far has been by my 3 year old on a wooden model car
Unrelated, but this video on Marienburg brought back a flood of memories. In Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay this City was home to many campaigns. Great times.
Your being to hard on yourself... Jordan you can try and try again...(and if your happy with them then that's all that counts) However sometimes.... Just let someone else paint them. Your a writer, man, I couldn't write for toffees. I couldn't plumb my sink or wire my house. Brilliant Vid. love the show.
Thank you, I appreciate the support. I’ve definitely beaten myself up on occasion with regards to the painting, but you’re totally right. It probably comes across worse in the video as I’m verbalising the struggle, but I’m also conscious not to be too hard myself with the project as I want to enjoy it all. And I am!
Don't strip the unit! You have a good base to start from, I would honestly say painting the faces and hands will really bring them out. Then add a lighter silver for the weapons. I would ALWAYS recommend Aly Morrison's wash recipe as well: 40% Agrax Earthshade, 40% Seraphim Sepia and 20% Lahmian Medium... The final ingredient is a few drops of Drakenhof Nightshade. It is MAGIC.
This is great advice, thank you!
I Screenshot this post for later reference.
If it makes you feel better, when Mordheim came out, I chose Marienburgers as my faction… and you’ve got more paint on yours than I do right now. Lol. I’m even playing Mordheim at Adepticon soon and I’ve had to resort to borrowing half my warband from a friend. Fellow wargamers are a godsend for slow and/or unenthusiastic painters.
Those minis look they are in a fantastic Grim Dark style with only some minor tweaking needed to pop a bit.
Loving this series, Jordan, the concept of the army alone is incredible. Don't be discouraged by the painting, you've already done more here than I've done in my life! And keep on with the lore, I love it.
Yes to all of this! 👏👏👏
I belive in you and your painting Jordan, but also remember that the hobby should be fun and you are doing amazing stuff with your theme and backstories for your army so please be proud of that
I’d be tempted by the classic halfling cauldron catapult to fling hot stew at my adversaries.
The "Battlemasters" aesthetic fits the new Old World a little better imo. More chain, less ponce. A slightly more archaic look for centuries past. Chaos may be at bay, but I'm sure the Empire is keeping an eye on those Watchtowers. There would be the odd skirmish if not outright battle with lesser champions and their forces who venture too far south.
I love the thumbnail. 😄 Question asked and answered!
This is such an amazing project Jordan, every part: creative mini choices and their backstory lore, the scenario packs and associated art, it’s all wonderful - it would be great to develop a series of short animations down the track too!
Brilliant stuff.
P.S. good to hear you’ll hang out with mates and seek their advice / help whilst painting - don’t get angry with yourself, you’re doing all the right things and you’ll get there in the end 😉
In the battle pictures you could see more color on the miniatures. But i agree with the other people's suggestion that you should paint the skin of your miniatures in flesh colors.
Hi Jordan, Great video as always. Your units look amazing!
Easiest movement trays: Magnetize your minis. Get / make the rectangles from whatever material you want for the tray size you need. Add adhesive backed magnetic sheets cut to size. I've found this is the easiest way to use circle-based AoS minis and old WHFB minis without having to rebase your old army. I have a large Night Goblin army that I am not rebasing as that would take me forever.
As far as painting, I stick with a battle standard using contrast / speed paints over a slap-chop or white zenithal. It's easy, fast, and looks OK on the table. And for your characters, you can still add highlights, dry brushing, inks, etc. Speaking of, a really, really light dry brush of Zandri Dust adds a lot of definition at the distance you view them at while playing. I'm one of those players that would rather see a crappy paint job while playing than a sea of gray. And you're right about limiting your palette, it reduces the time spent on each unit. Having someone to paint with helps a lot!
Excited to see how the army's going!
The deck bases are great.
Jordan, I have a little advice that I think you might like. This is basically slapchop, but with an extra step at the end to give the army a little more care/love. Hear me out.
