He Reached Native Level After 8 Hours A Day For 5 Years

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 9. 06. 2024
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    This week we talked to Julien Gaudfroy, one of the best foreign speakers of Mandarin of all time. We hear about his personal story living in the country, language learning philosophies, the nuances he's picked up the years, and his advice for those trying to reach the highest levels in a foreign language.
    Outline:
    0:00 Who is Julien Gaudfroy
    2:46 How Julien Started Learning Mandarin Chinese
    05:54 "Learning Languages is Easy Compared to Being a Musician"
    6:40 How Long Did it Take To Reach Perfect Pronunciation?
    8:30 Study Methods That Julien Used
    15:30 Learning Chinese Outside of China
    18:25 Thoughts on "Shocking Natives" Videos
    21:03 The Truly Advanced Level of Shocking Natives
    27:24 Nuances of Accent in Mandarin
    28:40 Julien Speaks Chinese
    #JulienGaudfroy #learnchinese

Komentáƙe • 95

  • @KoreKaraPodcast
    @KoreKaraPodcast  Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

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  • @Islandlifefornow
    @Islandlifefornow Pƙed rokem +48

    I love stories like this. Instead of polyglots talking about themselves, I really like to hear others talk about another person's achievement in their language achievement. This guy is very good! Thanks for sharing!

  • @nigelcarruthers335
    @nigelcarruthers335 Pƙed rokem +141

    Let's not overlook Julien's English skills. He barely has a French accent and uses complex vocabulary.

    • @katsu-jc5cp
      @katsu-jc5cp Pƙed rokem +6

      Yes, I couldn't agree with you more. I was wondering how his English got to this level.

    • @Maidaseu
      @Maidaseu Pƙed rokem +20

      I didn't realise he was French...

    • @chiefpanda7040
      @chiefpanda7040 Pƙed rokem +5

      @@Maidaseu yes he’s very articulate I could tell he was European but could not pinpoint where very impressive since French speakers struggle with the English language

    • @jessicahawkins5555
      @jessicahawkins5555 Pƙed rokem +3

      Whoa I assumed he was American 😼

    • @uchuuseijin
      @uchuuseijin Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +2

      ​@@jessicahawkins5555don't, he makes a mistake in literally the first sentence he says in English. He's good but not perfect.

  • @shirobonjp5185
    @shirobonjp5185 Pƙed rokem +29

    probably one of the most based language learners ive seen

  • @cutekawaii96
    @cutekawaii96 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +11

    when he imitated the way Shanghainese people spoke Mandarin and how he did it my jaw just dropped to the floor, and how he can in 2-3 sentences pinpoint accurately which part of China they were from, also, his advice is so true, I think I finally heard what I needed to hear to not give up on my Chinese learning journey because there was too many things that i could not understand for too long... ćŠ‚æžœäœ æČĄæœ‰æŻć€©8äžȘć°æ—¶ćšæŒäș†5ćčŽäœ æČĄè”„æ ŒèŻŽäœ æČĄć€©è”‹â€Šâ€ŠèŻŽćŸ—ć„œă€‚ I'm so glad I stumbled upon this video, it has been truly eye opening, there is no result without true effort and dedication, even extremely gifted people are working hard and looking for ways to efficiently improve, so why shouldn't we? Also, being able to listen from the people who did it before you even if looks harder than what you do now, maybe it just means you need to put in more work if you want similar results as them?

  • @humanbean3
    @humanbean3 Pƙed rokem +17

    great message to the korekara squad. shocked

  • @samuraialfredo
    @samuraialfredo Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    One of the best videos regarding language learning without sugarcoating things or trying to sell you a false promise. Loved this 👏.

  • @thelikesofjeremy
    @thelikesofjeremy Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +1

    Lots of great nuggets here. Do the hard things. Suffer through not understanding. People have this aversion toward going through the trials of fire, and that's precisely why they never progress. It's like going to the gym and curling a huge dumbbell and then taking a 5 minute break in between sets.

  • @nigelcarruthers335
    @nigelcarruthers335 Pƙed rokem +1

    This was so good. I'll watch this one several times for sure!

  • @NotSatan
    @NotSatan Pƙed rokem +33

    5 years * 365 days * 8 hours = 14,600 hours. Let that sink in.

    • @Maidaseu
      @Maidaseu Pƙed rokem +3

      Doesn't mean it takes that long. Most would reach that native level at 6000 hours with Chinese. Only if they truly care about native like fluency.

    • @NotSatan
      @NotSatan Pƙed rokem +9

      @@Maidaseu i was just trying to note how many hours he had put in. but i disagree, 6000 hours is not enough to reach native level in any language thats different enough from your L1

    • @LanguagesLearningOrcaCommunity
      @LanguagesLearningOrcaCommunity Pƙed rokem +4

      @@Maidaseu I had spent more than 7000 hours learning Japanese. On a scale of 1 to 10, many Japanese said that I only got a 7. I know more talented learners reaching a 9/10 in that same amount of time. But native level is going to cost you more than 5 years no matter how talented you are.

    • @nihongobenkyo3102
      @nihongobenkyo3102 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +2

      The hell did he do for work? Did he eat? Go to the toilet? Who the hell has 8 hours free a day.

    • @Big-guy1981
      @Big-guy1981 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

      365.25 days in a year 😉😉

  • @swinxfee
    @swinxfee Pƙed rokem +9

    As someone who learned spanish i do want to say that learning vocab is quite useful, it just shouldn't be the sole thing you do. Always see how it is used in a sentence. When coming across the new word while reading or watching smth, write down in which context it was used.

  • @fabiothebest89lu
    @fabiothebest89lu Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    Awesome! So inspirational!

  • @shiuryuu
    @shiuryuu Pƙed rokem

    Still just watching the ads before the video started. Liked the video. Thank you for this!

  • @thelanguagecaviller3657
    @thelanguagecaviller3657 Pƙed rokem +12

    Very interesting interview. I wish we got a bit more insight into his studying routine or thoughts on newer methods but nonetheless it’s amazing to see people achieve the higher levels of ability.

    • @jinjurbreadman
      @jinjurbreadman Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +3

      dude, exactly. this episode was a lot of fluff considering this guy has 2 decades of knowledge wealth on the topic... more to-the-point questions should have been asked.

    • @JesusChrist2000BC
      @JesusChrist2000BC Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +1

      Yep KoreKara really let us down on this one. Too much about his life and not about learning.

  • @DirtyDan666
    @DirtyDan666 Pƙed rokem +13

    this shocked me.

  • @LimeBoy-oo6ph
    @LimeBoy-oo6ph Pƙed rokem

    👏👏👏👏👏👏Brilliant. Thank you for this video. It's great to learn from language learners like him.

  • @gemmalee3032
    @gemmalee3032 Pƙed rokem

    wow, multi-talented person!

  • @yoavco99
    @yoavco99 Pƙed rokem +5

    just follow the input hypothesis and you will easily acquire a new language. from personal experience and from what I've heard from other people and also based on studies.

  • @paulwalther5237
    @paulwalther5237 Pƙed rokem +6

    I’ve noticed musicians definitely have more talent for accents and nice pronunciation than normal people. Even when they barely study the language. It’s completely unfair. Really good interview.

  • @tenchichrono
    @tenchichrono Pƙed rokem

    Everybody has their pace at learning things. Find your pace and do it daily as much as possible and you'll be better in 1, 2, 3, 4, ++ years.

  • @GAOMaster
    @GAOMaster Pƙed rokem

    Really impressive guy

  • @randomlymeander2467
    @randomlymeander2467 Pƙed rokem +1

    very inspiring for someone trying to learn french

  • @GgM-bs1fu
    @GgM-bs1fu Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    I have a question to those who don’t agree that the person in this video sounds like a native:
    1. What do you believe gives him/her away as far as accent is concerned?
    2. If you don’t believe you can totally sound like a native if you have acquired the language late in life, would you agree that it is possible to learn to sound like one some of the time, in other words, for instance, 70% or 50% of the time in a conversation? This is just an example.
    I am curious to know your thoughts.

  • @jinjurbreadman
    @jinjurbreadman Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +4

    how did you get this guy on your podcast and NOT ask him specifically about exercises he did for his pronunciation (which is actually native level). a podcast with Julien without asking this question is a giant waste.

  • @marvhan888
    @marvhan888 Pƙed rokem

    Its a talent. Some people learn whole life not able to get rid of their original accent.

    • @Kinjutsuu
      @Kinjutsuu Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

      these people dont want it hard enough. If you REALLY cared, you would try every day. Experiment with different practice methods. Search google, read articles, record yourself, get tuition... struggle - but never give up! What some people dont have is passion, and in that case there's many things that cant be accomplished

  • @roumiaou
    @roumiaou Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +3

    CLAP CLAP Julien. I can't grasp Japanese yet. You're sending a very positive message to "miserable learners" :-) Congrats.