1. prime in black
2. white zeniful from above with airbrush or rattle can (gently if using rattle can). A cheap airbrush kit just for this step is surprisingly worth it and puts dry brushing to shame.
3. use washes / contrast / speed paint to pick out the details. try your best to 'stay in the lines'.
4. add a few highlights to make a few details pop a bit more. Don't forget Duncan's advice, and thin your paints a bit.
Sincerely hope this helps. I've helped a few friends with this process, and it's so gratifying to see their faces light up when the mini starts to come to life.
Thanks for the update, its great to aee how you are coming along with your project. You are making progress and having others help you is creating a community project is just as valuable as doing things yourself. Good luck with continuing your progress and know we are all supporting you on this journey to build your dream army.
I can't get over how thematic your army is! 😍 For me that's easily the most fun part of tabletop miniatures games; getting into the narrative elements. I've created a character out of an attachment for A Song of Ice & Fire, Jason Farman the "Kraken Killer". He's next up on my painting list, and I've gotten a tiny amount of him painted, but studying keeps getting in the way. x) You've inspired me to finally write the short story I've had in mind for him!
Thanks for the interesting update! Good luck with your continued adventures with L'Armee Trudot, both on the tabletop and the painting desk. 🙂
On the unit you have painted i would concentrate on painting skin for now as this will help models pop more. You can always go back and add more detail at a later date. Keep going :)
Great work on the force so far, can't wait to see where you go with it!
A lot to take in there! But while it’s in my brain, a possible answer to you movement tray problem could be Lego. Make a 90 degree corner out of it, then butt your two layers into the corner. Makes it much easier to line stuff up!
Oh that’s a good idea!
I have been trying to find some decking for my Dark Elf Corsair raiding force (just docking at a port) for weeks! Thank you for bringing there l these to my attention.
I feel your pain. I tend to find painting the hardest and least enjoyable part of the hobby.
I am slow and find it so grindy. Also I am not always happy with the results.
thanks!!
Eagerly following this project as I build my Kemperbad FreiStadt Imperial army . Kemperbad being the Marienburg of the central Empire and similarly ruled by Trade houses, Guilds and criminals. It would be great to fight a battle for coin against your army. Oh and Kemperbad Brandy is far superior to Marienburg Prosecco.
Hello there! I would agree that the best cause of action is to get yourself comfortable by painting some Scaven. Marienburg paintscheme is no joke even for a seasoned painter.
I performed a similar maneuver last year. I was looking into making an Bretonnian army for quite some time. After testing some techniques on bunch of Skaven, I tried out a Knight of the Realm. It went well, but despite using zenithal basecoat and speed paints, the process was understandably quite slow. The model is large and the heraldry needs to be well thought out for it to really work. And as the Old World release was approaching, I decided to pause the knights, and go for an army that would allow me to put a bunch of painted models on the table fast. That army was, of course, Tomb Kings (Funny how that goes, the decision had nothing to do with the fact Tomb Kings would be one of the early releases. There might be something about the Tomb Kings being the perfect yang to the Bretonnian Yin though ;) ).
Between a bunch of colour spray cans and speed paints, the skeletons are a breeze to paint. To the point that now the lengthiest part of the process for me is removing the mold lines :D Having an easy basic scheme also allows me to focus more on some of the details, like a bronze corrosion effect on shields, to really make the simple models pop-up.
As for the Bretonnians, I think I will go more men-at-arms heavy at first, and add the knights at a relaxed pace over time.
So basically yes, moral of the story, I would go with something easier to paint to start with. ;)
Love this!
It would be so funny if the giant had a massive Lute as a weapon instead of a club 😂. Holding the long Neck of the Lute.
I genuinely wish I had the skills to do that!
@@jordansorcery if you got contacts with people who could help you visualise it you never know 😊👍
Could always just slap chop the minis if you’re struggling to paint them up. They paint up really quick that way and any mistakes you make you could use a brighter version of the colour to cover and use that same colour as a highlight. Just a thought :)
This is a good shout. Tbh my regular ‘style’ is not too far from slap chop I don’t think, though with fewer colours. So I should probably give it a proper go at some point
Jordan would prob do better just interviewing old school Warhammer painters & paying each of them to paint a character/unit to demonstrate their style - he can show pics of the paint job over the interview.
I was going to suggest this, just do some crossover episodes with other mini painting CZcamsrs where they can help paint a unit or teach Jordan methods to do them himself
This is such a great project, I'd love to help you out.
"Half of Painting is Pain!" so the saying goes :D That's not meant as a discouragement, but traditionally more of an acknowledgement that it can be hard, but I think there's also an additional metaphor to be drawn from it. Many, if not most times, processes that look great at the end look terrible, or feel like a slog during. Most Non Metallic Metal processes look like hot garbage until nearly the final pass. You gotta "trust the process" and not get discouraged by the appearance of a thing half finished. Don't stop the walk halfway up the mountain! BTW I say all of this because I do it to myself ALL THE TIME, so I feel familiar enough with the emotional impact of reacting to something that was never supposed to be considered to comment on it. Your Ogryn's look great, and it's such a cool different take on them!
You tabled UNPAINTED? I hadn't realized the Jordan Sorcery channel was a personal quest for Redemption.
6th edition you can just do dogs of war army to get the variety of units with ogres, halfings etc
I think this is the way forward for when I’m playing classic Warhammer. Would love to see some Dogs of War for TOW at some point too!
@jordansorcery i think you will ve good woth a empire army with mercenaries for the non empire stuff
On your ogres did you create a focal point? If not the face create the gut plate as a focal point, you''ll get there fella keep up the good work.
Those mold lines on the Marauder Giant... :/
I realy find it funny that your charcter Trudot sound like Trudeau , the curent prime minister of Canada (Justin Trudeau and fater Pierre-Eliot Trudeau also a prime minister back in the 80's).
(Also I'm from Quebec the french speaking province of canada)
😎😎
Just hang in there, take your time and use simple techniques.. I used to never paint neither.. As I did not like the ugly stage..
Why not gather some friends and paint units together. All stick to a similar palette and then agree a unifying colour to paint a shield/helmet/sash etc. that way there is a unit identity while allowing each of you a little room to not paint your models identically. I believe medieval militias identified themselves this way.
Keep up the good work.
You aren't going to have a Unit of Sons of Mannan?
High tide? Is that an old Marienberg saying?
Well you have rules book which is more than most non-CZcamsrs who actually play the game have
A couple of points:
1) Stop apologising. It's your army. Take your time and aim to enjoy it.
2) For the units outside the Empire list, use the Mercenary rules, not the allies. There's an in-built negative to Mercenaries which should mean opponents will be much more laid back, also it's what they are.
3) The thing that made me really start enjoying painting was I stopped painting units and started painting individuals. There's so much character in your army that you can do them a couple of models at a time from different units and really bring them to life one at a time. The last thing you want to do having thought so deeply about each model is to batch paint them.
Keep it up. Any progress is good progress.
Seemingly Fenris games "hate facists" and "love miniatures. Good to know. Time machine wielding types from the 1930s-40s watch out!!
Was excited about the old world but because of the pricing I think it’s a cash grab so I’ve been looking at kings of war.
When is something a "Cash grab" and what would be the alternative of a business releasing a product?
@@olith not to over-inflate the price in the first place then kill it. They will do the same as the nostalgia dies down and they have rinsed the ip.
Is this just a Games Workshop channel now?
When it wasn't? You can have more than one hobby and make videos about them.
Not exclusively as I do have plans afoot for a handful of other games and game type things.
That said, I’ve really enjoyed leaning further into the history and hobby of GW so I am expecting to keep covering it as a main focus for the channel.
Out of genuine interest, which of my earlier non-GW videos have appealed the most?