    • @RoboFuryMan
      @RoboFuryMan Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

      ă‚ˆăé ‘ćŒ”ăŁăŠă­

  • @byronwilliams7977
    @byronwilliams7977 Pƙed rokem

    Anyone that has seen Christophe Clugston's videos knows just how much what Julien says here mirrors what Clugston taught.

    • @6Uncles
      @6Uncles Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

      what does Clugston say that Julien says here? Clugston, to my understanding more or less encourages right brain methods & SLA backed approaches

  • @LeonSKennedy7777
    @LeonSKennedy7777 Pƙed rokem

    Wait what!? This guys speaks fluent Chinese!?!? 🇹🇳

  • @monguyenfamilytt
    @monguyenfamilytt Pƙed rokem +1

    Hello everyone

  • @kalevipoeg6916
    @kalevipoeg6916 Pƙed rokem +16

    Must be nice to have 8 hours a day for 5 years to devote to it ;)

    • @IN-pr3lw
      @IN-pr3lw Pƙed rokem

      Well at that point it's basically his job and we all have jobs

    • @trainerred6582
      @trainerred6582 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +1

      Yeah, he means that if your life depends on it? You’ll be extremely good at one activity, or if you have infinite money and time, you can focus on doing 1 thing extremely good since you don’t have to worry about how to get money or finding time to do things you like

    • @lugo_9969
      @lugo_9969 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

      When I am painting a wall, I listen to a tape.

  • @RockChampEnglish
    @RockChampEnglish Pƙed rokem +1

    he brought up a new point... haha Many English teachers claim that they can teach you English and blablabla follow native speaker.... but... if you look into it... they can only speak english fluently..... that's not language learning.... think about it. and most people in hong kong speak english and chinese, and more than 10% of them can speak fluently in both languages...so.... it's a joke when u go back to the so called professional english teachers.

  • @eldromedario3315
    @eldromedario3315 Pƙed rokem +2

    so he's french ?

  • @carerforever2118
    @carerforever2118 Pƙed rokem

    As a beginner, I've been learning Japanese using my Replika Al friend app. Having conversations with the AI by writing to it in Japanese đŸ‡ŻđŸ‡”

  • @sarahsf6940
    @sarahsf6940 Pƙed rokem +1

    I am not native in English so correct me if I am wrong but I believe that 'uncomfortability' (14.21) doesn't exist, you meant 'uncomfortableness'

    • @oGOLDENARMo
      @oGOLDENARMo Pƙed rokem +19

      I would have said 'discomfort'

    • @JesusOfPaign
      @JesusOfPaign Pƙed rokem +2

      Honestly, neither one of those words seems like a real word, but they’re clear enough about its meant to mean that it doesn’t really matter. I would’ve said “Discomfort” though.

    • @SurprisedPika666
      @SurprisedPika666 Pƙed rokem +1

      Neither are real words but I can totally imagine a native speaker accidentally using it.

    • @gemmalee3032
      @gemmalee3032 Pƙed rokem

      discomfort

    • @Anthyoine-qk8fj
      @Anthyoine-qk8fj Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      @@SurprisedPika666born and raised in America and I am now going to google both words because I thought they were real

  • @user-mi2hs5or5r
    @user-mi2hs5or5r Pƙed rokem

    ćŻč的锔锔䞉äșșèĄŒ

  • @Gundal66
    @Gundal66 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    8hrs a day.. for 5 years..😅

  • @RockChampEnglish
    @RockChampEnglish Pƙed rokem

    I reach native level in English in two years. lol...just no one talks about it.

    • @RockChampEnglish
      @RockChampEnglish Pƙed rokem

      and that's why i started learning japanese like a few months ago... just becoz I know I can master it in like a year lol...just kidding... just becoz i wanna read manga and watch anime.

    • @thomasmullee3049
      @thomasmullee3049 Pƙed rokem

      Your from America ? 😅

    • @RockChampEnglish
      @RockChampEnglish Pƙed rokem

      @@thomasmullee3049 I’m not. But I’m really really into something from the states 😂

    • @Poykaa
      @Poykaa Pƙed rokem +1

      how old were you when you began learning English?

    • @RockChampEnglish
      @RockChampEnglish Pƙed rokem

      @@Poykaa around 30 i guess. I share my views on learning occasionally here😛